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billyG:
Israel defeated a whole Egypt backed by Soviet union military personnels,warplanes & tanks... destroyed all their acquired Soviet Mig-23,sorrounded their 3rd army ,sieized d Sinai peninsula & was matching toward Cairo until Egypt begged US to help them call for cease-fire....you are talking of 6hr war....do I need to show you 1973 videos of surrended humiliated defeated egyptian soldiers?
Google is your friend.

So Egypt that lost less than 10 planes lost but Israel that lost over hundred destroyed them? Egypt was not backed by Soviet Union as Egypt and Soviet Union were not in good terms at the time of the invasion - Egypt kicked out Russians from Egypt before the invasion. We all know why Israel had to surrender and why the Russians later got involved. America was all out to destroy Egypt had the Russians not intervened. The record of the largest military airlift made for Israel and how American pilots fought alongside the Israelis is simply the reason.

One on one without outside help, Egypt will clear Israel everyone knows that

Wizardslayer:
US is the undisputed world power.

The likes of Russia, China and Iran are only struggling to stand up to US hegemony and monopoly. The whole mid East is quiet today because of the fear of USA.

The US only has one weapon - the dollar. Let's see how far the dedollarization spree goes. Then we'll end up with a world with multiple powers and no superpower.

smeag0l:
There is no islamic or combinationof islamic countries that can defeat Israel. Get that clear now if you were dreaming about it. It wont happen.It is just like saying there's a country that will defeat US or China. No Oslamic country had its military ranking in the top 15 militaries in the world. Israeli IDF ranks in the top 3 or 4. Till today, even the US doesn't know what the Iron dome technology is made of. Till today, Israel still supplies the US and Russia with military technology. The only reason I will rank US and Chinese military ahead of Israeli military is the superior number of infantry soldiers they both have. I won't rank Russia ahead of them because , while Russia has more infantry soldiers, Russia is way behind Israel in terms of military technology. Do you know that while this Hamas war was going on Israel has bombed two Syrian airports because missiles from ISIS came from Syria? Do you know that they've blown up parts of Lebanon just over a week ago in response to Hezbollah ? Continue thinking the Israelis are like one of your Turkey or Iran. They will attack any Islamic country that missiles come from and there's nothing anybody can do about it. They're protecting their land. Besides, they gave Gaza to Egypt and West Bank to Jordan in the 1960s but none of them wanted it.Instead they left those areas to Israel to manage. Palestine isn't a country. The Jews were the ones referred to as Palestinians prior to 1948 as the Arabs hated that name. All of a sudden, since Israel was created the Arabs have taken up the name Palestine in order to further their evil agenda.

Guy, you are deluded

smeag0l:
America only supplied weapons to Israel when the soviet union supplied to Egypt. Nothing more. America never attacked nor planned to attack Israel in 1973. Go and read your history.

America only supplied Israel when Russia supplied Egypt? Must you guys lie to project Israel as invisible?

Israeli army are good we all know, but they're not the superpower you guys project them as. There are at least 5 Islamic countries that can destroy Israel on a one on one war without outside interference - America and NATO are the reason they still exist and America is busy buying these Islamic powers over and selling weapons to them, you know what buying weapons from America signify. They can deactivate the fighters in the middle of a war if you fight their allies and do even worst to that country this is why most of these countries would never fight Israel. Remove America from the equation and see Israel destroyed within months

smeag0l:
That wasnt what happened in that war. Egypt gained an advantage in the first 6 days of the war, pushing back Israeli forces stationed in Sinai beyond the recognized boundary lines. This happened because Israeli forces were split in two fronts- on the north battling Syria and on the east battling Egypt. The remaining soldiers held their positions and inflicted serious casualties on the Egyptians when they planned to advance further beyond Sinai. Remember that Israel took Sinai from Egypt in 1967. Back to the 1973 war: When Israel finished with Syria by bombing every critical infrastructure in Aleppo , Damascus and othwr cities, they destroyed the syrian army including additional soldiers send from Iraq and Iran. There were Jordanian soldiers but Israel didnt touch them because the king of Jordan never wanted to fight that war so he just asked his soldiers to show presence but never engage. This was already agreed with the Israeli prime minister. Israel now pulled its resources from syria to face Egypt but maintained an outpost in the Golan heights. This reinforcement was all that was needed to ambush the Egyptian soldiers and have them surrender. At that time, Israeli soldiers already built two bridges across the dead Sea to gain access into Egypt, Kill numerous soldiers and were advancing towards Cairo before a cease fire was called for by the UN. That cease fire prevented the destruction of Cairo just the way Damascus was destroyed

You're obviously completely biased. Look at how you subtly left out the most important events in the war - the Americans. How America negotiated a ceasefire and at the same time planning strikes with Israel etc. Russia didn't get involved initially because though they supplied the Egyptians before the war, they were kicked out of Egypt as a result of some misunderstanding. Had they not intervened, America was ready to wipe Egypt out of the earth. America didn't only send weapon, American special forces and pilots also participated in the war.

The American airlift - the Nickel Grass changed the course of the war. And Egypt attacked the Israeli stronghold and dismantled it in 6 hours - google it. And the arrangement to return all the ceased land was reached in 1973 although it took some time to finalize.

huptin:
Story! when did this happen? Only terrorists like you are aware of it because no where in history is it recorded! Taqqiyah is the only way you people sustain your ignorance.

You Israeli asslickers are deluded. What concerns an atheist with Taqqiyah? You never heard because you're blinded by religious affiliation. I hate Islam more than anything else in the world and I believe Islam is a cancer to the world. Religion itself is a disease but Islam is the most infectious of them all - perhaps, Judaism would be as infectious but the fact that they don't have the number and have a doctrine of superiority.

And guess what? My hatred of Islam will not blind me from speaking facts because I'm not emotionally attached to the whole thing. Google the 6 hours war or October war and the operation nickel grass

huptin:
In 1948, when Isreal was just a day old in their current location, Egypt alongside 5 other arab nations fought Israel, they were soundly defeated in 6 days! No be by mouth, the Jews are blessed.

Turkey and Iran can try it also...no one is holding them. Moslems are known for empty chest beating, no one takes you guys seriously.

But in 1973, it took Egypt 6 hours to destroy Israeli stronghold and was sustaining their gains when America made the biggest and largest military aid airlift ever made in human history - that was what it took to turn around the fight. Still Egypt still achieved their goal and took their land back.

Without America, only Egypt will clear Israel. It seems you guys are not informed

Jealousy

These are some of the dumbest reasons why anyone should reconsider anything. Only very shallow people would care about any of these stuffs

Salewa97:
Jonathan is a patriot.

Both Jonathan and Ijaw people have moved on. But some miriyan from the state of Biafla are still bitter about 2015 loss.

God bless Jonathan
God bless Ijaw people
God bless the patriotic people of Nigeria

He's not a patriot. Neither is he a hero. He knew what was in store for Nigeria if APC comes in, but he as simply didn't want to be the hero in case the battle becomes too hard for him. He only saved his head nothing special about that

He should have stayed out of Nigerian polity completely after he failed to make an attempt save Nigeria when he had the opportunity. Now he's romancing with the cult that conspired to destroy Nigeria, this makes him complicit

Yaradua and Goodluck were not ethnic leaders. How many Ijaws did Goodluck appoint into juicy positions?

I would do the same. Nothing beats living i n a free society. Money is not everything

That evil always wins. There's only a few exception

This is a new low for Nairaland

When David Hundeyin revealed this on the day of the launch, hr was called names by APC apologists

superCleanworks:
No matter how good the Nigerian economy becomes, it will not change the EASY MONEY mentality, greed, laziness and HOE NATURE that is prevalent here. Even women married to rich men living in comfortable homes still spread their legs like a COMPASS in a math-set.

You obviously don't know what you're saying

Hesbollah alone will give you a bloody nose and you want to attack Iran? American gives you the mind to think you can destroy Iran? If America doesn't send troops, I'm 100% sure Israel will be a walk over for Iran

nomolos92:
You keep parroting this your "arabized" rhetorics to the extent that it moved from being funny to stupid, Palestinians never made this your dumb claim of not being Arabs at anytime, you're the one desperately attempting to shove the nonsense narrative down gullible people's throat, it's highly ridiculous

How many Palestinians do you know personally? I've got lots of Palestinian friends including dating some in Europe. Quit getting involved in something bigger than you

Morphinne:
Typical f@@ls’ defense when they start running out of points. Firstly, you resorted to insult instead of countering what you read with facts then secondly, you failed to answer the questions I asked and rather than answering them for everyone to see, you had to do exactly like the eediot that you are, started asking us to go search online (typical f@@ls’ tactics)
We don’t have access to the internet, please kindly summarize the answers here for us or shut up forever.
I won’t stoop to your level so I’ll let the insult slide but please, counter the argument with facts rather than calling other people your family name. Thank you.
Palestinians are 100% Arabians.

What exactly do you want me to answer? These dumb questions or ignorant claims?

For example?


Nobody is saying they aren’t Semites just like the Jews and Arabs but please be guided my friend, modern Palestinians are 100% Arabs as far back as 1947 at least but that’s not even the point. Palestinians are now 100% Arabic unlike the Iranian Persian people who are often mistaken for Arabs because of their Islamic identity.
Again, historical facts such as the names given to cities in Palestine and Isreal today are mostly Hebrew-derived.
What’s the language spoken by the Palestinians if they aren’t Arabic ?


Listen to yourself. Keep parroting Palestinians are Arabic from the figment of your imagination. Even when I tried to educate you earlier, you keep parroting the same falsehood. Palestinians have been Arabized that doesn't make them Arab. Arab is used for everyone in the middle east that's Muslim and belong to the Arab league but they all have their individual identity. Palestine spoke Aramaic and Hebrew as well as they're all Canaanite languages. Do you understand the concept of acculturation or you're too dumb to understand that?


What’s the Palestinian root/meanings of cities such as Tel Aviv and Jerusalem (pronounced Yerushalayim/Yerushalem)
If Tel Aviv and Jerusalem are name given by the Jews, isn’t it straight forward that the Jews got there first?
If the Palestinians were the first settlers, they should have cities named by them and in their language.


The cities are not named in Hebrew specifically but in Canaanite languages which Hebrew is a part of. Ancient Israelites and Palestinians/Samaritans spoke very similar languages that were mostly intelligible. Jerusalem is not English but the Anglicized form of the Aramaic word Yerusalem or the Hebrew word Yerushalami etc.



Thirdly, why did/are the Arab world fighting in their support if they aren’t Arabs like them ?
My friend, forget anthropology and ethnology, the modern-day Palestinians are now 100% Arabs sir



The above is the dumbest of all. I don't know where to start educating this level of thinking. Ignorance can be cured but I don't think it would be easy to try to cure dumbness

Morphinne:
Nobody is saying they aren’t Semites just like the Jews and Arabs but please be guided my friend, modern Palestinians are 100% Arabs as far back as 1947 at least but that’s not even the point. Palestinians are now 100% Arabic unlike the Iranian Persian people who are often mistaken for Arabs because of their Islamic identity.
Again, historical facts such as the names given to cities in Palestine and Isreal today are mostly Hebrew-derived.
What’s the language spoken by the Palestinians if they aren’t Arabic ?
What’s the Palestinian root/meanings of cities such as Tel Aviv and Jerusalem (pronounced Yerushalayim/Yerushalem)
If Tel Aviv and Jerusalem are name given by the Jews, isn’t it straight forward that the Jews got there first?
If the Palestinians were the first settlers, they should have cities named by them and in their language.
Thirdly, why did/are the Arab world fighting in their support if they aren’t Arabs like them ?
My friend, forget anthropology and ethnology, the modern-day Palestinians are now 100% Arabs sir

I'm dumb founded by this comment. I've never seen ignorance packed and jumbo together in a single comment. You have internet, why not research if you didn't already know anything about a place you've decided to discuss as an expert? Well, the question that preceded your claims says it all - I thought I was quoting an intelligent folk

nomolos92:
If Palestinians are not Arabs then those we have there now are illegal migrants from Jordan and Egypt, they have no culture, religion and language that can be traced back to the Canaanites like the Israelis that still have their language and religion well preserved, you have no reasonable point at all.

Stop being a joke. Do you know what is called acculturation? I mentioned that they were Arabized. Morocco was Arabized, Algeria was Arabized, Egypt was Arabized, Tunisia was Arabized etc - all these are very large countries with several millions of people yet their ancient Berber way of life is almost going extinct . Compare that with Palestine with only a few million in population and kept under perpetual disunity by invading forces - the Romans, the Byzantines, the Ottomans, the Arabs, the British etc why act like they were the only one to get Arabized
You guys should use your brains before jumping to conclusion

Morphinne:
Thank you, the best way to diplomatically claim the lands was to agree to the two-states-resolution offered by the UN and the USA. We can’t deny the fact that Jews already existed in that land before the coming of the Arabs. It’s historically their land and in 1948, they didn’t intend to claim all the land because Jerusalem was not even in Isreal at the time, it was in Palestine and it’s the site of the great Al-Aqsa mosque (a place that would have been demolished or converted if the table was turned I.e if the Arabs were the powerful Jews)
The Jews preserved this ancient temple and never claimed Jerusalem until the Arab world decided to wage that war thinking they would easily annihilate this small newly formed country.
That ill-thought war led to the loss of more lands (Gaza, Jerusalem, Golan Heights and many more lands)
Today, these same Palestinians are now crying for that same 2-state-solution but under the condition that Isreal gives up Jerusalem, Syrian Golan height and Gaza.
These conditions are hard in this age and time as any land you lose as a result of war is never easily gotten back (ilorin is a very close example) The Yorubas will never smell the seat of tradition leadership of Ilorin till Jesus comes and it’s not the Fulanis fault, it’s international law and conventions.

Firstly, Palestinians are not Arabs - they're referred to as Arabs because of Islam that got them Arabized. Palestinians and Jews are Canaanites. Same way the Jews got Europeanized is the same way the Palestinians got Arabized - but the Jews didn't lose their religion that's the only difference. If the Bible is your point of reference in this matter, you'll always get it wrong. If you follow the Bible, then Israelites are not Canaanites and are land grabbers - but that's not the case.

On the issue of that place being the Jewish homeland 2000 years ago, what doesn't international law say concerning that?

Morphinne:
The Arab world are silent on this matter for an obvious reason I’m not siding with anyone here but don’t just come online and start ‘yarning’ dust. This 70plus-year-old crisis would have been averted if the Arabs hadn’t fought that 6 day war and the subsequent wars they fought in the wake of the 1948 birth of Isreal. They should have gone diplomatic about it rather than thinking that killing off these zionists was the best idea. I took your land (though, it’s historically mine) but instead of reclaiming the land from me, you waged massive war and decided to kill me but missed in the process. Also in the process, I seized more of your lands (Golan heights, Jerusalem and Gaza) as punishment for trying to kill me and ever since then, you’ve been withdrawing 1k with 5k and have always wanted the world to start sympathizing with you while ignoring the fact that you started it. The latest attacks by Hamas this month is another testament to this foolery by the Palestinians and the ppl sympathizing with them. Were those Jews killed not humans? Na animal dem be? Are Arabs’ lives more precious than those of the Jews?

From your submission, how else can they take back the land apart from killing them off?

Daystar7:
Fifid imagination shaa wan kill una😂... Na u go tell ur enemy wetin him go use fight u for war? U think say na wrestling entertainment? Egypt na Israel bitch! No be today e begin Bleep am. The highest is that Israel 'll apologize and every body 'll move on. Egypt don't want no part in Hamas madness and Israel certainly meant them no harm. Una shaa wan wake hear say Israel don kpai pata pata but that wan na only for dream e go happen 😅

Just google about operation nickel grass. The Egyptian almost exterminated the Jews in 1973. The Jews always owe their existence to the United States - this is a fact

nomolos92:
Nothing shaky at all, Israel has dealt with Egypt very well and even returned the annexed Sinai peninsula to them, their peace deal is well established

You obviously don't know the history of how the Sinai was restored to Egypt you wouldn't have mentioned this.

dappydozzy:
Thanks for educating him, the guy lives by the news, when you dont understand or not well versed in world history, you cant analyse global events. You will be basking in euphoria of hearing the news, no knowing you know nothing.

You Israel ass lickers are the dumbest I've ever seen. In all Israelis-Egypt wars, Egypt always pound Israel things only turn around when the US states in. For example, had the US not step in to support Israel in 1973, Egypt was about to clear them out of the surface of the earth. You guys overestimate Israel. They owe their existence to the United States.

Daystar7:
If only you knew that America is just an extension of Israel, Israel rules the world by proxy through America. Israel is behind every weapon, science and technology in America. They own the largest corporation in America and influence their politics to an extent. Israel dependent on aid? America send weapons to Israel built by Israelis. Israel 'll disappear within one month? God's own country? As in people wey God don use Him hand punish tire? Do you know the kind of hardship this people have survived? America be world power is thanks to Israel. I'll allow you to wallow in ur delusion. Enjoy. Imagination is free!

We're not here for conspiracy theories. I talked fact and here you are spewing conspiracy

People underestimate Egyptian military. It's very funny because only few countries have a stronger Air force than Egypt. Air force to air force, Egypt will IAF of the Israelis.

Daystar7:
Fifid imagination wan kill this one 😂. Egypt is Israel bitch to begin with asides that they have cordial relationship and Israel admitted thier mistake and apologized, Africa 'll never join Egypt in war, Egypt is not a member of BRICS, u no know wetin u dey talk and Israel no need America to defeat the entire middle East. Lastly the weakest of America can't be defeated by a bunch of Islamic uncircumcised head slamming paedophilic rag tag terrorist countries. Change ur plug abeg

Everything you said is true except your claim that Israel doesn't need America to win the middle east. Check your facts, America spend hundreds of millions in aids to support Israel. They send high calibre weapons and support their economy with hundreds of billions. If America stop support for Israel, I Israel will disappear from the surface of the earth within one month.

If it were not so, why is america spending hundreds of billions to secure Israel? Israel is not self sufficient and they're the highest aid recipient from any country in the world. There existence is 100% dependent on american aids

Head slammers and Zionists - two terrorist religions. Let the stronger terrorist win

So the Niger Delta that has been sustaining Nigeria can't survive without allocation?

MASTERCHIEF0847:
Please read my comment again, it i did not base it solely on oil prices but you cannot take out the fact that that was during an era of oil boom worldwide and every oil producing nation benefited from increased revenues so its a factor oga.
I also made emphasis on his good economic team and policies.
In reality, all the governments since 1999 have all failed so personally am not giddy about any.

How much was oil selling and how much is it selling now?