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DieVluit:
The way it is being what exactly?

So how are they mentored?

They come back and say: "Oga white man, guess what we saw today? Boko haram were like this and like that..."

And the oga white man says: "Go back and do it like this and like that"

Really? In Chris's "high-intensity" war - there is time for that? Rubbish.

you are just an ignoramus trolling on a thread you know nothing about.

in the recent battles that saw AMISOM troops take alshabab strongolds, there were PMCs mentoring these men on the battlefield.

it's an old military strategy only fools like you think is impossible.

stop trolling. maybe you might learn a thing or two

DieVluit:
It's simple:

Executive Outcomes is/was a company, which means only one thing:

It's executives's ability to keep getting business means they are able to get the tools of business they need.

One of the tools being men to engage in combat. They did it in Sierra Leone. They are doing it in Nigeria.

Sources of men: SADF, SAPS, even SANDF.

Weak one-track thinking on your side - to be expected though.

Again - a 60 year-old can fly a sortie.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/13/world/africa/nigerias-fight-against-boko-haram-gets-help-from-south-african-mercenaries.html?_r=0

A senior Western diplomat confirmed that the South Africans were playing “a major operational role,” particularly at night. Equipped with night-vision goggles, the mercenaries “are whacking them in the evening hours,” the diplomat said.

A 60-year old can do that.

bwahahahahaha.... now that these rats have realized their koevet veterans are too old for combat, they have come up with a new one. SANDF members.. bwahahahahahahaha.

yeah sure... a 60 year old can still be combat efficient. good one mate. #troll

patches689:
South African mercenaries are more and more commonly composed of former members of SAPS and the SANDF - they could have been in uniform a couple of months ago

The worlds most famous mercenary gained notoriety at the age of 46 - Mad Mike Hoare

no. south african mercs are more composed of SADF and SAPS members who refused to stay in and serve the post apartheid government.

don't come with your white lie of them being members of the AIDS ridden SANDF. you guys are getting deaperate.

again. you are a bloody liar. mike hoare was born in 1920 and made his mark from 1960-64 in congo nefore retiring to civilian life. patches, that is 40-44 years. and he was not trained in SA. he was in the british army and settled in SA after the war.

even at rhe age of 56 he only played an advisory role in the seychelles coup.

your bush war veterans are too old for combat. period. don't try to spin it with your usual lies

DieVluit:
Flying sorties at night can easily be done by an experienced 60 year old.

And reports clearly state the mercenaries would wipe hectares of land at night and the NA rolls in to claim the glory in the morning.

In any case lots of young mercenaries are known to have been fighting in Sierra Leone? Why not Nigeria?

Weak argument.

yeah, sierra leon of more than 15 years ago. young? how young? 30+ young?

so SA mercs don't age? you're right... weak argument. see what trolling has done to your reasoning.

Thiza:
The South African Mercenaries who rescued the pride of Nigeria

lol... old men above 60 still in combat? we hear you.

Henry120:
Okay.

i thought you were going to waste your time with the troll.

saengine:
Why do i sense panic from your end? Not all whites are South African correct....but that has absolutely nothing to do with answering my question. How would one group of SA men working in one sector of Nigeria be able to confirm or deny the numbers of South Africans working in another sector? Particularly if both groups want to be secretive? So you can erase/delete/destroy the last part of that article.


Not all whites are South African, and not all South African mercenaries come from our military. Special Task Force police unit is another source of highly sought after PMC, for example. Your argument about age is invalid since you don't know where those SA men originate from (within SA)

lol... your IQ is quite low my brother.

so a group of mercs were brought in by a contractor/company, and sent to their various AOR. doea that mean the mercs have not been briefed and know what and how many is on ground before being posted? do you even know anything about the military or you just like to keep yourself busy here?

Your attempt to bring in the special task force even proves you are the panicky one. so now we agree your bush war veterans are unfit for combat then. case closed. nice attempt brah... come up with another one.

i wonder how you managed to scale through school. (that's if you went at all)

ukemeramat:
(you don't sound like an experienced militant. i've met them) i know it felt like u were in heaven wen u did! i have nothing to prove to you boy!

lol... this clown is something else.

don't bother. you've tried to prove it and failed #Faker

DieVluit:
A completely made-up statement. A thumb-suck.

a very intelligent and insightful reaponse. welldone

ukemeramat:
u r right bros, but i only gave that as instance...your response smells of experience and is well articulated. now u now understand my anger with our military... the problem startd with our politicians...i had first hand experience of what our military has turned into back in the creeks..before the come to us, their generals sabotage them alot but the guys are really brave

oga, stop claiming what you are not. the Niger delta crisis problems is not secret. everyone knew the level of sabotage the army faced then and they still faced it in the north until the saboteurs were weeded out and court marshalled.

you don't sound like an experienced militant. i've met them and you don't sound like one. period. #faker

saengine:
That "true" story being South Africans in Nigeria are not simply mechanics as people here have been saying. They are embeded with Nigerian troops. Which is what we've been saying all along.

Beegeagle has been wrong with his "impecible" sources before. It is you who said Nigeria had Mk V and not Mk III vehicles, based on the likes of Beegeagle and his "impecible" sources. And guess what....Mk III seen on the front.

Last thing....how would one group of South African mercanies operating in one section of the front line be able to confirm total number of merc currently in Nigeria? They cant. They know only what is in their immediate area. So you can delete the latter part of that article.

mr man... not all whites are south african. stop trying to fool yourself. their are other contractors in the country and SA ones are just a handfull of them.

the president also admitted there also are south koreans, czech, ruasians and ukrainians on ground. Nigeria has REVA mk v, so beeg is still right with his sources. he had access to south african PMC beecause he has contacts that can connect him(colonel Eben).

and lastly, SA mercs are old and unfit for combat in such a high intensity war. Iraq was more than 10 years ago.

you south africans are just too dull to understand the simplest things

ukemeramat:
social media can really empower people ooo like this one .... enjoy urself

yeah... i see an internet tough guy here.. keep building dem muscles with that keyboard chief

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Msauza:
That is not the true story, just ask Beegeagle to inquire colonel Eben why are foreigners bulking up in Nigeria on a large scale, some of whom are not linked to arms industries to can train Nigeria on any weapon. What are they doing there and how sure is he if they are not being used as secret weapons that kill Boko haram.

Nigeria in the past refused AU assistance and has told international media that Nigeria's problems must be solved by Nigerians and now why are foreigners with white skins massing up on their land. Foreigners whom majority of them have previously served as mercenaries in Iraq, an example would be that of Leon Lotz. Nigeria can continue with their agenda of fooling people through propaganda, but they will not fool all the people all the time and that one person is me.

only a drunk would imagine a 59 year old to still go into combat in such a high intensity war.

why would he inquire more from Eben when he has been connected with a PMC on ground? the way you reason at times sef.

like lotz, SA mercs of bush war veterans are old and unfit for combat. they can only act in advisory roles and other services. damn! colonel Eben himself is above 60. so you want to tell me if he is invited by the government it means he will be engaged in combat too?

there are also Ukrainian contractors on ground. abeg, why will we hire ukrainians to fight insurgency when they haven't succeeded in their own country? or is every white in the world a south african?

it's a no brainer dude. you south africans are just like toddlers. you need to be spoon fed with even the simplest things.

saengine:
https://beegeagle./2015/03/18/boko-haram-and-mercenaries-in-borno-the-myth-the-reality-hearing-it-from-a-pmc-operative/#comment-86734


Interesting

beegeagle is a very close friend to colonel Eben. so it's very easy for him to have access to these guys.

now you know the true story.

ukemeramat:
@stillchris @NijaPikiGidi this one is for u doubting thomas

ode. you claimed the chadian infantry uses tricked out AKs, not special forces. don't go jumping up and down. you are still an ignoramus

shall we also show pics of AK74s, Tavors used by our own special forces as well.

show us photos of chadian soldiers using tricked out AKs as you claimed. olodo

Patchesagain:
How are you not understanding this?

SANDF does light maintenance on equipment, and some heavy maintenance on small number of equipment, heavy maintenance on large numbers of equipment is outsourced to private companies - this is cheaper than keeping large numbers of specialist personnel on the SANDF pay-roll

The deal with the Cubans is an even cheaper option as they can perform the same repairs as private companies for less and at the same time assist with the training

Read what I posted again, SANDF is not doing anything different, it is simply choosing the cheaper alternative

lemme get this straight.. when you say light maintenance, i hope it's about just changing oil and adding fuel.

because the picture of the cuban mechanic i see working on your truck doesn't look like heavy maintenance and your fat minister also exposed the lack of skilled engineers in SANDF.

"Dlamini said that private South African companies to whom work was outsourced were reluctant to pass on their skills to the SANDF and maintained military vehicles poorly. The Cubans, on the other hand, are experts at keeping equipment running despite sanctions and Cuba continues to enjoy good military relations with South Africa."

fact of the matter is that your army is short of skilled personel and broke.

that's why the cubans had to fly their army engineers(not private contractors) to maintain your vehicles for you and save you from paying private contractors to milk the remaining change your army has left.

in peace time for that matter... damn shame

ukemeramat:
am on ground, i dont depend on blogs... have u ever fire a gun boat before in your life!!! thats how i ball then!!! warri ! warri!! pikin flew!!

sure, you are one of those illiterate creek boys. i get it now. no wonder!!

abeg show us the chadian soldiers and their assesorized AKs you claimed oooooo.... #faker

ukemeramat:
ok bros, i dont deal on pix, i do real life

bwahahahahahahahaha...... run along... ignoramus

patches689:
We can and do look after trucks.

The Cubans provide a cheaper and more effective solution than private companies who did it in the past

are you ttrying to say SANDF army engineers are not well trained or too daft to maintain your equipments?

you do realize the cubans you hired are from their army engineers and not private firn.

dull army.

These south african rats are so stup1d it makes me wonder sometimes.

they insult us for hiring trainers to help with equipments we are not familiar with, while SANDF had to bring in cuban mercs to help them fix trucks they've had for years

their fat minister was right. there is shortage of skilled personel in SANDF.

DictatorZAR:
Finally some1 with a balanced view.

only balance on your imbalanced head.

what's samil trucks got to do with rifles? the guy sounds like a typical pained opposition. we know them

ukemeramat:
i don't deal with internet touts too. i have been in battle front too with that stuff so i know what am talking about. when i SAY accessories,have u ever heard of maintenance kit, TDI style rail covers,Handguard and top rail RIS,heavy night-vision devices etc ?..... apply let me coach u on weaponry... u have a very bad habit on social media..

mr google soldier. don't juat run to google to give us stories.

show us the chadian soldiera with AK74 with the full assesories. we are waiting.

now this is a very insecure woman. i feel sorry for her

Henry120:
SANDF

abeg whats that MRAP in the last pic? anyone?

Patchesagain:
Or modern professional soldiers on foot patrol in the middle of afghanistan...

o... wait

this is your problem. you don't take time to underatand what you read (other people's comments). i thought you were doing this on purpose but now understand it's a problem. fix it

i told you such trainings are for patrols and recon missions, you disagree but blindly proved my point.

and those photos are special forces, not regular soldiers.

don't try to derail this thread with your ignorance/hatred.

dieantwordRSA:
Am leaving the office MduZA chaoo!!!!!!!

eyaaaah!!! you are not getting attention? sorry.

M14A1:
Lol comments on here tho.
Some persons feel soilders are robots who don't feel pain or fatigue
So if you are a military strategist you would turn your soilders to donkeys and make them march 10km with 100kg strapped on, into an actual battle that would probably last for 9hrs, because they are "SOILDERS"

Ok.

Don't mind them. You can see one of the soldiers in the first picture @patches posted is yawning. So he would still send that tired man to a full day combat. I just tire for these people

Patchesagain:
And how are they going to access their equipment in combat?

It seems you are trying to make excuses for a lack of standardized battle-dress and the lax dress regulations

what are you talking about. which photo or video have you seen Nigerian army personel of recent lacking standardized battle dress in combat? does it look like they left their equipments behind to you in that video? so what is wrong in walking light in harsh weather to the point of contact? have you been to any part of northern Nigeria before? what makes you think they won't get properly dressed when they dig in and are ready to engage?

you guys had your excuses when your troops took off their vests in CAR in a hostile area and aluded it to extreme heat. but will castigate our troops for doing the same while taking a long walk for a very different reason in a low risk route.

look at the last picture you posted. does that guy look like he is still able to enter combat for another four hours to you, or does he not look exhausted?

again, this is not a patrol or recon mission. go and find out from your trainers why such trainings exist.
this is real sh1t, not a photograph session

abeg my ogas in the house, no vex abeg. i will not comment again so i won't derail this lovely thread. it's obvious these south africans have mental issues regarding anything Nigeria.

"We learnt soldiers were coming. They advanced on
Bama on two fronts and met some resistance at
Boboshe and Yale but succeeded in crushing the Boko
Haram gunmen," said Bama resident Ibrahim Kyari.
news.yahoo.com/boko-haram-burns-nigerian-town-troops-advance-residents-213939762.html

these are the troops papa ajasco(mikeza) suggeated they carry 20kg load before engagement. dumb south africans.

oh.. and we hope @thiza will not write another long epistle of how their mechanics are involved in this.

one after the other the lies of the so called respected media will be exposed. i only pity these south african fish brains


Nigerian troops have commenced counter terrorism assault in
damasak,a Nigeria-Niger border town.
According to PRNigeria,reports that surfaced last week about
chadian troops recapturing damasak and malam fatori from
boko haram was confirmed to be false.
A Nigerian senior military official has confirmed that troops are currently routing boko haram from damasak.
Earlier this week,Chad withdrew its soldiers from Nigerian
border towns back into fotokol in cameroon after suffering
severe humiliation from boko haram terrorists.Chad has been
suspected of sabotaging nigeria's effort against boko
haram,yet it enjoys public support and admiration while churning out devastating propaganda.
.http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/military-battles-boko-
haram-for-border-town-of-damasak/204150

MikeCZAR:
Yes, but not those part of the SADF.

It was done by units like koevoet.

still south africa.

or was koevet Nigerian? papa ajasco.