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Amarabae:
You have given him a son and yet still a girlfriend.
Nawa o

She's a free giver.

xynerise:
Any soothsayer in the house?

Yes. The guy will slap her silly in the future.

There's nothing like "anti-corruption candidate" but the most "hypocritical candidate".

LogicStatement:
I decided not to answer that question because simple comprehension is what is affecting you, you need to be told at this point

Now that's funny... . I can understand your frustrations and pains here. But hey! Try this stunt with those in your league. I'm above such gimmicks.

LogicStatement:
I have written that article with scriptural quotations to back the facts up but since you have been posting, you have not debunked any of the facts. All you've been doing is make noise here.

Sorry dear, you haven't back your idolatry with any scripture because non supports it. You're only good at butchering the truths. Don't forget you still haven't answer the one simple question I've been asking: Which of the saints did Abraham & Jesus asked for intercession, as given in your examples of those who made intercessions for the people?

And yes... the only support and facts you can rightfully claim here, is from paganism.

Ubenedictus:
It must make you feel proud to call the old testament saints idol worshippers, Oya add Paul to that list.

This has zero sense. Come up with something better. Diverting wouldn't change the fact that you're an idol worshiper just like the traditionalists do.

Ubenedictus:
anyone who hold scriptures alone abuses the scriptures which teach no such thing and reject such silly belief.

You mean the corrupt one that has on its pages the apocrypha? Yours is inconsequential and therefore damned.

Ubenedictus:
And you ar ar decider if who and who are authentic Jews right?

I know who they are, it's a pity you don't know.

Ubenedictus:
does that question even make sense to you?

Of course it does to all discerning minds except you. Sorry.

Ubenedictus:
Joshua and all the old testament believers must all be idolaters since Splinz has decided that idolatry consists in kneeling or bowing before an image while saying a prayer before same.


Welldone you just made many rightous men candidate of hell.

Is this the best you can come up with in differentiating between you and a traditional worshiper? Okay well done, but that was a very lame attempt.

Ubenedictus:
Oya all clap for the discerning mind who thinks he knows biblical practices better than both the Jews and the early Christians

I do not know of a true Jew nor the early disciples that prayed to a saint in heaven for their intercessions. Not that there's any; but none.

Ubenedictus:
the heresy number 2 solar scriptura. What next?

Your traditions is inconsequential. While you uphold traditions, I uphold the scriptures alone.

Ubenedictus:
I have never seen a Catholic with an idol. When you are ready to discuss without these insulting insinuations let me know.

Sorry bro if you feel insulted. I wish I could somehow sugar-coat this truth, but no. Kneeling/bowing before a statue of a so-called Mary or Jesus in an act of prayer is not different from what traditionalists do. Can you tell the difference between yours and theirs?

Ubenedictus:
your request for more scripture after you have failed to address the ones presented to you simply show y aren't ready to engage in a serious discussion.

You don't expect me to swallow such brutal twisting of the truths, do you? Your fellow traveler claims that Abraham and Jesus made intercessions for the people, and I asked: Which of the saints did they asked for this intercessions?

Ubenedictus:
And yet you have not even tried to refute him. Sorry dear you are just making noise.

I don't need to refute anything. His butchering of the truths is conspicuous to discerning minds except maybe you.

Ubenedictus:
where is it written t the dead lose their ability to interceed?

And where is it written that the dead can intercede for the living?

Ubenedictus:
do you know anyone who makes intercessions to Mary and the Saints? All I have found are people who ask that Mary and the Saints interceeding on their behalf.

Which of the departed faithfuls did Mary pray for their intercession while she was alive?

Ubenedictus:
you have come to criticise and yet to didn't bother to understand before criticising.


Intercessions aren't made to saints, even a j.j.c should know that. Intercession is a prayer made to God on another's behalf. Members of christ body make intercession for one another just as Abraham made Intercession for sodom, and moses made for the isrealites even the apostle Paul asks for Intercession. These are rudiments of prayer and I an surprised that I am repeating them to someone who claims to be Christian.

Every member of christ body is a priest and so capable of interceeding for others. We are each capable of bee intercessors and this ability does not disappear when we die. In fact a Christian never dies according to christ. These are also rudimentary teachings you should know already.

All the op does and has been done both in judaism and in the church for over 2000yrs is he asks his fellow Christians to make intercession for him.

These are explanations you give to your fellow Catholic, not someone like me. Being smart by half wouldn't work here.

“Intercessions aren't made to saints”, so what do you do when you kneel before the statue of 'a' Mary and pray to the idol? The question is: Which of the faithful servants throughout the ages has ever prayed to a departed faithful for his/her intercession?

You may as well help in answering this one question: Which of the saints did Abraham or Jesus prayed to for their intercessions?

jamp:
....Bros no need for all these. Op made his point, so you can seek for clarification or counter his claim point by point.

It is too small a thing to counter, I've done it for uncountable times. Thing is: he has no point! He can't even answer the simple question I asked him about the intercession he claimed were made by Abraham and Jesus. Can you help him by telling me which of the saints that these intercessions were made to?

jamp:
The truth is nothing said here will change your view about catholic church and nothing you say will change catholic view about penticoastal.

I'm not here to change any view. Don't forget this is a public forum.

jamp:
Idolatry...what about the images of pastor and pastor Mrs all over the churches now.? Are they not images. I see TB Joshua, oyedepo etc images on cars, churches etc. Chosen wear their pastor and redeem have bands etc.

I don't know any of these churches. So, I don't speak for them.

Now, all these talks of “what about this... what about that person” is stale already. Are these people your own standard? While there's absolutely nothing wrong in having a friend's picture in either your house, car, office, etc, the moment that image becomes an abomination is when you put it before you, kneel/bow and pray to it. That is outright idolatry! So, in which of these churches you've mentioned is the worship/veneration of images sanctioned, as it is done in your Catholic church?

Tell me, that I may also call them out for their idolatry.

PS: Philippians 4:6 states: “...but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God”, not unto “Mary” or the “saints.” You don't need an intercessor to get your prayers to God, pray to Him in the name of Jesus as the mediator and you'll be heard! Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Joshua, Samuel, Deborah and other faithful servants of God never ask any saint or angel for intercession, but all made their requests and supplications directly to God, who is the hearer of prayers! (Psalm 65:2).

effico:
But you are resorting to insult just to castigate his views which even has biblical backings.

I see. All these talk of insults is nothing but an emotional blackmail. Sorry, it doesn't work on me.

Op has no biblical backing for his rank idolatry, but the same old terrible twisting of scriptures to say what they want it to say. I asked a question which you may as well help him answer: Did Abraham asked Noah to intercede or was it Jesus that prayed for an intercession from one of His angels?

Op's submission in his bid to justify the worship (all that talk of "honoring" is a grand deception!) of Mary is simply humorous.

LogicStatement:
One thing about most of you Protestants is that you result to insult when you don't have a superior augment.

Who is a protestant? Where is the insult and the superior argument?

Seems you're a starter in this forum. I'd advice you to go for more studies. At least learn better ways of twisting Scriptures to somehow support your idolatry.

Your outing here is nothing but a disaster. Such wicked butchering of the truths!

kabasa77:
Lol.. You are just twisting the scriptures...

Yeah. Aside his lame attempts aimed at justifying their rank idolatry and sheer butchering of the truths, the question is: Did Abraham pray to Noah to intercede or was it Jesus that prayed to angel Michael for intercession? And yes... he doesn't even know who a saint is.

Such a needless show of ignorance. SMH

And the NEPA guy be like: "Alaye person no fit play with you ni"?

So Sullivan Chime decamped to APC and a party is thrown to welcome him? You see! APC is nothing but a conglomerate of highly skilled and un-retired thieves!

As for Oyegun and his bogus claims, good to see that the old man still have a good sense of humor.

I wonder how people will see babalawos and still called them pastors.

Learn1:
I've had sex before but this is new

Really? Okay, calm down. Pre-intimacy must have drained you of all the excitement before the real deal. It's normal.

Learn1:
I invited her to my house after a bit snack we went for the show made her wet did everything at first I got and erection but when I put the condom inside I lose it...

Oh congratulation bro on your new found status as a eunuch.

omenkaLives:
Made it an obligation not to read anything written by this mad man.

What happened to that obligation, seeing that you're here commenting on a mad man piece? Are you also mad?

omenkaLives:
The shortest and surest way to become a violent radical with a mind preoccupied with extreme hate is to read his pieces - always about one ethnic group against another or one religion against another.

You've just described yourself. Is the pot then calling the kettle black?

omenkaLives:
I really fear for the kind of children he'd raise.

I feared most for yours.

So sorry for such a frustrating plight. I'd advice you to watch your speed when you talk; take your words calmly. And of course if possible, do away with anger entirely.

Pele.

Kericoo:
Have they always not said self-love is the greatest love of all time— apparently a certain South African woman is making good on that bid.

You're mistaking self-consolation and chronic frustrations at its peak to mean self-love. This is a show of a desperado.

Safiaa:
Okay can we stop using their relationship as a tool to judge every one else.

Not until you're Adesualize.

Safiaa:
Its getting ridiculous now. Im just seeing things everywhere.

Kini? Wait until your pastor starts using it as his sermons topic, then you'll know that you haven't seen anything yet.

Safiaa:
Their relationship is not a bible we must worship ah beg.

Their relationship is the next big thing after Mary/Joseph's own. So what? Honor them like the Catholics do.