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iamoyindamola:
This is all I need to see to know who I am dealing with
The same wingers didn't pass through this phase they just jumped in
Calibre of players indeed🤣🤣🤣

Everyone is against academy players leaving. The question is how is it Arteta's fault?

Is he the one coaching the academy? Or is he the one fixing contracts for the players?

Last season most of our bench players hardly got playing time because we exited both the FA cup and the Carabao cups early. Or you want him to play academy in a PL or CL match? When there are other senior players (both those in bench and returning from injury) that haven't seen enough minutes?

germaphobe:
No be today young stars start to de leave their parent clubs, some make it out big, while others flop in their new quest, the main thing is to make sure those that gain the promotion are better to the squad.

It's the same way we cried about Hutchinson. Where is he now? Not Chelsea but Ipswich. Let's see whether he will command a starting shirt.

Jodera:
While I get your point but I think we're talking two different things but still I'll address the bolded.

For the first bolded, Clubs isn't a type of slave trade to players. Remember, this players are under contract so you can't slash their salary just because they have injury or don't follow nutrition regimen(except where stipulated otherwise which is very very rare). While club will do their best, but it's still up to the individual to try and improve or better themselves if possible. Players job is just to be available on the pitch and give their all. Sure, club will make the environment and facilities great for training and all but it's still up to the players to take personal responsibility to improve and discipline themselves. No club will babysit you like say you dey pry school. Remember say na adults you're dealing with. Rich adults for that matter.

As for the second bolded, thankfully Whites don't just "accept" it. I'm talking about improvement in fitness and ways whereby a player won't be having recurring injuries frequently. While I admit everybody's body is different but Science and technology have made those whose body is fragile to be stronger than how it ought to be. The said player just needs to put in the work. Remember, nobody will force dem to put in the work highest it's just to advise and do recommendation. With all those money and plenty enjoyment, it's not easy for most of these "fragile" players to be disciplined enough to see it through. Dembele Is a very big/good example.

You think the clubs will thousands of dollars weekly and not control your diet or training regime? Bros it's not slavery, it is like you rushing to make it to office before 8am.

You have emphasised so much on the bolded. In fact that's a definite statement. Now I am going to ask you to give me one 'science and technology' example that makes people who are not to be built for sporting activities.

Khyrvxjzy:
chose one verydarkman borehole or peter obi borehole

if you dont have water in your community and you have privileged to chose who to do borehole for you, will you chose peter obi or verydarkman

Must you publish your stupidity on NL?

Mynd44:
There is actually nothing epic about Aisha Yesufu lying about what happened in South Africa.

Only dishonest people think doubling down when caught in your lies is epic

You won't see it 😜

Bayo's response to Aisha's pessimism is that she is bitter because her candidate lost an election a year ago. Aisha's response is that if that election loss was the only defense Bayo has, an election his principal won by rigging then he is a failure. Because his principal could shut her up by responding with good governance. Besides Bayo himself is irrelevant.

Jodera:
You mean that with the advancement of nutrition, science and technology, those things can't be improved on or downright mitigated?? You believe that that will still be a limitation to players in this day and age?

I've read about most players who are mostly injury prone and one thing I realized is that most of them aren't putting in the work or making the sacrifices they need to make. It's not easy cos most will cut off most foods they cherish which they wouldn't want to AND also do more work to strengthen their bones, than what the average footballer do. Forget Steroids you gave cos that's even banned in sports

I remember reading on Partey beginning of last season (not this season that just passed) saying he will cut down on his noodles (cos he loves noodles well) and also do more of the recommended exercise so that he would tackle his recurring injuries that have plagued him consistently at arsenal. Do you think Partey being fit for most part of 2022/23 is just luck or coincidence?
Dembele (ex Barca player) is another good example cos this is someone who didn't follow Barca's dieting to prevent injuries.

There are ways to combat that bolded if one is unfortunately affected by it. One just needs to put in the work and do the necessary sacrifices.

I don't believe in this day and age, a good player " whose body is not built for high level football" still exists. Tierney should try and work on himself. Cut out some foods(that might trigger injury) if possible and get the best physios. He shouldn't just allow his talent to waste in his prime.

I am not saying that's the case with Tierney or any of those players you mentioned even though it could be. If diet or training regime was the simple solution, you think those players won't be pointed out? You think the club's won't cut their salaries whenever they violate the diet rules or get injured?

The fact about body make up is a scientific proven one. It's like school work. Some people are not just wired for school while some are. No technology or modern science as if today will make an slowpoke become a genius. No science will make a 6foot man become 4feet or vice versa.

Some people naturally have veins on their skin while some have theirs inside. These things are natural. Some players only need push ups to have stamina while some no matter what they do will not get to that level. Some players can run for 90mins while some can't.

Have you wondered why Nigeria is the best in Africa in sprints but Kenya and Ethiopia are the best in long distance? You think it's training and diet only?

We just have to accept it.

Jodera:
It's so sad.
I also think all these fragile players needs to watch their diet cos I don't believe in this time, age and invention, one's body won't be "built for sport".

One of the reasons Saka says he's durable is because he cut(completely stopped) eating pizza, Sugars (like Cakes, fizzy drinks and all) and also careful with the kind of food he takes.

Ronaldo lasting in the game for long too is the most popular example and inspiration about dieting. Most of these players should imbibe these into their sporting lives. I know it won't be easy but it's the sacrifice they need to make at least to last in the game.

If na person like Partey wey don old, it's understandable but not Prime Tierney. It's just so sad he's always breaking down recurrently, I just hope he does something about it.

You are right about diet. But that is for people who are already fit.

Just as people have bow legs or k legs etc, some people's muscle structure cannot withstand the rigours of sports especially at that high levels. Many of them take steroids just to catch up which itself becomes detrimental in their future.

Some have the brain to play football but not the brawn.

GloriousGbola:
there is no difference between you and the mobs that killed corpers in 2011. like you, they too wanted 'good governance' and believed this gave them the right to attack anyone who they perceived as being in the way of that.

If this is how you reason then CM Chipolla law is at work.

GloriousGbola:
It is nothing of the sort. It is a coalition of uncouth online thugs who think politics is about insulting people who disagree with them for clout.

Most of you are immature disrespectful rascals better ignored

The other day a clown in the movement was calling Obj a political prostitute and jobber. That is what your movement is. A bunch of online thugs who will abuse anyone who goes against their cult leader Peter obi, a mediocre underachieving and previously condemned member of Nigerias political establishment who had been rechristened as a symbol of good governance.

And I ask you who own the thugs? You think it's Peter Obi? You are wrong.

The rage of Obidients online is simply a reflection of the anger and zero tolerance for anything or anyone that reminds them of bad governance or old time transactional politics. This is now even compounded by the current situation of things.

Even Peter Obi who is the face of the movement came under severe attack some time ago when he looked like he wanted to call for peace or when he looked like aligning with Atiku.

I agree it's an angry mob but it's an angry mob that is tired of what we call democracy and seeks a better nation.

You should join if indeed you want good governance. Supporting BAT despite all these unfriendly policies, selfish use of public funds and wicked lies and propaganda is the reason why you think they are attacking you. Cross carpet and you will discover they bond very well with each other.

GloriousGbola:
This is the summary of the obidient movement

Labour Party is not Obidient movement.

Whatever nomenclature you choose to call it, it's a set of Nigerians that want good governance. Simple.

Theflint1:
I just dey look them, maybe Dem Neva Sabi as party politics dey go. If no be PDP wey no serious, those g5 governors suppose don chop suspension since... Best you can do as a member of a party is pass on campaigning for a candidate you don't agree with, but to say you'd belong to one party, then campaign for another party far from normal.

The High court judge is Justice Liman that was once suspended for corruption by the NJC. He was the one that issued a court order from the US.

Jodera:
It's sad seeing him being limited because of injury.
I so hate it when a good player can't enjoy his footballing career because of injuries. It's so sad

Some people are not just built for sports

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Abeg wetin be the joy in taking drugs?[/color]

Somewhere in Philadelphia... pic.twitter.com/R0LM9e51li

— Instablog9ja (@instablog9ja) June 19, 2024

Any one who can explain is on drugs.

E for better for Tierney to begin learning coaching now. That's how it happened for Klopp and Wenger and all those German young managers. If injury nor gree you start learning coaching early. It can give you over 30years career.

mostob:
ok

Cool 😎

Jodera:
This is exactly my point when people are omitting Foden.

How will it be that an Epl best player can't break into England squad?
Like not only a Man City starter but current Epl best and league winner. Such player is considered a squad player because of balance? I've never heard of such sha and I doubt the Fa will take it lightly if Southgate does such.
It's not easy at all for a coach to bench him, no matter the reason he wants to give. Bellingham winning La liga best player even compounds matter.


Southgate should just play him and Bellingham in midfield. Forcing him out on the wings (not even his favorable wing sef) will not do both England and Foden any favor

Thank you jare.

If Southgate can't find a role for Foden he will be criticised, and if he dare loses he is in soup, it's very simple. I remember it was a debate some weeks ago.

mostob:
Let me divide everything for you and move.

1. Your bolded is contradictory. Balance has nothing to do with best players. You can try to fit all your best players in the same lineup and an inferior team will beat your team mercilessly.

2. Saka and Salad are inverted wingers by your definition but both are different type of player. Arteta may play him as a wide forward in future but for now, he is a winger. The only wing forward I our team in Martinelli that's why we wanted Arteta to play him as a striker sometimes back.

3. All your examples didn't follow. The teams you mentioned were able to find balance and at the same time fit in their best players in the team. Can you say the same about England?

4. Kovacic is not an AM!!!!!

Your number 1 and number 3 especially the bolded part are different.

As for your question about England, I think you are living in denial because England has all her best players fitted into the first team.

I gave you several examples and you lie that they don't fit in and I am like I thought you were going to give me one example of a country that does not play all their best players in their first team.

Even the Serbia I am watching now has Vlahovic and Mitrovic both strikers in their team. Even Tadic is playing as a no10.

It's easy to just call someone's observation contradictory without providing any evidence simply because you can type. I challenge you to give me one example.

germaphobe:
Uruguay you mean?.

Oh thanks for the correction.

Let me add Germany in this Euro.

They have Kroos, Gundogan, Musiala, Wirtz, Havertz and they played all of them. Formation 4-2-3-1 no wingers in their starting eleven. Not that they don't have but they play all their best players.

Mostob

mostob:
When you have a close to star-studded team in which every players are on top of their game, what you as a coach should consider first is balance.

Lionel Scaloni couldn't take Dybala to Copa America. Sometimes, we have seen Dybala and Lautaro Martinez sitting in the bench. Why? There must be balance.

The formation you proposed here can't work please. Saka is a winger, a proper winger at that.. not a wide forward.

First of all Saka is not a proper winger. At bestbhebis inverted. An inverted winger is a forward. A proper winger is like a midfielder.

That said, I am not against balance. I am simply saying that whatever you do you must accommodate your best players. National team football is not club football where you get all you want. In national team it's what's available so you try to maximise it. That's what makes you a national team coach.

Let me use Scotland as an example. They have two class left backs. In Tierney and Robinson. They have to play both of them. That's why they play a bac three so Tierney plays as a half CB.

Another example is Croatia that just finished playing. They have to clash AM in Kovacic and Modric. They played both of them.

If your best players are two strikers, play a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2. When Mexico had Forlan and Suarez they played both. The only way you can avoid this is if both are GKs.

mostob:
Balance should come first before trying to shoehorn players into the starting line up based on their name or whatever. And no, the 442 won't be ideal for England because of the profile of wingers they have.

What ever system or balance you will suggest must include those two as well as other key players if not the team's strength will be diminished.

By the way which wingers? Only winger I see is Saka and he can play with Kane as a front two

................... Kane...... Saka..................
..................... Bellingham.....................
Foden........................................... TAA
........................... Rice............................

GloriousGbola:
alienating everyone and anyone is in the core dna of the obidient

imagine the deranged audacity, disrespect and outright stupidity of calling obj a political prostitute and jobber

According to MC Cipolla laws of stupidity those who support actions that does not benefit them are the stupid ones.

We need that level of audacity to change the political and socioeconomic landscape of this country. For years politicians have been doing things any how and going Scot free. We need critics like the 'obidiiots' who can criticise anyone including the man that carries the face of the mob.

I don't get this idea of showing respect to someone who failed to respect himself. Respect is reciprocal. If a elder steals and is caught, I shouldn't call him ole because he is my egbon? That's stupidity. If you don't dance naked on the streets no body will call you a madman. Even if it is culture let the culture change because it is not beneficial to anyone.

liveLongNprospa:
I support bayo

100%

This is the only thing Bayo has said that I support fully and whole heartedly.

Who needs Shetti- Bobo at this time?

Asiwaju must stay alive till at least Jan, 2027.

BlueRayDick:
Nigeria’s Worrisome Corporate Exodus - Punch Editorial

https://www.nairaland.com/8129052/nigerias-worrisome-corporate-exodus-punch .

I thought the argument has always been that we dont pay enough tax in Nigeria . Here is Dangote alleging he pays 52 per cent tax on every one Naira his company earns. Let’s not forget the multiple taxation we the common men face .

At least we can see that it’s not because the foreign investors cannot compete that’s why they are leaving in droves . I mean ; in what investment friendly country will u be expected to pay 52 per cent tax , forced to provide your own electricity , forced to pay community development levies , face difficulties in repatriating profit in foreign currency, face security threat to ur expats , etc ?

Wise men say...
Only fools rush in...
But I can't help ...
Supporting BAT 🦇

germaphobe:
Incomings will be decisive but regardless of who's coming in, anything trophyless again I jump ship. Arteta better start taking every competition seriously as pep does, no be Wenger wey no value Calabar cup(it's actually crazy that Wenger didn't lift the carabao cup in his 26 years). All of them matters, all of Dem.

You are spot on. Having gone so close to the title till the last day, not winning the league next season will be retrogression.

I hope we can get all the additions we need because there is no more excuse to give.

mostob:
He will come in from the bench. Or he can even start while Foden comes in later. Anyhow sha

Any system must accommodate the two to maximise the strength of the team.

The worst is to play them as a double 8 with a sitting DM at the base. Or do what Ancelotti does, play them in a diamond midfield with either at the tip.

mostob:
Foden, Rice and Mainoo should be starting in midfield but Southgate knows better.

If France or Germany catch this England team eh...

So where will Bellingham play?

BATeria infected minions are doing their best to discredit the song. Some of them are wondering how they will feed after typing their nonsense. However let them know that the message has been passed.

DeadPresidents:
The speech reminded me of the one Lord Farquaad made to his men who were to infiltrate the Dragon‘s lair in Shrek.

"Some of you may die, but it is a sacrifice I am willing to make"

BAT oh 🤣

OasisX:


......dem want drag Oasis. LMFAO

You should be rushing back to Nigeria to enjoy the renewed hope. Since you ran away to stone the devil you never came back.

OasisX:



.......how many times do I need to educate Obimumûs that headlines don't always tell the full story?!

Since we are dummies, the best way to tell us that BAT is doing well is to give us an example of another country that is suffering the same pains like us?

Jodera:
Lol, experience shouldn't be a problem na. This guy have been in top flight football for how many years now. It's not as if we're buying one greenhorn from Africa or far east Europe.

Anyways, let's just see wetin Arteta and Edu go get for us. Las Las, we fit no buy any Striker sef

I neto see the person that marketed Solanke to you. That person is a great marketer.

BlueRayDick:
There’s nothing , absolutely nothing that warrants the club to to have sleepless night over keeping an amateur player that won’t turn 17 until later this year.

If the boy feels he wants to leave and not ready to take his chances on the bench while on an average salary like players in his age grade, then by all means he should leave .

I don’t buy into all these sentimental attachment to any academy graduate .

You will be right if you're not interested in making money.

It's not about him playing or not, it's about the demand for him. That's the point I made.