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^^^^^^you are not making any sense, man.


deed in Islam is based on intention. If it is a good deed, the intention must be good and the way of executing it must be good also.

Just because these people are trying to avoid illegal sex in their community, does not mean they must use terrible process to execute their intention, lacking therefore the value of goodness to the fullest.

Wisdom is a good tool to have.

Somalia/somali hard line stand/view should not be taken as the view of Islam itself. That is what i am saying.

@TheHomer: « #15 on: Yesterday at 08:56:46 PM »
[QuoteAnd how about characters such as Moses and Abraham who were mentioned in the video? You may wish to know that not all Christians agree with the doctrine of the trinity.[quote][/Quote]While we have them in Islam, the Jews and Christians malign each of them. They say Abraham slept with his wife's unmarried maid, a definite adultery/fornication combo. And in the case of Moses they said that Yahweh was after his hide even as he was still on the errand of that very Yahweh. Both situations are absurd tot he Muslims who denied them. Do we have the same people, while our ideas are completely different? You tell me, thehomer, considering that both groups cant be both right, hence the formation of "God" as Karen was saying it is restricted to the Jew/Christian combo, and muslims are free of it. I ask you, was The Creator ever absent?


[Quote]Whether I believe or not is irrelevant.[/Quote]It is your lack of belief that will engineer your thought and conscience to the extend that you can ignorantly believe that 1 Complete God has to be formulated from axiom of ancient multiple gods or god.


[Quote]So that was her problem. Interesting but even if what you say were true, so what?[/Quote]New information for you. I am certain that if you didnt know that before, it is now an information you cant deny. Some day, you will know that you and your ilk did not come out of an ape. There is A Creator Who actually created you that you come out of your momma's tommie as a modern man. He created Adam completely matured,ready to be a father of babies. This is a testament to the Power of our Creator.


[Quote]You saw the interview, good for you.[/Quote]I have known about her for over a decade. She was part of many religious documentary miniseries. Most people will have a problem in one area, but broad stroke the whole mansion with the same paint. I remember a christian just this past week saying to me that because the muslims wear long robes, he thinks they are no educated, while one of the Iranian Ayatollah's has a Ph. D. in Classical German Philosophy, something former President George Bush could never have been able to acquire.


[Quote]Whether you like it or not, Islam is a part of it especially when one considers the shared prophets and myths.[/Quote]You almost made sense with your temper tantrum until you added the myths. Again, it shows your poor judgment of reality. Shared personality is Odumegu Ojukwu to Nigeria. No where was he the head of state of Nigeria, but Biafra. See what I mean? Illusion and reality are two different things. You and Karen are in some strata of illusion. Thank God, you are both on earth, even then. The Mercy of God extends and covers all.

LagosShia, shouldn't everyone emulate the wisdom of Ali [ra], who obviously was not proud and didn't curse any of the companions?


It is clear to me that, Ali who was not shy, especially when it comes to his rights would not have became a dove, especially when he was a lion.

This quality is what we should all share from him, coupled with the fact that Umar [ra], an obvious man of valor in the lifetime of the Messenger (AS) was always respecting him, in every instance he had. Allah's Messenger was the best of all mankind, praised each of the kalifahs asking Allah to support Islam with one of the 2 Umar, and Alhamdulillah it was Khattab that was chosen.

As Muslims, we need to look at the qualities of each of our leaders. Personally, I take the perseverance of Ali in the matters of those before him.

@TheHomer: « #4 on: Today at 07:19:11 AM »
[Quote]Is Allah the same as the Christian God or not? Were Jesus and Muhammed prophets of the same God or not?[/QUote]Since Christian God is in Triune, Allah will not be the same as the Christian God. The answer is no.

Of course Jesus son of Mary [as] and Muhammad [as] are Messengers and Prophets of Allah, the non-Triune Deity Who is One Lord God The Creator.

You thehomer dont believe God exist anyway. Maybe I am wrong in this assumption.

Karen Armstrong in her quest recently believed there is God. You need to get her views on Islam. She is not a radical rejector like your ilk. Her problem emanated from her being 17 year old girl going into the convent, and probably in less than 7 years later based on the raging femininity in her discovered that she needed a man.

I saw her interview with Texan Moyers on PBS, yesterday along with others in the past including NPRs. At best, like most orientalist experts, she mixed falsehood with truth.

Islam stands alone. We are not part of the derivitive[s] of neither Judaism, which she spoke about in what you posted, nor Christianity that is obviously a form of Judaism.

since jesus was unable to help till now, should she not seek another way, especially when that way is to God Almighty, where there is no need to put anyone between her and God?


after all jesus was seeking help from God why not just follow that very process by going directly to the Source; God Almighty?

regression is evil and that is what you ask of her; regression upon regression is darkness upon darkness.

Allah is the ord of jesus. Allah is to be approached.


Yesterday night on youtube's 'the deen show', a former medical doctor who was an atheist trying so hard to become christian spoke about his entering Islam. very profound experience because his daughter was born destined to die just as soon.

this brought out his paternal instinct, prompting him to say a prayer at the hospital's spiritual room.

it took him a whole 15 minutes and upon his return to the nursery area, he noticed that the specialists were perplexed in their expressions.

the infant had became normal. everyone gave his own "expert" opinion, except that the father knew the Hand of God was all over the baby.

it took the father almost 17 years before he made good of his side of the pact with God in the prayer at the spiritual room. He tried all religions, then going from one sect of christianity to another. finally when all failed, he had to look into Islam even after post 9/11, i think.

this Islam is where true salvation under true guidance is.

dont let illusions delude you to acceptance of The Mercy of your Creator.

^^^^^^^ we have an islamic scholar in the house, big knowledge but no belief.

when toba is confronted with hajj issue in the future, InshaAllah, his decision is sound, considering that the wife is still a younger woman.


there is no need to wait until the 3 can go at the same time, because mom may not have that much time on earth based on mere numbers of years she has spent, already.

Allah is The best of Knowers.

^^^^^^^ I dont beat women. I dont know muslim men who beat women.

I have a successful lawyer friend in America who is the one that does their laundry, wash dishes, and other chores.

I do my own cooking.

I am married to a nigerian wife, at that.

Some muslim men I know treat their wives as raw egg, being so careful with her, protecting her than how a mother protects her children.


I dont act culturally, if it is different from Islam. especially when it is a bad quality' beating your wife is not a good quality at all.

^^^^^^ lol. Allahu Akbar. PastorAde is still pushing the already tried but failed "manuscript".

She needs fresh approach as final solution for her problems.

Allah is the Lord God that can protect her. Islam will be her Manuscript, if she really wants a solution. I hope she does.

@Jmaine: « #402 on: Today at 11:49:29 AM »
[Quote]Bashy_demy, always hiding under the cover of daddy sweetnecta. when will you be able to stand your ground as your opponents. When you being asked a question no matter what someone else say, you should have more to add except you are obviously shallow in knowledge as regard what you profess. looking forward to the manly Bashy and not this sweetnecta poor disciple your turning into. be your own man. as for sweetnecta, continue in your deceit very soon i should be expecting you to travel down to partake in the Jihad your brethrens have started in your home country ( Definitely not Saudi which youre faking to come from ancestrally) . Hoping to see you bomb and maim children and harmless innocent souls for Allah In Nigeria. Such a pity.[/Quote]jmaine is not yoruba, the reason the family elders haven't told him all yorubas are from makka. read obj's latest book authored by a ghanaian woman. and muslim is a brother of another muslim. all muslims are one body, when a part of that body is not well, the whole body feels the pain of the unwellness. this is the reason you people every muslim for the action or supposed action of a few. you people should know that what bashy_demy says that is islamically sound is what i will say too. so what i say, if he says thats what he says, whats the problem?

jmaine ang his people and their gimmicks. pants on the ground, pants on the ground, you look like a fool with your pants on the ground.

@the poser; suddenly your guy, the narrator lump Islam with his difficulty with the Bible.

this is strange, considering that Islam declares its uniqueness from both Judaism and Christianity, and we never say that our God is the Author of the Bible, a book sprinkled with confusion and contradictions.

Have you ever examined the Quran and see that there is no similarity between it and the Bible?

I understand; you guys dont read arabic, and the christian arabs will rather hang their hope on a man who was unable to know everything, rather than follow guidance from a man [as] from them telling them to turn to the God that is always existing.


Islam does not give an indication that the earth begins just the other day, as the Bible wrongly said, if your narrator is rightly quoting from it.

Name: Abu Muadh.

Type of disease; ALS. Intensify your dua[s] and remember that wishing one another good is a good quality, seeking the pleasure of Al Wadud.

May Allah accept your dua[s] and enter it/them into your account of good deeds, wiping as well all the bad deeds. Amin.

your own slice of nairaland to yourself.

mashaAllah that in all of the mayhem, you can find a corner to call your own.

whats a prick? your initial title was about "kicking against the "prick[s]".

why change the title?

@Poser; You seem not to be able to distinguish Islam from Muslim, or vice versa.

Islam is the yardstick to determine good or bad muslim.

Islam is not determined as good or bad based on actions of muslims.

Get that into your mind. Try hard. I know old prejudice dies very slowly. But it is possible to die.

If you want education about Islamic perspective on women versus that of Christianity, take the Quran and Bible side by side and read their positions about Women.

While my wife bears her father's last name still, your loses it the very moment she says "I do".

While Eve is blamed by your Bible, the Quran apportioned equal and personal responsibility to Adam and Hawa, who are mates to each other, and then forgave them, thereafter, upon their seeking forgiveness, killing possibility of original sin or transference of evil down the line, while your Bible does not talk about transference of good except evil!

You sometimes, in my reading, a yoruba man, should have been able to just pick up the Quran and read, so that you may have a just cause to reject Islam, for sure.

I read the Bible, and I'm convinced that the essence of the Trinity, without any doubt is dubious and weak, very unbelievable in light of the fact that the Jews who are better than you in matter of spirituality reject exactly what I reject.

I am not using them as a datum for truth, nonetheless, you and them use the same book, the Bible from their OT you most draw up your support for many of your arguments.


I summit to you that there is no true muslim society, but many true muslim individuals abound.


A friend of mine from Benin City now lives in Saudi Arabia says that by and large from his own viewpoint, the citizen of that country are not as religious, which is opposite of what one will expect. So to point to Somalia as the example of Islam, is actually deceitful. I as a muslim know that your are being insincere.

Let Jesus speak for himself is in the same line with let Baal fight for himself.

Both are idols in the minds of those who follow them, each being a medium between them [idolaters] and God.


God is not sanctioning this type of arrangement.


@Olaadegbu; Awa lawa nba e soro. Dawun.

@Infinitii: If Christianity's God[s] failed, look to the One Supreme Lord God Almighty Whose Promise shall never fail.

Come to Islam, then immediately before you sleep recite the last three chapters [each is a very short chapter] of the Quran. Then symbolically blow the air in your mouth after to your open palm 3 times. Rub your whole body with it.

Lay on your right side as you get to bed and recite Ayatul Kursi [Chapter 2 verse 255 of the Quran]. As you doze off, remember your Creator Allah with your tongue by saying simply "Laa illaha ila Allah".

I confirm to you that Allah shall protect you from these evil things.

There is blessing of Allah and protection from Him when you show your reverence in belief.

Let Quran be played in your home. Evil spirit will depart immediately.

If when you become Muslim, read Surah Jinn. Evil Spirit will never come to you by Allah when you have protection as being conscious of His Majesty.

Is there another protector other than Allah, The Irresistible? Absolutely not. The work of the devil will be rendered useless on you when your reliance is on Allah, Alone.

@Ndipe: « #21 on: Today at 01:14:48 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: mazaje on January 06, 2011, 03:52 PM
The reason is because the Jews that wrote the genesis creation account were poly theist. . .Elohim means Gods. . .Forget about the BIG LIE Christians are telling you about father, the the son and the holy spirit. . .There is nothing like, the father, the son and the holy spirit in any part of the OT, Jew today do not believe in any part of the Christian claim of the father, son and holy spirit. . . . .The ancient Jews were NOT monotheist, monotheism gradually evolved into their religion.

Do not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me. – (Psalm 51:11)

That's the utterances of King David, of the Old Testament to God Almighty when he was rebuked for his illicit affair with Bathsheba.[/Quote]From the look of it, we see just 2 entities, which kills of trinity. But I summit to you that holy spirit is nothing but an errant entity, which from you can from the bold that it is God Almighty Who determines where and what holy spirit will do, etc, without any option or opinion after that.

@Biggy87: « #1 on: January 06, 2011, 07:19 AM »
[Quote]Let Us: The father, Son and the Holy Spirit, are three different personalities but one God. So God the father said to the Son and Holy Spirit, Let Us make man in our own image,[/Quote]The bold convoluted the issue; 3 personalities but 1 God? How about the more logical straight forward 3 personalities as 3 Gods? Let wait to read what the other 2 responded to the statement of the 1 Who spoke. If they are silent, they were not in existence, making the idea that they existed with the Speaker a fluke.



@Image123 (m)
[Quote]In Christ (who is) the Son of God who died for the redemption of sinners and resurrected after 3days. This is the greatest truth in the universe[/Quote]Evidences of being a son in a special way, death, redemption, resurrection, etc? Can you calculate 3 days from beginning tot he end, especially when 3 days and 3 nights were expected? Those who resurrect are always in spirit according to Jesus, they have no body.



[Quote]« #2 on: January 06, 2011, 08:12 AM »

Because He's the God the three in One. It's a mix of seniority and plurality. He is most senior, yet 3 distinct One. Like in many languages, we use the plural pronoun for the elder.[/Quote]So God created other Gods; son and ghost, or he didnt? If He did, then son and ghost were really not God[s] for there is Only One Absolute God. If He didnt, how is He Absolute, since He now has partners? That will make those who worship Him, sorry them polytheists. If the former is the condition, those who say the others were not created by Him are bastphemers.



@OLAADEGBU (m) « #3 on: January 06, 2011, 11:36 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Image123 on January 06, 2011, 08:12 AM
Because He's the God the three in One. It's a mix of seniority and plurality. He is most senior, yet 3 distinct One. Like in many languages, we use the plural pronoun for the elder.

I think I need to brush up on my Yoruba.  Can you please tell me how an elder refers to himself in the plural in Yoruba? I thought we have a saying that "enikan ki nje 'awa de'"[/Quote]You live in the UK, so ask Englishmen/Britishers what is 'Majesty or royal pronoun'. The Obas of yoruba land use the same thing when they address their subjects. You seem not to have heard it before. It is similar to ki nton lara omo oba ko ma ku dansaki. If a kind ever speak with you in his court/palace, you will hear him say "awa" for himself. Oni of Ife, Aderemi used it for himself. So is the present Oni, Sijuade. Blue blood is always blue blood. But them Oko iyawo can use "awa" when he is talking to his wife. Olowo Oloro Olola can use that in the mist of his subjects, workers.



[quote]« #6 on: January 06, 2011, 01:09 PM »

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth" -- Genesis 1:26[/Quote]Which one of the 3 does man "Adam" looked like? Later we see Jesus looking like every normal man. Funny how in the 2 genealogies of Jesus, neither included the "assumed" father in heaven in the list of fathers. How real is that. Imagine that!



[quote]This is what a reputable bible commentary said about the verse above:

Quote
God is, as it were, taking counsel here with Himself, not with angels, since man was to be made in the image of God, not of angels. “Our image,” therefore, implies human likeness to the triune Godhead.  Plants possess a body, and animals a body and consciousness.  Man was not only to have a body (of the created “earth”) and a consciousness (of the created “soul”), but man was also to possess a third created entity, the image of God, an eternal spirit capable of communion and fellowship with his Creator.[/Quote]While singular form is used in the first, I ask in the second what is the "image of God"?



[Quote]Man was not only created in God’s spiritual image; he was also made in God’s physical image.  His body was specifically planned to be most suited for the divine fellowship (erect posture, upward-gazing countenance, facial expressions varying with emotional feelings, brain and tongue designed for articulate symbolic speech–none of which are shared by the animals). Furthermore, his body was designed to be like the body which God had planned from eternity that He Himself would one day assume (I Peter 1:20).[/Quote]I read the bold thinking there is sense in it, until I the worse below it, making God Almighty exactly a man! This is sad, especially when the Bible declares no eyes have ever seen God Almighty before. I remember a christian arguing that God is a spirit, yet here above, He suddenly became physical with facial expression!



[Quote]You can see here as God is a Triune God He has made man a tripartite being in readiness for Him to assume when He steps out of eternity into this three dimensional universe.[/Quote]I dont know what to say anymore, since Olaadegbu worsens the situation, each time he writes. Why would God Almighty wanna come to the 3 dimensional realm He created for His creations?

@Olaadegbu: « #392 on: Today at 06:25:38 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: bashy_demy on Today at 06:55:33 AM
@OLAADEGBU what your problem about sweetnecta answering the question am fast asleep i just wake up and he has answered your question so acceot them as my answer and you have to answer his own Question and you have said what i want to hear you dont believe in Prophet Mohammad that exactly what God is talking about when he said he will raise him up to himself and judge him from his believer, When Jesus is going he said something about another Messiah wish i believe almost every prophet said something about the next prophet but you seem dont believe in Jesus or the Messiah he talk about, so you are not his follower then

Welcome back to earth. Sweetnecta has to answer for himself and not for you. Ok I believe that Muhammad is the prophet of Allah and that Allah has no son, is that what you want to hear? It will be better for us to agree to disagree on the beliefs that are different and let us move on with what we share in common. It is your qur'an that said that Allah would terminate and raise Jesus to himself is that not so? I don't know what you mean by another Messiah maybe you are mistaken it for another Comforter all in an effort to smuggle Muhammad into the Bible but it would be better if we stick to the subjects we agree on. Lets move on with with nature of sinfulness that we share in common and see how the decalogue deals with it.

The question is: Have you ever told a lie?[/Quote]He said he takes my answer as his. That should satisfy you, instead of you chomping by the 1st bold. If you believe what you said above about Muhammad [as], it is better for you. It is obvious in the 2nd bold that when the original conversation was being held with Jesus, he Jesus [as] was on earth, the appearance of the statement in the Quran is in form of a story of old being told to Muhammad who appeared 600 years after the existence of Jesus on earth. From your Bible, Messiah is an anointed entity. Let me ask you, how many entity/entities anointed? Name anyone else or thing anointed, you can call him/it a messiah, too. In Islam, no one is recorded for a single sin, until s/he reaches age of puberty which we can say at the latest, 15 years old. That is different from your christianity which stains you with the sin of Adam and Eve, people who were already forgiven, while still your Bible stated that whoever sins bears the brunt of his or her own sin, not somebody bearing for him.



[Quote]« #393 on: Today at 06:34:00 PM »

Quote from: vedaxcool on Today at 09:33:47 AM
@Sweetnecta and Bashy_demy

You guys are really Pounding this Oladeegu guy OH! the beating is making him swallow His words.

Jesus is no longer son of God but now a Prophet of God, the fruits of days of refuting their lies. ALLAH is no longer the moon god to Oladeegu, but has become the Sole divinity - The one God- and Creator. Alhamdulilah may ALLAH open your eyes to the truth.Amin

@Sweetnecta and Bashy_demy; May ALLAH strenghten your Hands and reward you abundantly in the strive(Jihad) against Polytheism and Trinity_Polytheism. amin

It is a good thing that folks are crawling out of the woodworks in their numbers when they sense Jihad but why don't you shealth your swords for a moment and address the nature of sinfulness? This is not about winning a debate it is about addressing what is important to our souls so that you will be able to use your zeal with knowledge.

The question is what you omitted when quoted my points:

Have you ever told a lie?[/Quote]While no one has a sword, Jihad however is simply all kind of goodly struggle. That is different from Harb which is exclusively war. We in Islam do not believe that a child is born with any sin, though s/he may grow up to commit many, the reason the door of repentance and forgiveness is always open, until when death slammed it shot. Dont forget that we in Islam are not in the habit of revealing our secret to the public as if one is confessing. We do it privately directly to God Almighty Allah. If you Olaadegbu have told a lie at least, then accept it as a sinning nature acquired as you experience the world,but not telling a lie from your mother's womb, since Jesus actually believed that children are "INNOCENT", meaning sinless.



[Quote]« #394 on: Today at 08:02:23 PM »

If it is getting too difficult for you to answer my questions, give me a "YES" or a "NO" to the following:

Have I always loved God my Creator with all my heart, mind, soul and strength? ____YES ___NO
Have I made a god in my own image? a god to suit myself? ____YES ___NO
Have I ever used God's name in vain? ____YES ___NO
Have I kept the Sabbath holy? ____YES ___NO
Have I always honoured my parents implicitly? ____YES ___NO
Have I murdered (God also considers hatred as murder)? ____YES ___NO
Have I committed adultery (including premarital sex and lust)? ____YES ___NO
Have I stolen (the value is irrelevant)? ____YES ___NO
Have I lied (including fibs and these questions)? ____YES ___NO
Have I coveted (been greedy or materialistic)? ____YES ___NO[/Quote]Why dont you represent mankind and answer your own questions. Move forward from there to what you are trying to get to. Evidently, you want a confession, which you will never get from those who are not even christians, while you personally hate the catholics who confess to their priests. Is there anyway you can overcome your phobia of moving your own dialogue forward, without a confession from any slave of Almighty God, The One True Lord of all?

@Olaadegbu: « #391 on: Today at 06:12:22 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 01:27:55 AM
While I am not an Angel, you are not in the position to receive my confession, since you or anyone cant forgive sins.

An one who tells lie is a liar. Is that what you wanna hear? Now you have heard it, and I have set up my trap to snap on you, right from your Bible.

We have established the fact that we are all born sinners, my intention is to address the nature of our sinfulness and how the spiritual nature of the 10 commandments is relevant to this discussion.

The question is: Have you ever told a lie?[/Quote]While I said I am not an angel is sufficient for your question, no Muslim will accept the bold with you, establishing your misconception about the condition of the new born, claiming that they come with the sin of Adam and Eve. You definitely forget that Lord God is Merciful and has forgiven them, on one hand and on the other hand, your Bible states that there is no transferring of sin, because whosoever sins is the one that will bear the consequence of the sin. In the Quran this is so if s/he does not seek Forgiveness, which is readily available, if sincerely sort. God is Most Merciful. Most Forgiving. Most Compassionate.

@Olaadegbu: « #390 on: Today at 06:07:45 PM »
[QUote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 01:23:14 AM
@Olaadegbu: what you have done, oh magician is to move the goal post to a different direction. Lets educate each other for a moment.

If your Bible does not count Adam as a prophet, Enoch must be a prophet. If your Bible fails to count Noah as a prophet, Abraham must be a prophet. If your Bible fails to call all of them and Lot, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and Joseph, but start with Moses, know that the Bible has failed and lacks robust information about the world of Prophets.

In addition to these people and before Moses, there were Hud, Salih, and Shuaib [AS to each]. Hud, Salih and Shuaib are not from the line of Isaac, but rather long before them because after Abraham made his prayer for his bloodline to be the exclusive prophetic family for mankind, no prophet was raised except that his root is of Abraham [as].

Go to the Quran and learn. You will see that the world is larger than the children of Jacob. I named many prophets that are not even of Abraham bloodline, older/earlier than Abraham, in fact.

There is no doubt that there are prophets that are outside the line of Abraham but if you read me properly you would realize that I am addressing the common grounds that we share. All the prophets of God before Abraham that were not mentioned by Moses in the pentateuch falls outside my interest. There are many gods which are false gods but I addressed the only God that I know as the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, and if this is the God you serve then we are getting somewhere unless you want to tell me that you serve a different god.[/Quote]Was Noah not a prophet according to Moses? Is God not One Lord, according to Moses? Was the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as you want to limit the Majesty of God not also the God of Noah before He became just the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and no others (prophets and notable people apart from these 3 person (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I intentionally write 3 person in stead of 3 persons to demonstrate 3 person in 1 God phenomenon).

Now lets not digress into our differences, wherever you think we differ you can point that out so that we can leave that out of our discussion.

I pray that that the speaker turns her life around and accept Islam.

I also pray that the audience and those who shall view the video piece get it and consciously choose Islam.

I pray that God Almighty rewards you with goodness for your effort of posting this piece.

And when Jesus gave the litmus text in order to sift out the true prophet which he said is the spirit from God away from the false prophets which were not spirits from God because they will say falsehood, we see that at least a true spirit of God will come in the future.

That is even demonstrated further by Jesus saying that that true spirit from God will say to people that Jesus was the "Messiah", a title that Jesus is identified by, just like when Abraham is identified by the title "friend of God".

Messiahs are Christs.

What is Messiah or Christ, except the person anointed not less by God Almighty?

Was Moses not anointed as a messenger like messengers before and after him, even like Jesus was anointed?

You bet ya.

Bad thinking will make a person think that just because carries the title Messiah, others are not.

Abraham was called the friend of God. Does this mean other Messengers and Prophets were not? It does not mean that.

Jesus was called The Word of God. Does it mean that others are not? It does not mean that.

Fake Messiahs and Christs are those who are not anointed by God, but claimed they were. They are false Messengers and or Prophets.


Is any of these men among them; Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Lot, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, Samuel, David, Solomon to name a few more, Jesus and Muhammad? You bet none of them is a false prophet [AS].

Ignorance is a darn disease that when it comes to religion, afflicts the soul and the heart.

[Quote]« #379 on: Today at 12:24:05 AM »

@Sweetnecta,

Where were you hiding when you left bashy_demy to answer all the questions? Is it now that you are creeping out of the woodworks to say that you see a sly fox? Pick it up from where bashy_demy stopped and answer the question:

Have you ever told a lie?[/Quote]While I am not an Angel, you are not in the position to receive my confession, since you or anyone cant forgive sins.

An one who tells lie is a liar. Is that what you wanna hear? Now you have heard it, and I have set up my trap to snap on you, right from your Bible.

@Olaadegbu: what you have done, oh magician is to move the goal post to a different direction. Lets educate each other for a moment.

If your Bible does not count Adam as a prophet, Enoch must be a prophet. If your Bible fails to count Noah as a prophet, Abraham must be a prophet. If your Bible fails to call all of them and Lot, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and Joseph, but start with Moses, know that the Bible has failed and lacks robust information about the world of Prophets.

In addition to these people and before Moses, there were Hud, Salih, and Shuaib [AS to each]. Hud, Salih and Shuaib are not from the line of Isaac, but rather long before them because after Abraham made his prayer for his bloodline to be the exclusive prophetic family for mankind, no prophet was raised except that his root is of Abraham [as].

Go to the Quran and learn. You will see that the world is larger than the children of Jacob. I named many prophets that are not even of Abraham bloodline, older/earlier than Abraham, in fact.

@The Poser: The God is Allah.

Allah is The God.

Olaadegbu is a funny man. man.

suddenly he accepts Jesus to be a prophet, just like Moses is.

I'm sure he is working his way in into bringing Jesus back as some kind of special hero over and above everyone, and probably equates him to be a "god" in the way of sinfulness nature of man and 10 commandments.

sly like a fox. I can see the deceitful game making in road here.


Olaadegbu will quickly throw in his gimmick, be it the cartoon or some other thing. a different kind of Jesus will come up having more than prophetic attributes, but those of God of OT, you will see the magician Olaadegbu at work.

All in all, there is a singular God, Perfect in all His discriptions while the rest of the deities are mere gods, worthless in all respect.


@Olaadegbu: [Quote]will like to remain on course, that is, on common grounds. I believe all the prophets of God and according to my Bible all these prophets are Jews and as you can see that Muhammad is not a Jew and does not appear in my Bible. So, let us not go into areas we disagree on as there are lots of them. Let us move on from the known and later on to the unknown.[/Quote]Please give me the name of the first prophet according to your Bible. Also provide me with the name of the first Jew. I wanna establish from you that before the first prophet there were Jews, or at least the first prophet was a Jew, being the beginning of Jewry.
Was Adam a prophet and a Jew? Was Enoch a prophet and a Jew? Was Noah a prophet and a Jew? Was Abraham a prophet and a Jew? Was Lot a prophet and a Jew? Let me stop here for the magic man to perform his false miracle, by a throw back of the Jewry time all the way to Prophet Noah at least. Yet it is Jacob that was the father of Judah, if at all, Judah being the first Jew.

@The Poser; It is by the Grace of God we see every moment. And every moment is a New Year, a private celebration, thanking God therefore for preserving our lives. Some will see the day time but will expire before it is night time, or during the night.

Others will see the night and will expire before the day breaks, or still during that day without the darkness of night reaching them alive, again.

We should live our lives as if we shall never die, hence not be bugged down with the inevitable; death that knocks at our doors at least many times a day.

We should live our lives as if we shall not see the next moment, hence minding our deeds, becoming God Conscious and believing in Him in the way He has ordered.

There is no god save Almighty Creator God Lord Who is One, without partner in His Authority.

^^^^^^^If the usage of the statement[s] from an individual is the sign of reverence of that person, Paul beat jesus hands down.

However, who ever takes religious advise from Olaadegbu should take h/her place on the line leading to hell. sorry lake of fire.