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easymancfc:
Unfortunately for you splinz even Kabasa doesnt agree with your seventh day Adventist soul sleep heresy

Unfortunately? You have nothing to say my dear. I'm not looking out for man's agreement but that of the Word. He agrees with His word that His saints are awaiting their CHANGE at His appearing.

Not like someone who feels he must also bow down and worship one dumb idol in the name of Mary, simply because others pray with the bible.

LogicStatement:
I quoted what u wrote & pointed out what your brother in heresy, kabasa77 has stated. Both of u lack knowledge of the scriptures

My brother, go and sit down. Yes, relax. If you like, go ahead and fan yourself for a job well done. I mean, it's not easy to wickedly butcher the truths all in the name of scriptural knowledge.

Heretics!

LogicStatement:
Lk 16:19-31 tells us about the poor Lazarus in the bosom of Abraham in heaven. Also, If you say Abraham & other saints are in their graves, you are simply saying they are not alive which contradicts your earlier statement that saints are alive in Christ.
You have continuously contradicted yourself several times trying to explain what you don't understand. Also, u hardly quote the scriptures to back up your claims unlike those u've been arguing with. Mr man, let the truth be told, u lack knowledge of the scriptures and your heart is hardened.

Hmm. This one doesn't even know who said 'this & that'. SMH

redbeans:
man of little faith. Top intelligence gathering made me arrive at that conclusion

I'm not eating this rice without sauce.

Where is your proof that makydee is safiaa?

kabasa77:
My brother please let this argument,,even with the truth starring blankly at these ones the will still continue to raise baseless arguments, atleast you have given him enough attention and room to showcase his ignorance and also remember the Bible said we should desist from such meaningless argument that's profits nothing.. Let them continue in their Idol worship, as the Bible said let him that sins Continue sinning, and him that does righteously continue, for the time is near.. Its just a matter of time.

You're right bro. I know they wouldn't accept these truths. Lets just say I have a lot of time to spare.

italo:
Rev 6:9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slaughtered for the word of God and for the testimony they had given; 10 they cried out with a loud voice, “Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long will it be before you judge and avenge our blood on the inhabitants of the earth?”

They know whats happening on earth...and they pray about it.

Praise the Lord!

Mary is in her grave along with others, for no one has ascended into heaven except Jesus (John 3:13, Acts 2:34). Stop praying to a deaf, dumb, blind and lame idol in the name of Mary.

John was shown a preview of a future event (“hereafter” [4:1]). Since John was “in the spirit” as the seven seals were opened (vs. 2), the events he witnessed were not actually occurring when he saw them. They were heavenly previews of things that would happen later on Earth.

Upon opening the fifth seal (Rev. 6:9), John “saw under [at the base of] the altar the souls of them that were slain.” In Matthew 24:9-28, Christ had shown a parallel that confirms the meaning of the seven seals. The fifth seal symbolizes a coming Great Tribulation, which will occur on Earth.

In the vision, John was shown the future, with a long period of martyrdom having taken place (up to and through the Middle Ages), and a later one (the Great Tribulation) that is yet to happen in our time. The souls who were “slain” (martyred Christians throughout the ages) were told (vs. 11) to “rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.” Many of those who have died will continue to “rest” (remain “asleep” in their graves—Eph. 5:14; I Cor. 11:30) until others are also martyred.

The “souls” (dead saints) crying “avenge our blood” (vs. 10) is akin to Abel’s blood (his life—note Lev. 17:14) crying to God from the earth (Gen. 4:10). Since neither blood nor the dead talk (Psa. 115:17; Ecc. 9:5, 10), the meaning is symbolic, not literal. Therefore, the “souls under the altar” represents a future martyrdom of saints.

Ask to be taught instead of spreading your ignorance everywhere.

italo:
John20:22 When he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

Who should i believe...Jesus or splinz?

Go and sharpen your comprehension skills. I can't believe you're this dull.

italo:
Rev 6:9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slaughtered for the word of God and for the testimony they had given; 10 they cried out with a loud voice, “Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long will it be before you judge and avenge our blood on the inhabitants of the earth?”

Try again...to explain how the saints cannot pray/know about happenings on earth. Your last effort fell flat. Kabala77, help him o.

Stale. If you lack comprehension, sorry I can't help you.

italo:
John20:22 When he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

Who should i believe...Jesus or splinz?

Straws man arguments. Recycling the same thing over and over again. Are you this dull?

italo:
Thats miles away from the points.

1. You said the apostles were not given power to forgive sins, John20:22,23 said they were. Should I believe you and disbelieve Jesus...or should we dismiss the book of John too as false 'symbols?'

Eyaa... he doesn't even know that the apostles were fellow Christians just like every other Christian.

Frenzy007:
It is of great sadness to inform u pples dat adaksbullet was involved in a car accident dz morning with is g wagon he is currently responding to doctors at yabaleft hospital.....plz lets us pray for him and wish him quick recovery.

Accident... yaba left... is boda adaksbullet going mad after the accident?

Marinee:
Oya..wiarriz the password

The moment you hear of mo....

What a brutal hit back! No diplomacy at all.

italo:
Rev 6:9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slaughtered for the word of God and for the testimony they had given; 10 they cried out with a loud voice, “Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long will it be before you judge and avenge our blood on the inhabitants of the earth?”

Try again...to tell me that saints in heaven dont know and pray about events on earth. Kabasa77, help him.

Again I repeat, what is being described here is symbolical and not a literal representation. This is a common understanding of the book of Revelation.

Of course, I don't expect you to know it. I mean, for those who think of Revelation 12 “woman” as Mary, your ignorance is not a surprise.

italo:
The essence of this your poor gymnastics is to support kabasa77 that christians cannot pray for God to forgive other people's sins abi?

There's a difference between praying for God's forgiveness and one sinner sitting in a corner calling for confessions that sins may be forgiven.

A sinner forgiving sins? What heresy! Indeed, Babylon the great.

italo:
John20:22 When he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

Who should i believe...Jesus or splinz?

And I asked again: When last did your priest come to you and confess his sins and you forgave him?

italo:
You probably misread the questions. Here they are again:

Where did Jesus mention "bible?" which you kneel before?

Show me where it is written that the books of Mark and Luke are inspired...

Quite an ignorant comment, devoid of any sense.

italo:
In John 20:23, Jesus gives men power to forgive sins.

How come your priest have never come to you and confess his own sins?

John 20:23 is taken out of context. It doesn't bestow the power to forgive sins on any priest or pastor. Matthew 6:12 states: “And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.” Do you now understand it?

italo:
1Johnt:16 If you see your brother or sister committing what is not a mortal sin, you will ask, and God will give life to such a one—to those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin that is mortal; I do not say that you should pray about that.

Nothing in this passage even remotely suggest that men have the power to forgive sins. You'll also say God made man the judge and the liberator? Heretics!

italo:
James5:14 Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven

In Mark 2:1-10, Jesus showed that for sicknesses to be healed, sins must be forgiven first. Thus He first said “Son, thy sins are forgiven.” The Scribes understood the implication of what it means to forgive sins—that it is God's exclusive right, thus reasoning in their hearts, they thought Jesus was blaspheming.

So James 5:14 isn't rocket science. For God to heal the sick according to the prayers of the elders, He must first of all forgives the sins of the sufferer. Why don't you also say that it is by the power of the elders that the sick will be healed?

italo:
Easymancfc, ubenedictus

It has begun. Now that they see their heresies are clearly contradicting scripture, they are starting to eviscerate the bible, just like Martin Luther removed 7books.

Now, Revelation, not valid. Will kabasa77 also remove the books of John, James and 1John from his bible?

Are you lacking in comprehension skills or is it “symbolism” that you don't understand?

Be sensible in your comments.

italo:
Where did Jesus mention "bible?" which you kneel before?

Show me where it is written that the books of Mark and Luke are inspired...

Oh, he doesn't even know the Greek word translated “bible.” In his head, the bible is the coinage of his church. Of course, the word “bible” conjures mystery in some people’s minds, just like you. Now learn: From the Greek biblos, it simply means “a sheet or scroll of writing; book.”

And please, stop making that fallacious statements of I kneeling before the bible. I am no idolater like you. And yes... I know your own version of the bible with the apocrypha on its pages is corrupt and therefore, not an inspired word of God but of men with ulterior motives.

My own Scriptures is the inspired word of God, handed down to instruct all in righteousness.

italo:
Do you still arrogantly insist that Mary doesnt know what is happening on earth...or are ready to humble yourself and admit your ignorance.

Where did you quote that from? The book of Revelation—a vision! Almost everything in Revelation is symbolic.

Stop looking for every means of justifying your idol worship. Mary is in her grave awaiting the resurrection just like Abraham, David and the rest.

italo:
The Church told me so...

Your church is false and therefore damned!

italo:
the same Church that compiled the bible...

What nonsense! Go and learn how the Old Testament patriarchs compiled and canonized the Hebrew Scriptures, and then finally concluded with the addition of the New Testament by the apostles. You must be thinking it's everyone that buys your church's tales of compiling the Bible. Of course, your church known for its infamous activities, only changed the correct order of the Holy Scriptures into the wrong format that is in circulation today.

For example: The general epistles like James, Timothy etc, were to follow the Acts of the apostles before Romans.

italo:
Is it Jesus that told you about the bible?

Yes. Jesus is the word.

italo:
Does that make the book your idol?

How can the inspired word of God be an idol?

italo:
So you believe that Mary is unaware of happenings on earth?

I know it. You want to tell me of some demonic appearances and messages in the name of Mary?

italo:
But when I kneel before an statue idol of Jesus, it is an abomination?

Which statue of Jesus? Was it Jesus that told you that is how He looks?

kabasa77:
Mary cannot plead for ur sins, thats blasphemy, firstly she was never the one that died on the cross, only Jesus who died on the cross has that Authority..

Poor innocent woman, sleeping peacefully in her grave till the resurrection. Unaware that she has been deified. SMH

italo:
You mean this Joshua in Joshua 7:6?

"And Joshua rent his clothes, and fell to the earth upon his face before the ark of the LORD until the eventide, he and the elders of Israel, and put dust upon their heads" (Joshua 7:6).

How does that picture you have up there depicts Joshua lying down before the ark of the LORD? Why are you trying to drag idolaters like you into Joshua 7:6?

Besides, the ark of the LORD was the glory of the LORD in ancient Israel—a glory which has long departed. Is the idol of 'a' Mary and Jesus now the ark of the LORD?

Ubenedictus:
the center is called protestantism you guys now have arians,gnostics,...plus your heresy of solar scriptura etc. Oya ask yourself why the writing of the early Christians and Jews till date ask the intercession of their rightous ones. You guys have departed from right practice, that is hey orthodoxy seem strange to you.







Come out of your heresy.

Tales by moonlight. Come out of Babylon the great.

Ubenedictus:
Why not? You are a follower of the last days heresy propagated by Luther and co.

Silly assumptions. Talking of heresies, where is the center if not your church?

Ubenedictus:
oh it seems you are among those ignorant of the fact that most biblical characters prayed before statues and yet you are here condemning it?

Why not? You are a follower of the last days heresy propagated by Luther and co.

Oya clap for yourself, if I am an idol worshippers like the biblical characters like Joshua and co...I am happy. Enjoy your new age heresy.

Enjoy your idolatry, and count Joshua out of it.

bigCassava:
If to sey I know sey she need m.I for chop o...

Brother cassava, shey you don repent ni?

bigCassava:
So what do I do to stop her from calling me a gay

My brother pray for her.

Victornezzar:
Op ur so on point
dey can worship celebrities like say 2moro no dey nd dis bb naija of a tin
nairaland isn't even helping matters
dey keep moving any related bb naija topic 2 d fp

You mean BB Naija and Nairaland has a hand in the low IQ of African youths?