₦airaland Forum

raumdeuter:
I have been waiting for you and theflint1 to help us with the renovation of what Obi meant in Rivers by telling people to vote Labor in presidential but PDP in others

Abi na only presidency evil party dey? For other posts na angelic party dey there

Both Obi and Wine agreed that this elections is beyond party affiliation and that is what Nigerians have been demanding - independent candidacy.

Wike said PDP and LP are more or less vehicles. So the issue here is not which party to vote for but which candidate to vote for.

I will vote for any party that offers a more credible candidate.

F**k party.

OasisX:



Someone would speak for 30mins plus, but you guys are so much concerned on where he makes mistakes and has slip of tongue, instead of making it issue based discourse.

Same thing una dey wail about earn him 1b naira from SE Businessmen. People who actually matter understand what he said and points he tried to make.

Let's keep enjoying the game here as usual. We've thrown off issues based discourse for banters, so let's keep it up.

I will advice you to keep supporting your candidate if you wish but never defend goofs or silly errors. You will simply be fooling yourself. No one is perfect, if there's a mistake admit it, if it's too costly admit it and move on. You owe no man.

seankafor:
funny thing is people clapped

Why did people clap is what am asking

I was even thinking it was edited

That's the extent of the stupidity of blind follwership.

I will be extra careful not to fall into that trap. It's disastrous and self humiliating.

afrodoc2:


E pain me for marrow say even the great Ellexy, with a reputation once so pristine could stoop so low.

O jami lara je!

I don't know what idea you have but that information was sourced from ThisDay which is a reputable source. It's just unfortunate (I'd rather say fortunate) that the story was false.

Anyone who had the handle of that source would have come to the same or similar conclusion.

RedMac:
You see I just can't hide this any more, I will say it out here and now...

First of all, Tinubu has insulted every Nigerian, home and abroad in so many ways, the most painful ones was the Emilokan he said, more or less like telling or calling Nigerians fools, as if to say there's nothing anyone can do about it....

And yet you see the same people he has insulted still clapping and following him like flies chasing after pack of faeces...

We all know this man is not clearly fit, and I wonder why even the least sensible Nigerian will even think of the idea of him being our president, let alone campaign for him...

Are most Nigerians really these foolish, how can a man be insulting you and u keep on singing his praise...

A wise man once said... It's only in Africa (Nigeria) criminals will be regrouping to steal, and the people whose future are being destroyed will be the one drumming support for them...

I no go lie, if Tinubu wins this election e go pain me... And I go vex for many people

Forget the crowd. These are all state mercenaries, and praise singers. Every one of them that came actually did so to cash out. My little birds were there. They told me all na gimmick. Even the hall he used was panel beated into shape within two days. My little birds told me that even the N1bn donation na wash. It was an announcement by the governor. Any body who knows the governor knows that he was fooling everybody and sweet talking. My little birds reminded me of the promise he made to Fr Mbaka before he became governor. Both Fr Mbaka and the promise have gone stale. Voices on the streets say Imo State is Obi-dient.

seborrhic:
If Ihejirika truly wrote the above,which I have an inkling maybe denied pretty soon,then he is as uneducated as they come and one can glean from the entire write-up that he is just positioning himself for an appointment or dropping of any pending criminal charge by the APC government,if it wins re-election.
As I said though,I am suspecting Ihejirika will come out soon to deny being the author of the article.
It maybe one of those numerous pieces concocted by someone and attaching the name of a prominent person to it.

The op already stated the source of the article underneath. He is just being mischievous with his topic.

nihilistjnr:
I strongly disagree with this position.
Religion is still a significant part of people's lives in the developed world. Scientific method can, and continues to co-exist alongside Religious practice.

Africa's problem is not unique. The geographical constraints of the continent, particularly the thick rain-forest and disease vectors of sub-saharan africa made it difficult for it's inhabitants to develop at the same pace as Europe and Central Asia By the time those guys turned up on our shores, they had guns, cannons, and centuries or maritime and military pedigree.

The same issue we face in sub-saharan Africa is visible in continents with similary geography - South America is a mess, as is South East Asia.
The Middle East itself is also a mess save for the literal KINGDOMS of UAE, Saudi, Qatar, Oman, etc

The issue i'm talking about is colonialism, and more importantly the main consequences of colonialism - resource contention and Nation forming.

In Nigeria, we are where we are because Lugard arbitrarily joined a relatively educated southern Nigeria consisting of multiple tribes, to a largely uneducated North ruled by TWO empires - The Sokoto caliphate and the Borno Empire both ruled by the Fulani-Hausa tribes. Worse still, the British then allowed a dubious census to give the Nothern region is numerical superiority in parliament, and duly fcked off, setting the foundations of the country's utter dominance by the North ever since.

When you add automatic weapons to the existing volatility of resource contention, you have civil wars, you have seccesionist agitation, you have insecurity, weak administrative capacity, undermined rule of law, etc. Essentially you have us.

There's virtually no difference between Nigeria and Mali, or Nigeria and Bangladesh, or Nigeria and Mexico.

The European colonisers did more to set us back in their actions, than Religion ever did in my opinion sha.

Makes sense.

Eketem:
Not Chicago university please don't mix up details, Richard Daley college, the transcript from Richard Daley said female, from Daley to Chicago university it changed to male somehow.

Ok. Apologies

tinsel:
The question is how can one forge his own certificate if he actually graduated ? Or is it part of the noise making?

I think he took over someone's admission and certificate.

The reports states that Bola Tinubu A. that graduated from Chicago State University is a female.

BATified2023:
don’t mind the igbos

They will learn how politics is played,winning election is not by who insult pass or who pass fake news pass

I believe they should have known that since they hated buhari twice n it didn’t stop him

This issue has nothing to do with insults but the sanity of the entire country.

How you open your keyboard and type words in support of a questionable character without any sense of morality is amazingly shocking.

germaphobe:
spy wetin de vex me be say, the isak guy is not even playing(due to injury), yet newcastle dey ball wella. then why are these guys tryna confuse the whole debate by making it seem we are talking about him changing the way newcastle play. we are just saying they have the capacity to spend and they already did. how they team plays is solely cus of the coaching crew and all. nnaa!

Thank God say you and Lush dey here. Because anytime Jodera and Sod09 carry agenda e must to agend.

germaphobe:
i was just reading through y'all debate and asking myself wetin be dis. spy360 was, is and will be right anywhere una carry dis newcastle matter go. mentions of astonvilla, everton and others doesn't hold water cus it's an entirely different scenery. newcastle went out for two young talents, they even battle arsenal and won in the case of bruno G. arsenal clearly wasn't into buying him for that high price cus they thought he wasn't up to that amount, yet newcastle did and you claim it's no big spending?, someone that your darling club left cus of this same price tag. now about isak trust me edu would never spend such on him, yea g. jesus was our main target but at some point we also went for him before withdrawing and you think us withdrawing wasn't because of his high price which the club probably doesn't see as good and him not so fitting in arteta's plan wasn't part of it. see the clear truth is that newcastle is yet to go on big spending mood, but they did spent heavily on the two players.

Thanks for this.

What Jodera doesn't get is that this is not about comparing performance but spending power. He can bring up Wolves and West Ham it's not about them. It's about Newcastle.

They paid 70mil for one player. This will be considered heavy spending for any team that's not in the traditional big 6. This is irrespective of their performance.

Then in terms of their performance, it contributed. It's not the reason but it contributed. Just as Arteta did with Arsenal. We upgraded our team. It does not take away the effort of the manager but he can not deny that it contributed.

Jodera:
I understand all these things you guys are saying but you guys are saying it as if it's something new for a midtable teams but it's not(esp in EPL). Everton and Aston Villa don do this things also but nobody claimed they spent "heavily". Is it because they aren't overachieving?. I can even use Wolves to show how they spent almost 100m on two players only, yet nobody is saying they spent heavily. You can say they spend, fine but using heavily like say they're the first midtable team to do that, that I don't agree

When they start to spend "heavily" unlike their peers, shalaye no go much cos e go dey clear

No body has said Wolves did not spend heavily if that's your comparison. What we are saying is that Newcastle has improved the quality of their team. That is not taking away the efforts of their manager- something I pointed out from the onset. The fact is they improved their squad just as we did too.

Even in these times, 70m is heavy spending for a top club not to talk of a middle level club.

mostob:
It is not just one player bro...
But nobody would expect a club like Newcastle to spend more than 100M on just two players.

God bless you. Exactly my point.

How Jodera and Sod09 will admit they have Arab money yet cannot factor it into the argument is shocking.

Jodera:
I don't agree they spent heavily at all. In fact, they've not even start spending. With respect to their Arab money owner and EPL standard, wetin dey spend no reach for person to include "heavily" at all

The difference maker there is their coach (Howe) cos in terms of spending, there are some clubs that have spent more than them yet no show

You didn't get me. What I mean is that at their level they have spent big.

While I will admit that their coach is the main reason (which I have already mentioned) but for them to pay roughly €70m for one player for a midtable team is big. Also they didn't sell last season unlike most teams at their level. So in essence they have strengthened their first eleven with like 4-5 quality players over the past two seasons. That's big.

Pope, Botman, Trippier, Willock, Joelington, Target, Guimares, and Isak . Eight players to strengthen their first team alone.

sod09:
They are not mid table
They were never mid table
Btw 120m isn't big spending for so called mid table
Forest spend over 100m this season that's over spending for a relegation club

Top 6 clubs spend over 250m each


You said over 3 years what is the price tag Wilson how much
Woods how much
Willock how much
Pope how much
These 4 no pass 100m

If Newcastle are not midtable then what are they, top 6? Do you even know what's meant by midtable?

When you take a look at net spend you know what I am talking about. They buy and not sell. Usually, for a club in their class in terms of performance in the last 5years that spending big. That's also why they are attractive. Players like Trippier, Guimares, Willock, Joelington etc moved there because they saw some prospects.

The second other point is that they have a good coach in Eddie Howe.

As for Nottingham Forest, they are just coming off lower leagues and will need to spend some more and still keep their best players to have a shot to higher positions.

sod09:
You too they lie, they didn't spend heavily
Isak is 70m with 100k
Guimares is 50m with 120k
Who else

Lie?

Isn't 70m and 50m heavy spending for a midtable team? Those are fees meant for the top six.

Besides they have been spending for like three years now. So don't get over your self.

Jodera:
Paul Merson: “I can't name a single player of the season for Arsenal so far - that's how good they've been


I agree wholeheartedly with Paul Merson here. I can't name a single best player so far. This is exactly how I love my team to be

The winner here is Arteta.

I am glad we took the risk with him. He has learned his ropes and we're lucky to have him.

I remember years ago when he wanted to join and some of us felt he was too inexperienced for a big club like Arsenal; my response was that we have to get him as I see him as the next big thing after Pep. Having trained at Barcelona, Everton under Moyes, under Wenger and as an assistant to Pep. Again, for Pep to have such confidence in him to make him his assistant you know he's got something.

Pep says he's a monster and I believe him.

mostob:
Bro..you're right. What is surprising is that they don't have the players... I mean they are 3rd with players like Willock and Almiron.

And as for the Arab money, that's scary. Arsenal should look for her own sugar daddy too before clubs leave us for trenches
Heard Liverpool is on sale.

They got a good coach and bought some quality players with heavy spending and salaries. However I don't believe that model will last beyond a couple of years.

They are quite formidable.

Their weakness this season may be their bench. If for any reason the lose two or three key players, they are done.

Roland17:
Call me a prophet.. We need him inside the box and dangerous areas more.. He is such a technically gifted player.

2-0

Prophet...

Me na tactical guru.

Spy360:
Wolves prepared tactically for this game. They are playing 5defenders to stifle our wing as they know it's our strength. They key to this game is Odegaard and Vieira. To unlock the defense from the middle. I now wish Xhaka didn't go down.

BlueRayDick:
We should avoid loading Thay Saka wing too much with our attack play. We should exploit that Martinelli side as well. The FB with Saka dey monitor am seriously

Wolves prepared tactically for this game. They are playing 5defenders to stifle our wing as they know it's our strength. They key to this game is Odegaard and Vieira. To unlock the defense from the middle. I now wish Xhaka didn't go down.

diggz:
I am sorry to say bro, your logic is actually silly! Light and darkness should never mix together. Are you referring to same Atiku who saw something in a political and economical criminal like Okowa too? Can you let me know what Atiku saw in obi asides being an easily influenced and corruptible man?

If Obi is or was truly a saint, there’s no way in this life that he will agree to be the VP to one of the most corrupt individual in the history of Nigeria. Not only did he agree to be Atiku’s VP, your saint also calls him his leader, mentor and elder brother.

I am sorry to inform you, everything Atiku his today automatically translates to your Saint Obi. Show me your friends and I will tell you who you are. Obi is no different from Atiku or tiefnubu... If you woke generations wanted a saint una for dey campaign for dem moghalu and co… not a political prostitute like Saint Obi!

Using the word 'friends' in a political alliance only shows you are naive despite your assumed exposure. Assuming PO was not contesting this elections we would have been left with two thieves, and we would definitely pick one. I am not silly to say that PO is a saint. But I can confidently say that within my knowledge, he is the best available candidate.

Peter Obi aligned with Atiku to defeat the incumbent. That alliance obviously is now dead and buried. PO chose to allign with Atiku because that was the only sensible option then. Now he has chosen to break that alliance and forge a path for himself.

Itsrm:
Lies. Atiku did not see anything in Obi. He actually wanted Ngozi Okonjo Iweala. Obi was "forced" on him by Obasanjo.

If I should take your words at face value, it was even Obasanjo who saw the good in PO not even Atiku.

Majesty2:
My vote is for Tinubu, if uno like am go and drink sniper

I'd rather reserve a one for you till 2023. Your agbero career has ended

OasisX:


Atiku chose and took him to Okija Shrine to swear he won't decline the offer?

Lol.

Atiku's biggest regret today is PO leaving PDP. It would have been a smooth ride to Aso Rock for him with PO as his vice. But the times have passed and PO no longer considers Atiku as the genuine leader Nigeria craves for and has decided to stake his claim by himself.

That doesn't mean PO is a saint but I swear he is far better than all the other candidates available. Honestly had Osinbajo been on the race, I would be happier as at least one of them will win. But lo, we are left with just one sensible option. Peter Obi.

diggz:
Not a political prostitute like Obi though! From APGA to APC to PDP to Labour Party…like wtf! Same Obi who sees Atiku as his mentor and elder brother. Abeggi…. If only these woke generation get small sense them go don know since say na one chance dem wan enter with this Saint Obi. Nonsense

Peter Obi did not choose Atiku, Atiku chose him. That's because Atiku saw something in Obi and chose him as his running mate. Atiku being corrupt therefore does not translate to PO.

MelesZanawi:
Look at the state Obi governed, look at the state Tinubu governed. Now, ask yourself if you can ever have sense again.

I have honestly. PO focus on education and health which are the factors for human development, while Tinubu focused on developing agberos and planting his straw into the coffers of Lagos state's IGR.

I bet your senses haven't reached that point.

Mrshocker:
Even the Hausa boy won vote Jagaban.
Only southeastern Nigeria are standing alone with there usual regional politics

So with all the scandals surrounding Tinubu from drugs, to fake names and certificate etc you still support him. Where is your conscience?

Tinubuadvocate:
For only who don't understand Nigeria politics imagine he went as far as Ebonyi state to tell igbo why they must hate Yoruba. But when he get to Yorubaland he will tell them how peter obi can be a worst labour party candidate.

How do you support Tinubu without a broken conscience. Unless you are an evil person yourself.

If APC allows Tinubu's face to be in their ballot then there's no sane person there. The party should be scrapped.

nihilistjnr:
Tinubu was actually not a defendant in the case.

But there was a settlement?



The grandeur of self delusion is amazing. We can accept every shiut and any shiut to defend it

tunjiajayi:


Wise men know where to be, who to be with and how to be with.

Obi is not a wise man by responding to all invites irrespective of platform.

Atiku and Tinubu have shown that they are not really ready for presidency. They just want it go there to fulfil their dreams and then abandon Nigerians to their fate. Exactly what Buhari did. They will be presidents in absentia. Nigerians need to wake up to these insults. We should not take Peter Obi's servanthood mentality as a weakness. Las las na all of us go suffer am.