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PoliticsRe: PEPT: Can Tribunal Send Mr Tinubu Straight To Prison From Aso Rock? by Spy360(m): 8:03am On Jul 07, 2023
Spirit04:
1. He didn't commit any perjury they've submitted all his academic records.
2. INEC followed their guidelines. Court already ruled that only INEC can make decisions to safeguard results. INEC said you people were trying to hack their site and upload fake results which is why they waited until it was safe.
Besides the results have been uploaded so I don't know what you are complaining about.
3. Results being blurred on IREV is irrelevant. IREV copies are just synonymous to photocopies. If you collect certificate from your school and photocopy it but the photocopy came out blury it doesn't invalidate the original certificate that your school gave you or what they have on record.
You people are just playing with yourselves. The case is ridiculous, it will be dismissed and both Obi and Atiku will be fined a minimum of 50m for playing with judges and wasting everybody's time. I'm 100% certain. There's no way they won't pay fine
Bold 1: If the academic records they submitted are different from the ones given to INEC then he has confirmed that he submitted fake certificates to INEC. If they are the same, then he has not provided any evidence against the records being used against him by the petitioners. Either way he is gone.

Bold 2: Stop spreading falsehood. IREV image is not photocopy. It's in Jpeg format. If those blurry images are CTCs from INEC then you have no excuse. Even on the IREV server they are blurred. I am sure you haven't taken time to view it. Also on that server you see pictures of for example someone having his bath instead of a result sheet. That's gross noncompliance. Those poorly presented images are the form EC8s that were manipulated in favour of TInubu. 18000+. Those would be deducted from Tinubu and added to Obi.

In addition, you guys have not told us the nature of the glitch. Is it wayo glitch? AWS have already stated that their servers were 100% on the very day all over the world.
PoliticsRe: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 7:56am On Jul 07, 2023
pquaver:
How can original be clear and u do photocopy sometimes, it wont be clear? See question person wey dey reason dey ask..
How then will you explain why some pictures on IREV show people taking their bath? Abi na photocopy change the result to person wey dey baff?
You are not talking to an illiterate oga. IREV is not synonymous to photocopiers. It is similar to an image you snap with a camera. The image is in jpeg format. When you use your phone to snap a document it appears the way it is. The image on BVAS should be as clear as the original.

You people should speak truth to conscience it has a way of coming back to you.

I am not saying you should not support your candidate but at least say the truth when you see it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 9:20pm On Jul 06, 2023
BlueRayDick:
Some of these protests and knee jerk reactions are just comical to say the least.

The ruling party conducted an election which they invited independent observers to come witness....The observers draw up report based on what they observed happened during the election and now same ruling party is having protesters matching up and down the capital in a bid to reject the EU observer's report. No be juju be that ?

So as una don convince una self say what happened was a "free and fair election", una still get mission to erase the memory of the observers as to what happened and replace it ur own version of what happened ?

https://www.nairaland.com/7755086/heavy-security-pro-tinubu-protesters-storm
They were happy to chop the 17b donation from EU but doesn't want their independent observation.

I am always weary of anything Pro-Tinubu. Propaganda is his biggest weapon. That is why two of his top media directors were fingered as masters of spreading fake news. Both are lawyers and ex-ministers. What a shame.
PoliticsRe: How Peter Obi Lawyers Smartly Used Tinubu's Witness Evidence To Nail Tinubu by Spy360(m): 9:15pm On Jul 06, 2023
Lotanna2:
Continue ranting childishly kid
It runs away as usual. What an irredeemable slowpoke.
PoliticsRe: PEPT: Can Tribunal Send Mr Tinubu Straight To Prison From Aso Rock? by Spy360(m): 9:13pm On Jul 06, 2023
Spirit04:
They will dismiss the case and fine both Obi and Atiku 50m each. I don't know what evidence you're talking about don't allow people to toil with your brain forever. The case is just ridiculous and defy any form of common sense and logic. They have zero chance of winning
Are you speaking based on facts or you are prophesying. All I see here are mere sentiments.

There are powerful evidences to knock Tinubu out of Aso Rock. The only question that beckons is the independence of the judiciary.

1. Tinubu committed perjury by submitting faked certificates and hiding his Guinean citizenship.

2. INEC did not follow their electoral guidelines.

3. Evidences of results manipulation abound. This is backed by blurred result sheets on IREV.

These three and more are enough to kick out the confirmed drug criminal from Nigeria's highest office.
PoliticsRe: PEPT: Can Tribunal Send Mr Tinubu Straight To Prison From Aso Rock? by Spy360(m): 9:07pm On Jul 06, 2023
wolesmile:
Mark my words...

Obi and Atiku will be fined for wasting the time of the tribunal. They're yet to prove anything till date.
Obi will appeal and lose.
Obi will, with his tactical brainwashing attitude on his unsuspecting followers, strive to remain relevant till 2027. That one will even be worse.
Obi is not a presidency material.
Obi is a BOY!!!
On colos
PoliticsRe: INEC And BAT APC May Lose Woefully To Peter Obi And Atiku In Court by Spy360(m): 9:03pm On Jul 06, 2023
BAT supporters will either use insults or use vague conclusions without proof.

I will be waiting for any of them sensible enough to bring up counter points against the Op.
PoliticsRe: How Peter Obi Lawyers Smartly Used Tinubu's Witness Evidence To Nail Tinubu by Spy360(m): 8:45pm On Jul 06, 2023
Lotanna2:
Peter failed to present concrete evidence
What evidences did he present? Mention them.

I want to expose your ignorance.
PoliticsRe: How Peter Obi Lawyers Smartly Used Tinubu's Witness Evidence To Nail Tinubu by Spy360(m): 2:12pm On Jul 06, 2023
IconicR:
Oya we are waiting for judgement, judgement that you all will still fault
Off course we are waiting for judgement. So on what basis do you think Tinubu will not be sacked?
PoliticsRe: How Peter Obi Lawyers Smartly Used Tinubu's Witness Evidence To Nail Tinubu by Spy360(m): 2:11pm On Jul 06, 2023
IconicR:
He did not win anything, there's no way he'll win . You all are so naive about Nigeria politics
This is the usual rhetoric of agbado people without any proof or explanations. You just reach a conclusion out of no where, and denying all the facts laid before you.

Even if Tinubu is a god, with you as worshipper he is not infallible. I advise you to change for the sake of your sanity.
PoliticsRe: How Peter Obi Lawyers Smartly Used Tinubu's Witness Evidence To Nail Tinubu by Spy360(m): 2:07pm On Jul 06, 2023
helinues:
Smartly?

Should Obi and smartness be in the statement?

undecided
I expected a smart guy like you to stand as a witness for Tinubu so that you will present all those analysis you give us here to them.

Why didn't they invite you? Are you really smart? huh
PoliticsRe: Datti Ahmed Laughing After INEC Witness Failed by Spy360(m): 2:03pm On Jul 06, 2023
001Lagos:
Tinubu has been reduced to a laughing stock by the people that he called to defend him in court ..

Tinubu is a joke 😂🤣😂🤣

PoliticsRe: Datti Ahmed Laughing After INEC Witness Failed by Spy360(m): 2:02pm On Jul 06, 2023
aswani:
Switruth,

I don't understand your response in the context of my message.

If the information I have posted is false, please regal us with the correct information.
1. Tinubu would be disqualified

2. The votes that he stole (the 18000 PU) would be restored

3. Based on 1 and 2, Peter Obi would be declared winner.

Clear?
PoliticsRe: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 8:20am On Jul 05, 2023
garfield1:
Oga, guidelines cannot be used to nullify elections.
Secondly,rigging could have happened under any transmission whether electronic or manual.it is now left for you to prove it and show how it denied you victory substantially.did lp do that? NO.they are only assuming.
Lp only dumped physical result sheets in court.they failed to display or showcase the actual forms with irregularities,mutilations or blurriness.they only showed 18,000 blurred irev results.blurred results are different from mutilated results.blurred means unclear,mutilated means clear but with a lot of changes
Why then did INEC bring their ICT expert to defend themselves if there was nothing to defend and IREV means nothing?

Play on.
PoliticsRe: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 7:54am On Jul 05, 2023
ImperialYoruba:
Irev is a public service. So INEC gave commitment, promising transparency with the result. The result is a utility for public consumption. In such arrangements the commitment is treated as a service level . If Irev is not available they failed SLA (service level agreement). This does not mean the collated data at source lost validity.

By the way, what is the data? It is an ink stamped ballot paper. That is the data itself.

Is this what they put in Irev? NO.

Ink-stamped ballot papers, classified by party logo are counted at each polling unit and recorded on a form. The form is then endorsed by each party agent present. Over 176,000 polling units forwarded their endorsed forms to INEC. After adding all the reports on the forms to obtain result for each party and candidate the outcome is shared.

As part of its process improvement, INEC wants the collation of these reports and outcomes to be shared with public (Irev) in real time. This part of their process failed. Does this mean the ink-stamped ballots are no longer valid?

Validity & integrity of the data should not be faulted because INEC missed SLA.
Your points are well understood.

I think you attempt to divert the point that upload to IREV is part of the electoral guideline and you termed it SLA. It's a guideline not SLA. A SLA is a signed document between two or more parties. There was no SLA. In fact that would have been more terrible for INEC.

The aim of the PDP and LP is to show that the election was rigged in favour of APC. That after ballot counting at the PU, when they got to the ward centres the scores for LP were changed to favour APC. The argument is that this could not have happened if the IREV worked realtime, as everyone would have the original results on the website. Those mutilated results are the blurred results on IREV. Meaning that the IREV was there to ensure TRANSPARENCY not just public view. Someone was hiding something.

PDP and LP have obtained the CTCs of the EC8As from INEC. They revealed gross mutilations.

One may ask, what about the results issued to the agents? Will you be surprised of each of the agents bring their own versions of results mutilation? According to the SC judgement of Osun, the physical forms EC8As issued by INEC are the primary source evidence while the IREV report is the secondary, note that IREV report is BVAS report which has already been deleted by INEC in the guise of preparing for Governorship elections. INEC refused access to the BVAS and even deleted that of FCT that had no governorship election.

My question now is what should happen to the form EC8As that were mutilated? Should the court admit them like that without question?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 2:49am On Jul 05, 2023
TrebleChamp:
Another ban loading 😂😂😂
I thought as much. Nihilist just go report an alternative account. But I hope Mukina2 go understand. 😁😁😁
PoliticsRe: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 2:39am On Jul 05, 2023
garfield1:
You are quoting from a mere guideline which is inferior.the electoral act has given inec the power to transmit anyhow.the supreme court has made server evidence secondary.thats that.apply commonsense and stop this nonsense
You have admitted that the INEC guidelines were not followed.

Does the electoral act empower INEC to develop a collation system? Yes.

INEC's failure to follow its own guidelines is a violation of the electoral act itself.

A school says you must obey your teacher.
Teacher gives instructions. A student then says I will disobey my teacher, it does not mean I disobey the school. The teacher is inferior to the school. Makes no sense.

Electoral act says INEC has the power to create her own guidelines which must be obeyed. The guidelines were not obeyed as you agree, but you turn back to say it is inferior to the electoral act. I can't even make sense out of it.
PoliticsRe: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 2:31am On Jul 05, 2023
ImperialYoruba:
Irev result showed to him are blurry. Result used to declare winner is EC8 and BVAS, not irev.

Infact, you can take irev offline and integrity of result of the election is still intact.

The only way you can change the integrity is to manipulate EC8 and BVAS.

Petition should have focused on the integrity of the BVAS and EC8, not on irev.
The purpose of IREV is the ensure the transparency of the process according to the INEC guideline. See the pix below.

If IREV is not available then the process is not transparent and therefore cannot stand.

PoliticsRe: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 2:27am On Jul 05, 2023
garfield1:
Read the full sttaement of justice agim about third hand evidence
If you don't have a point just keep silent than dragging me up and down meaninglessly
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Tenders Chicago State University Academic Records At The Tribunal by Spy360(m): 2:25am On Jul 05, 2023
DOptical:
Use brain na.

Both has the same content on them.

One recently issued from the school. The other is an old one issued from the school years ago. Both has same content on it.
My brother you have not been following. It's simple. The fake one was obtained from a website notorious for fake certificates. Read up and be informed.
PoliticsRe: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 7:46pm On Jul 04, 2023
garfield1:
Yes to an extent.it is useful in the absence of manual results
Both sentences contradict each other. If you say yes, then the second sentence is inconsequential.

If I take yes, then the new electoral act was violated. Based on the screenshot below.

If I go with the second sentence, then it means that a blurred IREV results nullifies the hardcopy.

PoliticsRe: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 7:40pm On Jul 04, 2023
garfield1:
Read osun judgment again by justice agim.it is oyetola vs adeleke supra 2023 per jsc agim.
Why don't you tell me what it says?

What I see there is that BVAS is the primary source of election data.
PoliticsRe: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 7:14pm On Jul 04, 2023
garfield1:
The camera of the bvas could be faulty,bad handling by inec staff,bad weather,bad flashlight.when photocopying documents,don't some copies come out blurry? Does that mean forgery? Forgery is when something is mutilated or erased.why has obi not displayed mutilated documents
Then we can say that IREV is useless and meaningless and a waste of resources and energy. And all the brouhaha by INEC about uploading realtime was a farce? Yes? No?
PoliticsRe: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 7:12pm On Jul 04, 2023
garfield1:
The supreme court interpreted it in osun
Give me an interpretation whether Osun or what you are seeing.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Tenders Chicago State University Academic Records At The Tribunal by Spy360(m): 7:08pm On Jul 04, 2023
garfield1:
Oga,that is not what is being argued.yiu guys always misunderstand issues.atiku is saying his name in his degree is different from his other documents and that his transcripts belong to a female and his nysc was forged.he never said his bsc was fake.
Hmmm

The pictures I posted are they the same?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 7:06pm On Jul 04, 2023
nihilistjnr:
Ogbeni we know how you move, own it.



When you thought Chicago State University disowned Tinubu's certificate, the supposed word of the uni was good enough



But when someone presents a result slip with somebody else's name literally encoded in it, you're calling for an independent review of JAMB Systems before the girl can be called guilty? grin

If you just own your tribalism, you would look less foolish...not a lot less foolish, but less foolish all the same.
IRRELEVANT
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 7:03pm On Jul 04, 2023
OasisX:
grin

.....if you like keep wailing forever, wetin concern me?!
Diversion due to lack of evidence. Na una way.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Tenders Chicago State University Academic Records At The Tribunal by Spy360(m): 6:06pm On Jul 04, 2023
We want to see the pictures of the documents to know if they are the same with what he gave INEC. Oya Garfield1, Seunmsg, Seunowa get to work.

For reference, the pictures below are what is being argued in the tribunal.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 6:02pm On Jul 04, 2023
OasisX:
grin

.... you're aware of it but you would rather stick to craps Hundeyin is feeding you folks? LOL!

Democracy is in danger, Judiciary is compromised would be anthem soon on this board.
Show me pictures of the documents and I will be silent forever. I'll be online till midnight.
PoliticsRe: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 5:56pm On Jul 04, 2023
seunmsg:
They are blurry only on IREV. The real form EC8A results for the 18k units are not blurry. They are very clear and they were used in collating the results. Results were not collated on IREV.
Why should IREV be blurry and the source clear?
PoliticsRe: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 5:53pm On Jul 04, 2023
seunmsg:
For people like you to view from home.
Ok. Kindly interpret the statement on the pix below.

Cc Garfield1
Seunowa

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:49pm On Jul 04, 2023
OasisX:
The academic records from the Chicago State University, 12 documents in all, were certified on June 28, 2023 by Jamar C. Orr, the Associate General Counsel, Office of the Legal Affairs, Chicago State University.

https://community.thenationonlineng.net/forum/breaking-tinubu-tenders-academic-records-from-chicago-state-unive?xg_source=twitter

Its damn hard to be associated with that movement and still have your brain functioning well as a sensible human.
I am aware of the documents tendered. I hope they are the same as the ones he submitted to INEC. That's the Koko.

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