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Jodera:
Because they're one of core in this structure.
You saying the entire team have a bad day means I shouldn't call out any player is like you saying because we won a game, I shouldn't call out any player that performed well.

Partey and Odegaard was terrible ystdy which was an anomaly. I pointed that out and you said I shouldn't, that I should just forget it and move on... Haba Spy.

Even the way Blueray even brought out his points countering my point was even cool and we ended it on an understanding note(because he brought points), but you, you just came and dismissed my points as agenda


Spy Spy.. no be only you the match vex ystdy. Just calm down


NB: As for the bolded, Yes, most times. As long as those duo are the core structure of that team, it mostly affects how our attackers play.

It's agenda because you are looking for a cheap way to claim that midfield is what has been making us successful. As though defense and attack are just there for numbers.

It's like you have been waiting for when we will lose to stake your claim. But it won't work.

The entire team had a bad day as you admit so there's no need calling names as any name you call is already part of the entire team. Simple logic.

Besides, 'core structure' (where did you conjure that from ) is absolutely petty as every department as a block is a core structure.
Singling out just two people as core structure means we can do without the others. If this isn't so then this new excuse won't hold water.

BlueRayDick:
Leave to dey pursue their respective agenda.

Below is a true and fair view of how poor the entire team was yesterday

You don finish work. No mind my man Jodera with his agenda...

I know how to hold am for blokos.

Jodera:
in Wolves game, the main culprit was Gabriel abi. Did we later go on to win the game or not?

Tavarez have a bad game, fine, I didn't deny it, but we can actually still win that game if we weren't dominated all over the pitch. I've watched our games (esp switching to this 433) and while I know our defence have improved massively, I still have hope we'll win any game if our midfield is not dominated cos I know we'll surely conceded one odd goal here and there. In fact, I made that statement even on our good winning run not just something I said ystdy cos of a loss.

I've always been praising Partey and Odegaard when they're on song, why should I keep mute when they drop a stinker?

If the emboldened has any meaning, then why blame two people? The entire team had a bad day, why mentioning two people as if they are responsible for how others play?

Are Partey and Odegaard responsible for the performance of other players?

Jodera:
Forget about agenda, I no dey come here do agenda.

The question is, was our midfield dominated ystdy or not? Right from the first whistle to end of first half, did you see us winning that game? Abi you dey expect our defenders to dominate midfield?

Saka didn't look too bad ystdy, same as ESR. The only person I knew was very bad upfront was Lacazette. But did Saka and ESR see anything to do upfront?No.

I looked at each individual game before calling out the group and I know why we lost the grip of that game was because Odegaard and Partey weren't their usual self yesterday. They couldn't connect well with our attackers. Xhaka was just his usual normal recycling midfield self, nothing extraordinary.

It can be fatigue, it can be international break wahala, anyone, but I knew how many promising attacks Odegaard and Partey killed cos of their wayward passes.

Calling out Partey and Odegaard when the main culprit was Tavares sounds like agenda to me.

We were dominated all round in that first half. From goalkeeper to centre forward. Saying that the defense fell because of midfield is agenda.

Jodera:
I have said it before. The day I'll get worried is the day our midfield is dominated and chances aren't coming. Today was one of such days.

Odegaard played nonsense. Aside today being his offday and giving erratic passes and not being creative, he naively caused a Pk wen everyone knew that's what Zaha wanted.

Partey today was no where to be found. His passes erratic, his distribution poor and he couldn't even run. The duo of Partey and Odegaard being off-form scattered any hope we had from winning this match as our attackers were feeding off scraps in the first half.
Fatigue certainly, but it was costly today.

Lacazette have been shit for the last 3 weekend matches. It seems Watford and pre-watford matches have been a long time. Opportunity for Nketiah to grab, but he still haven't scored a goal. Hmmm

I won't blame Saka and ESR, they were mostly denied service from our midfield. The time our midfield woke up, it was too late as we were two goals down. Martinelli brought life to that attack too, but was silent as he moved to the other wing

Tavarez might just seal his fate if things don't work out well.


Hopefully, the boys become refreshed again during the weekend. I just hope they don't mull over this loss

Coyg!!!

By calling out the midfield you missed your entire point.

The whole team looked jaded. The whole team looked weak. The whole team looked disjointed. The whole team looked fatigued.

Was it their training regime? Was it the international break? There are more questions than answers.

The best thing is to move on, because this midfield agenda will not work here.

Jodera:
Nketiah wey play more than twenty minutes today never still see goals.

If na like this you want make him collect Lacazette shirt na OYO for you oo

No be by hitting bar

Even the commentator said that Nketiah has been more threatening in 10mins than Lacazette the whole game.

You are making fun of hitting the bar? Do you realise the technique he used to pick that shot? How many shots did Laca attempt self?

Honestly, Arteta will be pondering on dropping Lacazette soon. The earlier he does this the better our chances. I have said this before.

Going forward, if Arteta is ready to win games by outscoring his opponents, he sincerely needs to drop Lacazette. Dude totally weakened our attack.

50d33q:
Jodera will come and tell us how lacazette is linking with midfield when the agbaya failed woefully in his primary duty

Roland17:
Palace are killing us with those deep flat passes that evade the middle and goes right into attacking situations. Palace's press has also been successful this 1st half, this has disrupted our quick passing and transition.

Hopefully, Palace don't sustain this same press intensity, which would give us the space and time to build something. Also, Palace have historically conceded late goals so we need to score very early in the 2nd. Ring the changes early Arteta...

Spot on. Our hope in this game is for Palace to tire out

BlueRayDick:
Lacazette na spectator today. Tavarez seems not to be aware of any attacking move the other guys are trying out. It's as if he doesn't train with others

Tavares seem really confused. He is implicated in both goals for failing to mark his man. Very poor

Roland17:
Look your back and you go see me with my own stone..

I am patiently waiting for Roland17.

BlueRayDick:
I will never understand why fans will look at what Saliba said and claim he is right. I detest players with leaking mouth; those that run to press at every slight opportunity. yuck! Players like that end up being problematic irrespective of whatever talent/potential/quality they may possess. If push comes to shove, I will even prefer the club cash-in on him.

If he's improved as much he thinks/as being reported by French tabloids, Its no brainer that he will be part of the the bigger project(if he chooses to return to the emirates); whether he will be a regular starter is another matter entirely. There's absolutely no need for this so called shot he just fired at Arteta, if anything I believe this outburst will further affect his chances of being considered as part of the rebuilding going forward.

Let him just focus on playing football , get better at it and stop helping news men sell their papers. At least we've seen Arteta will use any youngster he fancies as part of his bigger project.

Just because of one small call up he wants to talk.

For me this is a bad sign. One of gross indiscipline and arrogance. We don't need such fellows biko.

50d33q:
Arteta once threw him to reserve just because of a game.
The lad need clarity before he commit, he's now an international player and should be treated with respect

Is he the one that needs clarity or the club? Who is paying who? Who is playing for who? Who needs to respect who?

Saliba needs to convince Arteta that he can play for a club as Arsenal. If what he is doing at Marseille isn't convincing then he won't be here next season. That's too simple. Going to the press to make a statement is calling for trouble. And I trust Arteta.

Besides, I am enjoying the current vibe in the dressing room. Saliba is too small for me to break that vibe. He is not even as good as either of our current CBs.

50d33q:
He never said he doesn't want to fight, he said he is not going to reserve again which I agree with him

Did anyone say he is going to reserve? Why raise an issue when there's none. If he believes he is good, and is sent to reserve, we will ask questions. But meanwhile he needs to stop talking.

We know Arteta is a disciplarian which we love, and we know he won't take shit. He has been vindicated and he will have my full support.

50d33q:
Saliba said he need guarantee he will be playing some games and will be on bench instead of playing for reserves.
He just threw a shot directly at arteta and I am interested in how he will react
Honestly I see nothing wrong in what he said he's a lad that know what he wants and he want to fight for it

He needs to shut up if he ever hopes of playing for Arsenal.

I hate it when players talk like this, what guarantee?

The only guarantee he will get is what others are getting and that is competition. Fight for your shirt or get out.

Jodera:
Exactly, that's to tell you the bolded that even Arteta doesn't trust him in this critical time the way you do.

10mins is much in football especially if we want to see out a game. It's the main reason why ESR is always the first to come on cos he's the most trusted among him, Pepe and Nketiah. It's another reason why they won't extend his contract except he agrees to become 2nd or 3rd choice

Off course he has to be 3rd choice not even 2nd.

Jodera:
That's the thing, we don't have that time to give him now. We don't have that luxury. Except of course Laca gets injured

If he wants it now, he needs to do the extraordinary

We can't give him 10extra minutes but we want to sign strikers for 60m. The extra minutes he is requesting for which are wasted by Laca

Jodera:
He was doing his primary duty which was link up play and act as a false 9. If klopp really need a firing 9, he would have benched him for Origi who was a better goal scorers than him.

Klopp primary duty for firmino is different from what you're expecting from him

So why is he now on the bench despite doing his "primary" duty?

The implication of Jota benching him is because part of his primary duty is to score goals.

Jodera:
I've not watched him but from few reviews I've read about him on his loan in Boro, he's having mixed campaign. I know how I dey hear ESR name even right from Huddersfield.

One thing with Nketiah is that he needs to grab his opportunities and grab it well. He's seeing at least 5-10min averagely and while that's small but if he really want to usurp Laca this season, he needs to be scoring goals even with that minute. Even his plays sef doesn't even inspire fans here
Martinelli did it, ESR did it, Saka did it.

You saw the way Willock became fan favourite by coming off the bench and scoring winning goals even with few minutes he had that made Newcastle cough out £23m for his signing, na wetin we need from Nketiah be that

You are asking for too much. Give him minutes to grow into the team.

Erickson's impact in Brentford is remarkable. He has lifted their quality 5notches up.

Jodera:
I've already said it(I think at Chelsea thread) that firmino dropped massive form after they carried champions League. His passes was erratic, his play was insipid (even in their title winning campaign). Klopp have to buy Jota to compete with him since he doesn't fancies Origi(who himself have a better goal ratio than firmino sef)

Jota who wasn't a striker at wolves blended at Liverpool too and added goals to his repertoire as well as doing what firmino knows how to do best

The question you'll ask is, why did it take up to 4yrs to replace firmino if he was that bad? Why wait till after they're UCL and PL champions?

I do not consider Firmino as a bad player. In fact I see him as good.

He fitted in well with the type of player Klopp wanted. The tactics needed someone to press from the front as well as drag the CB away from the FB so that either Salah or Mane can run in between the lines. He did that job well and it helped boosted Salah and Mane as well as helping Liverpool wins trophies.

But Jota scores goals and no matter how we want to consider it, it becomes a huge decisive factor in the choice of a CF between both players.

Jodera:
Lol... Sure

Even if na 6months extension sef, no way.
We need far better than him to go to the next level, reason why I no dey even reason Nketiah/balogun side for him replacement

Balogun is doing better than how ESR did on loan. I am assuming, all things being equal he will be a big hit.

As for Nketiah, he needs playing time honestly. It's sad he couldn't go on loan which would have helped him a lot. I see potentials of a goal poacher in him. I would keep him for at least two more years or better send him on loan to Championship or lower PL side.

Jodera:
The thing is, hardly you'll see any Liverpool fan (both online and offline) call firmino this.
I noticed people who bash firmino are non-liverpool fans who hardly watch their matches.

Why do you think Jota is benching him?

Jodera:
If Lacazette renew sef, I go no say arsenal no serious

Are you sure this is coming from your mind

Jodera:
True that.
I might defend Laca but even me can't be blind that we're really need more in that striking department. It's such a shame Nketiah can't take such opportunity with both hands and force his ways into Arteta plans before season runs out

Are you trying to bring me into this matter?

BlueRayDick:
It’s Lacazette’s inability to score that is killing our vibe, not lack of aerial threat.

Arsenal for years now has not relied on scoring with nodding , neither have our keepers been known to launch long balls as goalkicks which strikers are expected to contest upfront. In fact, out of the 68 goals Auba scored for arsenal I doubt he scored up to 10 with his head sef.

All this kind backdoor u dey take snuggle Lacazette into better striker discussion, we won’t take it

Help me tell am say Laca won't get a new contract...

Jodera:
Tbh, I think the least point we should be aiming is 74 points not even 70.

From 74-78points should be our target. Tottenham have one of the easiest fixtures amongst us and I don't trust Conte one bit

Based on history, 70points should be enough. Not that I would mind more though.

Jodera:
I just read that our North London derby will be probably played before the last 2 matches of the season(tho midweek). And that weekend will host Man u Vs Chelsea too.


Mehn, top 4 cracker down to the very wire and EPL wants to ensure blood fight with their scheduling

This is the point where we need to keep focus. The whole team must be focused and have a sense of urgency.

70-74points should be OK for top 4 and we just need 16-20points to get there from our remaining 10matches. At most 6 wins and 2 draws. We can make it.

Jodera:
Happy new month everyone!!

I pray this month will be successful for us in all areas of lives and that arsenal get all maximum points this month

Amen bro. All the best.

Jodera:
Lol.
Sometimes, I just feel we're all trolling here. I don't want to think y'all are serious when you try to twist all these things.
Sod who asked whether I've seen Saka played midfield suddenly agrees he plays midfield for us cos arsenal site says so.

This is the first time I'm hearing a fullback isn't a defender.
This is the first time I'm hearing in a 433 formation, the last 3 in the formation aren't attackers but Midfielders.

I mean we no longer watch ball but use stats/sites as our alpha and omega.

Wó, let everyone just believe all what they want. We no longer use attackers again in our games only midfielders.

Let's move on to other important discussion(e plenty sef), weekend is here.

EPL is back!!

What you have not done is to understand what Sod is saying.

He is saying that Saka once played fullback does not mean he is a defender. He plays there but that's not what he is. ESR plays as a LW but he is an AM.

Again, you did not realise that a 433 is also a 451 depending on how you look at it. That was why I told you that football positions are only really divided into attacking players and defending players. You start talking of midfield when you want to be specific about the area the player is covering.

If I say Lacazette is a midfielder because he drops deep will you accept? But if I say he is simply an attacking player, that covers the position is a broader sense.

Jodera:
Ah ah now!!

This is easy to comprehend na. Abi are we now twisting English again even as it's obvious, simple and plain?

How can anyone look at that screenshot then proceed to say Sod didn't say center forward. Abi CF no be center forward again?

I mean, this is getting out of hand na

In Britain (EPL) when they say forward they mean centre forward. They even call attacking midfielders as support strikers. When they say football they mean soccer. So Sod was correct in that aspect.

I will really love you to understand the angle a person is coming from before firing...