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MRTA7:
Its not terrible but its not good enough either. And it highlights why the club is where it is.

Agreed and the solution is we need to have a front three capable of scoring at least 70goals a season in all comp. Not like Liverpool I don't want a centre forward like firmino but like MNS and BBC of then.

Lana1:
These kind poverty stricken numbers. Everybody 0.2.

As a forward, of what use are you if you cant guarantee goals and assists for ur team on a regular 'match day' basis? Thunder faya all of them

If you consider the fact that Martial and to some extent rash have played little games as CF it's not that bad. Not world class by any standard but it's still a good ratio. I mean look at Son,he has 67 in 190games for Tottenham. For wingers I think martial ratio is not bad.

And adjusted for PL only:

goals assists games minutes played

Martial 36 19 116 7667

Rashford 29 16 115 7065

Mata 33 28 165 11372

Pogba 24 25 99 8199

Lingard 17 12 115 6759

Total 139 100


Non United players for comparison.

Aguero 170 51 243 18113

Jesus 28 11 70 3434

Sane 25 31 89 6078

Sterling 71 60 230 17215

Firmino 50 34 141 10796

Mane 68 27 163 12550

Salah 59 26 91 7060

Auba 35 9 53 4150

Lacazette 29 15 70 4860

Lukaku 113 42 252 19079

Rest of the league for anyone interested.


Kane 167 in 257, 0.65

Son 67 in 190, 0.35

Eriksen 67 in 281, 0.24

Dele 53 in 185, 0.29

Lamela 30 in 191, 0.16



Aubameyang 44 in 69, 0.64

Ozil 43 in 231, 0.19

Lacazette 38 in 91, 0.42

Xhaka, 11 in 137, 0.08

Bellerin, 7 in 181, 0.04



1. Salah - 74 in 110 , 0.67

2. Firmino - 68 in 198 , 0.34

3. Mane - 63 in 128 , 0.49

4. Origi - 29 in 103 , 0.28

5. Henderson - 25 in 330 , 0.08

Saw this comment and I totally agree with it.



Rash needs to start scoring... you cant blame "lack of experience" after 174 games... no matter what age ... for comparison Cantona only played 181 games for United total.

Our current top scorers. Impressesd with martial in a way.I have faith in Martial drastically improving his GPG ratio this year.
I think he can get 20+ if he stays fit and stays up front.

Kimbeast:
Drogba record in Finals. Man for the big occasions.

One of the most overrated and inconsistent players in PL history. Biggest cheat......Never understood how a player so strong could go down so easily.

Swissh:
For the Football is not about goals and assist People . Football rader since 2014 for Hazard, Neymar, Ronaldo, and Messi.

G90: Goals per 90 min
xG90: Expected G90
Sh90: Shots per 90
A90: Assists per 90
xA90: Expected A90
KP90: Passes that lead to shot per 90

xGChain90: Total xG of every possession the player is involved in per 90 minutes
xGBuildup90: Total xG of every possession the player is involved in without key passes and shots per 90 min

Forget joke Messi is not Human.

Unbelievable

larride:
Klopp over Pep?

Erik Ten Hang at 19 below OGS?

Very laughable list, any list that doesn’t have Pep at no 1 should be discarded ASAP.

Top spot definitely deserved for Klopp. Best manager in the world and levels above Pep.

Kimbeast:
Don't be silly. So it's basically

"Hi Lukaku, sorry you thought we were being racist..in future if you have people make monkey noises or throw bananas at you do not worry, it's all in good fun that's just our way of throwing you off your game a little"

Clearly Lukaku should apologize to Cagliari fans now, for misunderstanding them.

kokaneprodigy:
it’s easier to destroy than to build.

Of course Mourinho destroys players. Just look at how the united players have excelled since Mourinho left.

raumdeuter:
How long does it take to damage a player?

Bros its ok. Rooney,Herrera and Mata where all world class before Mourinho took over no wonder the previous coaches were winning trophies left and right.

Mourinho came to Chelsea for the 2013/2014 season and mata left to United in January 2014 so It took Mourinho less than six months to destroy Mata for life

raumdeuter:
You dont care about what he did at Chelsea because his name was not Mata then or because he was using 15 legs at Chelsea? or was it a different Mourinho he played under at Chelsea?

Mata before he met Mourinho was the league top assister

Before Mourinho came into Matas life 31 goals 55 assists in 2 seasons In the same time Silva 21goals 34 assists

And after Mourinho left his life show us his stats at United seasons by seasons. You can include Silva own as well let's know who was the top player before Pep and Mourinho came to Manchester.

raumdeuter:
When did Mata first play under Mourinho? which season?

i will help you to diagnoze your foolishness

You should diagnosed how stupid you are first of all and Oga answer a simple question. I don't care what he did at Chelsea.


Show us mata stats seaons by seasons for United before Mourinho destroyed his career.

raumdeuter:
Who was Matas coach in 2013/14?

Rooney was 30 when Mourinho joined, Currently, Aguero is 31

Was aguero 30 when pep joined city? Is Rooney career trajectory the same as Aguero? Is Muller not finished at 29? Use your head stop asking me silly question what season did we buy mata?

Show us mata stats seaons by seasons for United before Mourinho destroyed his career.

raumdeuter:
Was Kdb and Salah not also finished under Mourinho?

I didnt know I was talking with an ignorant fellow

Abeg tell us
Who was Matas coach in 2013/14?

Comparing young players to Rooney at 30. Your stupidity is legendary. Show us mata stats in united from that season to the season Mourinho the career destroyer came to United.

raumdeuter:
Speak with facts Rooney was 30 when Mourinho joined, younger than the current Aguero
Before Mourinho came into the life of Mata he was better than David Silva FACT

Rooney at 30 was finished,not even playing regularly and playing in midfield. Don't be unfortunate saying rubbish.
Please show us mata stats from 2013/2014seasons to before Mourinho destroyed his career.

raumdeuter:
LvG left DDG the best keeper in the league
Mata one time highest assist giver in the league
Rooney one of the best strikers in the league history at age 30. Aguero is currently 31yrs
Martial and Rashford who were indivudually at least equal to Sterling

Give Silva to Mourinho and he would be worse than Mata now
Give Sterling to Mourinho and he would have taugt him how to track the winger
Give Aguero to Mourinho and he would be dropped for not being tall like his typical strikers Drogba Lukaku, Milito etc
Give KdB to Mourinho oh never mind, we already saw how that went

Just see the rubbish. You don't know anything.

raumdeuter:
You have no point please.

Only KdB had no equal in the team Mourinho got, but he paid a world record for Pogba a KdB equal

Rooney is equal in talent to Aguero
Silva is equal to Mata
Fernandinho is equal to Herrera
Kompany was a soap when Pep got him and he is now gone

You are saying rubbish. Rooney was finished when Mourinho took over. Silva and fernandinho are miles ahead of Herrera and mata. You are the one that have no point at all.

raumdeuter:
For Yaya there was Schweinsteiger
For Aguero there was Rooney
For Silva there was Mata
For Fernandinho there was Herrera

What are the advantages Pep had? Pep spent, Mourinho Spent.

Fernandinho, KDB, Silva, Sterling and Aguero were all present when he got the team and are all now fundamentals in his unstoppable team.
Can you see that with the squad LVG left ? The squad that its 2 best players were 2 inconsistent youngsters, has no striker, has no midfielders but instead shoehorning Rooney in the midfield and plays aimless possession in our own third for the sake of preventing the opposition from attacking our fragile defense ? You really think both are comparable ? Don't make me laugh.

raumdeuter:
Are you serious?

Oga aguero, Silva, fernandinho, kdb and kompany were better than any player Mourinho. Only a biased mind would even debate that

raumdeuter:
Rooney had the talent of Aguero Mata had the talent of Silva Herrera had the talent of Fernandinho No one in City was on the level of DDG

You are not serious.

raumdeuter:
Who told you Mourinho did not have the liberty to do as he liked? It was when the type of result and football the team wanted was not coming that the management changed it for him

It was solely Mourinhos decision not to overhaul the team. You cannot say you want to overhaul the team yet be giving them extensions.
While Pep cut out Sagna Clichy, Yaya, Zabaleta, etc, Mourinho and Man Utd were negotiating extensions for Smalling Young, Darmian Rojo etc and giving Alexis a fat contract. OGS who is a rookie just sent 4 unproductive players out. Smalling Darmian, Sanchez and sky did not fall. You cannot be piling up foolish players and still complain about not being backed

As at end of last season Man utd had Smalling Jones, Lindelof Rojo and Bailly for central defence alone Add Darmian, Young Dalot to it. How many of these are actually useful for a serious team

Jose didn't have a single player in his squad with the talent of Aguero, De Bruyne, Silva or even Fernandinho. Don't spread lies. Jose met a squad with only one genuine quality player, De Gea.

raumdeuter:
Yet some fans are trying to compare this to Pep

There was deadwood in City that needed clearing out. Pep recognized it and cut them off he wasn't offering them extensions. Silva as brilliant as he is, has been told this is his last season

At Man Utd did the manager recognize these players as deadwood?
Rojo negotiated an extension in April 2018
Valencia negotiated a contract extension in April 2017
Darmian negotiated an extension early last season
Phil Jones same thing negotiated an extension early last season
Smalling negotiated an extension early last season
Ashley Young negotiated an extension early last season
You cannot call them deadwood and you are still extending their contracts or signing old players

Jose for some reasons trusted older players than younger ones. He was given backing but he trusted Young over Shaw, He bought Matic and Alexis who were very close to 30 Zlatan who was mid 30 and chased a 29yr old Perisic. 2yrs later you are seeking replacements for Zlatan Matic and Alexis

Woodward should have allowed Mourinho to sign Alderwereld and Boateng probably to 5yrs contract each with an automatic 3yrs renewal
With Mourinho, Kompany and David Silva will be negotiating to sign a new 5yr contract

At this point Lindelof and Pogba who are young in age are the only usable players acquired by a manager who spent about 400M on transfers

The damage Mourinho did to Man Utd will take 3 seasons to clear out..

Even though OGS is not top notch tactically, the clearing of Sanchez Darmian and Smalling out of the team already gives him 3/10. If he can add Jones, Young, Rojo, Bailly to the clearance he will get to 5/10 regardless of position on the table

You cannot be asking for new signings when you have a lot of dross on the team collecting salary and consuming oxygen

Go away with your biased write up. Any manager who starts with having Aguero, KdB, David Silva, Fernandinho and Kompany already in team has a great spine, talent and experience already at disposal. Not to forget Yaya then. On top of that Pep spent more. Pep also had advantage, since Txiki and Soriano were there and the plans to bring Pep to City was in place continuously, it would have had impact on how City shaped team building, behind the scenes.
For Mourinho, though he too had some decent talent, the rebuilding job was far bigger with United switching from directionless lunatic Moyes to stubborn LvG to him. United were in far worse shape when Mourinho took over than City were for Pep.

Swissh:
Neymar never wanted to leave Psg. Barca and Madrid were fighting to sign him but he rejected both. Now Psg has the 2nd deadliest strike force in Europe.

Neymar behind icardi - mbappe

This should be illegal.

Kimbeast:
Definitely. Zidane is simply overrated.

Never forget when the Laudrups brother destroyed us at France 98.

gensteejay:
I don't have time to waste on dolts. Big bang has nothing to do with belief, but knowledge — evidence-based knowledge.

Don't quote me again to spew your tripe.

You need deliverance from stupidity.

gensteejay:
Why don't you follow the research of the geneticists, biologists, physicists around the world, who are part of the Project 2045?

At least common sense should tell you that we, homo sapiens, will not be here forever, just like earlier species became extinct.

Only a fool will not know that scientists will one day create man. Look at advances made in robotics, stem cell technology, genetics.

You are high. Is people like you that believe in rubbish things like big bang theory.Keep deceiving yourself

gensteejay:
Homo sapien (our specie) will face natural extinction sometime in the future, the same fate homo erectus suffered.

New (eugenic) specie will arise, who will have advanced abilities, be it football, entertainment, science. They will be superhumans.

Too much sci-fi movie is worrying you

Swissh:
Rank Rijkaard,Makelele and Vieira. I know my boy is top5 in his position of all time.

Roy Keane who was better than Vieira is not among top5 of all time talkless of Vieira.