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raumdeuter:
The ray of hope that he will start at Barcelona is what matters

1 start at Barcelona is worth 20 starts at Bournemouth

Na for this thread I dey hear say Tammy score plenty goals for Derby last season, many people knew players who scored 5 goals in Madrid more than him

Yes 1 match for England is better than 100matches for Nigeria lol. You just proved kimbeast point that the only difference is media coverage.

Kimbeast:
Apart from more media coverage due to English press, there's absolutely no reason for any player of Nigerian origin to prefer England over Nigeria except you are a world class talent already guaranteed a starting spot.

Even with all the English press a solanke can still happen .

TalabiAudu:
So ambition dey with Hull City?

It's people like you that will say why do teams like west brom or Cardiff have fans/supporters. Will they ever win anything.

raumdeuter:
Who told you he is better? If Barcelona offer Ake jersey washer he will jump at it. Ross Barkley jumped at bench in Chelsea over starting at Everton never mind Barcelona vs Bournemouth

No be Barce rejects full Everton? If Barca tell dem to return they will all jump at it

Which player likes sitting on the bench? How does starting regularly for bournmouth and sitting on the bench for Barca even a debate on the development of a player career. Yes if Barca tell Paco to leave his starting spot at Dortmund and cone warm the bench at Barca he will rejoice and jump at it.

raumdeuter:
Many players will rather sit on Madrid bench than start for Hull City

Players with no ambition.

raumdeuter:
Go and see many Nigerian ex-internationals and how dem dey suffer, Some of them even got injured while on National duties sef and no insurance

Go and see how dem dey rush average NPL coaching job

You come say make a player decline a decision that can potentially add $50K weekly to earnings plus endorsement. While Sterling is endorsing big brands like Pepsi, Iwobi go dey here dey endorse Viju milk claiming Patriotism

So yekini retired and became broke and so what? David James an England international was also broke same with gascogine . Hell even Ronaldinho is currently broke.

raumdeuter:
So you think Hughes starting for Watford is better than Dembele James or Vidal sitting on Barcelona bench?

Ake starting for bournmouth was better than Denis Suarez wasting his career at Barca.

raumdeuter:
Laporte has not been called Tammy has been called

My point still stands.

Kimbeast:
Wilson is the back up striker and the player Abraham would be competing with. Southgate mostly uses Rashford as a wide forward and he'll probably keep that role because he's been good there for England.

if you really look at the long term prospects for the players, their positions means sooner or later they will be second fiddle as long as certain players are in the England team. Why be a backup to a striker like Kane which means you won't even start matches and only by God intervention will you even play than be first choice in Nigeria. Is there any rational reason at all.

gensteejay:
[s]This debate is really a strawman argument. It's a no-brainer really.

At the risk of sounding overly pessimistic, Nigeria is really in a big mess. Sadly, most of us in this country can't see this: We're sitting on a time bomb and the future of this country is very bleak.

The brain drain is too appalling. Too many skilled, brilliant Nigerians are leaving the country at an alarming rate.

The human resource is any country's greatest asset, and Nigeria is losing hers alarmingly.

This country kills people's dreams; many citizens having realized this don't want to commit their future to the gruesome reality.

It's sad most Nigerians can't think deeply. They prefer to pray. Lol.

It's a lost cause [/s].

This has nothing to do with football what so ever.

gensteejay:
This online fraudster, seankafor, is talking about patriotism.

Lol, wonders shall never end

He might be a fraudster but he is patriotic

raumdeuter:
So what advantage does it give if you are playing for Togo Guinea Bissau etc other than increasing your chances of getting injured at meaningless games when you should be resting

Joel Matip is an example

What advantage does starting for bournmouth/Watford gives than resting on the Man United/Chelsea bench?

raumdeuter:
he is first choice striker for Chelsea, Just the way Kane went from 0 cap to top 9 for England

Laporte is first choice for city but the coaches sometimes calls zouma and leaves Laporte. So untill he even has a cap we don't even know his place in the team.

raumdeuter:
Basically if you are good go to those top Nations, If you know you are poor go and find those low Nations like Nigeria to join

Yes exactly what bojan and munir thought . Both thought they were good enough for Spain so how did their international career go?

raumdeuter:
No give examples


Marcel Dessaily enter Ghana today, And Anthony Baffoe enter Ghana who do you think people will hail more.
Do you think anywhere in the world they will hail Rabah Madjer more than Zidane? even in the streets of Algeria

Rashidi Yekini a Nigerian legend no be on Nairaland people dey donate money to feed his mother? That is the great Rashidi, Not to talk of smaller players like Mobi Oparaku, Femi Opabunmi, Thompson Oliha, Isaac Semitoje

Stop giving examples of legends who had successful international careers. If Zidane had only one appearance for France will he be hailed as Rabah?

raumdeuter:
He is in better form currently than Rashford and WIlson playing for a bigger club

A starting striker from Chelsea will always be ahead of one for Bournemouth

A player with 0 app for England is not even any choice. Na mistake we make to even add am as 4th choice.

Swissh:
Honestly fuuuuucck Abraham. He should enjoy being 4th choice at England. Players will never learn .

Thank you. He is even behind Kane, Rashford and Wilson for that England spot.

raumdeuter:
If you are good enough it is.

If you are smart enough its always better to go to Amazon to work than work for Konga

Let me ask you, You are a smart geek, Amazon makes you an offer $500k a yr Andela makes you an offer which one will you pick $5K a yr

Good enough or not. Many players who have had little or no international career has shown it's not always the best decision picking the bigger nation. Do you agree?

raumdeuter:
If he was good enough he would have gained something

Diego Costa is playing for Spain, Thiago is playing for Spain. If Munir and Bojan were good enough they will play for Spain

Good so finally you agree choosing the bigger nation(Spain/England) over the smaller nation (Serbia/Nigeria ) is not always the right decision?

raumdeuter:
Tell us what Ansu Fati gains by playing for Guinea Bissau. He would be better off not having a country sef. Its better to play for Spains female team than play for Guinea Bissau

Tell him what munir and bojan gained for playing for Spain internationally?

Elnino4ladies:
Probably 10 appearances than having 100 for Nigeria

Yes you will rather play ten meaningless friendlies as probably a sub rather than a starter for Nigeria in various international competitions including the world cup.

raumdeuter:
If he is not good enough then he should sit down and improve his career than to be looking for less talented countries to play for

Should a player Reject Chelsea and stay in Bristol just because he will get chance to play Carling Cup and FA cup 12th round

Bojan choose Spain over Serbia and his international career was a disaster. End of discussion. I don't know the point you are trying to make.

raumdeuter:
Bojan was not good. Or where is his club career nowadays? You think Croatia will feature a player in Stoke division 2 football

If he had chosen Serbia he would played in many international competitions or at least had the chance to compete.

Elnino4ladies:
I will choose to play second fiddle in English team than to be a regular in Nigeria team

You will choose to have one appearance for England than 100 for Nigeria?

Kimbeast:
Sadly Ansu fati will fall into the same team as munir. He better be a special talent if not he will end up as munir and especially bojan who ended up having 0 international career.

Bojan was even more stupid. He rejected Serbia for Spain and ended up having only one appearance.

snrman:
Valverde should do and go abeg

So it was valverde that told pique to lose his brain

Kimbeast:
Spillo what did I tell you about Lautaro Martinez. He just banged one at camp nou

cold blooded finisher

Kimbeast:
May be Xavi but definitely not Pirlo. Pirlo's greatest period of his career came as a deep lying playmaker in one of the
greatest counter attacking sides of all time in AC Milan. His PRECISE role was to launch
counters the entire game with the likes of Kaka and Shevchenko breaking with
pace, and he dominated Europe for a good few years doing that. Talking strictly about long
range passing, accuracy and releasing it quickly - Pirlo was superior to Scholes.

Both were on equal level. I won't rate Xavi on Pirlo level or even scholes because he was always system reliant unlike
Pirlo and scholes who would make an impact in any system and team. Pirlo is also superior to Xavi.

Kimbeast:
Even at his best you know he doesn't mash up with the OG's

In a counter attacking team, Scholes is better then Xavi and probably Pirlo, as he added
a goal threat in and around the box

thorrvik55:
Spillo, we are still waiting for facts to prove Paul Scholes should be regarded as a great. U have all the time in the world, there is no rush...

Who is debating scholes greatness with you? I have already destroyed your assertion that only United fans rated scholes by showing your quotes from legends not even connected to United saying how great he was. That's the only thing I am interested in Mr shalaye.

Melvyn11:
Why will I compare a goat to lions of the games. I have shown you Lampard was nothing special without his awoof goals. You better self-service over Fabregas as the most talented midfielder to play for your club not that pk merchant.

Mr awoof merchant

hensben:
That is the problem with these anti-chelsea. They make reckless statement forgetting that it will come to bite them in the ass.

Nothing like reckless statement. I was not the one exposing Lampard for being nothing more than a descent player without his goals. None of you countered Melvyn with anything substantial that day.