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Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by Splinz(m): 1:16pm On May 11, 2017
JMAN05:
He won't be unjust if he decided to save some, and condemn many who chose the wrong path. but He would be unjust to predestine them for evil, and then kill them for acting out a role he wrote for them.
Excellent! You got the message bro.
Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by Splinz(m): 1:13pm On May 11, 2017
An2elect2:
Yes foreknowledge to a layman or in our world is knowing before hand a thing. But it has a deeper meaning in the Bible than just knowing before hand.
Oh really?

An2elect2:
The "knowledge" in the word is not just information but connotes LOVE. FORE-LOVED=FORE=KNOWN.
Wow... Is there any FORE-HATED?
Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by Splinz(m): 1:07pm On May 11, 2017
An2elect2:
Splintz of course you are not stupid. I wasn't expecting you to accept your view of God even when it's so obvious. But let's see one of your posts about predestination bit by bit [i] Is this not biblical?
Let me help you complete that statement of mine you quoted:
...and some, eternal death, doesn't portray God as loving but our very enemy. Yes. He is a monster who having predestined some to commit every conceivable sin, still went ahead and condemned these ones that were simply doing His bidding.
Again, let me also help you understand my contentions here. The bible does not teach that some are predestined to inherit eternal life and some, eternal death. If it is true that our lives are predestined this way, then God is responsible for both good and evil. Yes, He is the cause of all our sins and disobedience—our woes. But no, “...Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right”? (Genesis 18:25)

In line with His will that none should perish but ALL should come to repentance and be saved, it is right to say that none is lost except he/she “...who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.” (Hebrews 6:4-6). It was on this premise that I said, if there's anyone in danger now, it is those who are CALLED—predestined in this AGE to be FIRST in God's plan of salvation for ALL. Yes, these are the ones who are currently being judged (1 Peter 4:17). And true to God's word, these called out ones [Greek: ekklesia] are very few (Luke 12:32). Be not deceived by the billions of “church goers.” The vast number of those who died before Christ and those who are not called yet will be given their chance of receiving salvation as prophesied in Ezekiel 37. Indeed, God is not in the business of mass condemnation.

So in summary, predestination or foreknowledge has to do with those called in this AGE; not those predestined to receive eternal life or death.
RomanceRe: She Doesn't Want To Date Me Because I'm An Atheist by Splinz(m): 7:18pm On May 10, 2017
That's the price you have to pay for being an atheist. To each one his cross, please carry yours, and be strong. smiley
RomanceRe: Message To Slay Queens. by Splinz(m): 7:09pm On May 10, 2017
Say no to slay queenism. smiley
PoliticsRe: An Open Letter To His Excellency, Governor Ayodele Fayose by Splinz(m):
You smack the president with a silly smirk on your face: you have reduced the office of the Presidency to a playhouse program.
Blame the APC for messing the office of the presidency. When they did it to Johnathan, they thought they wouldn't reap what they sowed.

Where is your dignity and respect for your elders? Yoruba culture is rich and endowed with profound respect for our elders. You are Yoruba. Sir, respect that sacred and unique culture of your tribe.
Enough of that emotional blackmail!

One of the fundamental elements of democracy is right to free speech.
And he is exercising that right.

It's within your rights to criticize the President, but with respect, maturity and dignity your office beholds.
You're in no position to tell Fayose how to criticize bubu. Where was your nonsense of an open letter when they were denigrating that office during the last administration? undecided

Oga swerve jare.
CelebritiesRe: See What Efe Posted On Facebook by Splinz(m): 6:43pm On May 10, 2017
So that one naira wey they dash you don make you dey yarn anyhow now, shuo?

Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by Splinz(m): 5:27pm On May 10, 2017
An2elect2:
In one of your posts you boldly and wrongly asserted that foreknowledge simply means knowing before hand.
Wrong? Okay, teach me. What is foreknowledge?

An2elect2:
So if this "God" you preach knows before hand a dear friend of yours (whom "he" claims to love so much)won't choose life why does he create him still?
Now I'm fully convinced that you don't get the message. This is certainly not a question for me.
Christianity EtcRe: The Catholic Faith: What You Need To Know by Splinz(m): 5:01pm On May 10, 2017
MZLady39:
Splinz,
Brother although I don't agree with your delivery at times (which i think you know), you still are a powerhouse.
Especially over on that other thread.
Be encouraged....cause you are correct.
Thank you big sis. You see, you don't need to agree with me at all, but only agree with the Word! If at anytime you feel that my submissions is out of syn, please draw my attention to it, and we will see if indeed something is wrong.

Thanks for your words of encouragement. smiley
EventsRe: Dollar Rains At A Nigerian Couple's Wedding. Photos by Splinz(m): 3:23pm On May 10, 2017
MissCheezyPuff:
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How many naira is that down there on the flohhuh[/color]
Enough to bring you back home my dear. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by Splinz(m): 3:10pm On May 10, 2017
menxer:
How can Predestination a Bible doctrine, a pillar of Christian belief, be a sham, just because it does not sync with your version of Christianity?
That's funny.
I expected you to understand when certain words are used in context. Did I say predestination is not taught in the bible? You mean because it is in the bible, every interpretation of it is right and can't be a sham? This has nothing to do with my version of Christianity. Predestination as currently being peddled doesn't just add up with other truths of the bible. It depicts God as a tyrant and man, His robots. So it's right to say it doesn't syn with the scriptures, not what I believed.

menxer:
@bolded, can you see that sticking out like a sore thumb? The "knowledge of right and wrong" I guess is not the one Adam was accused of getting.
Too much out of context quotes. I'm doubting if you're even getting the messages. All the same, nice mentioning you.
Christianity EtcRe: The Catholic Faith: What You Need To Know by Splinz(m):
kabasa77:
Oh please... Educated my foot
It's a way of consoling their selves.

RomanceRe: I Ordered For A Bottled Water And She's Angry by Splinz(m): 2:30pm On May 10, 2017
She probably felt embarrassed since normally, she's the one that ought to have ordered for water while you drink beer. Having disappointed her, she knows you're naturally gonna feel awkward which could lead to her exit.

Of course she does deserves the exit door. Can't bear to come back home and see that my Wine Cellar has been emptied. smiley
PoliticsRe: "How President Muhammadu Buhari Was Poisoned" Compiled Paper Floods Abuja(Photo) by Splinz(m): 2:09pm On May 10, 2017
Money must be made out of him, since he can't create the wealth for Nigerians. They will use him for money rituals. smiley
Music/RadioRe: "Made For You": Banky W Features Adesua Etomi In New Music Video by Splinz(m): 2:01pm On May 10, 2017
This is an old video na
Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by Splinz(m): 11:32am On May 10, 2017
menxer:
you now see the reason why some religious books and doctrines are up for review and updating?
yet some people are clamouring to go back to the old time christian religion.
Not that the true Church of God has ever taught that some are predestined to be saved and some to lost. The doctrine of predestination as taught today is nothing but a sham; a false representation of who God is and His plans for mankind.

You see, contrary to the false belief that TODAY is the only day for salvation, the bible shows that it is not. God is not calling everyone TODAY. If He was, then He is failing woefully and Satan is more successful than Him. Think of the billions of people that have not even heard of the name of Jesus. Think of those in gentile nations who died before Christ. Think of the billions of others practicing other faiths. The question is: what becomes of them—perished?

No!

If there's anyone who is really in danger now, it is he/she who is CALLED already and is being judged (1 Peter 4:17). These are the ones who are called first and the whole world following later. Ezekiel 37 prophesied of such a time. All those who appeared to die “without a chance” will be given their first chance to learn the truth. Some have portrayed this as a “second chance.” We have been accused of believing the doctrine of a second chance. But this will be the first opportunity—the first chance—for many to be called.

If people do not know God’s truth or were predestined not to, how can they be judged as having rejected or disobeyed it? On what basis could God condemn anyone who never knew that what they were doing was wrong or sin? What does the Bible actually say on this critical matter?

Consider! James 4:17 states, “Therefore to him that knows to do good [God’s law: Rom. 7:12], and does it not, to him it is sin.” The key is knowledge—what one knows about right and wrong—that gives God a basis for evaluating how a person has or has not yielded to Him.

Further, Hebrews 10:26-27 states, “If we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries [of God].” There is no misunderstanding this plain verse. Willful sin against God can only occur “after” one has “received the knowledge of the truth”—or after one has been called by God to understand His plan. Once again, it is clear that God considers what you do with what you know to be the standard for measuring Christian conduct.

menxer:
you know what, the more i read this OP's book the more i see reasons why more people are leaving Christianity, that book needs to be reviewed and updated or banned; but hey! who am i to suggest that?
Honestly, you're right. It paints God in the worse conceivable light—the architect of all evil! It's quite pathetic, but you know as I've stated before, let God be true and every man a liar.
Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by Splinz(m):
An2elect2:
This does not portray God as loving?Romans 8:30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified. What else does?

Let's look at what you consider as loving: God love Mr A(who is a slave of sin). Knew before time that Mr A won't choose life but rather death. Why are you not also mad at God for going ahead to bring into this world Mr A He love even when he knows his "fate" beforehand. Isn't this unloving to you?
This is totally out of syn with what I have up there. Please read and understand.
Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by Splinz(m):
menxer:
here is what i quoted from the book under review, which formed the basis for my questions:

"Predestination we call the eternal decree of God, by which He has determined in Himself, what He would have to become of every individual of mankind. For they are not all created with a similar destiny; but eternal life is foreordained for some and eternal death for others. Every man, therefore, being created for one or the other of these ends, we say he is predestinated either to life or to death."
[ Institutes, Book III, Ch. XXI, sec. 5.]

fit your sermon into that.
Oh sorry, I'm not arguing for/against Op's book. I'm only sharing what is predestination which the book seems to discussed.

But then, claiming that some are predestined to inherit eternal life and some, eternal death, doesn't portray God as loving but our very enemy. Yes. He is a monster who having predestined some to commit every conceivable sin, still went ahead and condemned these ones that were simply doing His bidding. What sort of a God is that? Is God then lying and being hypocritical when He said that He wants ALL to come to repentance and be saved? (Acts 17:30, 2 Peter 3:9)

Of course no. Let God be true and every man a liar (Romans 3:4).
Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by Splinz(m): 10:00pm On May 09, 2017
menxer:
thanks for the mention.

this your sermon how does it answer the questions i asked An2elect2 based on what i quoted from the book under review?

i will appreciate if you can answer my questions one on one.

besides, are you saying the "glorified" are lost?
@bolded, does that make sense to you? the all knowing God would not know the name of his children? that is a new one.
You're getting the bolden wrong. It means this predestination is not something that God predestinated A to fornicate, D to kill, E to worship idols, etc. If it were so, then He is the One responsible for all of our sins.

Asking if the glorified are lost means you don't get the message. I urge you to take your time and read it again. It serves to explain what the bible mean by PREDESTINATION.
PoliticsRe: Buhari Orders Amaechi, Fashola, Abba Kyari To Resign - Daily Post by Splinz(m): 7:32pm On May 09, 2017
Is this for real?
Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by Splinz(m): 7:23pm On May 09, 2017
You Have a Choice

God, through Moses, told ancient Israel that they had a choice concerning whether to obey Him. Notice: “I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore CHOOSE life, that both you and your seed may live” (Deut. 30:19). God does not mock people or nations. He would not indict all those who “did not CHOOSE the fear of the LORD” (Prov. 1:29) if they really had no power to make this choice.

You have the power to choose (Deut. 30:18-19). What will your choice be? smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by Splinz(m): 7:21pm On May 09, 2017
Just What Does Predestination Mean?

There are only four places where the King James Version of the Bible uses either the word “predestinate” or “predestinated.” So, we must certainly admit that the word is in the Bible. It is only its meaning that is still in question. Let’s read the four verses and then return to them for explanation.

The first two places are in Ephesians 1:4-5 and 1:11-12: “According as He has chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption [Greek: sonship] of children by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will…In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him who works all things after the counsel of His own will: That we should be to the praise of His glory, who first trusted in Christ.”

The other two places are in Romans 8:28-30: “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to His purpose. For whom He did foreknow [step one], He also did predestinate [step two] to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He did predestinate, them He also called [step three]: and whom He called, them He also justified [step four]: and whom He justified, them He also glorified [step five].”

We can already draw two conclusions. Did you see anything about people being predestinated to be either “lost” or “saved”? Emphatically, NO! This idea is just not there and any honest reading of the scriptures cannot make it say this. There is no reference to anyone having their fate predetermined through any supposed doctrine about predestination.

When did God decide to call those who are alive in this age?

Now notice II Timothy 1:9: “Who has saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began.” This verse does tell us that God decided to call some in this age “before the world began.” This answers the question of when God chose to call us but Ephesians 1:5 explains what was the purpose of our calling.

Ephesians 1:5 said, “Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children [Greek: spirit of sonship],” and verse 11 added, “being predestinated according to the purpose of Him who works all things.” These two verses, coupled with II Timothy 1:9, make absolutely plain that God has predestinated certain people to the purpose of becoming sons of God! There is nothing here about being predestinated to be lost or, for that matter, saved—though salvation is described here as the purpose offered to people that God calls.

Carefully notice verse 12 and the phrase “being predestinated…That we should be to the praise of His glory, who first trusted in Christ.” Paul is recording the fact that God is harvesting a few “firstfruits” now—of those “who first trusted in Christ.” The world will come second, but a few are being called and trained now to be first in God’s plan! This is an amazing and wonderful understanding. Do you grasp it? Can you see the potential within this understanding for how God might use you?

Romans 8 requires some further explanation. It actually describes five separate steps or stages as God works with a Christian from the very beginning all the way to the completion of his salvation. To “foreknow” just means to know before. There is nothing mysterious in the word and, of course, God did know us before we knew Him. At some point in God’s examination and foreknowing of any single person, He predestines, or determines, that person to be “called.” When God’s predetermined time arrives, He calls the person. The person now comes to know who God is (remember, God “foreknew” him, knew him before the one called was aware) because He is revealing Himself during the calling process. If a person responds to the call, and is converted, then that one becomes “justified”—forgiven of his sin and made just before God. Likewise, if the person continues to yield to God throughout his or her life, it will lead to “glorification”—salvation. These are the five steps describing how God works with each person—foreknow, predestine, call, justify and glorify.

Therefore, the subject of predestination has nothing whatsoever to do with being saved or lost, but with being called. More specifically, it has to do with those who are called FIRST.

So then, God decided long ago (“before the world began”) to call a group, over a 6,000-year period, to be trained to rule with Christ. He did not know their names in advance or He would have had to cause all of the fornication, rape, incest and interracial marriage that, to a certain degree, would have been involved in the 6,000 years of events required to produce any particular person. God determined to call the weak, foolish, base and despised of this world to “confound the wise…[and the] mighty” that God will call later (I Cor. 1:26-29).

cc: menxer
RomanceRe: Dont Know What My Cousin Is Up To Need Your Advice Please by Splinz(m): 6:30pm On May 09, 2017
Baasebaa0570:
AS SABI BOY I KNOW SEY NA BODY LANGUAGE THINKING IS IT RIGHT TO SAMPLE HER NA COUSIN SHE BE OOOO

PoliticsRe: Four Undisputed Facts About Nigeria by Splinz(m): 6:19pm On May 09, 2017
biaframustcome:
1. Nigeria is the most corrupt country in the world
Probably.

biaframustcome:
2. Nigeria is governed by senseless people parading as leaders, the leaders are mostly incompetent, unintelligent, mediocre, thieves etc
Oh that's right.

biaframustcome:
3. Nigeria has the worst infrastructure in the world
Oh no, that's quite an exaggeration.

biaframustcome:
4. Nigeria is resource-rich but with incompetent leaders those resourses are not optimally utilised
Good. So what's the way forward?
PoliticsRe: Orji Uzor Kalu’s 400-Room Mansion In Igbere, Abia State (Photos) by Splinz(m): 6:13pm On May 09, 2017
shocked shocked shocked

400 what? undecided
RomanceRe: Irate Girlfriend by Splinz(m): 5:42pm On May 09, 2017
Baasebaa0570:
PLEASE GUYS I NEED ADVICE ON HOW TO HANDLE MY IRATE GIRLFRIEND SHE GET ANGRY OVER LITTLE THINGS AND IF I TRY TO CONSOLE HER SHE SLAMMED ME ALWAYS sad sad sad sad
She slammed you ba? Okay, when next she slams you, simply slam her back. undecided
PoliticsRe: Is Boko Haram That Magnanimous?- Reno Omokri by Splinz(m): 3:58pm On May 09, 2017
Does this add up? Does this gel with reality? Does this even make sense? Is Boko Haram that magnanimous?
Save your breath Reno.

This is what I have in mind anytime I see Lie Mohammed for any corner...

RomanceRe: Two Category Of Men That Women Can't Control! by Splinz(m): 3:23pm On May 09, 2017
pocohantas:
but why would any woman seek to control and manipulate a man?
Because women are naturally manipulative. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Catholic Faith: What You Need To Know by Splinz(m): 7:43am On May 09, 2017
easymancfc:
I might be presumptuous.. in assuming that you are a seventh day Adventist.. because all your thinking fits their theology..

You didn't prove that rev 6:9 is symbolic.... it is not, there are no symbolic martyrs, there is not symbolic vengeance, there is no symbolic people on earth to get vengeance on
You see! Am I surprise? No. Enjoy your spree of ignorance.
Christianity EtcRe: The Catholic Faith: What You Need To Know by Splinz(m): 7:17am On May 09, 2017
easymancfc:
Your founder Ellen Gourd White had no authority...
Silly assumptions. Who is even Ellen Gourd?
Christianity EtcRe: The Catholic Faith: What You Need To Know by Splinz(m): 7:13am On May 09, 2017
LogicStatement:
grin what a pity! grin
Yeah... My pity is with you my dear. My prayer is that you come out of Babylon the great- a den of demons!
Christianity EtcRe: The Catholic Faith: What You Need To Know by Splinz(m): 7:10am On May 09, 2017
easymancfc:
Every time someone proves you wrong you blame it on the person's comprehension skills, I assume you are a know it all with all the ability of comprehension and others have little or non...
indeed the book of revelation has a symbolic dimension, it doesn't mean everything in the book of revelation is symbolic..
I can't be prove wrong over what I know. If I'm wrong, I'd admit so.

I'v proven that the said Revelation chapter and verse is symbolic. You can't refute it except you want to go on a spree of ignorance talks.

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