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@Icecold Don
The courses you are requesting are by nature competitive, there is nothing I can do to change that. That does not mean you don't have a chance.

My only suggestion is that you reconsider UiO: http://www.uio.no/english/studies/programmes/geosciences-master/index.html
The only requirement is C average. I believe you have a chance here.
Full list: http://www.uio.no/english/studies/programmes/

From my experience ANY of these schools will give you a good education. There are many programmes I can recommend, but I've listed most if not all energy/earth science programmes, so I'm out of links sadly.

chidiadi50: please can someone help me.what are the visa requirement for study in norway?which university in norway can accept second class lower for masters?

1. A certified copy of a valid travel document (passport).
2. You must be admitted to an approved full-time education programme
3. Funds

Many do, but it's depends on your programme.

It's amazing to read this thread and realize that people actually think of themselves as inferior. Truly astounding and it goes to show that the colonial powers succeeded. It is beyond my ability of comprehension how anyone can think like that.

Benin city in its prime was compared to Europe's biggest and most accomplished cities, no one could deny its brilliance. Edo art and craftmanship was compared to Europe's most accomplished pieces of art (it was even ignorantly claimed that it could not possibly be African, of course we know better today). Does that not tell you something? Why do you think they sought to destroy Benin and other areas in Africa? Because they posed a threat - they were scared of the future.

When you feel inferior, you'll act inferior. That's why Africa is where it is today.

Without colonization and the destruction of Africa's growing trade and cities, it would be a whole different reality today. Africa is rich is natural resources. The only thing keeping Africa from being a paradise (moreso than anything western) is ourselves. The only question is if Africa will ever let go of the past and move on to a brighter future.

The day you wake up and you're proud to be where you are, when you're proud to speak your language, that's the day we will see progress.

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tensor777: I don't know why you're telling us what languages you speak at the moment whereas this thread is on about the next generation and beyond.
What's that about lady?
Kids and young people are much more mobile and flexible than they have ever been so suggest that kids should be somehow forced to learn their 'home' language is really off base.

We are talking about parents going as far as banning their children from speaking their their parents' language(s). What purpose does it serve to not teach your children your language, and what do you tell these kids later when they come looking for help to learn it?

English can be learnt as a 2nd language in school. Mother tongue > English.

mobuch: Dude, Uni Nordland is a great school, but you can hardly get a job in that city without knowing the language; you can go, if you have enough money to sustain u without working, but if not, look for schools in oslo, stavangar and trondheim, if u want to get work with the english language.

It's always wise to pick up the language while you're there, unless you can do without work. You're not going to get a job the moment you land anyway, so might as well use your time doing something useful.

@OP

I highly doubt those statistics are correct, and where's your source? Even then, it does not cover Nigeria as a whole.

That said, there are many parents who chooses to teach strictly English to their children, it's quite sad, but the question everyone should be asking is: why is English the official language, and not a native Nigerian language? It's beyond me why so much of Africa chooses to speak French or English. People think language = money. That is not correct, and a lot of these children end up not being fluent in any language. It's like being in a cage not being able to express yourself properly.

Do you think European countries would throw away their languages? No, they would not. Yet Nigerians are embracing a language that was forced upon us like we should do everything in our power to learn it.

If I had to unlearn a language, English would be my first choice.

chykeo: @STARFLUX.....

HOW EASY AND FAST IS IT FOR SOMEONE THAT HAS AN EU INDEFINITE STAY TO GET ANY JOB THAT WILL SUSTAIN HIM FOR THE MEANTIME BEFORE HE GETS A BETTER ONE TO LIVE ON? AND HOW MUCH SHALL HE BE LOOKING AT TO GET A PLACE TO STAY? IMMIDIATE RESPONSE WILL BE HIGHLY APPRECIATED.....THANKS IN ADVANCE

It depends on how you plan on doing it.

My general advice is to do it through education. You can apply for a Norwegian course at a university (length varies, but it usually requires you to have applied for a degree) and get a normal job at a grocery store or something similar. This will also give you student housing which will save you a lot of money.
But as I said, it depends if you're willing to do that, or go some other way.

ba7man: The World is now a global village. English is still the most widely spoken Language in the world.

With what you're proposing, a man will watch CNN and won't be able to understand a Word......but when he watches the "Yoruba" news, he'll suddenly come alive.

How will he now be in tune with the World??

Ask China, Russia, France,Japan, Norway and every single country with their own spoken language (some of which have far less speakers than many Nigerian languages). Language is power, and throwing it away is like throwing away food from your feet while you're starving.

English or any other language for that matter, can be learnt as a 2nd language. It's pitful to watch a country such as Nigeria subjugate to this ridiculous wave of English eletism and status bearing.

What is English? Abeg make am go away

Very sad, everyone deserves a chance.

Start offering education in our mother tongues instead of this English gibberish.

Icecold Don: @starflux, still expecting your reply on alternative schools n programmes,boss....tks

My apologies.

NTNU:
1. http://www.ntnu.edu/studies/mienerg
2. http://www.ntnu.edu/studies/msse
3. http://www.ntnu.edu/studies/mswind
4. http://www.ntnu.edu/studies/msisee
5. http://www.ntnu.edu/studies/msenvieng

UiN: (These are business related and probably not what you're looking for).
1. http://www.uin.no/english/study/coursecatalogue/masterprogrammes/Pages/MSc-in-Sustainable-Management.aspx
2. http://www.uin.no/english/study/coursecatalogue/masterprogrammes/Pages/MSc-in-Energy-Management.aspx

HiN:
1. https://nuc.hin.no/studies/master-science-computer-science
2. https://nuc.hin.no/studies/master-science-electrical-engineering

HiG:
1. http://english.hig.no/study_programmes/technology/master/macs
2. http://english.hig.no/study_programmes/technology/master/manufacturing

UiS:
1. http://www.uis.no/studies/master-s-programmes-in-english/computer-science/

aodis: @starfkux pls I am about to apply for a postgraduate programme at the university of nordland, I have 5yrs exeperience as a project manager with a logistics firm. I have a background in sociology and am applying for M.sc Energy management. It is stated in the sch web dat I have to show financial proof of 94000krona in form of a bank transcript. Does dis mean Its my naija acc I have to show? And how many weeks must d money be der. 2ndly do I qulify for d admission looking at my background in sociology since the course its self is business related! Cheers!

Yes, your Nigerian account. The money stay for as long as you want, you just need to document the funds, but when you application is accepted, you will need to transfer that money to the school's account. It will then be returned when you open a Norwegian bank account.

I'm unable to confirm if you qualify or not. Send the school a mail and you get a reply in a few days. hhb@uin.no

Ezegozie: What i never understand in this Norway issue is this

since the so called 2.5milion is deposited before visa is issued, what happens if after sending the money you didnt get admission or you are denied visa due to one problem or the other.
Will they send you back the money or will it just go like that?
please may someone answer me?

No, the money will be returned. Read above post.

ifyalways: Thanks.

A similar word exists in Igbo language and I believe its a borrowed word . In Igbo dibia adigboloja means an ill-equipped native doctor.

Hmm, interesting. I wonder if that is the original meaning or if it was changed.

Icecold Don: @starfkux,tks so much man,u are a life saver. so that means I must write TOEFL, man this is bad and I will have to wait for the result before applying. Thanks but I don't know is that will be possible, are there schools offering similar courses that you are aware of.

You're welcome, and sorry for the unfortunate news.

I'll have a look at other alternative programmes.

kamui gaiden: @starflux I must say that you are indeed a blessing to us looking for information about studying in norway and God will continue to bleSs you.
Well I am a prospective student for the university of bergen and I have been reading your post on this thread since 2009 I intend to study in norway @ UIB please if there is any1 on this thread too for the same purpose,uib especially please I would like us to chat as this can bring about a motivational factor becoz rite now am having doubts because of the kind of information I have been reading thanks add ♍ε̲̣̣̣̥ -32301fbf

Thank you so much!

If you'd like to share what information you're referring to, feel free to do so, might be able to give a more clear answer.

chunaph: Please btw uis and uio which one is better in terms of job prospects for a geoscientist?

I'm going to say that you're on a fairly equal footing with either one.

When something bad/wrong/unfortunate happens, a natural response to this is "to be angry". By saying "don't be angry", you are actively trying to prevent that person from becoming mad/angry after an event and at the same time it expresses the idea that you know and understand the event that occured.

Let's say a Yoruba child encounters a foreigner speaking Yoruba (but the foreigner's Yoruba is used in an anglified way). The foreigner says "I am sorry". The child might ask: "kí'lo dé?" - why? If the child was in the foreigner's shoes, the child's natural response would be "má bínú". This also works the other way around.

It does not make sense to always carry out a concept of one specific language to another, because that might not make any sense in that language. That said, examples have already been given as to how you can translate the phrase "I am sorry".

nenergy: It just sounded strange to me at that time. Asking someone not to get angry instead of saying ; "i'm sorry".

Yes, but look at this example in Yoruba.

Ṣé ará le? (Are you okay?)

Èyìn ndùn mí (back hurts me)

In English you would answer: "I have back pain" or "my back hurts". There's a slight difference in how you express feelings. But in essence, má bínú, (ẹ) pẹ̀lẹ́ and various other versions are more or less the same as "I am sorry", just expressed differently.

@Icecold Don

I got the reply today. They said that they have this additional requirement to ensure that your English skills are sufficient. They don't have the capacity to evaluate each and every applicant since they have a lot of applicants.

It's unfortunate news that I was not aware of.

Why is this a surprise? Very few things can actually be translated literally (as in word for word) from language to language. On top of it, there's a pretty difference in how languages express feelings. That doesn't mean you can't express something with the exact same meaning.

Fulaman198: In some ways, what I said may be harsh, but that is not the intention. How will learning other foreign languages help one get a better aspect of their culture. Why Learn German before Yoruba if one is Yoruba, or why learn Spanish before Fulfulde if one is Fulani? To me it does not make sense. Why love another's culture more than your own, hence my signature which in English translates to, make sure you know your language, because if you forget your language, you forget yourself and your identity.

How can one call themselves something if they do not even speak that language. I am not trying to be harsh dear Fulanigirl because we are of the same stock, I am Pullo you are Pullo. But one must have pride in their roots, from where they come from. I find the issue with Africans is that they always want to be from somewhere else (mainly Europe or the Middle East) we should be happy from soil and roots we are from.

I agree.

Nothing wrong with learning other languages, but it's important to learn your mothe tongue. Imagine where we could've been today if Nigerian languages were/are being developed more and more, and actually being promoted, not discouraged. People would be asking: what is English?

ifyalways: To my Yoruba peeps,please is adigboluja a yoruba word?If yes,what does it mean?
Thanks

I believe it means: something in the lines of a "fighter".

[quote author=Yoruba_Omoge]Peace also means ifokanbale when you're talking about an individual's peaceful state of mind.

But peace in general . . . .i.e world peace. . . . then it's alaafia.

I.e Mo wa ni alaafia. . . .I'm in peace.

Alaafia la wa. . . . we're in peace or wellbeing[/quote]Ìrẹ̀ or ìrẹ̀lẹ̀ can also mean peace. Ìfarabalẹ̀ can also be used as already mentioned when talking about a state of mind.

Peaceful - onírẹ̀lẹ̀ (person), jẹ́jẹ́ etc.

Àlàáfíà is not an original Yoruba word, and it doesn't really mean peace. It's better to avoid the word.

newacca: Do I stand a chance getting visa for undergraduate prog. at age above 30?

Yes. It's not uncommon for people even in their 40s to be studying. Age is irrelevant.

The only problem with undergraduate programmes is that most of them are in Norwegian, but that's not a problem if you apply for a school that offers the 1-year course for you to qualify.

uzoexcel: Hi starflux!!!nice work!!!why does one have to leave norway when visa expires?hw realistic are the chances of nigerians in gettn jobs there?
Also,if one is on a student visitor visa in the uk,can the person start processing his applications for m.sc to norway from the uk or does the person need to be in naija to do all this?regards!!!

Thanks!

Because a student visa is not a permanent residence permit, it's temporary. The chances are pretty good if you bother to learn the language and finish with a decent result (a more advanced type of job). For just working in grocery stores and so on, you have good chances from the beginning. You can also apply for a 6 month visa renewal after your studies to apply for jobs.

As for your other question.
"If you are outside Norway you hand in your application at a Norwegian embassy or consulate in your home country or the country where you have held a residence permit for the last six months. In some countries you will hand in the application at the Swedish or Danish embassy instead"
http://www.udi.no/Norwegian-Directorate-of-Immigration/Central-topics/Studies/How-do-I-apply-for-a-residence-permit-for-students/

So if you've been there for 6+ months, then you can, otherwise it needs to be done in Nigeria.

django1: Ojuti is shame. Shyness is "itiju"

E se!

Wow, what happened to this thread >.<

Icecold Don: Star,thanks a whole lot for all your help. I tried applying to telemark university college today for masters in energy and environmental technology,but in the first step they asked for English proof and listed just 6 countries as exemption with Nigeria not in it,and I couldn't pass there. I knw in other universities proof of English is not necessary so I don't understand. Please can u look into it for me....please as soon as possible,tks

I see now that they have extra requirements for this programme.

"For admission to Master in Environmental Science and Master in Technology ("Energy and Environmental Technology", "Process Technology" and "Systems and Control Engineering" ) there are some extra requirements for English proficiency. The requirement for English proficiency for applicants with a bachelor degree from outside the Nordic countries may be met in one of the following ways:

International English Language Testing Service (IELTS) with a minimum score of 6.0. An IELTS test is only valid for two years. You must take the Academic test.
Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL) with a minimum score of 550 for a paperbased test, a score of at least 210 for a computer-based test or minimum 80 for an internet-based test. A TOEFL test is only valid for two years.
Bachelor’s degree from UK, USA, Canada, Australia, Ireland or New Zealand with English as the language of instruction."

I would advice you to send them an e-mail, but it's still extremely strange and I have never seen anything similar. Why would they exclude other countries where English is used as the language of instruction? I will personally send them an e-mail and see what I get as an answer.

rafcrown: WHAT KIND OF JOB CAN ONE QUICKLY GET IN NORWAY?
WHAT PART OF NORWAY CAN ONE QUICKLY GET JOB ?-LEGAL JOB.

Depends on your qualifications and language skills.

My only intention with this thread was to sum up everything in one thread. People ask many of the same questions over and over again, and they have to dig through several pages of information before they "might" find it. It's understandable that most people can't even be bothered doing that. This makes the information easier to find and more available. Then the people who's looking for casual talk go to the other thread.

I understand that it's better with one thread, so as I said, you can remove this one if you feel that's the optimal choice. I won't be offended.

Because it's messy, and not aimed at studies/visa applications in particular. As you can see I've been very active there, but I keep having to dig up the same replies because I don't own that thread, and I don't have time to keep doing so.

If you feel this thread is unecessary, feel free to delete it.

newacca: Thanks so much for furnishing us with vital information on this thread.

You're very welcome.

*Please, if there's anything you'd like to be added or changed, make sure you post a comment.

[size=14pt]Key points[/size]
*No tuition fee
*Graduate programmes available in English
*Undergraduate studies available if you take a 1-year Norwegian course, though there are a few exceptions with English as the language of instruction

- Why should I study in Norway?
Norway is full of top modern universities with up-to-date technology and equipment available at their disposal. It's a small country with a population of only 5 million spread around. It's peaceful and packed with different people from all over the world.

- Are there any language barriers?
90% of the people you'll come by will be able to keep a conversation going in English. 99% of the students at your university will possess good English proficiency.

- Is the language (Norwegian) difficult to learn?
Yes, and no. The tonal qualities of Norwegian makes it difficult to sound like a native speaker, but on a general basis, the language is closely related to English and shouldn't offer too many surprises grammar wise. In a couple of months you'll be able to speak satisfactory.

Many technical terms are similar to the English equalivients. For example: construction - konstruksjon, engineer - ingeniør, situation - situasjon etc.

-Is it cold?
Norwegian temperatures are very often described as "freezing" all year around. Needless to say that this is an exaggeration. Winters are cold, for the rest of the year you'll be able to enjoy mild and comfortable temperatures. Summer temperatures can even reach up to 30 °C.

-What do I need before applying?
1. Find the programme you're looking for. This can be done in a number of ways:
- Google (for example: "business magagement bachelor/master Norway"
- http://www.mastersportal.eu/countries/19/norway.html (though some programmes might be missing)
- Going to the respective university's website. Full list: http://www.studyinnorway.no/Where-can-I-study/List-of-institutions

2. Make sure the study programme is available for international applicants
3. Read up on your university's application procedures. An example here from University of Oslo: http://www.uio.no/english/studies/admission/master/
4. Make sure you meet the requirements
5. Apply (deadlines varies depending on what you're applying for, but the most common date to open for applications is october 1st with deadline december 1st).

- Student VISA (after gaining admission)

- Work prospects

Useful links:
http://www.studyinnorway.no/

This is a work in progress. I'm submitting it now so people can start asking.

Ernestmm: sorry. I think I have gotten all the information that answers my questions. thanks a bunch. I'd still come with more tho.

That's okay Listing it here just in case.

1. Certified passport copy
2. Gained admission
3. Funds
4. Guaranteed accommodation (this is nearly always guaranteed)
5. You have to leave Norway when your visa expires

I might make a dedicated thread for this topic. There's so much information, and I tend to forget to mention a thing or two from time to time (but I assume people do their own research as well), but it would be more tidy if I made a thread with links and info.

bodeplot: @starflux..thanks for ur reply,am applying to NTNU chem engineering and stavenger..av submitted preliminary form first waiting for real form..thanks

Glad to hear that. Crossed fingers!

Ernestmm: Tanx a lot. I'd surely return with more questions.I am preparing against starting sept 2014.d application portal for both schools haven't open yet, so I am just working on my porttfolio atm.

You're welcome
Hope you make it through, and questions are always welcome.

ceechedah: thanks Bro, God bless u

You're welcome!

Ernestmm: First, I'd like to thank the star of this thread, @starflux. You have provided invaluable information here like we are paying for it.

I am planning to apply to Oslo school of Design and Architecture (AHO) and Bergen school of architecture, had even contacted AHO asking if they currently have Nigerians doin graduate prgrammes, unfortunately, they don't.

I'd just like to know my chances of getting admission for an M.Arch in these schools with a 2.2 and a good portfolio, and also to clarify if I'd need to show any proof of english proficiency? Thank a lot.

Grades are usually not the most important factor when it comes to architect studies, so I would say you defitenly have a chance. On top of that, experiences from other countries are highly sought after, so you already have an edge there.

You've already completed an undergraduate degree in English, so there's no need for any further proof.

amblessede: PLEASE, WLD LIKE TO APPLY TO MORE THAN ONE SCH. IS IT WISE TO GET JUST ONE BANK STATEMENT AND RUN COPIES OR SHLD I MAKE SURE I GET THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF STATEMENTS FRM THE BANK. PLS, NEED ANSWER SHARPISH. TANKS HOUSE

I don't know, unfortunately.

Send the schools a mail.

I wouldn't worry about it at all. Should be perfectly fine.

Yes, a letter of confirmation.