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^^^^^^^ Soon you will use Lord for God, and god for Jesus. This is pure polytheism.

Muslim is a radical Monotheist. There is no equal to God Who is the True One Lord.


All others are idols from the mouth of those who make him, them Lord or God, be it capital or lower case[s] G and or L.

@Olaadegbu [Quote]This is a former Egyptian Islamic professor comparing and contrasting between Jesus and Muhammad and about the torture chambers in the Egyptian police stations, and how he has come to accept Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Saviour.[/Quote]Contrast his finding to what Professor Bart D. Ehrman of University of North Carolina at Chapel Hills, School of Religious Studies says on WWW.The DeenShow.com which you can access on Youtube.

He left Christianity and the reasons are obvious and many. All understood by sound thinking mind[s].

Mark Gabriel is wet behind the ears, still.

Ify is not the only Igbo woman who reverted to Islam, so what is the man so peeved about?

Get a grip, man.

Both statement of assumptions, are just that; assumptions. There is no truth to either.

The moon is a creation, which the crescent is only a phase.

The star is also a creation.

In reality the crescent and star was a symbol of the Othoman Kalifah of Turkey.

It is like a flag, if you will of that Kalifah.

It has no significance to Islam, except that a kalifah, as mentioned, above adopted it as his own identification of his ruling dynasty.


Muslim worships the Lord and Creator of the Moon, the Star, the Sun, etc, . . . . , the Man, etc, everything seen and unseen.

@Seyibrown:

Seyi o. Youtube this: THE REAL STORY BEHIND TEMPLE OF MECCA & THE BLACK STONE!



Its telling us that jews and the earliest followers of Isa bin Maryam's movement went there for pilgrimage.

Professor Bert D. Ehrman of School of Religious Studies at University of North Carolina, Chapel Hills, NC. USA left Christianity. How about that?

Watch his testimony on Video from WWW.TheDeenShow.com.

Or Youtube yourself for it.

@Uplawal: Salaamualaykum wa Rahmatullah. Thanks for your support and advise. The above quotes of dexmond are parts of the over all reason[s] I say that Hadith that has no basis in Quran is not truly "HADITH". The Sunnah of the Messenger [AS] goes against him beating a woman. I dont dare beat a woman, and while I am inferior in morality to Muhammad, it is Sunnah that strengthens me from even daring to strike at a woman or start any fight.
The below is a testament that just retaliation [qisas] is well known among muslims and Muhammad [as] would have asked Aisha to retaliate, even as ABu Bakr [ra] had asked in the story of Rabi'a ibn Kab.  www.muslimaccess.com/sunnah/sahabah/RABIAH_IBN_KAB.html - Cached


Rabiah ibn Kab

Here is the story of Rabiah told in his own words: "I was still quite young when the light of iman shone through me and my heart was opened to the teachings of Islam. And when my eyes beheld the Messenger of God, for the first time, I loved him with a love that possessed my entire being. I loved him to the exclusion of everyone else.

One day I said to myself:

'Woe to you, Rabi'ah. Why don't you put yourself completely in the service of the Messenger of God, peace be on him. Go and suggest this to him. If he is pleased with you, you would find happiness in being near him. You will be successful through love for him and you will have the good fortune of obtaining the good in this world and the good in the next.' . . . . .


. . . . The Prophet then gave me a piece of land near Abu Bakr's. From then I became concerned with the dunya, with material things. I had a dispute with Abu Bakr over a palm tree.

'It is in my land,' I insisted. 'No, it is in my land,' Abu Bakr countered. We started to argue. Abu Bakr cursed me, but as soon as he had uttered the offending word, he felt sorry and said to me: 'Rabiah, say the same word to me so that it could be considered as qisas -just retaliation.' 'No by God, I shall not,' I said.

'In that case, replied Abu Bakr. 'I shall go the Messenger of God and complain to him about your refusal to retaliate against me measure for measure.'

He set off and I followed him. My tribe, the Banu Asiam, also set off behind me protesting indignantly: 'He's the one who cursed you first and then he goes off to the Prophet before you to complain about you!' I turned to them and said: 'Woe to you! Do you know who this is? This is As-Siddiq, and he is the respected elder of the Muslims. Go back before he turns around, sees you and thinks that you have come to help me against him. He would then be more incensed and go to the Prophet in anger. The Prophet would get angry on his account. Then Allah would be angry on their account and Rabi'ah would be finished.' They turned back.

Abu Bakr went to the Prophet and related the incident as it had happened. The Prophet raised his head and said to me:

'O Rabi'ah, what's wrong with you and as-Siddiq?' 'Messenger of God, he wanted me to say the same words to him as he had said to me and I did not.'

'Yes, don't say the same word to him as he had said to you. Instead say: 'May God forgive you Abu Bakr.' With tears in his eyes, Abu Bakr went away while saying: 'May God reward you with goodness for my sake, O Rabiah ibn Kab, 'May God reward you with goodness for my sake, O Rabiah ibn Kaab, "

 


other materials to know the truth from fallacies;


Seerah - the life of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) - www.musalla.org/Articles/Seerah/seerah14.htm - Cached - Similar

The Forgiveness By The Prophet Muhammad [as] - www.articlesbase.com/, /the-forgiveness-by-the-prophet-muhammad-2009669.html - Cached

Who is Muhammad? - www.iisna.com/articles/index.php?sid=pamphlets&id=27 - Cached

@dexmond: [Quote]It is unfortunate that you have to say this. You mean the prophets sunnah should be jettisoned? I am sure not many Muslims will agree with you. The prophet said you should follow his sunnah and that of abu bakri, now you are saying his sunnah is bad. I think, it is not about the prophets sunnah, but about what Islam as a religion stands for. Do you know that the noble prophet strucked Aisha on the chest? Do you know that abu bakri did the same thing to her? Islam indeed hates women.[/Quote]on the bold you are on your own, until you bring a reliable "proof", that agrees with the Quran, since Muhammad [AS] was the embodiment of that honored Book.

a hadith that will proof you and those who believe the bold as lie will be brought out to show your ignorance. I easily could have left you alone without responding to your allegation, the way a person who is deranged should be left alone. I think your problem is that of an ignorant man, borne out of the bigotry that you grow up on against the religion of Islam.

i did not even think you need a response on your hatred of Islam, seeing that those who have eyes may not necessarily see. But to lie against Muhammad and the father of Aisha is the lowest of gutter tactics you can employ, and came out of the gate with it all.

Muhammad [as], a man through whom Allah the Almighty elevated the status of women, and preserved the lives of female daughters is now presented by your filthy mind as a wife striker, when his mere touching of one his male companion with a poked finger, caused him to ask the man to retaliate, immediately. the same Muhammad [as] that his mere turning of his face away from a man caused Allah to revealed Surah Abasa! dont you have any sense, if you have no shame at all that if he had struck his wife, Allah would have used that incident to tell us how to strike a person or a wife, instead of the example of Prophet Job's reactionary to his wife? it is also shameful that you lied on Abu Bakr [ra] a man who kept his daughter instead of letting her go with her mother who refused to enter Islam with the whole family!

a father like that is not a man who will then resort to beating or striking his precious daughter, instead of protecting her. Please tell us when the case of Abu Bakr abusing Aisha [ra] took place relative to her becoming a wife of the Messenger, is it before or after, not forgetting that you and your claim that she was married and living with the prophet at age 6. shall a father therefor beat his daughter before then or enter her husband's home to do the beating, considering that Umar bin Khattab [ra] who was more feisty was not allowed to strike his daughter Afsah [ra], based on the story in Surah Azhab of wives [ra] conspiring against the Messenger?


You better stop being a liar before your time is definitely up. And with all the hatred, it is in Islam that Eve was not blamed alone for the eating from the tree. It is also the religion that commands a woman to be known by her father's name, even after she is married. It is in Islam that the full freedom of her person is written.

yesterday i saw a video if the Imam of Masjid Haram, Dr. Adel Al Kalbani saying that we should separate what Islam says from how fathers and or husbands deal with their daughters and or wives. it makes sense since we see very clearly that for example alcohol is rejected by Islam, yet we have muslims who consume it, openly or secretly, knowing its prohibition. the same deviance I see in the matter of women treatment by men. some observe the order of Islam while most react based on their gender bias or outlook.

^^^^^^^ how does the above explain the brethren[ship] of the Deut biblical "prophesy" of Moses? Is the only brethren of Moses the children of Israel, without doubt excluding the children of his brother, Esau, or children of his cousins, who are the sons of his uncle, Ishmael?

How is a prophet going to be raised up, like Moses, when you claim that Jesus who you call "Yahweh", son of "Yahweh" and Ghost of "Yahweh" in trinitarian maze just that "Prophet" like Moses?

A prophet like Moses cant be anything else, but purely Prophet, because Moses was purely a prophet!

@dexmond; The word "INFIDEL" appears in the Bible.

It does not appear in the Quran at all.

If you see it in the Arabic Quran, please type out the word for us in Arabic so that we can go in the Quran to check your "knowledge".


How does anyone know that the people who were not praying are christans? Consider this, muslims are the security personnel in Islamic functions in countries where we are even minorities. Apart from saying that the people in the picture are police officers, I find it hard to swallow that Christians will be protecting muslims in the public, in a country such as Egypt where the majority by far are muslims.


It is almost similar to protestant christians in Trafalgar or Piccadilly in England are going to be "protected" by muslims or hindus or sikh! It is not muslims who by and large need protection in Egypt that Christians should come to their aids in the Public eye. It is the majority that needs to protect the minority and the muslims are the majority and hold power of authority in Egypt. Until somebody can "proof" that the human ring are Christians, it is safe to say that they are Muslims, who will make their own prayers, after the large mass of worshipers are done.

^^^^^^^^^ Foolishness re-awakes! And they call us dogs and or swines? Yes it was their god that said it; some of them eat dogs. definitely, they eat swine that the pearls have no value on it. Yes, it is the house of the devils, and many other diseases.

Some of us use our God given mind.

God is God. The rest are creations.

Shall God be a creation? Never. That will throw Him from being the True God.


Shall creation be God? Never. God does not worship.

God suffers not.

God begs not.

God is never defeated. There was an off broadway play few years ago titled "your arms are too short to box with God."

the above is a true statement. When your god becomes a son, a prophet, a man and now an angel, you are definitely a confused mind.

This is your problem that has overwhelmed your mind to the extreme degree that you can't differentiate your Lord from anything; man begging, man getting beat up, man bleeding, man hanging, son of man! You almost turned it to how many forms do your god manifests himself, even hindu god is almost the rival here? funny stuff.


Don't get me started. I had a wonderful day and my mind is as sharp as a tack.

my opinion, based on what i have witnessed in many mosques, especially during a state of "emergency"; not all muslims will pray at the same time. Most pray, while some stand guarding the praying people.

then those who guarded will now pray, while others from those who had prayed now guard.

how is it that we know that these guards in the picture are "christians", while majority of the Egyptians are christians?

even here in the states, the muslims guard the muslims.


can someone shed light[s] on how we can tell these young men guarding the masses are christians, considering their 'after sunset' like beard/stubble?

just wondering. . . . .

@yinkade: islam is sitting accommodating, if you cant stand for prayer. you can even lay on your side to pray.

^^^^ Seriously, this is a bigger confusion than what you have been proposing;

now, he is an angel announcing the birth of Samson. . . . . ,

while he was not even contented as god and his own son.

He does it all; man as son of man, man as prophet, man as god, man as son of god, and finally angel announcing birth of mere mortal!


And after all of these, he said "my God and your God is One Lord".

And after all of these, he said i cant do anything of myself.


I pity a defective mind.

@Olaadegbu: « #454 on: January 27, 2011, 08:18 PM »
[Quote]Does this now mean that you believe that Jesus died and rose again just as he prophesied in Surah 19:33?[/Quote]His death and rising up have not happened, part of the cumulative reason[s] he will return to die peacefully, not the supposed tragic death you hang your whole existence on, and his rising up will be in the time that even you and I shall rise up for Judgment day.

Olaadegbu, that Judgment day shall be real and no cartoon rendering shall be accepted from you or the original cartoonist[s].

^^^^^When Hymen converts, hopefully this year, since she doesnt come across as someone arrogant or hard at heart, I will be eager to read her reason for "reversion". It will be a delightful experience for her and my prayer is that she tastes it and get hooked on it.

May Allah not make her the likes of Abu Lahab, who despite knowing the truth ignored it. May Allah not bring the like of Abu Jahal into her life, being a barrier for her not entering Islam. Amin.

The best in your life is yet to come, and it shall know it when it arrives as you enter Islam, enjoining what is good and forbidding evil.

Enter Islam completely and abhor the ways of the evil one for he is indeed an open enemy to you.

@Ndipe: « #455 on: Yesterday at 12:02:51 AM »
[Quote]http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/19/index.htm

Read the above, particularly the highlighted part with a sincere heart.[/Quote]I read everything with a sincere heart, imagining myself as the only audience of the Speaker, directing the whole thing to me. And I am sure that I agree with the Speaker. He is Mighty, Wise and there is none save He.

If I look at your highlight, for example, the verse where it says "created before, when he was naught", I realize that human was a soul in spiritual form before he was a human born on earth.

When man was nothing on earth, he was created by Allah the Almighty, in spiritual realm, as soul.

Just to let you know that you were naught, even on earth, please give me the recollection of your own experience when your mother gave birth to you in the hospital. If you cant, yet you dispute with your Creator, in that verse, where you are now told that you have appeared twice, once in heaven in your spiritual soul form, while the other at the moment of your birth, though I ignore the period of your inception in Mommy's stomach.

Do you know more than God? Yet you know nothing about your day of birth, or which sexual intercourse that produced your pregnancy? Neither Mommy nor daddy who did the act know which one, exactly, but ONLY ALLAH KNOWS.

^^^^^ yommyuk is a funny man. a man who says he is a muslim, regardless of his color or former religion, you are now separating him from Islam.

Is that a fair assessment of the man you called White man John the Muslim in Asia?


Regardless of what you call him, he will not leave Islam. He is ready to die as a Muslim, in the face of the THREAT of the Taliban. It does not make a difference to him. He will never accept Christianity. He has forever rejected Trinity and the religion of Trinity; christianity. He has forever accepted Islam, bartered his soul with Allah for the Ultimate goal; the Mercy of Allah on the day of Judgment.


Say what you may, yommyuk. He aint changing. If his position is the test of what is right, Islam has won hands down.

@Olaadegbu: When Prophet Jesus son of Mary [as] said what you wrote above in Surah Maryam of The Quran, can you tell me if the event of his birth already took place? If it is yes, then I see reason for your writing "the day I was born". If not, then explain how he was able to talk without being out of the birth canal to the outside world?

Please let me know if when he spoke the words, he was already dead or his death will be a future event he was talking about then? If this is the case that his death is a future event at the time he spoke the word, why not write "the day I will die", expressing future event to come?


Please let me know if when he spoke the words, he was already risen or his rising up will be a future event he was talking about then? If this is the case that his rising up is a future event at te time he spoke the word, why not write "the day i rise up", expressing it in the manner of how you dubiously expressed "the day I die", as if it is not a future event correct written " the day I will rise up"?


Olaadegbu, 1 past event is expressed as what already happened "I was born". 2 future events should be expressed as what is to come "the day I will die, the day I will rise up", not as 1 happening rise now "day I die" and the other future "day that I will rise up"! Even from your Bible, you didnt express that Jesus died as a baby, did you and not a young man of 30something? If he spoke about his future life in the Bible, was it not in shall or will? Why didnt you use the will on the Quranic verse you quoted?

If congoshine have said Muslims are the enemies, I probably would have reluctantly accept his opinion, if partially.


But when he says it is Islam, I disagree since the WHITE man rejected going out Islam, and not even afraid to die, even if the muslims are the ones that will kill him! He is not a coward and he knows good thing, which he found 40 years ago.

May God allows you to find such a good thing. Amin.

^^^^^^^ Yes it is.

Proof; The WHITE man himself.


He has the chance to leave Asia, Islam.


He rejected it. Its been 40 Years you said in your piece.


Yommyuk, whats the reason you asked such a question, when the answer was steering you in the face?

He rejected Christianity and there is nothing you can do but to attach Islam. If he didnt find personal peace in her, do you think he will remain a Muslim?

After all christianity offers 'do what you want', a concept that is contrary to true upright morality, because there is cause and effect, always.

@Congoshine: And this on You tube; The Military KNOWS Israeli AGENTS did 911 (Using Israel as a Smoke screen cover)

And this on You Tube; What the Jews [Zionest] did to the germans . .

Go on You Tube to view Zionists invented Modern Terrorism.

@Congoshine: « #45 on: Today at 09:20:31 PM »
[QUote]Well I was in New York on that day & it was a beautiful day, I don't know what you're inferring. Undecided
Anyway if you're not terrorism inclined like Ms 'soon to be deported' Uplawal,then there isn't much to discuss.
Stay off the conspiracy route ok ?[/Quote]The concrete jungle of NYC, after Labor day takes an eerie chill. At least for a few days or weeks before the bodies get adjusted to fall weather. Where ever you were on that day, you must have been consuming a lot of what you were consuming to think it was beautiful september day. And about the bold, most wealthy people in any society made their wealth in their home country. Maybe it is better to be home than to be abroad.



[Quote]Arab tribal means arab tribal,I dnt understand this your own ITK.[/Quote]Many tribes in arabia. Which one are you talking about; The Quraishi tribe that refused to accept him? I see that you already admitted that you dont UNDERSTAND.



[Quote]On a final note,I have absolutely nothing against muslims or any religion. We met it all here on earth & will leave them here. I however resist deranged conspiracy theorists who can't reason properly e.g Farouk,George Bush,uplawal etc[Quote]And I am just about to refer you to your Zionist masters in either or both in salvation belief and academia that they are the inventor of modern TERRORISM, consider the method they got rid of England out of Palestine and killed off the Arabs so that the State of Israel was formed. Go to You tube under "Zionists invented Modern Terrorism" and know who is the mafia don.[/quote][/quote]

@Congoshine: [Quote]Imagine if your younger sister was one of those killed on a beautiful September day in 2001,a sad situation ,made worse because you couldn't even find a fingernail to bury-[/Quote]There were muslims killed on the September day in 2001. It was a cold morning in New York City, contrary to your opinion of "beauty". If you couldnt even find fingernail to bury, imagine having from the rubles the charred passports of only the criminals, and any of the passengers? Which is more flammable, the thin pages of passport or human body?



[Quote]all becos some psychotic guys feel there is immense reward for them killing the 'enemies of God',you'll understand what I'm talking about. Or you were on Farouk Abdulmuttalab's flight to Detroit on Christmas day 2009.[/Quote]Nothing Farouk did, or any muslim killing innocent person or persons, publicly or privately is based in Islam. I refer you to Muhammad [as], while I presented what Job [as] did with his wife, long time before Muhammad. Allah says "you have a good example in the noble Messenger". I will not even hit, strike, touch or tap my wife, since Muhammad [as] didnt do any of these, while for those who want to take advantage of what is available, may copy Job, similar to a man who marries 1 wife, while he has the option of the advantage in the Quran for 2, or 3, or 4 wives.



[Quote]As per the American nut-job you're talking about,if he has similar conspiracy induced terrorist tendencies,everything I've posted applies to him as well.[/Quote]That American nut job, was one of the best few people ever walked the country known as USA. He was the framer of the constitution, almost by himself. I am wondering if you read minds, since you already know that there was unspoken thought by him, and unspoken thought by Uplawal, both amounting to danger? What we know is this, Jefferson's thought spoken and unspoken, the whole of it, from mere observation has kept his country as a bright shining light on the hill. We can only imagine that since Uplawal mirrors him, her thought is to have the same result.



[Quote]And when you say 'her people' what are you talking about? Is it the hausa muslims that don't regard her as a true believer or the racist arabs that think africans are good enough to be housekeepers? Or the Taliban that would probably kill her for having an education?[/Quote]I dont have the ability to ready mind like you. Her people is best known to her, if what she wrote that you seem to be having a heartache from is not clear enough for you. I responded to you on two fronts; reading meaning beyond what she wrote and bad painting Islam because of your opinions of Muslims and your own hatred of Islam. The other aspects that I ignore are worthless, since I do know plenty of Hausa Muslims who are completely opposite of your generalization, Arabs who are not racists, and will give their daughters to Africans, and the Taliban who are dont know more than what we learned from the news did have an educated young man from them who was stuck in the US, as he arrived on a state visit before sept 11.



[Quote]Thats the point I'm making,these arab tribal doctrines find their way into Nigerian culture and we take it as the 'word of God',while discounting our own culture and people(Igbo,Yoruba,Hausa,Tiv,Ijaw etc).[/Quote]There is nothing Arab Tribal about Islam. Well, Arab is multitribal, and which tribe you will pinning Islam to will be interesting to know, considering the fact that the Tribe of Muhammad [as] ran him out of Makka and it was almost towards the end of his mission that the began to actually accept it. If it was based on their tribe, can you imagine them running him out, rather than accepting him, the reason Islam has its own culture and the doctrine is completely not of arabs who were polytheist by nature. It is interesting to know that you will not take christianity as Jewish Tribal doctrines, considering that you claim that even the Trinity which is unwritten in the Bible can be found in OT, Jesus being the "word" in this case. You have a very unusual argument against Islam.

@Divinereal: « #67 on: Yesterday at 09:01:47 PM »
[Quote]Lol, your ad hominem attacks are quite infantile. Dude no be fight with all this BOLD lettering. You are allowed to criticize my posts, I have no problem with that. The scientific method includes peer reviewing, lol

Back to our discourse:

Quranic rules are differentiated by sex, with men seemingly given greater rights and responsibilities. You cannot continue to use semantics or "classical" arabic to explain away what is self evident in your "holy" books and Islamic culture. There are innumerable verses that are abhorent and misogynist. [b]In an earlier post I posted 2 discussions by Wafa Sultan and Ayaan Hersi that debated on women status in Islam.[/b]If Quran differentiates any aspect of life by gender, tell me in your humanist and or community experience the world over, who is always the person in overall charge of the family; Father or Mother, as a general rule?

Quranic verses can be looked at in two view points; when it was first revealed with its at that moment in time applications, and the other is the generation of those who read it (in our case, 2011). In 2011 who is generally having the upper hand in the family structure; Father or Mother?

Who in your life; your father or your mother, and in your marital relationship, you or your wife? How about the cases of your friends and neighbors? Wafa Sultan and Ayaan Hersi are speaking about Arabs in the generic sense. Regardless, Islam is different from Arabs, and Islam is different from Muslims.



[Quote]Wife Beatings

Quran verse 4:34
Men are in charge of women[b] by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other[/b] and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.[/Quote]As I read your piece, my mind went to Mel Gibson, who beat his russian model girl friend who is his baby's mother senselessly. Am sure he didnt get senseless beating quality from Quran, but maybe from "passion of the christ".

If he had read the Quran, he would have first believed and marry a believing woman as wife who shall bear for him baby/babies from the said legal marriage. The woman would have known that there is one captain steering the boat, and Gibson would be spending to maintain her. And a woman who is righteous and suffers no wants will be obedient to Allah, by being a devoted mate of her husband, who is equally devoted to her as mate.

She would naturally guard her sexuality away from men who will not mind sneaking a peak or wishing that they snatch it away from the husband. A wife who after all the above from the husband is arrogant, have received Mercy of Allah when the husband advises her, because most men who have no God consciousness will put her light out, the moment they get upset based on their being the "man". Advise is enough and should affect the heart of a sincere receiver.

Allah then says if she is still not changing, then dont have sex with her, when men are the ones that crave and demand it more. this is a self sacrificing effort to bring back balance in the relationship, while your striking him is the last bit, based on your quote. Is it strike, and how hard is striking, if you know? The reality is that there is more to just saying striking, while tapping is more like it, and in actuality it is light tap, since the messenger (AS) never even tried that and what Prophet Job (AS) the only one who did it at all was informed to light tap.[/quote]

Imagine if Nigerians are full packing, do you think the arms robberies that curtain off neighborhoods at night could be the norm, where human beings are terrorized, properties taken, wives, daughters are violated right there in the presence of the husband, father, brothers and uncles?

Radicalization is a sure was for people in most situation arrest bad happenings. Nigeria for example needs radical approach in all her imaginable conditions. Maybe all these tribalism, horrors in politics, economic woes and malaise mindset and lack of personal responsibility can all be arrested by one strong iron hand hammer head tough leadership.

just because a persons advocates literacy in the usage of arms, and or wishes society is armed does not translate to some form of bad spirited mindset.

to be radical is always a bad thing. I wonder what Tpia and Congoshine will say about the American radical; The forefather of american constitution, Thomas Jefferson?

Please Youtube him under; Thomas Jefferson: A true American Radical.

He was one of those rare gems among men. His wishes for his people was not different from what Uplawal wishes for her people; Consciousness of self preservation.

@gen2genius: « on: Today at 01:31:21 PM »
[Quote]This intelligence report is for all Christians, especially those whose denominations regularly organise programmes that attract large turn-outs of people (crusades, retreats, camp-meetings etc).

The ever-implacable and incorrigible descendants of the bondwoman are at their evil game again. Having employed various sadistic tactics to decimate Christians and eliminate Christianity in Nigeria without success, and having observed with diabolic envy over the years, the success of most Christian programmes, they are about to launch a guerrilla-like attack on Christians by targeting major programmes. Their strategy is to start selling poisoned consumables - especially fruits, barbecue (suya) etc - around programme venues. The poisoning will be done mainly by injecting these edibles. [/Quote]Are you a child of free woman especially when we consider that a child is a carrier of the father's name, you are from Sarah if you are saying Princess Hajar was a bondwoman, while the whole world knows from the Bible that all the woes of mankind is blamed on mother Eve?

Finally, when you make this type of allegation of some muslims are intending to poison christians, if you are truly a christian, then you need to present your facts to the Nigerian authorities in order to prevent this potential calamity and evil that is to come. it is a vile thing, if on the other hand you have made this claim without any evidence.

Why would northern muslims target christians in nigeria, as you have purported above, and all you can do is to report it on the web without first going to the authorities with the evidence you have?

Islam which I have practiced for many generations does not allow a soul to even think seriously about what you just claimed here that the muslims are going to do with christians. To do it is not only inhumane, but definitely unIslamic. if you have lied, you should seek repentance before the One God Who is able to accept repentance and give guidance. What a mind that you have to have cooed this up. What a hatred against Islam that can think this about muslims.

@Vedaxcool:

Ndipe is also to task himself to also show you a verse in the whole Bible that says "Trinity".

Another verse that says "Jesus your God that you must worship".

Another verse that says "Jesus the only salvation for all mankind, starting from Adam to the last man on earth".

Another verse that says "Jesus your Creator who is your God and with Him no other, and without Him nothing".

Another verse that says "Jesus your prophet and God who brought you the last revelation from Himself".

Another verse that says "The another comforter is not in physical human to appear later, but a formless thing, God like me that shall appear soon that I left".

Another verse that says "The another comforter shall not have an audible voice, though he will correct you right away because you will stray, even though I spent time teaching you".


biblebasics./, /the-age-of-the-earth-according-to-the-bible/ - Cached - Similar

The genealogy of Genesis 5:3-32 precludes any gaps due to its tight chronological structure and gives us 1,656 years between Creation and the Flood, thus bringing Creation Week back to near 3987 B.C. or approximately 4000 B.C.

Therefore, the biblical age of the Earth (using Scripture itself as a guide) is 6,000 years !! (note: assume you are reading this blog around the year 2000, give or take a decade). Mankind did not evolve 4 million years ago on an Earth which is 4.5 billion years old in a universe which was “big-banged” into existence 18-20 billion years in the distant past.

Jesus Christ said He made mankind male and female in the beginning (Mark 10:6), and that when the heavens and the earth were commanded into being (Gen 1:1), they “stood up together” (Isa 48:13) not billions of years apart !!

Notes to self:

* have i taken something out of context?
* is this where the bible is ‘literal’ and a day is actually billions of years?
* did God include this in the bible for interests sake…but really he wants us to not spend too much time on this bit…and spend more time on loving him and loving others!

^^^^^^Olaadegbu, omo yoruba nie. O gbo eeno ni, abi o gbo owe ni?


When Allah says in the Quran that the Holy Prophet to contact the people of the book about what was revealed in the Quran, it simply means that this people of the book, in Madina already knew that in their book[s], as they have it in Madina, they see all the clear signs of "Truth from their Lord, Quran being that Truth, which is already recognized in their Book[s] of old", and the expected Messenger was right there, alive with the in Madina, and not some Bani Israil, but Bani Hashim; Muhammad (AS)".

It is a verse of sarcasm, a way to confront the people of the Books with the Truth, perchance, they will be ashamed of their lies, distortions, and denials.

Olaadegbu, tell me why would the Jews be heavily concentrated in Madina when the messenger was raised in Makka, and 13 years later looking Makka-ward expecting the arrival of the nobliest of all mankind, Muhammad bin Abdallah (AS), which other places had no significant Bani Israil in that part of arabia?

Below is the verse in surah Yunus for your conscience. It is a confrontation because the "The Prophet" and the "Another Comforter" was recognized in the person of the best of mankind (AS), even then and now, your type bury their heads in lies. The bold, below is a very potent point against the disbelievers of then and now. I ask a Jew, who is that "The Prophet" and a Christian, who is that "The another comforter"? The Prophet cant be Jesus, because he was the christ/messiah, just as he cant be Elijah. The Holy Ghost which the christian claim is God cant be sent by God and Jesus, yet he did not have an audible voice. And it is too early at the penticost for any correction of great students like Peter, the Rock and others, who had great teacher in Jesus to make mistakes. It is too early for them to have to be reminded, since the ascension was still fresh in their memories.

If they needed all these corrections, reminders, etc, we cant trust their scholarship, and their teacher we have all insulted for being a poor instructor. neither I am sure was the case with these light of the time. May Allah guide all our affairs, and make things right, leading the misguided who wishes for the right guidance to the Path that is not crooked. Amin

Verse 93; And We had certainty settled the Children of Israel in an agreeable settlement and provided them with good things. And they did not differ until [after] knowledge had come to them. Indeed, your Lord will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that over which they used to differ

Surah Yunus verse 94; So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.

To all the Muslims; males and females of us;

As sSalaamaualaykum wa Rahmatullah.


Please we should all settle down and stop the bickering among ourselves.

If the others are not looking at our disagreement as means of amusements for them, at least we are divided against ourselves.
And such a condition is not expression of wellness.

A house divided against itself will definitely fall into ruins.

Allah is the Knower of all things. We are at least to unite in that, holding on to the Robe of Allah altogether. And not dividing against ourselves so that the enemies will not have a means of separating us, creating malice and planting a seed of deceit in our hearts.


Please lets discuss without putting anybody down, or getting angry at anyone, for we do not know when the tongue is a deadly weapon. Shaytan is deceitful and hates the cooperation between mankind in good things.

May Allah protect each and everyone of us. Amin.

Including you too, hymen. I definitely see Islam in your future. Amin.