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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 11:07am On May 15, 2023
afrodoc2:
Name. Title would be Lord or Idolo.
You are wrong. His name is Christiano Ronaldo. Any other appellation will be a title.

And yes, Lord is a title. Jehova/Yahweh means lord. Chi means god and Chukwu means great god. All titles.

I need a Muslim to tell us what Allah means literally.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 11:04am On May 15, 2023
A001:
There are many facts in my posts. But no historical account is 100% accurate.
So why are you insisting that you are correct and that every other person is wrong when you aren't certain of what you are saying. You should give room for other logical explanations.

Anyways, next question.

2. If Amadioha is the name of an ancient person, when you see lightening or hear thunder, do you think of it as a person or something being controlled by a person? Just as you have explained it as being a historical fact taught by Otem. (You can use any of the gods you mentioned like Chukwu, Ogun or Sango)
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 10:52am On May 15, 2023
afrodoc2:
We are already seeing it. People calling CR7, Lord Ororo and idolo. In a thousand years Ororo idol worship might be the number 1 religion and fittingly enough anointing oil will be a key item of worship.
So will Ororo be a name or title?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 10:51am On May 15, 2023
A001:
Yes, they're.
It sounds logical but not really true.

There are entities which people refer to as demons or principalities. These are the ancient earthlings who ruled the world in the preadamic past. They are worshipped by paganist as gods and they still have influence today. Satan is one of them.

Their names are not known because they don't have one. Modern humans then ascribbed titles to them depending on how they relate.

These entities are not the same as natural phenomena that others still worship because they consider them as wonders. That's why I gave you specific examples like lightening/thunder, earth/soil, oceans, mountains etc. It's like eclipses, these are all natural phenomena. These have specific names that are not derived from any ancient person.

So you have a little idea about the ancient agencies (referred to as demons by people) who lived in preadamic or pre-homo sapiens period. Like you mentioned, they were powerful/giants and advanced. But don't mix them up with thunder. Amadioha means thunder, it's not a name.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 10:34am On May 15, 2023
A001:
That's why I said you're the typical African that knows next to nothing about the local cultures and can't think critically.

Africans have specific names for their gods. Those are names, not titles.

So because I'm learning about my culture, that makes me a pagan even though I don't worship any god or deity. Typical African.

And where did I tell you Ogun means iron in the posts you quoted? I said Ogun is referred to as god of iron.

That's the popular belief about him. Before Ogun discovered how to make iron by melting rocks with intense fire, people in his time didn't know what an iron is, and they cultivated the soil using tools made of wood.

After his discovery of iron and making different tools with it, Ogun became a synonym for iron.

As for Amadioha, Sango is a similar deity like him. I learned Sango's history from various sources including Otem and Isese practitioners.

There are many similarities in the accounts given by these sources, but there are too many exaggerations in the legends of Sango narrated by adherents of Yoruba traditional religion.

The same applies to Amadioha as well.

In the historical account of Sango that Otem gave, Sango spat fire from his mouth using a purely physical process.

However, such a feat seemed supernatural to those in his own time, who deified him as a god because those people had lower levels of intelligence and abilities.

Then, based on my research reading different books of history and interacting with Isese practitioner, Sango had existed in different human eras.

He first existed as a rephaim (a giant similar to a nephilim like the black man used to invent the Jesus Christ character by Romans) in the pre-homo erectus era. That Sango is the one Isese practitioners worship as a deity, god of thunder/lightning like Amadioha.

The rephaim Sango had great power of magia. While these are usually illusions, some are based on science and will be achieved by modern scientists in future.

For instance, he could artificially create thunderstorm/lightning using things of nature, just like today modern humans artifically create rain via the process of cloud seeding.

All these are physical processes, nothing spiritual or supernatural. But less limited people would call them juju or magia.

Today, scientists can artificial create a sun via nuclear fusion, generate rain via cloud seeding, create thunderstorms on a small scale via a Van de Graaff generator.

Yet, all these technologies aren't really new. Like I said above, science and technology didn't start with us, homo sapiens — modern humans.

The extinct races such as nephilims, rephaims, homo erectuses were even more technologically advanced than us.

Religious people would read the Bible and Qur'an and marvel at the technologies mentioned there, without realizing that science and technology didn't start with us.

The past beings were mightier and much more technologically advanced.

Our sciences, which are less than 600 years old, are still elementary. In the future, scientists will be able to travel at the speed of light, work with consciousness (soul), create humans as those entities religious people worship as God did in the past eras, colonize planets, and other feats that seem magical.

Sango and Amadioha achieved some of these feats in the past (extinct) world and were deified.

In the homo sapiens era, another Sango existed who ruled over the old Oyo Empire. He was the fourth Alafin of Oyo, following Oranmiyan, one of the sons of Oduduwa.

These past beings, including Eshu, founded many towns and cities in Yorubaland. Thus, you'll come across many places in Yorubaland whose names are the names of these deities or have names like Sango, Eshu as their root.

The same applies to Iboland.

The Alafin Sango was a reincarnate of the rephaim Sango.

Many famous people today making waves in science and technology, sports, acting, politics, and other human endeavors had existed in the past.

Such is the cycles of life.
I will ask you three simple questions but as you answer them.

1. Do you accept what you have written as facts?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 10:07am On May 15, 2023
Nostradamus1:
Chukwu is same as Chi-ukwu. It translates to The Great/Big God. He never existed on earth in any Igbo Myth and Folklore. He is an essence believed to have created Amadioha and other beings. He is unknown and simply unimaginable. Amadioha, Ani, and Ojukwu suit your statement better
Exactly except the bolded which are natural phenomena. Those are titles ascribed to the powers that they are or that control them.

A001 says they are names of ancient talented people just as we have Messi today. grin
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by Spy360(m): 10:01am On May 15, 2023
tivta:
Seriously it's very annoying hearing about forever this and that, this is a Free To Air thread meaning it should be free, besides one can always watch most foreign channels on their android phone, the extra steps of subscription and data to view certain channels doesn't make sense.
You are correct. I use android box for premium content and use FTA to while away time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:38am On May 15, 2023
Fkhalifa:
They are good, they beat Brighton2-4 earlier this season...
The thing is Arterta and the club didn't plan well for the tail end of the season...
Most of thses players are Jaded...Saka has played almost all games...Martineli's Injury is imminent..No proper replacement or strong personality on the bench..
It's all about the first 11 and InshaAllah...
But not as good as we thought. The rest of your post further explains my point.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m):
Jodera:
A city side can be dismantled even in their bad day. No team wey no dey crumble once in a while, na make e no extend or repeat itself be the Koko. Leicester once walloped City 5-2 at Etihad, that doesn't make City a bad team.

You'd use this match to conclude about arsenal's team this season while ignoring the other beautiful matches we played even at Emirates? Wahalaeux!! grin
When I say they are not good, I mean as good as we thought. We had believed they would even beat City. But the game against Brighton showed that apart from the first team which were strong simply because of their tactical approach, the team as in the entire team including the bench aren't that good as envisaged.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 9:28am On May 15, 2023
A001:
Lols, your knowledge of the subject is very limited.

You don't even know anything about the local deities in your culture, like the typical African that doesn't know his left from right.

I see you don't know anything about the origin of those natural phenomena associated with each of the deities.

Each of the deities represents certain aspects of nature they'd power over. In Yorubaland, the aspect of nature god Ogun has power over is iron. So, he's known as god of iron.

Ogun was the first blacksmith in Yorubaland that molded iron from rocks into different shapes (tools). According to the legends about him, he had power over iron.

In the ancient past, he invented swords, hoes, cutlasses, and other tools made of iron. Ogun made the profession of the farmers (called agbe in Yoruba) and hunters (known as ode in Yoruba) possible.

In other words, he pioneered what's called agbede (agbe + ode) in Yoruba meaning welding or blacksmith. This and many other heroic feats are the reasons why he has been worshipped for thousands of years after his death.

Ifa, another deity, had power over divination/prophecy, words of wisdom, and proverbs. Osanyin had power over herbs.

All these are deities worshipped in Yorubaland by Isese practitioners, but really, they're early Yoruba people that were great in the past.

These people invented herbs, many Yoruba words and proverbs, founded towns, ruled over places, and other great achievements in the past world.

Just like those Yoruba deities, Amadioha from the Ibo culture, also had power over an aspect of nature called thunder/lightning, according to the legends, like Sango, a similar deity in Yorubaland.

In modern times, a self-deified person like Otem has power over history, which is his own aspect of nature (his gift).

Also, Messi is considered by many as a god. He has power over football (his gift). There are other gifted people today that demonstrate such great talent that when compared with their less talented peers, they're gods or goddesses.

If gifted people like Messi and Ronaldo had existed in the era of Ifa or Afa, Ala, Amadioha, Orunmila, and co, you'd probably be worshipping them today as God and arguing with people that took the time to research their history that they're not early beings or humans.

So, your knowledge about the local deities in your culture is next to nothing.

When I said Amadioha, Ala, and co had existed in the past, it's real history. They are great Africans that had achieved heroic and memorable feats in the past and were deified because of these feats.

During their era, the brains of people then weren't well developed, so they saw the extraordinary abilities of gifted people as supernatural powers.

Those abilities include swimming, juggling of stones, welding, great dancing skills, healing abilities, killing of two-headed snakes, and many things we take for granted today because our brains have evolved over the years.

So, those gifted people were deified as a god or goddess (as spirits), and some of them designed a religion or cult because of that, while for other such gifted people, it was clever humans that built a religion or cult around the gifted people to exploit humans of lesser intelligence, just like clerics exploit Muslims and Christians today.

Thus, the histories people commonly narrate about these deities are exaggerated. That's why some erroneously consider them as myths.

It was Otem that made me develop interest in African history and history generally. Now, one of my hobbies is collecting books of history, especially books of African history.

I first read the history of Yoruba deities such as Ifa or Afa (in Ibo), Orunmila, Ogun, Osanyin, and co from his book.

After finishing his book in 2018 and studying the language he came with, I started making findings about the histories of the local deities from adherents of Yoruba traditional religion (Isese) online and in my immediate environs.

I traveled to Osun, did some findings, learned the history of Obatala, Orunmila, Osanyin, Ifa, Ogun, Oya, Osun, and others from Isese practitioners.

When I concluded the research, I realized due to Islam, I didn't know anything about these local deities and the native religions. I realized the depth of the histories in Otem's book.

That research made me conclude Otem isn't just manufacturing the things he writes about. With the depth of the historical accounts he gave, the etymology of many words he explained, and the language he came with, it became clear he actually got the writings from some ancient sources.

Actually, if you're knowledgeable about your local traditional religions, you'd understand most of things I'm saying here.

Next month, I'd be traveling to Osun again to continue my research. I plan to attend Odun Ifa Agbaye (an annual festival held to celebrate Ifa and other local deities) and Osun-Osogbo festival as well.

While I don't worship any deity or believe in juju, it's important to gain deep knowledge about these deities and know about the local culture.
You should change your bio to paganist and not agnostic.

Lightening is a natural phenomenon, no ancient person has power of any natural phenomenon.

If the man who became the first Yoruba blacksmith is Ogun, and Ogun means iron then who named him Ogun? His mother?

You are just confusing yourself with long write ups of nothingness. The focus of my response is the names of gods and not what they do. Let's take Messi for example, as the god of football. The god of football is a title and not a name. His name is Messi.

Amadioha is a god worshipped by Igbos. Amadioha means thunder. Meaning that Igbos worship the natural phenomenon called thunder. If he were an ancient being is immaterial to the discussion. The name ascribed to the god is what I am talking about and it is more or less a title.

I know about this because that is the god my forefathers worshipped as priest. You cannot tell me about Amadioha, unless (on a lighter note) you want me to send him to you grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 9:26am On May 15, 2023
A001:
Lols, your knowledge of the subject is very limited.

You don't even know anything about the local deities in your culture, like the typical African that doesn't know his left from right.

I see you don't know anything about the origin of those natural phenomena associated with each of the deities.

Each of the deities represents certain aspects of nature they'd power over. In Yorubaland, the aspect of nature god Ogun has power over is iron. So, he's known as god of iron.

Ogun was the first blacksmith in Yorubaland that molded iron from rocks into different shapes (tools). According to the legends about him, he had power over iron.

In the ancient past, he invented swords, hoes, cutlasses, and other tools made of iron. Ogun made the profession of the farmers (called agbe in Yoruba) and hunters (known as ode in Yoruba) possible.

In other words, he pioneered what's called agbede (agbe + ode) in Yoruba meaning welding or blacksmith. This and many other heroic feats are the reasons why he has been worshipped for thousands of years after his death.

Ifa, another deity, had power over divination/prophecy, words of wisdom, and proverbs. Osanyin had power over herbs.

All these are deities worshipped in Yorubaland by Isese practitioners, but really, they're early Yoruba people that were great in the past.

These people invented herbs, many Yoruba words and proverbs, founded towns, ruled over places, and other great achievements in the past world.

Just like those Yoruba deities, Amadioha from the Ibo culture, also had power over an aspect of nature called thunder/lightning, according to the legends, like Sango, a similar deity in Yorubaland.

In modern times, a self-deified person like Otem has power over history, which is his own aspect of nature (his gift).

Also, Messi is considered by many as a god. He has power over football (his gift). There are other gifted people today that demonstrate such great talent that when compared with their less talented peers, they're gods or goddesses.

If gifted people like Messi and Ronaldo had existed in the era of Ifa or Afa, Ala, Amadioha, Orunmila, and co, you'd probably be worshipping them today as God and arguing with people that took the time to research their history that they're not early beings or humans.

So, your knowledge about the local deities in your culture is next to nothing.

When I said Amadioha, Ala, and co had existed in the past, it's real history. They are great Africans that had achieved heroic and memorable feats in the past and were deified because of these feats.

During their era, the brains of people then weren't well developed, so they saw the extraordinary abilities of gifted people as supernatural powers.

Those abilities include swimming, juggling of stones, welding, great dancing skills, healing abilities, killing of two-headed snakes, and many things we take for granted today because our brains have evolved over the years.

So, those gifted people were deified as a god or goddess (as spirits), and some of them designed a religion or cult because of that, while for other such gifted people, it was clever humans that built a religion or cult around the gifted people to exploit humans of lesser intelligence, just like clerics exploit Muslims and Christians today.

Thus, the histories people commonly narrate about these deities are exaggerated. That's why some erroneously consider them as myths.

It was Otem that made me develop interest in African history and history generally. Now, one of my hobbies is collecting books of history, especially books of African history.

I first read the history of Yoruba deities such as Ifa or Afa (in Ibo), Orunmila, Ogun, Osanyin, and co from his book.

After finishing his book in 2018 and studying the language he came with, I started making findings about the histories of the local deities from adherents of Yoruba traditional religion (Isese) online and in my immediate environs.

I traveled to Osun, did some findings, learned the history of Obatala, Orunmila, Osanyin, Ifa, Ogun, Oya, Osun, and others from Isese practitioners.

When I concluded the research, I realized due to Islam, I didn't know anything about these local deities and the native religions. I realized the depth of the histories in Otem's book.

That research made me conclude Otem isn't just manufacturing the things he writes about. With the depth of the historical accounts he gave, the etymology of many words he explained, and the language he came with, it became clear he actually got the writings from some ancient sources.

Actually, if you're knowledgeable about your local traditional religions, you'd understand most of things I'm saying here.

Next month, I'd be traveling to Osun again to continue my research. I plan to attend Odun Ifa Agbaye (an annual festival held to celebrate Ifa and other local deities) and Osun-Osogbo festival as well.

While I don't worship any deity or believe in juju, it's important to gain deep knowledge about these deities and know about the local culture.
You should change your bio to paganist and not agnostic.

Lightening is a natural phenomenon, no ancient person has power of any natural phenomenon.

If the man who became the first Yoruba blacksmith is Ogun, and Ogun means iron then who named him Ogun? His mother?

You are just confusing yourself with long write ups of nothingness. The focus of my response is the names of gods and not what they do.

Amadioha is a god worshipped by Igbos. Amadioha means thunder. Meaning that Igbos worship the natural phenomenon called thunder. If he were an ancient being is immaterial to the discussion. The name ascribed to the god is what I am talking about and it is more or less a title.

I know about this because that is the god my forefathers worshipped as priest. You cannot tell me about Amadioha, unless (on a lighter note) you want me to send him to you grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:03pm On May 14, 2023
Roland17:
And I’d celebrate!
So if you were asked to analyse this season, will you start from the 2-2 draw against Liverpool or the or the loss to Man City?

We will finish with at least 81points. That's already among the top 5 in the top European leagues this season. Napoli won the serie A with 82points and games to spare. PSG in French league with Messi, Mbappe and Neymar don't have that much points.

We are just unfortunate to go head to head and toe to toe with a side like Man City. I cannot kill the boys for not winning the league. All I can ask for is improvements going into next season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:50pm On May 14, 2023
Roland17:
Nwanne abeg talk another joke abeg
Arteta will win the league next season. undecided
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:49pm On May 14, 2023
Shegzdave:
Not everyone is cool with mediocrity, the painful thing is we are always in control of how our season will eventually end but we always end up bottling it, so I understand your anger but saving we overachieved this season is crap.

Nevertheless, I’m impressed with the boys this season even though it didn’t go as envisaged, Arteta should just improve in his squad management and in-game management.
The bolded....
Lol. grin grin grin grin

That's exactly what I said and Roland thinks we are mediocres.

Welcome to the club. grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:42pm On May 14, 2023
Fkhalifa:
This Arsenal team overated? shocked
Their performance today showed they aren't as good as we thought. They were clearly beaten today in their home ground. I can't see a City side, no matter how poor they play crumble this low.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:38pm On May 14, 2023
Roland17:
Take this mediocre bull crap far from me. Me and you have been fans of this club for decades on this thread. If e dey pain you then stop hiding behind the contentment of coming 2nd and being mediocre!

Tasting the UCL is the reason we were beaten blue and black in the Europa, bounced from FA and the League after being one of the highest spenders going into the season.
Lol.

Ok. We have finished second.

So what are you going to do about it since you aren't mediocre like me?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 8:36pm On May 14, 2023
A001:
You're just like the typical African that repeats the same distorted and false history peddled by Europeans and Arabs.

Like the Greeks, Africans also have specific names for their gods.

Olorun, Chukwu, Ohmorihi, Osanobua, and many others are specific names of African gods, just like Zeus, and co are specific names of Greek gods, Allah is a specific name of an Arab god, and Jehovah is a specific name of an Isreali god.

Luna, Ohmorihi, Ojo are specific names of gods in the Kogi culture, who are the ancestors of the Kogi people. Those are names, not titles.

All those entities are the chief gods or big gods of their culture, meaning each claims the title of God, and each culture around the world has its own sets of gods and goddesses, each of which is distinct from the others.

Otem would even tell you your Chukwu is an ET that designed early Ibos, who are the forefathers of present-day Ibos, just like Atum is an ET that designed the black people that had existed in ancient Egypt. All these entities people see as God are simply early beings.

Or gifted beings, who we call Orisa (deity) in Yoruba. Orisa means eni ti ori sa da yato in Yoruba or "a person made special or gifted by his/her head".

That's a deep history, especially if you know the history of African traditional religions well. Based on my findings interacting with different Isese (Yoruba traditional religion) practitioners, Otem's histories have a lot of depth.

Isese practitioners in Yorubaland would say deities like Orunmila, Oduduwa, Sango, Ogun, Osun, Yemoja, and co descended from heaven (the Yoruba word they use is rowa); some like Oduduwa did so with a chain or ewon in Yoruba, according to them.

(See the chain of Oduduwa, one of the ancestors of the Yoruba people in the attached picture.)

All these deities are early Yoruba people. Ignorant African Muslims and Christians would say these deities are demons; some foolish atheists would claim they never existed, that they're fictional entities.

You're a big fool if you think Socrates or Plato existed, and Orunmila or Ogun or Amadioha never existed.

Most Africans, including you, don't know the history of your local deities. But it's essential knowledge every African must know to preserve our histories and cultures.

As far as I'm concerned, Chukwu, Osanobua, goddess Ala, Afa (the same called Ifa in Yoruba), Amadioha, Yoruba deities like Olorun, Orunmila, Oya, Ifa, Osanyin, Sango, Ogun, Osun all are past beings, who are the ancestors of present-day Africans, and the same thing applies to Zeus, Allah, Yahweh in their respective cultures.

It's not a coincidence that many names -- of people, states, cities, and towns -- in the South-West have the names of these local deities as their roots or bases. They're names, not titles.

God is a title, not a name. You've gods of religion like Allah, Jehovah, Olorun, Chukwu, each of which is a distinct entity; also, there are gods of football like Messi, Ronaldo.

The practice of referring to gifted humans as a god or goddess (deifying humans) is an age-long practice.

That people call Olorun or Chukwu a god doesn't mean both entities are the same, just like Messi isn't the same as Ronaldo simply because people call both gods of football.

You're arguing blindly and ignorantly. People that make this your kind of submission also say their ancestors are Adam and Eve, when there's no single evidence for such a silly claim.

I don't know how an African is related to Adam or Eve. That's simply false history.

If you're Ibo, your ancestors are Chukwu, Ala, Amadioha, and co. The ancestors of Ijaw people are Fenibeso, Osanobua, and co. As a Yoruba, my ancestors are Olorun, Obatala, Orunmila, Ifa, Oya, Yemoja, Sango, Osanyin, Ogun, and co.
Amadioha means lightening, Anyanwu means sunshine, Ala means earth. These aren't names of ancestors. These are natural phenomena people consider awesome and worthy of worship. If you think otherwise you are not less foolish than I am in believing that someone called 'lord' is not a title.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:32pm On May 14, 2023
Jodera:
The bolded is just what I'm looking forward to cos we just need to get it very very right with our recruiting and signing. I just hope we do.

Dem fit say you deh talk mediocrity but facts is different from emotions

They can wallow in the negativity this season as if we're totally bad and claim that we call Arteta "a god that can't be touched". Na dem sabi
I remember a couple of seasons ago when he dropped to bottom three and we all wanted him sacked. Now he has finished second we still want him sacked. They call it mediocrity to say we improved this season as if we didn't.

I am quite emotional myself but I also try to take things into perspective. No commentator can say that Arsenal and Arteta didn't try this season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 7:30pm On May 14, 2023
Jodera:
Lol... Everybody have the right for opinions bro.

They can do their sarcasm all they want, it's their right.

I mean, we're all arsenal fans and we have the righ to be disappointed. How anyone goes about expressing his disappointment is right as long as there's no use of foul words or sort.

Let dem express their feelings, emotions and disappointments in peace boss.
Off course grin

Me I choose to take the positive instead of wallowing in the muds of regret and 'what could have been'.

The title chase was interesting and gave us moments to brag a little. But the team wasn't good enough to grab the chance. We take what we've got. CL next season will have a fresh meaning for me. E don tey.

I hope the team improves with good signings because fans will expect the title to come to Arsenal next season and then there would be no excuses.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 7:22pm On May 14, 2023
Fkhalifa:
Arterta no Sabi manage squad, he is only a first 11 Manager...
He is trying but still makes mistakes and wrong decisions
Apt!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 7:20pm On May 14, 2023
Roland17:
I don’t think those fans are real Arsenal fans..

Shouldn’t they continue cheering since the agreement was getting back to the UCL.

Remember the fans should be grateful for overachieving this season by coming 2nd.
I understand you are being sarcastic but don't take it too far.

The day was a disappointment to all fans. The season wasn't.

This team isn't as good as we think. The coach isn't as astute as we think. For someone who hasn't tasted CL for close to a decade, I will take second place. You and Sod may make caricatures but facts remain so. There's no way this team can go head to head with this City squad and their manager. If Arsenal wins the league, it would have been considered an upset. The best team in the PL competition is City by a mile. So stop all these sarcasm.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 7:04pm On May 14, 2023
Roland17:
You want to know if Arsenal bottled the league?

For the first time this season, majority of the fans left the stadium after we conceded the 3rd goal. The stadium was blank.

I wonder if those ones feel we are overachievers since the league was not the goal and agreement.
You expected them to keep cheering?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 7:03pm On May 14, 2023
kokaneprodigy:
Second is not bad sha
There was no way we were going to succeed head to head with City. Arsenal team was overrated. The players aren't as good as thought. The formation change was good and helped us through the season but change was not sustainable.

We go again next season. Hoping that this time there would be further improvement as we have seen. Title next season is no excuse.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 6:45pm On May 14, 2023
Donjazet2:
This isn't necessary.

Anything that gives positive validity is nice.
Positive records are a good thing.

One carving out a niche for themselves as the best in anything in the entire world is highly commendable.

As for the "Guinness world records", what they do is absolutely fantastic and immensely invaluable.
Just think about this, there are 8 billion people in the entire world and someone provides a service that marks out those that are very unique and have set records in various endeavors of our humanity and existence.

I don't think you grasp what this girl is about to achieve. Out of 8 billion people in the world, she's about to be known as the only person out of 8 billion to have cooked food the longest. She has carved a niche for herself that will boost her brand and popularity after this, not to mention the positive representation of her people and nation. I tell you, there is absolutely nothing to condemn here.

She should be commended and praised. This kind of things are what makes life beautiful. These kind of feel good moments. Moments to cherish.
What did she cook that took that long?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 6:43pm On May 14, 2023
A001:
That's very wrong. They're names. All dieties worshipped in Africa before Islam and Christianity are names.

Anyone can bear a title, but there's only one Olorun in Yorubaland, only one Chukwu in Iboland, only one Ohmorihi in Kogi, and many others.

Those are names, not titles.

Allah is also a name, not a title unless you've written your own Qur'an with an Allah different from the one Muslims worship.
I can't say for Allah as I don't know Arabic but I can tell you what those others mean.

Chukwu means big god. That's not a name. Jehova means the lord, that's more like a title. Same as others. If a god should have a name, who named him? undecided

Unlike Africans, Greeks have specific names for their gods like Zeus and Odin etc.

So you are wrong in the area.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:37pm On May 14, 2023
A001:
Notable black people including Martin Luther King Jr, Barrack Obama, Mandela, Oprah Winfrey, and lots of others are celebrated annually during the Black History Month.

Many of such popular people referred to as blacks are brown-skinned. Yet, they're still generally called blacks showing the term "black people" is generally used to describe dark-skinned people and brown-skinned people.

Thus, it's more correct to call the ancient Egyptians black people. Anything else from this is false or doctored history.

Most Africans don't think critically and check things in detail before accepting them as the truth. Thus, they know little about African history.

That's why in this part of the world, most don't know that all Christians and Muslims are pagans once you pray to Olorun, Chineke/Chukwu, Ohmorihi, and other pagan gods worshipped in Africa before its contact with the Europeans and Arabs that brought Christianity and Islam.

All these gods are pagan gods completely different from Allah or Yahweh/Jehovah. However, each of the gods claims the title of God Almighty just like Buhari, Obama, JFK, and other leaders has/had the title of president at one time or the other.

Obama isn't the same person as Buhari, just like Allah isn't the same as Olorun or Chukwu (pagan gods).

I laugh whenever I see a cleric bearing Chukwuemeka calling traditional worshippers pagans, yet the root or base of his own name is Chukwu, a pagan god. Unknown to him, he's a pagan as well due to his name and the fact that he prays in Chukwu's name.

But he's so ignorant that he thinks Chukwu is the same as Jehovah because both claim the title of God Almighty and also because the cunning European missionaries told him Chukwu is the same as Jehovah in their syncretic approach to rewrite his history.

The ignorant Yoruba would call Esu Satan, which is like calling orange mango simply because they're both fruits.

The average African doesn't know his left from right.
The people south of the Nile are blacks. Ethiopians and Sudanese. How then does anyone imagine that ancient Egyptians or their rulers were blacks. Even the bible historically refer to Egyptian Cushites as blacks.

You are also right when you explained that black does not necessarily mean black, but rather African.

Now about your paganistic view of Christianity and Islam. I think you are partly right and partly wrong. You are right in the sense that those names are references of the titles of the gods of religion. But like you said, they are titles. Chukwu, Olorun, Jehova (perhaps Allah) are titles not names. Now they may refer to the same entity by reason of personal imagination or they may refer to different entities. The title you call your god is subjective and not objective even as the title you call your president. For example, if you are in Nigeria and you say, the president has travelled, we all know that you mean Buhari. So if I say to someone Chi di mma (God is good), he knows who I am referring to based on my own belief. It is not a name ascribed to any particular god.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 6:42pm On May 13, 2023
OasisX:
cool
His biological father that called him Amoda will not find this funny grin grin grin

Na play I dey play o
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 6:38pm On May 13, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Exactly so if we blame arteta for the like roland17 said he's right
Roland cannot be right is Arteta finishes first or second in the league. The end justifies the means.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 6:33pm On May 13, 2023
iamoyindamola:
My point is when arteta notice we are starting to struggle against physical and low block opposition he should have prepare for it and unleash another plan that's what great coaches do notably klopp
You can't outclass klopp in 2 halves of football you take one he take the other
The only issue with this your advice is that it's too late grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 12:18pm On May 13, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Bros for a successful project
There should be plan a, b and maybe c
Sticking to one plan is plain stupidity
I agree 💯
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 12:17pm On May 13, 2023
Jodera:
Tierney doesn't need to reinvent himself just for 3 matches. Moreover, Tierney have been playing as cover anytime Zinny isn't on the pitch so I don't know why it should change now

I wonder why you'd think Xhaka will play that role. The same Xhaka that we deh lose all the matches wey him play Lb? Worst still Is putting Viera in Xhaka's role.

Omo, if we do those two stupid decisions (Viera for Xhaka and Xhaka for Zinny), I can 100% bet my balls that we won't win any of the 3 matches
The bolded depends on what you mean by cover. A direct substitute or a tactical change.

Tierney is not a direct substitute for Zinny.

Many of us think Zinny is a LB and that's why we get confused. He is actually a midifelder in our starting formation. He only inverts to the LB role when we are defending.

Tierney is a LB.

Just as Zinny struggles to cover in the LB position during defending phase that's how Tierney will struggle in controlling the midfield in the attacking phase. Which one do you refer to forgo, control of the midfield or covering the LB position? Arteta prefers to control the midfield and that's why Zinny has always been preferred.

If midfield control remains top of Arteta's plans, then expect to see Xhaka.

As for Vieira you will only hope that Arteta views Trossard as a worthy no 8 than him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 12:09pm On May 13, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Lol same winning tactics that got us drawing soton, westham, almost lost to bornemouth
We needed change since teams found us out, look at apari now using plan c formation
Our coach is predictable period
Zinchenko shouldn't be starting games immediately after that LFC match
Alaye have totally forgotten his primary duty
So the tactics that made us drag title with Man City is not a winning one?

Lol.

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