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honeric01:
I am still waiting for answers to the rest of my questions o,



Please do not TURN this to a tribal war thread, be careful.

Jason was absolutely right with his post and I see nothing wrong in it. What was your question again?
Maybe I can answer it

At OP I have a question

Why did the Bini people leave Lagos around the 19th century ?

afam4eva:
Technically it is Lagos people's land. But the problem now is: Who are the Lagosians?

1) Are they people who are either indigenes, people who were born in Lagos and people who have naturalized in Lagos.

2) Is is just indigenes?

3) Is it just Yoruba people?

4) Is it all Nigerians?


I go with the first option.

If you don't mind me asking. Are you an Awori or an Egba or an Ijebu? If not then you have no right to speak about the owners of Lagos and who there land belongs to.

Andre Uweh:
Is Lagos no man's land or all mans land?.

No. Lagos like other cities around the world have indigenes that where leaving there and are still there. Lagos is an Awori, Ijebu and Egba land

afam4eva:
How did the Portugese name "Lagos" come about.

The Portuguese used Eko(which means Oko farmland in Awori) for trade of slaves, weapons, palm oil and others. They traded slaves from the Egba people in present day Lagos and that is why the Yorubas are found in Portugal colonises like Brazil etc.

Also, they traded weapon with the Ijebu's via lagos and with the yoruba close allays then the Binis. After some years, they then decides to change the name of the city from Eko to Lagos.

After the absents of the Portuguese, the name was changed back to Eko until the Bristish came and mapped the city as Lagos thanks to the Portuguese which they met. By which the Aworis were still under the Bini rule in those days.

My people are the Awori people of Lagos. I am from Ise eko Lagos and I have very mixed ancestry which are Awori (father) Egba/Offa (Mother) Brazilian (great grandmother from father side), Bini (great great grandfather).
We are known for fishing, partying, business and are a very loving and accommodating people. We also known to intermix with people from different backgrounds as it is seen from my background.

We love foods like Crabs and all other sort of seafood because we are coastal people. We also eat tapioca (coconut) with milk. Efo riro and Eba/Iya is also part of our food.

Law prince:
The statement "Lagos is no man's land" is mostly used by thoughtless and ignorant personalities who aren't contended with their heritages, and are consequently pleased with being exiled as a 'born throw away' in another mans land. We refer 2 such ignoramus as 'Oloju kokoro'.
I can't just imagine the meaning of that phrase which I mostly hear from the mouth of the Easterners. Only persons with the highest degree of insensitivity will refer to a place like Lagos with such an ultimate degradation.
This reveals that many Nigerians don't read. At least any reasonable person would have read the colonial history in Nigeria, and must have seen that they actually met some people in the province, and not an empty land. I've got no time for history.
This made me recall what a Learned European once said: "If you intend to hide a thing from a black man, hide it inside a BOOK. He will never see it". I now see a candid reason why Lagos now adopts a strict measure in admitting people into their University and Civil service. I for a time criticised the logic in segregating between a Lagosian and an non-Lagosian, especially in cases of admission into Lasu and Alausa. I now see that, that is the best measure to command respect for Lagosians by making the mumus realize that Lagos is some peoples land.
The major catalyst behind this apprehension is that Lagos as a commercial capital city inhabits everybody, regardless of where you are from. And that Lagosians doesn't have that bad culture of discriminating against others.
Why not say Abuja or Port Harcourt is no man's land and you face a befitting consequence.
NB: Please, this reply is not directed to non-Lagosians who are resides in Lagos with utmost good faith.

Very well said. In fact God bless you for you statement. It is very thought provoking to our ancestry land called a no-man's-land. I think the government most especially the Lagos state government need to do something about this event taking place in Lagos.

PhysicsHD:
Well, the spambot got that very long response. No surprise there.




@ Yoruba speakers, could you explain something to me


How can "Olueko of Eko" be the traditional Yoruba title of the Oba of Lagos if he has a unique title for his throne?


a) Doesn't "Olueko" (Eleko) literally mean king/ruler of Eko? In that case, "Olueko of Eko" would mean King of Eko of Eko? Well if it is indeed Eleko of Eko (which still means ruler of eko of eko), then he does not have a unique title for his throne. It would seem that exotik was right. There is nothing unique about the Oba of Lagos's title because it literally means ruler of Eko (Lagos). This is no different than the Oba of Benin meaning the king of Benin or the Olu of Warri meaning the king of Warri. I don't think that Olueko or Eleko is a unique title.

b)  What is the difference between Olu and Oba as far as speakers of the Yoruba language are concerned?

Olu can mean ruler or lord so if you say Olueko of eko, it means ruler/lord of Eko. Olu of Warri means ruler or lord of warri. Olu of apapa etc

You can read more here

http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/2139

Nigerians own Lagos but the original occupants are the Awori and I am fortunate to be a Lagosian Awori myself. We Awori are a sub-group of yoruba and are coastal people. dwelling in Lagos and part of Ogun state.

The south-south people that you are talking about do not know there history and are just trying to pull your legs. Lagos is surrounded by ogun and ondo state before getting to any South-south state so why can't they claim Ogun and Ondo.

E yin omo yoruba, e ka re o

mo ki yin awon omo oduadua

Dayo were ni e lol

dayokanu:
Ki se ebi emi na, Awon omoge asiko yi ti dara ju walahi se lo dabi wipe kin fe gbogbo won

Boda Dayo, e ro ra o. Awon Omoge e wa se yin le se

E mo pe awon obirin ye ma kan yin se meji. Lol

I have dated about 5 igbo girls, 1 urhobo, 4 yoruba girls in my life

From all this I can categorically state that the Yoruba girls are the good. I am yoruba by ethnic group but I would tell you the truth. Yoruba women are clean and decent. In fact the last yoruba girl I dated was so nice I could not compare of to another.

Truly yoruba women are lovely in nature(that is if they love you). Other women are nice as well. Of all of them the Urhobo girl was the best.

Andre Uweh:
Reread my post. I did not say that it has happened before. Step1 claimed that only Yorubas are fit for positions meant for Lagos. As a result I asked him that question.

What is your problem with Lagos and yoruba people. Edo, Itsekiri people understand the SW politics so why is it that you from the SE are complaining or is he your relative.

jason123:
It has never happened. STOP LYING!!!

Even if it happens I see no problem in that. As I have said before, "we are a very accommodating people but once an outsider gets involved in out politics then there is trouble"

jason123:
Guys, if a state wants its INDIGENES to represent them, I don't see the hassle. I mean, because Lagos state is the commercial center does not mean we should neglect the indigenes, after all, they gave us their land to use.
This is just ONE slot, haba, give it to the Aworis and Egun people (the real indigenes)!!!

Abuja is the current capital, yet no body from the South can say this sort of crap at the Hausas that over lord the Gwaris. It only when its Lagos state, you will start hearing the likes of DEDE1, all the way from the SE, shouting that someone deserves a slot!!! Such selfishness!!! Is it until these people take up arms like the ND before we start showing some respect?

Btw, for those of you shouting Eku bear down, Lagos is a SW state and so is Ekiti. So he has more rights to talk about Lagos than any of you guys!!! E gba be!!!!

Ese egbon mi. I hope Lagos does not get to that stage so as to sink some sense to this people especially like of Dede1. What cannot be done in FCT can be done in the SW. What rubbish, Lagos is not multi-ethnic because it was the formal capital. It is multi-ethnic because of the accommodating nature of the AWORIS and Egun now if that is taken for granted there will be riots as seen in 1993 , 2000. Calabar was the formal capital but I do not see people wanting to be in the position of power but when it comes to Lagos will will see people especially from the SE fighting like it is there rights. This is one of the reasons I do not like ACN.

Well I have news for you, if this continues you people will lose a lot and that is the truth.

Dede1

I think you do not know much about Lagos. Lagos was called Oko by the original settlers which are the Aworis. The term Eko used by Bini is the corrupted form of the word Oko after the bini built a war camp in the area. The Oba of Lagos is a full fleshed yoruba because if he is Edo, then I must be Edo then and I am not. Do you understand that.

@ topic

Aganga can not represent Lagos because he is not yoruba plain and simple. This is not being ethnocentric or tribalistic but the reality is the PDP SW is dying and we need someone that can organise the people to believe in PDP again. Well Aganga cannot do that. No hard feeling for my Edo brothers or anyone that feels offended but that is the reality.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=691748.msg8531935#msg8531935 date=1308244330]^-- nope, ekiti[/quote]Rightly said that surname is common among Ekiti people.

Ystranger:
Really? Any link?

Agbede sounds Lagos/Ogun axis , No?

They are also found in Ogun but not sure of Lagos.

At topic

Good move

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=692321.msg8536277#msg8536277 date=1308311948]Being born, raised, and residing in a state is NOT being an indigene of that state. That isn't the definition in Nigeria, or anywhere else in the world (to my knowledge.)

Do you even know what the word indigene means? Dede1, you post very silly things sometimes.[/quote]Tell me about it.