₦airaland Forum

ozo13:
Did you mean to type 100,000 copies of agent result because
10,000 copies of agent result out of 170,000 polling is even less than 10% and you know no court can use such to declare Obi the winner unless we just want to leave on false hope.probably Obi is banking on disqualification of Atiku and Tinubu to be able to winner

The 10000 are part of the disputed results INEC issued that are blurred.

LegendHero:
You will have to ask the people that amended the electoral law as to why they did not make IREv mandatory. Your vituperation is noted but it is not the law. When it becomes law that IREv is mandatory, they no born INEC well not to comply.

Why should I drink otapiapia when Tinubu is already the president? You don’t even know how to diss people.

Peter Obi won’t be president of Nigeria, stop living in delusion. He came third just like his ancestors that tried like Azikiwe, Ojuku of cursed memory. They all came third just like Obi.

The only place he can collect any mandate is in hell fire because of how he singlehandedly massacred hundreds of Awkusu youth and sacrificed them to Skuku Abiamo.

I smell fear

👁️👃👁️

It was INEC that made IREV mandatory. It's there in their guidelines. Go and check it and stop deceiving yourself.

garfield1:
Obi can't rule nigeria.he knows nothing beyond se and ss.tinubu knows nigeria well like obj.even atiku self.
How much stain has apc blown on Atiku? Apc doesn't believe in maligning personalities.we believe on focusing more on the issues and winning elections.continue laughing over bala blue while we mobilize voters boy.dumbidients

Are you campaigning? It's too late. We already know that Tinubu is a drug lord.

garfield1:
Pandora's failure to bring inec top copies or compare irev with agents copies sealed his fate.anyway,it was always a failure

Oga he did all those things you have mentioned. I know that you know.

He brought the INEC top copies issued to him by INEC though 8000 were unreadable.

He also brought IREV also issued by INEC and 18000 were blurred.

There is another 35,000 they requested but not issued by INEC, they said they don't exist. 🤡

From verified IREV issued by INEC Peter Obi won Rivers and Benue states confirmed by INEC already.

Ask me why Atiku is hell bent on disqualifying Tinubu. That's because if Tinubu is not disqualified and there likely be a rerun, it will be between Tinubu and Obi. So Atiku has gone to US and filed a suit to expose Tinubu more.

I am 100% sure Tinubu will be disqualified. 💯

garfield1:
Tinubu is a better leader than obi.under obi,we had awkuzu massacre.the only projects obi had was the teaching hospital.ngige roads outlasted obi own.obi surrounded himself with agulu Catholics,deported northerners.he invested anambra money in his brewery,his convoy was caught with millions of dollars.hes a criminal,worst than tinubu.obi can't handle Nigeria,he's a tribalist

You should have told Wole Olanipekun all these and not waste it here on NL.

Peter Obi is as clean as Klin. If there was any stain, trust the APC propaganda machinery and EU Certified Fake News merchants like Keyamo and FFK to blow it open. But they have verified and saw nothing. 😂😂😂

But I wonder why you villify Obi for all this and yet support a known criminal like BAT? What's wrong with you brother? 🤷🏽‍♂️

LegendHero:
IREv is not important, that is why the law did not make it mandatory. Since 1999, we have been conducting elections without IREv and we have been returning presidents. When people dispute result, what solve it is that result sheet that INEC official provides which the party agents have copies. That is the best evidence you can use.

We have cases where some inec officials uploaded their own personal pictures on the IREv, if that is the most important item, do you mean the result for that polling unit should be cancelled?



No Nigeria or INEC law states that if IREv is down, then result should be cancelled. Stop manufacturing law based on your own thinking.

Server can be jammed. Network can be down in some areas, so why should election be cancelled because an agent did not upload it online when the actual result sheet was signed by all agent and they have hard copies?


3. If the 10000 agent copies cannot determine who won, let INEC bring the true copies. How is that hard?

We want to know who truly win the election. Then Tinubu should be disqualified for narcotic crimes, perjury, forged certificates, invalid nomination and election malpractices.

@the bolded, why did Peter Obi not bring his own agent result for all the states he think he won that INEC gave to Tinubu? That’s because there is none. Peter obi is just a lunatic who lost election which he knows and he’s purposely taking Obidients for a ride.

So if Tinubu stole Peter Obi manhood, then how did Atiku became second? Did he stole Obi manhood too?

You can see Obi is a failure and a classless liar. He can only impress ignorant mobs about winning national election. Who dash monkey banana?

You are repeating the same foolish questions.

If IREV was not important then why was it introduced? Why was the INEC chariman singing it like a song before the elections? Why is APC afraid of IREV?

As for whether Peter Obi won or not, leave it for the tribunal. Don't go and drink otapiapia because Peter Obi won this election and Tinubu the narcotics trafficking criminal will be disqualified and Nigeria will be great again.

garfield1:
What will obi do differently that he didn't do in anambra? Is anambra a paradise? Same obi that never conducted lga polls?

Once again that's not the issue. But let's compare

Tinubu built Lagos but lost woefully to Peter Obi in Lagos.

Peter Obi didn't do anything in Anambra but won there by a whooping 97%.

Tinubu is a failure even in Lagos. So did do anything in Lagos.

😂😂😂

Children of the Corn 🌽 don't reason well

😂😂😂

LegendHero:
You don’t even know what you’re talking about. It was LP that tendered the blank result sheet and it wasn’t INEC that issued it to them.

I like your bolded stance. Peter Obi has at least agents in over 75% of the over 176,000 polling units we have in Nigeria. If his lawyers can get 10,000 unreadable result sheet on their own, why can’t they show the result sheets in area Tinubu won that they think LP should have won? Don’t they have agents in those areas?

Why do they rather showed those blank result sheet that are just 10000/1760000 to prove their point? Are they trying to deceive people?

Lol

Are you a dunce? Did they manufacture the blurred documents?

My brother, those documents were issued and certified as true copies by INEC under subpeona. You have not been following. They submitted what INEC issued to them.

Garfield1 would be ashamed of you for saying this because he knows it's ignorant. 😂

garfield1:
Only the most deluded of persons believe in a hypocritical thief like obi.tge earlier you forget this case,the better.the court as it stands are pro tinubu

This matter is neither about Peter Obi not Tinubu. It's about you and me.

Between you and me, you are the deluded one with the Stockholm Syndrome that lives his oppressors.

I assure you, under a sane government you can do better than the N1500 weekly pay they give you to post rubbish online to deceive people.

LegendHero:
Even if a glitch affect the whole country, it will be the most stupidesttt thing to do to cancel election because of that.

IREv is just a result viewing portal. Infact, an agent in a polling booth can upload naked picture of him on that portal. That is how it is.

It’s just like because you cannot view your WAEC result on the online portal, then your WAEC result is automatically cancelled and the certificate you had with you is useless. Does that make sense?

I don’t know why you guys don’t think critically. You went to school for a reason, have a thinking of your own and stop following the bandwagon.

@the bolded, how many polling booth do Nigeria have in the last election? We have almost #176,000 polling units. So if Obi submit just 10000 and start claiming he won without establishing any pattern that could be used as inference, then my friend, you need to question your own education.

You are just being simple in reasoning. And ignorant too.

1. There is the Elections Results Online Archive. That is a viewing portal. The IREV is not just a viewing portal, it is the portal for the BVAS. It is meant for results verification. It is the second most important source of INEC data after the physical copies. It is used to verify results in the case of disputes. Now that everyone is disputing results, IREV is meant to solve it. But IREV up till now has not been fully loaded and also contains 18000 blurred useless documents. So how can Tinubu prove he won the election without manipulation?

2. If a glitch affected the whole country according to law should warrant a cancellation. Stop being sentimental.

3. If the 10000 agent copies cannot determine who won, let INEC bring the true copies. How is that hard?

We want to know who truly win the election. Then Tinubu should be disqualified for narcotic crimes, perjury, forged certificates, invalid nomination and election malpractices.

LegendHero:
Why should they cancel the election?

Because you cannot view your WAEC result on the examination portal due to glitch, then they should cancel your exam and order you to do it again even if you had the certificate with you.

That’s how you sound.

Stop pushing false illustrations. If you couldn't view your result on the portal and you ask WAEC for the hardcopy and they issue you blurred unreadable document. Will you accept it? INEC issued 8000 unreadable CTCs to LP. That's criminal.

Let me see whether you will run away from this question or you will be bold enough to speak the truth.

garfield1:
I'd there justice in Nigeria? Are you a Nigerian? Even if tinubu was guilty,he will still win.

Tinubu is better than obi.the core north will always vote tinubu against obi

The bolded show that you are a deluded fellow.

The constitution is bigger than any individual no matter who. If you condone criminality, I don't. I also believe that majority of Nigerians will not also condone criminality.

If Tinubu is guilty he will not win and he did not win.

Burob:
The Government today, & the one in 2031? If so, then stop wailing, unless you are a confused Almijiri?

You waste of semen, you are suffering yet you are smiling. 🤡🤡🤡

This government till it comes to its brief end, will favour me and my family.

garfield1:
If this does not happen,what will be the consequences? Are you ok at all

If Tinubu is not disqualified then there is no justice in Nigeria. By the next election people will die on top election rigging and violence. Criminals will take over government and there will be anarchy and chaos.

It's not possible not to disqualify Tinubu.

And I am very normal.

Are you normal yourself? You that want a drug criminal who has no proven academic records or even history to be your president? ARE YOU A NORMAL HUMAN BEING or a BOTS

LegendHero:
Speech from INEC president is not the law. He can say they’ll transmit this way and on Election Day, if the server is down or with some glitches, they can default back to other mode. That is why the law give them power.

Look at it critically, if on Election Day in Abia for example, something happened and the network was jammed and the election officials were not able to transmit result on IREV. Do you mean to say INEC should automatically disqualify all Abia state voters ?

So if in Borno, all electoral officers were able to transmit result sheet to IREv on Election Day, then we automatically record Borno vote but invalidate Abia votes because of some issues with server? Does that make sense?

If Peter Obi legal team cannot proof their case of winning with the actual result sheet signed by their agents on Election Day, then they are just liars who lost elections and just playing on Obidients intelligence.

The law says substantial compliance. A glitch that affected the entire country calls for a cancellation.

Besides there was no glitch.

And by the way, Obi submitted 10000 copies of agent results showing that he won. It's left for the tribunal to decide.

Burob:
Cry on Wailer, if you no like, go conduct your own election.

You na suffering and smiling.

This government no matter how brief it lasts will surely favour me and my family till the next one. Amen.

You can go and hug a transformer.

LegendHero:
Speech from INEC president is not the law. He can say they’ll transmit this way and on Election Day, if the server is down or with some glitches, they can default back to other mode. That is why the law give them power.

It's not about any speech, it's about what is in their guidelines. When the server was down, the sensible thing to do is to cancel the election and order a repeat.

Besides there was no glitch. It's all cooked up by the criminal INEC chairman. Till today they have not told us what was the glitch and what caused it.

garfield1:
The two modes of transmission is manual and electronic.inec can use any as it liked

INEC chose to use both. One as a verification for the other to avoid election manipulation. But the criminal INEC chairman switched off the server of the presidential to allow Tinubu to rewrite results. The planned heist was a failure and they have been exposed. Both criminals will rot in jail.

I recall why APC was rushing to court to prevent INEC from choosing electronic transmission. APC is a criminal party.

garfield1:
Dem never ban you? That question is left for obi to answer and he failed to.the case is dead

Stop fidgeting. If I ask you which question you will start crying and calling mods. 😂😂😂

Peter has brought all the tools needed by the tribunal to make a decision.

Peter simply said the elections was flawed due to INEC criminally issuing blurred CTCs of results. INEC has absolutely nothing to verify how they announced the winner.

The Tribunal has a decision to make, either to declare a rerun or simply depend on the 10000 agent copies given to them by LP to determine the winner.

In either case Tinubu will be disqualified. He is a criminal and his nomination is invalid.

Duru009:
The constitution stated that the PRESIDENT "Must have 25% in all the states AND FCT...

This is a very simple English, it states that "and FCT"....

It means having 25% in the FCT Abuja is compulsory.....

Imagine if the constitution read...

The president should receive at least 25% of all revenue in each of two thirds of the states and the FCT.

Their interpretation will change.

😂😂😂

seunmsg:
25% in FCT is not a requirement to be elected president. The Constitution is very clear as to how a winner should emerge. There are only two requirements to be elected president when the candidates are more than two.
1. Win majority of lawful votes.
2. Get at least 25% in 2/3 of all the states and FCT.

Attached is a screenshot of the Constitution. There is no where in the constitution where it was stated that getting 25% in FCT is a requirement.

The tribunal has reserved judgement on the matter already. We should stop all the noise and allow them rule on the matter.

So Wole Olanipekun who has accepted that 25% in FCT is a must is also a dullard too?

Keep mumuing yourself until reality hits you like a big stone okwute.

True justice means that whatever judgement is given, Tinubu MUST be disqualified, sacked and disgraced. (He is already an international disgrace to Nigeria). Nothing will happen.

TheGoodJoe:
INEC has the right to determine the way it wants to transmit result, and chose to use IREV for verification through the BVAS. After that, INEC put it in its manual that it has chosen to use IREV to verify results. Travelled to London and that using the BVAS/IREV is chosen.

So, no one is arguing that INEC does not have the right to choose how to transmit its result. We are pointing out that INEC chose a process and decided to change it during the election, which marred the process.

Simple Engli9sh.

Excellent 👍🏽

The constitution gave INEC power to choose mode of transmission. The question is what mode did INEC choose?

When we compare all the elections held so far, from Osun to Presidential/NASS to governorship/HOA what mode was adopted?

We discover that BVAS/IREV was used for verification for all except for the presidential election. That's the crux of the matter. Why did IREV fail during the presidential when INEC chose it for transmission?

IconicR:
He's the best for the job, you all are being deceived by that fake messiah

Your baby won't smile at you then. No baby born under this BAT administration of suffering and hopelessness will smile at its father. In fact it may curse you.

Twistaray:
Just In: Court Gives Verdict on INEC’s Electronic Transmission of Results Read more:




https://www.legit.ng/politics/1548018-just-court-verdict-inecs-electronic-transmission-results/?fbclid=IwAR0pql009FuMXz1Uwy-4xb_gkMWHwcUN8oAMgFZoU7On2QhwmjvyQWp9nl8

The Appeal Court nullified the judgement of the FHC in determining how INEC should transmit election results. This is not in violation of the Electoral Act which gives INEC power to prescribe how results should be collated.

The FHC judgement did not specify if it is for the 2023 elections or for future elections, hence the nullification. As for what transpired in the 2023 elections, the Appeal Court has reserved judgement for the Elections Tribunal.

IconicR:
Awwn lovely, I can't wait to start having my own babies

By supporting BAT?

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Dude is saying that South East lawmakers played bad politics hence they where getting narrow gauge instead of standard line that was proposed to other zones.

They were also responsible for FG not getting funds for the project.


It's now an abandoned project.... they're also responsible

You both are having a very direct and intelligent argument.

I stand with you that Buhari government was not interested in developing rail system in the SE and used the agitation of the legislature as a flimsy excuse.

However, when the issue of regional development is brought up, without absolving the presidency of its responsibility, we must begin from home to hold those we elected to represent us accountable.

That's the way I see things. If a dept is not doing their job, I hold the HOD first before the CEO.

If the citizens make life unbearable for the relations in power, when they go to Abuja NASS they won't sleep when national issues are being discussed. In fact they will fight. I value them more when they fight physically for what they demand.

If Abaribe and co, start a fight in the senate and it's because of the lack of a rail system in the SE, the presidency will act by force.

raumdeuter:
Not just easterners every Nigerian should hold the closest leaders accountable for lack of development

Many times our senators governors get a pass while we face Abuja all the time

The subservient attitude of our local and regional leaders allow for the so called marginalisation that is complained about. They should be held more accountable than the centre. That's how things will change.

larride:
You are saying rubbish. In 2017 when the Eastern Corridor rail was suppose to start, theres nothing like Kano to Maradi rail line. Kano to Maradi hasn't even started, MOU was just signed this January. The Kano to Maradi line will start from where the Ibadan to Kano route will stop from.

If the minister which was Amaechi didnt answer, how did they know the content of the document to start raising the issue of sovereignty or not?

It is the PH to Maiduguri line that is narrow gauge, not the proposed Lagos to Calabar railline that is STANDARD GUAGE. If you dont have any knowledge about anything, a simple google search should save you the embarrassment.

Keep making excuses for your leaders who have decided to play politics with your region so they can continue to use it to win elections. Lagos to Ibadan was proposed and funded without SW stalling the project, Ibadan to Kano has started, both the SW and the region it will pass through to get to Kano didnt stall the project also, by God's grace it will be completed soon. It is when it gets to the Lagos to Calabar line that your legislators start attacking the project so they can have something to blame Buhari for.

Dont hold your leaders accountable, continue to make excuses for them. Na you sabi.

Whether you are right or wrong about the facts, at the end it boils down to the bolded.

No excuses. The earlier easterners start holding their leaders accountable for lack of development the better the region will become. No excuses.

Jodera:
... Except Bravo tho who went to Man city.

But you're making my point. No good keeper would want to stay as second choice when he can easily get first choice as a number 1 in another club.

If Raya replaces Ramsdale this season (for example), I doubt Ramsdale (with the pedigree he has acquired in EPL) would want to sit and compete, instead he'll look for another club where he'll be guaranteed number 1 spot even if it's a lower club.


GKs competing for one spot is a whole lot different from Outfield players competing for one spot

We now have a very good squad that is expected go far in every competition. There will be over 50games to play. One keeper can focus on cups while the other on PL. Then when injury or red card happens, or when any of them starts to misbehave like Ramsdale last season, no problems.

Jodera:


But having Two great Keepers sha (in Raya and Ramsdale), I no know how e wan take work.

It couldn't work with Ter Stegen/Bravo for Barca
It couldn't work for Leno/Martinez for Arsenal.

I'm still looking for clubs that have two great Keepers and It worked for them in keeping both happy.

It'll be interesting to see how Arteta manages them

Na when injury happen you go know. Two is always better than one.

mostob:
Bro...so you think Arteta would plan for Timber to invert against City?! A new team? A new system? No bro. Havertz didn't drop deep, he was played as a 9 to provide an aerial outlet for our direct buildup.

All wrong.

First of all, Arteta always loves a back three. He loves the back three of Gabriel, Saliba and White.
Secondly, If Arteta did not plan for Timber to invert then he would not have started him on LB and White would not have played RB. Tierney would have been a better option at LB and Timber on RB. In the second half he brought in Tierney and Trossard to match the City formation in an all attacking formation.

As for Havertz, yes the plan was for him to play as a false 9. But when Man City appeared in the shape 4-4-2, everything changed. The presence of Alvarez and Haaland both pressing Gabriel and Saliba plus Walker and Akanji playing high up the pitch did not allow for the invertion. Timber could no longer invert as he wanted and Havertz had to drop to join Odegaard so that both of them can press at the same time.

It's a testimony of how far the team has developed so as to adjust shape during the game without it affecting their quality. When the game started, Man City easily dominated because Timber wanted to invert and Rice wanted to move up to join Odegaard in the press. But when they saw they were losing possession, the shape shifted and Rice dropped to join Partey to form a double pivot to stop Rodri and Kovacic, while Havertz dropped to assist Odegaard in the press to block their two CBs.
From...
.............................. Havertz.............................
Martinelli.... Rice............... Odegaard... Saka
............... Timber.............. Partey.....................
Gabriel.................. Saliba..................... White

To...

Martinelli... Havertz.... Odegaard.... Saka
.............. Rice......................... Partey............
Timber....... Gabriel....... Saliba........ White

Bombblacks:
If ECOWAS interfer and seize back the nation it will send a perfect message. What has happened in Mali and Guinea since the Col. Assimi Goita and Col. Mamady Doumbouya took over in those countries respectively? Absolutely nothing, no progress whatsoever. The one in Burkina Faso just goes around in military gears surrounded by armed guards, posing like a superman while doing nothing as well. Bunch of empty heads, Coupists don't have any economic roadmap to follow just like the visionless politicians they removed.

A divided ECOWAS cannot and should not remove a government whether legitimate or not. Just as UN Security Council decision can be vetoed by any of them, the region will be plunged into unending war if there is no unilateral decision on this matter.