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ddippset:
At least the lies beneath your skirt have been exposed.

You can talk about you Cristiina but De Lima is beneath Leo Messi.

De Lima Lima was great but,

The fact that he's an OG matters very little to me.

LMFAO.....I stopped taking you serious when you said Ronaldinho was more talented than De Lima. It already showed you level of ignorance.

ddippset:
So many half truths.

A lot of misconceptions about the Maradona and Napoli situation.

He did well but the exaggerations are out of this world.

Before Maradona, Napoli had some decent spells and were top 5 team in Italy for many seasons.

In 1984 they had an investment sort of like what Man City had and rebuilt the squad with Maradona and others like Ciro Ferrara, Salvature Bagni, Fernando De Napoli.

A lot of people like you even think that Napoli bought Maradona and went on to win the league the very next season.

NO THEY DID NOT!

They went trophyless for 2 seasons before they finally won serie A after rebuilding.


As for De Lima, how many goals did he score in the Serie A in a season?

Kpata Kpata 42 goals.


We are talking about players scoring 65 to 70 goals per season.

Abeg rest joor.

Defence or not,
Messi and Ronaldo are the greatest goal scorers in the history of the sport.

LMFAO..... Wikipedia analysist have gone to Google and still came out with garbage. Continue arguing your ronaldo and Messi that you know about. Leave the O.G's alone. Your age is showing.

Kimbeast:
You didn't even reference the " The butcher of Bilbao" incident.

LMFAO........Andoni Goicoechea, “The Butcher of Bilbao”, The guy who broke Maradonas ankle and damaged ligaments. I think he received a 16 match ban. Goicoechea even spent the following months boasting about the tackle and laughing at Maradona. Goicoechea then had the boots he was wearing when he assaulted Maradona put into a galss box and had them on display in his home. These people actually think Maradonna and de Lima won't destroy this era of moi moi defending and defenders.

GrammarNazi1:
I'm so sorry ancestor and sorcerer who knows my age already.

I believe by now you are close to the ones that came before us, ancestor.

LMFAO.......Ok Chief.

GrammarNazi1:
This does not make arguments more valid.

I just have to laugh at the young ones like you thinking by bringing up Maradonna not winning the Champions league diminish or even touches his legacy. It's a silly attempt of trying to be smart.

ddippset:
Stop imaging things.

Damn!
How da fuc am I arguing with people who watched only De Lima highlights?


Lemme summarise De Lima to you.

Blistering speed, Multiple leg overs and boom!
Goalie is retrieving the ball from his net.

That was De Lima.

Nothing more, Nothing less.

Alaye Jor Jor Jor. You don't know anything. Just confess you started watching football from the Ronaldinho era. Kimbeast come and see the fallacy this one is spewing.

GrammarNazi1:
Once again, Maradona failed in the Champions League. He was not good enough for the Champions League.

LMFAO...... Ok chief.

biomustry:
Messi and Ronaldo will definitely survive, it's your O.Gs that will struggle with all these technology and shite

Lol prime Maradonna and de Lima will piss all over this era.


The Serie A of the 80's and 90's was like watching teeth being pulled unless you were being treated to a proper, top class attacker or forward because the defenses were so good, tactical and cynical, that nothing but the top brass could get any change out of them.

Batistusta, Baggio, Del Piero and so forth had it really hard and it was a genuine acheivement for a lone player to outfox such a collection of mean, hard-nosed defenders who played every game like their life depended on it. Ask kimbeast or any person who watched Seria a then.

That's why when Ronaldo went there and ripped the piss out of the league it caused an absolute uproar. Before he got there all the defenders and football experts were saying he'd not be the same player in Italy as he was in Spain because he wouldn't be allowed to play in the same manner. They were right. He was even better in Italy than he was in Spain because he became a playmaker and link man as well as the goal-scorer, whilst in Spain, it was all about giving Ronaldo the ball and watching him run to goal and convert. Do you research on why Maradonna is called a demi god in Naples.



The likes of Van Basten and Gullit were booted and kicked so frequently in Serie A that it forced early retirement for Van basten who retired 29 and caused Gullit to have countless time out with one injury or another. It was a mean, hard-nosed league. Doing the business there carried more merit than any other league.


The late 80's and 90's Serie A may have had the biggest concentration of imported, world-class talent a league has ever seen. It was the place to be if you wanted to make your mark and sides in Spain and England had to do a lot more AND beat at least a couple of Italian teams to be taken seriously.
When United beat Juventus of the mid 90's, who were seen as the best side in the world, it catapulted us to a completely new level of world renown and global recognition as a footballing force. It announced us as big time player again.

If the likes of Shearer and Bergkamp had done what they did in Italy rather than England at that time they'd be held in much higher regard now than just good players.


Ronaldo going there and shaking that league to the core was like something out of a science fiction flick. Maradonna at Napoli also. Before and after Maradonna Napoli are shitts. If you think these O.G's won't rip apart this silly era I nothing to say to you.

ddippset:
Pele, De Lima and Ronaldo have got the same style. More finishing less finesse.

Maradona, Ronaldinho and Messi are one style.
More finesse less finishing.

Where Messi gets his GOAT acclaim is the outrageous level of finesse as well as finishing.

Lol De Lima and cristiano don't have the same style. De Lima was the complete package. 100% finishing mixed with 100% finessing. Basically a Ronaldinho(flair,skills,tricks) mixed with cristiano ronaldo(Finishing ability).

biomustry:
It's the other way around bro.

What other way round?

ddippset:
De Lima Like more talented than Messi?

This is sacrilege. This is blasphemy.

Only Ronaldinho and Maradona come close to Messi in terms of talent.

What fallacy am I reading with my eyes. Bros are you ok? Did you watch De Lima ronaldo at all? You can't even place Messi and Maradonna in the same sentence when it comes to talent and WTF.... Ronaldinho more talented than De Lima for feck sakes how old are you? De Lima and Maradonna are god tiers better stop it.

kendrick93:
Equally talented as Messi not more...
Like you said injuries stopped us from witnessing his magic for a longer period

Man the O.G's of world football are Maradonna,Pele and De lima ronaldo. Messi and ronaldo won't even survive in those era of football these guys dominated.

kendrick93:
Definitely and I'm a big fan of Ronaldo delima

I have to disagree with you here chief. De lima with all his injury problems was more talented and better than Messi. If de lima career wasn't bleeped up by injuries he would have been the only O.G in world football for ever.

GrammarNazi1:
That is your opinion. Your opinion, however, is only your opinion.

LMFAO....... Nazi give it up. Your agenda wont age with Grace lol.

GrammarNazi1:
Winning one World Cup trophy and failing so much in other important competitions will not make you the greatest too.

Is the World Cup the only important trophy in football even if it is the best?

Is Gotze of Germany better than C. Ronaldo of Portugal because he, Gotze, won the World Cup?

Lol Maradonna and failure in the same sentence....Alaye Jor Jor Jor.

Stop trying too hard to discredit Maradonna by talking about the fuckinggggg Champions league.

GrammarNazi1:
I gave you two teams SENFMD you talked about only one.

You are too narrow-minded.

You are the one trying to force a narrative which is border line fallacy. Not winning the champions league does not diminish Maradonna legacy in any way or form.

GrammarNazi1:
You are only using wrong analogies to shift the scope of the discussion.

That's basically what your saying. Who cares if Maradonna did not win the fecking Champions league when he dominated an higher competition called the world cup.

GrammarNazi1:
World Cup trophies won by Gotze of Germany: 1.
World Cup trophies won by Messi and Ronaldo: 0.

Spillo1, 2019: Gotze is greater than Messi and Ronaldo combined.

Lol this would made sense if I had said not winning the world cup diminish both as players which I did not so try harder..... LMFAO.

GrammarNazi1:
No. We are not talking about the World Cup. We are talking about football. The other trophies can't.

Once again, Maradona wanted to win the Uefa Champions League but he failed despite playing for some good teams.

LMFAO.......I won la liga but according to Nazi not winning the Copa del rey diminish my greatness. Ok man

GrammarNazi1:
So Maradona didn't win the prestigious Uefa Champions League because he never had a star-studded team?

But he played for Napoli in Italy and Barcelona in Spain.

Alaye Jor Jor .... Napoli a star studded team lol. You have lost all credibility. My friend the people of Naples call Maradonna a god for what he delivered.

kendrick93:
Pele, Maradona and Messi are the top three. Delima is a bit below.... Delima had everything but injuries stopped him from What he could have become

Lol Messi higher than de lima.

TLona1:
What's the fallacy there? Can you bee confident to say that Maradona and Ronaldo's achievements and statistics are as good as Messi's let alone better?

Debate your Messi and ronaldo in what ever way you like but please don't involve the OG's. No need to deride this thread.

GrammarNazi1:
There is.
Trophies won by Messi: At least 34. Trophies won by Maradona: Not up to 15.

Champions league won by Sergio Roberto: 2
Champions league won by Maradonna : 0
Sergio Roberto is greater than Maradonna
Grammar Nazi 2019.

TLona1:
You're only respecting those ones because they've retired a very long time ago.
Statistically, Messi shits on them.
Honorary, Messi still shits on them
Find something else to say abeg.

See fallacy. Whatever rocks your boat man

GrammarNazi1:
There is.

He never won the Uefa Champions League even though he tried to.

We are talking about the world cup here. He took his country to 2 finals back to back. The rest competition can take a back seat.

TLona1:
Messi took his country to 3 straight final. Praise that achievement first before looking into any other thing.

Not debating Messi with you. Just stop bringing the O.G's like Maradonna,De lima into an argument between lesser beings.

TLona1:


I saw everything then. The dribble, pace, feints, agility, finishing etc. But there are times when you have to make some kind of comments to sweeten your narrative.

Lol now I understand....LMFAO.

TLona1:
Yea I agree but it doesn't always work.

Ramos and Pique are world cup winners, Paolo Maldini isn't


Maradona never won the UCL. Maybe we use it against him also.

Maradonna took his country to 2 world cup final. Their is no argument you can use against him. Again stop bringing gods into arguments about Kings.

TLona1:

One playmaker vs two poachers.
Amazing

Alaye Jor Jor Jor ..... De Lima a poacher? Really how old are you?

TLona1:
It's not disrespect, it's a fact.

Anything in this world can lie except numbers.

So what is your aim of posting it? is it not to show Messi is superior to the Ronaldo's. Again don't drag a god into the discussion of Kings.

TLona1:
Friendly reminder

Come take your time. Don't ever disrespect De lima next time. You don't drag a god into a debate about Kings.

TLona1:
Friendly reminder

Don't ever disrespect De Lima next time. Don't ever drag a god in the debates of Kings. Alaye Jor