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godisgood200:
Lolzzzzz, wait and grow up first, know about issues before you stand to criticize them, because, if you are taken head long on this, you'll be swallowed up.
And, whether you mention the firends name or not, as long as you brought his leg out, you are not his friend.

So people who put their marital problems online for advice are not good spouses abi?


Your logic is reetarded

Ubenedictus:
the guardian clearly adds "in confession" which is absent from the op, the guardian also quotes the bishop correctly and the op doesn't.



of course a criminal should not go unpunished but the Church is not an arm of the police nor is privileged information a place to go snooping. the law doesn't require lawyers to report the crimes of their client nor should priests be forced to report sins penitent confessed to God that is privileged information, gat it?

Lawyers are not expected to be moral. Preists are

Ubenedictus:
and even in the present time Protestants still engage in subtle lies.

this is what the guardian recorded the bishop saying


“I believe [confession] is an
absolute sacrosanct
communication of a higher
order that priests by nature
respect,” Hart said on Tuesday
morning.
“We are admitting a
communication with God is of
a higher order,” he said. “It is a sacred trust. It’s
something those who are not Catholics find hard to
understand but we believe it is most, most sacred
and it’s very much part of us.”


whereas you guys went and LIED about it saying the he said

Hart insisted that sexual abuse was “a spiritual
encounter with God through the priest” and was “of a
higher order” than criminal law.


can you see the lies and fake news or has bias blinded you

Mr man, here is the Guardian title in bold:

Melbourne archbishop says he'd rather go to jail than report child abuse heard in confession


And it is a fact. Why would one allow a child molester to go scott free?

sonofthunder:
simple question, what does the bible mean by redeem?

Ransom.......paying for something in return.

When has redeeming livestock and harvest with money turned to paying first fruit?


See how una pentecostal people dey lie?

butterflyl1on:
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There is only one universe oga. Stop spouting science fiction about other universes. The gasses, the energy, matter, rock formation are all responses to a command from the mouth of God. A website is a website. All the names such as forums or blogs etc do not stop them from being websites.

There is only one universe? lol. Can you prove that there is only one universe?

Oh, so you are saying that there is only one universe because we can only observe one universe. So you now only believe in things you can observe.

Yet, you adamantly state that God cannot be observed or seen.



Thanks for exposing your dishonest self.

Case closed

butterflyl1on:
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You fell into your own trap
God can be seun through his works and confirmed through his spirit given to all his children. Seen is a human being and many who seek to see him have not seen or heard him before same way many who seek God have seen his works and heard from him via his spirit.



Yes I know how the universe was created. Gods spoken word processed it's creation. Every other action that arose from that word was just to complete the already declared desire of God. We have one universe with many planets and stars etc (you can call them websites) Every website exists due to a host/server. No host/server, no website. No God, no universe.



As small as a website is it is simply a compilation of complex written codes. An unlearned fellow would see those codes as gibberish but would not deny the finished work when those codes are brought together. So is the universe. The process may look scattered but the end product is what is clear to see by all. Like I said, the universe came to be by Gods spoken word and the processes involved were simply responses to bring the end result



There is only one universe oga. Stop spouting science fiction about other universes. The gasses, the energy, matter, rock formation are all responses to a command from the mouth of God. A website is a website. All the names such as forums or blogs etc do not stop them from being websites.


Thanks for exposing your ignorance in advance.

Thanks for showing your ignorance and dishonesty as I predicted.

Just take a look at the things you wrote in bold.

First you say that God can be seen through his works- which means 2 things:

1) Apparently, God cannot be seen himself. Typical of any non-existent thing, you cannot see it.
2) You are assuming that God has works we can see. Unlike any website you can see who owns it. You can trace its origins and data by using a "whois" look up. Where is God's signature on his works? Seuns's name is on the website.


You mention that there is only one universe. How do you know? Oh, is it because we can only observe one? So you now only believe in things you can see or observe? LWKMD

Ubenedictus:
you are so quick to judge, you didn't even realise that this is fake news and no reputable news agency carried this bogus story

I have always known you to be a SLAVE of the catholic church. Here is a reputable source;

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/15/melbourne-archbishop-says-hed-rather-go-to-jail-than-report-child-abuse-heard-in-confession



In past times, you would have been a crusader.

sonofthunder:
the word redeem was used in several places... what do you think it means?

Keep quiet and stop trying to twist scriptures. There is no where in that chapter of leveticus that people were instructed to bring their first monetary income (shekels) as offerings. Emphasis on 'first'.

butterflyl1on:
Keep advertising your willful ignorance.

You think everyone is poor and poorly connected like yourself.

Those that personally know God through Jesus and the given Holy spirit will just be looking at you and laughing at your idiocy.



Using logic is not hard. God exists. We see Him through his spirit.

Only God creates a universe. No other living thing can. So we know that God created it.

Gods imprint can be seen in all of nature. God has even held conversations with His children about his word and creation.


How many universes do we know? God is not a physical being to be seen but his works are evident. We know how the universe was created. Dont you know how universes are created? No? You are a mere human being so cannot see God.


Some people just want to be daft

Thanks for falling into my trap.

Thanks for admitting that God cannot be seen. At least we can see and feel human beings. Seun is a human being and many have seen him.

Also, thanks for lying that you know how the universe was created. First, note that you didn't say the plural 'universes' because we only know one universe unlike websites which we know of millions.

Since you are comparing the creation of universes to the creation of websites, please list the stages how the universe was created in detail and the different ways in which a universe can be created.

A website can be created using different platforms. Joomla, wordpress, Drupal etc. First you need to buy a domain name and hosting........

So please tell me how a universe is first created. How is a universe created out of nothing? How does a big bang appear from a void that has no time or space? What separates one universe from the other? Websites can be differentiated by function or platforms.


Thanks for exposing your ignorance in advance.

butterflyl1on:
Hmm come to think of it. You do have a point. Seun could be anyone as atheists refer to God as god (which could be any god).

Yep nairaland just began to exist and was not designed or programmed

Yep seun has no voice as nobody can match his voice to his face if he at anytime decides to show one and not both.

Seun truly does not exist. I mean I see a moniker named seun make some posts but it may as well be anybody as monikers are not proof enough. So how can seun convince me that he exists?

Keep advertising your willful ignorance.

You think everyone is poor and poorly connected like yourself.

Those that personally know the Osewa family will just be looking at this thread and laughing at its idiocy.



Using logic is not hard. Human beings exist. We see ourselves.

Only humans build websites. No other living thing can. So we know that a human built it.

Seun's imprint can be seen on the bottom of the website. Seun has even done interviews about the website.


How many universes do we know? How many god's have we seen physically? We know how websites are created. Do you know how universes are created? No. We see human beings, do we see Gods?


Some people just want to be daft

sonofthunder:
1.) can you give us biblical references for your claim above "....... The preists was then ordered to ransom some of the first fruit with money after 1 month. ........".
2.) Have you studied the place I requested you to study? (Leviticus 27)

I just read your leveticus 27 and I don't see first fruit paid in money.

Lies. Stop being a lai Muhammad

sonofthunder:
go back and study the reference given you by petra1. when you're done with that go and study the last chapter in the book of Leviticus.

Lies!

Petra's reference has no monetary first fruit payment. First fruit was paid in harvest and livestock. The preists was then ordered to ransom some of the first fruit with money after 1 month.

I repeat: no where in the Bible is there an example of first fruit paid in money

godisgood200:
Did i say they are the same? You see? You don't get it.

If you were a humanist as your moniker implies, you won't come into a global forum to make fun of 'a friend' who trusts you and came to you in his time of need, (that's if he did o).

Some folks are indeed stupid for not really checking the characters of who they call friends.

If your story is true (which i strongly doubt it), then you are a frienemy.

It doesn't matter who you are, believe it, deny it, what you sow, will come to you.

Did I mention the friend's name? It is an issue that can be discussed as long as it is done confidentially.

This thread has nothing to do with humanism. It is a simple criticism of an aspect of Christianity.

akintom:
am good.

I thought you left nairaland

Empiree:
Updated

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If only one could post "top ten signs that you are a fundamentalist Muslim" in the Islam section.

HYPOCRITES!

sonofthunder:
what lies are you talking about?

There is no where in the Bible that first fruit was paid with money.

godisgood200:
Sir, stop dignifying this kid abeg. He knows nothing about being a Humanist yet he wants to talk about Christianity.

Humanism and Christianity are different things.

inositol88:
What is this rubbish

Abuse of Valentine day!!!

I think we have to protest for the pope to cancel the feast day of St. Valentine, since Nigerians don't know the true meaning of the day!!!!

True Christian love has been misinterpreted to mean erotic and flesh destructive sexualized sexualization!!!

Must it always be about sex? Can't you show love without sinful sex attached

Not saying sex in marriage is sinful oh!!! But some unmarried folks wud build on this to continue in formication. and must it be in church?? Can't they organise a seminar to talk on it?

If the church which should be a symbol of decency has degenerated to this gibberish, I wonder what they want us to learn from people who are suppose to serve as spiritual mentors.

Will you sharrap.

You think everyone is interested in your deeper life sanctimonious way of life?

sonofthunder:
but there is. You should go back and study the bible instead of making bigoted conclusions to very simple and clear doctrines.

Prove it now.


It seems you like lies

We can see Seun and there is pic/video evidence for him. Cant say much about the creator God.

Empiree:
the one that paid for my school fees is enjoying best of life right now PAID FOR BY ME. What you make a year is what he gets a month

You still pity him now?

With your level of reasoning, you havent gone far

Ubenedictus, italo,

Come and see your crazy clergy

simplex2:
We see them a lot. After stupidly giving their salary as first fruit in a 'ponzi' scheme, they come out to lend money from everyone.

While at school , after the BLW Pastor had charged them (students oo) to sow their school fees; few days to exam, you see them sneaking in on us (the heathen) to beg for money to complete their school fees.

we know them all.



Loll...faced with superior argument, you have thrown in the towel and run away! Same way you vehemently supported the fraud of tithe all over this board.

What??!!

These pastors no get heart!!

They are also robbing and brainwashing young students? Gaddem! These tithe hustlers are deadly

AlfaSeltzer:
Satan forbid.

I was afraid that they have turned you to a sheeple!

AlfaSeltzer:
If I give you my first fruit, will you refuse?

Eh? You tithe?

neutrotoba:
Taxes have always been to enrich politicians then right?

False

neutrotoba:
The intended purpose of tithe is not to enrich pastors... In fact its purpose is to be used by the church for all that which the government would do with taxes. But the human factor that affects tithes also affects taxes. Politicians enrich themselves with our commonwealth but we have few who use it correctly, same with the church.

But as paying taxes is your responsibility, so is Tithe.

Happy sunday

Lies. Tithe has always been to enrich clergymen: from Levites to pastors

neutrotoba:
You pay taxes to the government and they embezzle it. But you don't stop paying cuz of that. Why? because paying taxes is your responsibility not choice. In God's government, it is also your responsibility to pay tithe

Nonsense. I pay tax because it is the law and then in normal circumstances those taxes are meant to be used to provide healthcare, subsidized housing and welfare services.


Your tithe offers nothing other than to enrich criminally inclined pastors

akintom:
Based on my studied observation, religious conditioning traps most faith adherents, from formative years. Therefore, the illogical behavior, permeates significant areas of their life.

Albeit, this observation can only be understood by folks, who are knowledgeable in this area and know how folks vacillate within conscious and unconscious spectrum of awareness.

Whats up?

Let me not lie, this news is sweeting my body.



Silly lord chosen clowns.

Empiree:
You are becoing sensless now. You still have low IQ. I have told you the bottomline is western influence on them. Check most of them. Dont force race card on me bcus i am not. I only pointed out the King's mother is White (which signifies western influence)

I just pity whoever paid school fees for you.

Empiree:
simply telling you that king must have been influenced by his Western lifestyles. This is common knowledge. Therefore, he would see himself as "moderate", "liberal" etc and I have no problem with him. What I have problem with is you guys wanna portray him as some sort standard for Muslims, which is very wrong. Islam is different from him. Even if he's descendant, still has nothing to do with Islam bcuz we don't worship family in Islam.

if rascism is the best way you can think of about my post, I'm sorry, I have no more word for you. It means you have a very low IQ. You could have asked what I meant my by post instead of making fool of yourself.

Your point would have made small sense if there were no other royal families in the middle east that do not wear hijab. Oga, your post is racist and senseless


This is queen Raina of Jordan (does she have a white mother too?)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Queenraniacopy8452.jpg