₦airaland Forum

oluztx:
Op just say Southwest people now build with bamboo. Stop dragging people from/in the SE and SS in your self inflicted misery and suffering.

No single Southwest name was mentioned in the report.

What is puzzling me is why you seem to be offended and already putting up tribal defences where non was mentioned?

What is the correlation between the news as reported and whether people from SE who need to mention SS to feel complete, are enduring misery or suffering?

successmatters:
From the tone of the letter, he must have ordered the burning of innocent civilians houses.

Your hateful schemes would not bring about the electoral victory of the one you support.

Let them continue with their policies so that Africans and Nigerians especially can stop siphoning money from their own country that has a poorly funded education system.

ehikwe22:
He's making sense? Average income in Nigerian households is 800k - 1.2m?

I never told you about average income.

I told you about a good pay in Nigeria versus a good pay in the UK.

Anyone earning £4500 (above £50,000 pa), is earning a good pay in the UK, just as many young Nigerians earning above N800k (above N10m pa) are also earning well.

Don't even begin with the foolish lie that only a few earn well in Nigeria. Everybody cannot earn well but those who cross that benchmark I defined are many.

So if the UK, can be bold enough to charge a university session fee that is about 2months salary of those who earn well, while we are charging a session tuition fee that is less than the monthly pocket money that most students with working parents get, then is it not obvious that our education is heavily subsidised?

In the mid 2000s to circa 2013, when tuition fees in Unilag was less than N20k, only those that can be classified as indigent students did not get monthly pocket money from their parents that was not more than a whole year tuition fees.

I repeat, let us continue to charge money for family outing to Mega Chicken as session tuition fees, while our tertiary education system is in comatose.

When we are ready to get serious, we will admit that nothing good comes cheap.

adioolayi:
Firstly, Ibadan was originally a War Camp by Various Yoruba Warriors...and so, there is no real leader among these warriors.

It is in their wisdom to make every sons of Ibadan a Royal Blood. In other words, every son of Ibadan is entitled to the throne.

Because a family or some families have decided to be the ruling class of a community and the people agreed to that kind of arrangement doesn't make their stool superior to this system.

In Ibadan Land ..every son is a royal blood!

You are still asserting the same thing with me.

Where everyone is royalty, it means there is no royalty distinctive from the general population.

Yes there is a ruling aristocracy which are the chiefs, but everyone has equal rights to become part of that aristocracy.

zuchyblink:
Pay Nigerians like UK and increase tuition fees like UK. In a country where minimum wage per month is less than 15 pounds sterling

No one is saying Nigerians should pay as high a school fees as it exist in the UK.

But did you take note that many professionals in the UK, cannot even earn half of £9200 pounds as monthly salary in that UK?

Do you know what it means to be on a monthly salary of £4500 in the UK? You are paid well. So, don't think a local student tuition fee of £9200 is some chicken change you just remove from your monthly salary. Your parents would have to save up and plan towards it many years ahead. Like in the US, it is even from birth that parents start saving up their children's university fees.

To equate it to Nigeria, that Nigerian who can earn N800k to N1.2m monthly salary, should have been able to pay annual university school fees of about N1. 6m to N2m when he or she was a student.

That is what is the Nigerian equivalent to the UK fees. Not an exchange rate matter, but the worth of the fees to a good salary after graduation within the same national economy.

The problem with Nigeria is that a family where mother is earning N800k and father is earning N1.5m monthly salary, still think that the university fees for their kids should be removable from any particular month salary, instead of something you save up and plan towards.

We want to spend the same money used for family outing to Mega Chicken, to pay university tuition fees.

Now many in Nigeria are against the hike in tuition fees that is still not up to money the family is spending on monthly shopping.

Let us continue deceiving ourselves.

ehikwe22:
Education is not subsidized in Nigeria - it's sub standard. I doubt that you've ever stepped your foot out of Nigeria

It is substandard yet you used it to get jobs abroad at same pay with the citizens who schooled there, while your citizen colleagues at work are still paying the student loans that funded the degree they obtained to share the same intellectual space with you?

Dude, I have travelled the world and also benefited from foreign education.

But we must put an end to the denial of funds to our own education system by "poor and suffering" Nigerians that seem to be able to afford greatly higher school fees abroad.

This is the session school fee charges for UK (EU) citizens. Even students from EU countries paid similar fees until the brexit.

This has changed over the years while foreign non-EU students like Africans and Asians have paid much more for each of those fee regimes.

I remember reading in the Economist magazine in 2006 when the undergraduate fees were to increase from £1200 to £3000 for UK citizens, that was the time that foreigners then had to pay about £8000 to £12,000 for undergraduate session fees depending on the university, compared to the £3000 for local students.

By the time the fees for local students moved to £9000, foreign students were paying upwards of £13,000 to £18,000 for undergraduate fees.

What is very evident is that, without foreign students paying such fees, the universities would have to charge the local students more.

I hope the UK authorities would continue with their anti-immigration policies for the benefit of developing countries like Nigeria that keep losing university funds to the UK.

UK should brace up to start paying for their own education without subsidy from Asia and Africa.

This academic year, at least 15 universities in the UK have announced job cuts and additional cost-saving measures to save finances.
Earlier in March, more than 120 staff at Sheffield Hallam University were served with "risk of redundancy" letters, which gave them until 18 March to apply for voluntary redundancy or one of a "limited number of roles". The University of Kent in February proposed to cut 58 jobs along with nine courses in an attempt to respond to "financial challenges".
Due to a freeze in tuition fees, most universities have covered their costs by enrolling overseas students, who pay far more than domestic students.

Any country with sound economic security unlike Nigeria, would have design policies that would prevent a situation where it's allegedly suffering citizens who have earned money locally are spending more on education abroad than the budget of its own tertiary education system.

Lol

Without good funding, any country's tertiary education system will be in financial turmoil.

"poor and suffering" Nigerians whose parents work for the best companies in Nigeria, have been going abroad to study with funds earned in Nigeria and removed from the Nigerian economy, and depriving the Nigerian tertiary education system.

"poor and suffering" Nigerians who enjoyed a subsidised undergraduate education in Nigeria, secure good jobs in Nigeria and use it to raise funds to go for post graduate courses abroad,
without any benefit to the Nigerian economy or
our own education system.

Let us keep subsiding the education for UK and Canada with our Nigerian funds and economy, while our own keep rotting away with students and parents protesting and insisting that session school fees should remain N20k in the federal Universities - even cheaper than the federal Polytechnics.

alingo2013:
THEY NEED PRAYERS FOR THAT THORNE

Nothing like that.

Just as some Cardinals do not become Pope until they are also nearing death, so do not live long after that, so is the case with Ibadan, where the oldest among the chiefs in terms of membership, become the next Olubadan.

The oldest membership would most times also inadvertently mean oldest age and nearing death.

Let me call them.

Bestman09

Irenejane

Kukutente23

Twoclans:
I am curious to know what happened to those that stayed for a few months .Maybe I will make out time and go and read this history .

They were already nearing death when they ascended the succession line to the very top.

In responding to a post that appreciated the hierarchical system that has over many years been employed by Ibadan to determine the Olubadan succession, I asserted that it was not a real royal stool but a Baale system - wasn't that even very obvious going by the method of succession where any one who has been appointed a chief of Ibadan becomes part of the succession line?

StOla:
Because it is a "Baale" system.

Olubadan is not a real royal stool.

In a Baale system, there is nothing like royal family or royal blood. The oldest chief takes over and the cycle continue. Nothing is inherited by any royal blood as it does not exist.

So I repeat that the Olubadan is not a real royal stool. It is a system of government of its own by a governing aristocracy that does not hold hereditary titles or previledges, and the most senior member of this governing aristocracy not by age but by membership in the aristocracy, become the next in line for succession.

Some ignorant fellows quoted me to cuss and insult. A few quoted and showed they were quite informed about this origin of Ibadan

I did not respond to any of them.

For the ignorant ones, I hope this topic which is not even from me, would inadvertently show them they are ignorant.

Among the first 23 Rulers, many had the title Baale being dominant up till 1930.

The Olubadan appellation only came up from 1930.

Politics can always forge a way ahead.

thesicilian:
Irrespective of the public sentiments and the fact that Nigerian police are mostly incompetent, they are not wrong in this case. That's if their version of the story is true.
When police tell you to stop you stop. Otherwise you face the consequences. It's the same even in the USA.

I was surprised no one was willing to give the police a benefit of doubt.

Yet we want police to fight armed robbers and kidnappers, but condemn them for following up on a suspicious report.

If the Police version is true, I do not blame the Lawyer who knew what he was getting into, as he must have had a lot of cash on him to pay the kidnappers, hence why he did not comply with the police directive.

The lawyer was in a bad place that just wasn't going to get better if he had waited.

He took the risk and the outcome though unlucky for him, is standard procedure for the poorly trained Nigeria Police Force who would rather kill than be killed.

OK!

Wike is enjoying his partnership with Tinubu.

adioolayi:
I so much love this system...

No unnecessary drama..

Everyone on queue...

You know person Infront of you and the person behind you...

You die...the rows automatically shifts forward

Can you imagine till date, OYO has not installed the New Alaafia...they still have loads of issues to settle..

Not and Never in Ibadan...Olubadan passes on...the next one is already known.

Because it is a "Baale" system.

Olubadan is not a real royal stool.

Felabrity:
Who made it legal werey?

Are you sure you are not an illiterate?

adioolayi:
Many won't still read to understand the big quagmire this Nation is into...

Atiku Bagudu has taken his time to explain...it's for us to now call for holistic approach to stopping this menace..

All these noise will not stop the NASS from doing same thing in the coming year..except they are stopped by the court or by a bill they themselves will pass to stop themselves..


One wonders why the PDP and especially Atiku are finding their voices on what they know appears to be a very dark and selfish norm at the NASS!

There are loads of nonsense in 1999 constitution.

The problem is political mischief while counting on the illiteracy of many educated Nigerians to brew a storm in a tea cup.

I shame for many Nigerians who lack basic common sense, not to talk of rational thought.

This matter is a waste of time.

Abilistic:


IT IS FINISHED

Nothing is finished.

Stop reacting like a Chemical compound and cure your ignorance.

A ticket hunter probably returning to his Base Camp.

Bebigiby1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5M9_HdQyQg

Nigeria and Argentina were facing the same issues in 2023, high inflation, budget deficit etc. In just 3 months of coming to power Javier Milei has made tremendous progress, curbing inflation and achieving a budget surplus since 12 years while Tinubu continues his predecessor‘s legacy of wasteful spending, bloated budgets, tribalism, nepotism, looting and corruption….

Na statistics we go chop?

Even the people of Argentina may be deriding their own country and also quoting the positive statistics that has come out of Nigeria and reported by foreign and international organs.

I ask again, na statistics Diego and Lopez go chop for Argentina?

gashiwalesman:
A ranking senator, handling issue of national security in such a manner should know better! He didn't raise that issue at the plenary, how it was convenient to first share such weighty matters on BBC radio programme than the senate floor smells mischief... Senators are bound by ethics and standard guidelines...

The EFCC should scrutinize the budget to find any fowl play... I don't trust Akpabio and Tinubu.

God blessed you with commonsense.

Great!

These games have had very poor reportage.

I repeat, that this kidnappers when caught should be quartered after a week of merciless torture.

A mischief maker and enemy of the state cannot be trusted with anything sensitive.

Besides, all the ignorant minds above have forgotten that a suspended senator cannot be chairing any committee while still suspended.

Nothing significant here.

OK!

Same news already graced the front page.

If this does not happen, then this man must be sacked.

Great!

I also wondered how the Executive was going to singlehandedly amend the provisions of the current Act that were already mentioned to be adjusted, such as some of the eligibility requirements.

I repeat, stop subsidising University education. Basic education (literacy) must be free as a right, but tertiary education must be charged, with Universities being the highest tuition fees.

University education is not by force. Everyone must not be a university graduate for the country to develop.

Charge freely as needed to better run the universities.

Nigerians have money to spend on UK and US education, so let them spend it here in Nigeria with improved facilities.

Kyari just like Buhari do not know anything about politics or political organizing.

Then as it affects Tinubu, that political titan is always 10steps ahead of his adversaries.

The only way to have stopped Tinubu is to stop democratic politics.