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Olaadegbu is a comic, joke, a laughable.

On post 24, he said the evolutionists practice "Blind Faith".

Is it not Blind Faith christians practice in many glaring issues, as in the begotten son?

Can you proof how a man from his mother's womb is the begotten son, when Adam, Eve were not even children, since there is not even a mother for either?

^^^: Can you tell me if the Jews practice "Baptism"? And while I ignore you.Kola Oloye on inviting me to KUFR and fire of hell, the below is worthy of inquires.

@Kola Oloye; « #143 on: Today at 10:00:42 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Imoh byron on Yesterday at 10:11:43 PM
Na wa oh¿ U don"t need to quote all these BIBLE chapters for us to believe u.
A LIE IS A LIE¤
Grin
You mean 'Walai Talai'-Na lie you lie? Grin
Let me blow the trumpet.An assignment was given to me saying:[b]Go ye into the world and preach the gospel. . .
The gospel of our Lord, Jesus Christ.[/b]I want to see you in heaven.I'm not preaching religion because it is a bondage.[/QUote]Please tell me who has bigger responsibility to the "Whole Wide World", you or Jesus, who specified that his mission is to the "Children of Israel", only and no one else? Do you also know that the township of Nazareth is in the nation of Galilee, based on Luke 1 verse 26? If this is the case there were 12 Nations of the children of Israel, founded on their 12 sons of Jacob.

Is this not the world that Jesus was talking, since he did not have a single non-jew in his discipleship? How can he tell you to do the things he himself did not do?What a minute. Maybe you are right. He can tell you to do the things he himself didn't do. Like the greater miracles/things shall you do, which has not been actualized, even one time in over 2000 years? When will you grow a limb of an amputee for him , in the name of your god? Kola. I'm asking you?



[Quote]Kola what are you preaching?
JOHN 3:16. For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son. . . .
Except a man repent and be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.[/QUote]You are a man Kola. From the male gender of the human specie. You are a son of parents. A brother of siblings. A nephew of uncle and aunts. A father of children. A husband of the mother of the children. How is Jesus a begotten, now? I was look back at Luke 1 verse 35, and all of a sudden I want you to experiment it with the Mrs for us, and hear what she says, afterward, about sex or no sex. Can you do that for us, after all you are both legal for each other and its for a good cause; reinforcing your belief, against the muslim's disbelief.

Disclaimer; Unless you are ready for another child, your acting it out is a danger to your wallet because you will pay through the roof, (NAira, Naira). Whats sicken about verse 35 among others, is that the Virgin Mary actually got it from 2 entities at the same time. Virgin still after it!
35And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.



[Quote]Don't forget that Muhammad ran away Grin Jesus laid down his life.
The difference is cleeeeaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.[/QUote]Hijr means many things including traveler,Rocky Tract. Did Muhammad (AS) run away? Let see how he left Makka. Verse 9 of Surah Yaa Siin, was read on the lines of "Killers" in his path, pouring sand on their head as he passed in front of them to his destination. Surakah who was a slave sent to follow his tract, who later became a muslim, reported that the horse, he Surakah was riding on began to sink as they get closer, until he saw the Messenger (AS) and Abu Bakr (RA), and knew that these were true to their cause.

If Muhammad were to have ran away as you claimed, he has followed tradition of noble men; Ibrahim, Yaqub, (Jacob from your Bible), Musa and isa bin Maryam (AS jami'a).

And did Jesus laid down his life? Yelling out belies such a claim. Who laid down their lives; the sacrificial son of Ibrahim. A boy not yet 30 who was a fearless believer in the cause of his father (AS). All true prophet did (AS). Obviously, Yahya bin Zakariyyah (AS). If you said Jesus preached the message assigned to him, I will agree that the true message was delivered to those who were to receive it. And not the lies you are drunk on. He was lifted up to save him from the pursuit of his enemies.

The ignorance of Kola Oloye.

Proof: Muslim parents, and from Muslim household. They have let him be, even has he had shown ungratefulness to the parents who educated him. If Christianity is so Right, why haven't you invited Iya and baba Egba to it, and see how real 3 gods are?

Kola Oloye is judging Islam by the actions of Muslims. The reality should be the other way around, muslims should be judged by Islam,if they are good muslims or not. Its absolutely naive to use muslims to judge if Islam is good or not.

The yardstick therefore be that you put the holy books of world religions side by side and determine the one that will be on top, fully Glorifying God and allowing humans to be humans, with faults, and not the unattainable esoteric plain that even Jesus himself didn't reach by his yelling out in the blame your Master "my God, my God, . . . . why has thou forsaken me?"

@Tonye-T: « #176 on: Yesterday at 02:55:24 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on October 31, 2010, 07:30 PM
And Tonye-T ran underground, thinking he did something wonderful. He said it is superstition. I sure hope he knows the definition of superstition. And he needs to tell us how any of the ahadith, deceiving acts of satan, is superstition.

Sweetnecta,

Did you say i ran underground for exposing your prophet Mo and his supersititions. . .that my friend is pathetic. Let me show u my stands in Islamism

- I believe the writings about the life and words of Prophet Mo' in the Haddiths are true

- I believe the writers wrote those accounts with the full consent of the prophet himself acknowledging them as true

- I believe the Haddiths have enjoyed the best of preservation any ancient writings would have, considering the sacredness in which they must have been kept. meaning, the Haddiths were not and have never been adulterated.

Hear this, Islamic scholars of Haddiths believed and attest that the prophet hated the sound of bells while growing up as a child. . .and so when he said Bells were Shaitan's instrument about 30yrs later, Scholars believed this were superstitions coined in by the prophet to make his followers believe BELLS were evil.

Now my friend, if great Islamic scholars believed your prophet made some superstitions WHO ARE YOU TO SAY NO. I am not here to spend time teaching you, so i'll ask one question and pls be kind to throw in your answer. . .can you TELL ME AND FELLOW NAIRALANDERS on this forum that you do not believe the words of the HADDITHS?. . .we can start from there.[/Quote]The bold was your objective and intention of your Thread, tiled "Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious!", and not "Muslim, please prove me a liar that the ahadith do not exist". There is Big difference between the two. I do hope you are educated?

@Tonye-T and all Nairalanders: « #183 on: Yesterday at 05:13:00 PM »
[QUote]In my usual mood of generosity. . .me feels i should give my readers some reasons to LOL Wink

Quote
Abdullah Al Araby revealed that Mohammed said, "The deceased person is being tortured in the grave not for a great thing to avoid, it is for being soiled with his urine. " Vol. 2:460

Imagine the prophet saying Urine on your clothes will bring punishment from God. gooosh this is too hard to bear. . .like seriously what was Mo' thinking when he taught that.

OK! let me explain. . .Al Araby said Mohammad was told that one of his unloyal servants had passed out during his night sleep and this servant had health issues such that he passes urine and faeces on his sick bed. The prophet felt the best way to wish the dude farewell to the life beyond was to publicly teach another superstition saying that "when someon dies, he will not be punished for not doing a great thing but for urinating on himself. Grin Grin Grin Grin

Now fellow NLs, how on earth will you reconcile this statements with a little baby who is prolly in his bedridden state by virtue of his/her age and then dies. Mohammad said such a baby will be punished in death for bedridden. gooosh! what a religion! Undecided Undecided Undecided[/Quote]Among the 3 so called Monotheistic religions, Islam, and I repeat it again, islam is the only one of them who does not believe in ORIGINAL sin, which the Christians say Adam made man inherits, and the Bible never stops blaming Eve for it.

Islam says that the PEN, meaning (RECORDS of Right or wrong deeds) are lifted for 3 groups of people;

1) The young until the age of puberty!

Tony with these two above, where is a little child made to make salah which requires that the body and cloth is in cleanliness?

And if an adult is soiled and does not know it, he is forgiven because he does not know, and it is only when knowledge is involved that the ahadith applies. Sometimes a person thinks he or she has some discharge. He or she goes to the private and examine it. Nothing is found. If after this something discharges, and one does not have the knowledge, there is Rahmah from Al Rahman, unlike your religion that only by spilled of the blood of innocent that forgiveness is attained.

By the way the other two whom the Pen is lifted for are an unconscious person, like in sleep, coma and a mad person with mental disease.

@Tonye-T: « #182 on: Yesterday at 05:00:52 PM »
[QUote]Quote from: vedaxcool on Yesterday at 04:43:47 PM
Sweetnecta Tonye is obviously the Coward General of NL as even when we responded to his claims rather than explain or refute what we wrote he became mute like a sharp TV. The Coward
Probably became blind after seeing the thread:"Superstition; Tonye-t, come defend your ascertion, against Muhammad [as].". Coward is an understatement of the level of his timidity.

It is folks like you that make your religion a disease to the world at present today. . . first of all, your responses are nothing but pitiful, you respond like some little baby talking with so much H2O in his mouth or prolly your phalanges are too big and ichy thus you feel they should hit the keyboard every now and then even when you've got nothing to say.

Forgive me, but now i believe a follower can never be wiser than his master. What a shame! Grin Grin Grin[/QUote]As to the bold you are already not offending us, so need to ask for forgiveness. Now, how is a foloower can ever be wiser than his master, you ask? The Christians are wiser, sorry purer than Jesus.

My proof; Many of them said they have arrested Satan and he cant do anything to them, including leading (tempting them. Well, I have bad news for you; Your master, your god, Jesus, was tempted, many times.

he was driven to the wilderness to go and preach to the inhabitants of the wilderness. I thought he was a servant of God, from his own lips, why go to the animals when he "was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel"?

he was made to be hungry that he lost track of the seasons of fig fruits. The same fast that Moses made and was normal, still. Aaron made the same fast.

He was carried like a groom carries his bride or was it his mind he was carried through by Satan to the edge of the cliff. Played with him except push him over the edge, wanting hm to do it by his own hand. Thats a form of suicide you know.

He was toyed with by Satan dangling a common loaf of bread in front of him.

He was played by been taken on the top of the mountain (in palestine; now this is a cruel joke, because there isnt a really mountain out there), and shown the whole world, promised to be given by the one who "DECEITFULLY" claimed he is in control of it.

Whats so terrible is that you said he said he is Creator, while he said that he is a servant. You, tonye-t andal christians seem to be wiser than you master, because you claim that Satan cant tempt you. Am sure you will not let him pick you up to the edge of the cliff, either physical pick up or as a puppet on the string by mind game.You will not let anybody give you an unpackaged loaf of bread, or ask you to bow your head to him, or drive you to the wilderness to go talk to animals?

Tonye-T, you see that you are wiser than your master?

Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious!

^^^^^If the above is to challenge the Muslims to deny that there were teachings about Shaitan in his deceitful ways by the prophet, Tonye-T forgot to word the topic above to reflect it.

Rather, the Topic suggests that the ahadith were so unbelievably funny, that each was laughable, which in the body of the thread, as Tonye-T tried to excite his comrades, he suggested that the ahadith came about because the Messenger of Allah (AS) was superstitious about Satan!

Tonye-T, ready to defend your statement that Muhammad (AS) the beloved of Allah, His Angels and believing creatures (man and Jinn) was superstitious. This is the topic and welcome to your life.

Oh, about Umar bin AbdlAziz, there was no cousin of his that was a Kalifah. He was the grandson of Umar bin Khattab, who told his sons that one of them must marry the daughter of the Milk seller, because she was a true believer, telling her mother not to dilute the milk with water because Allah is ever watchful over all things.

This incident happened in Madina during the kalifah rule of Umar. He was considered the 5th Kalifah, as amatter of honoring him because he was a great leader, full of justice, with a lot of wealth in his time.

And while he was a great leader, it is a well know thing among muslims, the and all the way to the end of time, that the only one whose word is not to be doubted, or challenged among mankind is the occupier of the Grave in Masjid Al Nawawi, in Madina (AS). Why? Allah says "Take what Muhammad gives you, and reject what he forbids you".

We are waiting for your proof that any of the ahadith is borne of superstition, since you know Shaytan very intimately, while Muhammad (AS), a man with Prophetic office is wrong in what he says of Shaytan (lanatUllah). Maybe you belong in the group of those who there is Lana on them.But you will now have to choose it yourself.

@Tonye-T; « #16 on: Yesterday at 05:18:49 PM »
[Quote]Let me quote the words of the great Umar ibn AbdulAziz of the 8th century:

Haddiths are narrations concerning the words and deeds of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. I quote from my copy of the book - understanding the words of the prophet

inotherwords, Hadith are regarded by traditional Islamic schools of jurisprudence as important tools for understanding the Qur'an and in matters of jurisprudence.

If in case you fall short of knowing who Umar ibn is, he was of the Umayyad caliph who ruled somewhere between 717 to 720. He was also a cousin of the former caliph, being the son of Abd al-Malik's younger brother, Abd al-Aziz. He was also a great-grandson of the companion of the Prophet Muhammad, Umar bin Al-Khattab.

Logically, I'll mince no word to say he was the custodian of the LIFE OF THE PROPHET IN WRITING. . .true or false? true of course. I say this because no one would've known anything of the prophet without a book backing his existence. Now where you and your islamic folks seem to get it wrong with your undue biase and gullible sentiments is that the same acts you guys come here to oppose as untrue are the same acts you guys practise in your houses till date. Tell me i am lying?

And what baffles me is that no one has courageously stood up to say the things i wrote about the Propets teaching about Shaitan are lies. . .i was even poised to search the internet. . . and guess what? i found worse![/Quote]I wonder where your head is? Maybe you actually think with your elbows, like many people walking on the surface of the earth. Was your intention of the thread you started to have muslims challenge you that you are lying that such and such hadith does not exist? If that was your intention, the Topic of the thread betrayed you as the greatest Mumu that Nigeria has ever produced. I aught to know since I am a full blooded Nigerian.

Now here is the title of your tell, and can anyone help this incompetent nitwit what the topic suggest, if it really suggest that he wanted Muslims to challenge that they were not ahadith; Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious!

[Quote]60And his mother answered and said, Not so; but he shall be called John.

61And they said unto her, There is none of thy kindred that is called by this name.

62And they made signs to his father, how he would have him called.

63And he asked for a writing table, and wrote, saying, His name is John. And they marvelled all.

64And his mouth was opened immediately, and his tongue loosed, and he spake, and praised God.[/Quote]I think when the muslims said that Yahya (John) was a new name to the life of parents of John, the Chrstians have their usual joke. I guess the Joke is now the Bible.



[Quote] 65And fear came on all that dwelt round about them: and all these sayings were noised abroad throughout all the hill country of Judaea.[/Quote]If they feared this much, they did not fear when the Bible said that they saw the heaven opens with the Spirit of God coming down all the way from heaven and heard the voice of God! Did anyone see a joke and a lie specifically hearing God's voice and seeing His Spirit? Earlier in the Bible, during the time of Moses, the stubborn Jews said to Moses "We are okay, if you hear God and tell us what He says, instead of Him talking to us". They knew that they will die if that happened.



[Quote] 66And all they that heard them laid them up in their hearts, saying, What manner of child shall this be! And the hand of the Lord was with him.

67And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

68[b]Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

69And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;

70As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:[/b][/Quote]We see that the above is not about Jesus. If anything, it was about John, the son of "Prophet" Zacharias. You called him a priest earlier, here now we see him prophesied. Redeemed and horn of salvation were about John. The proof is in the Bible.



[Quote] 71That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;[/Quote]Were they saved from their enemies? Was there no oppression throughout his life, the lives of John and Jesus, respectively, and even crusades, spanish inquisition and holocaust not by the hand of enemies? While these were vile situations and times on any human group, or entity, I am using them to show the condition of the lack of truth from the Biblical writers.



[Quote] 72To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

73The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

74That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him [/b]without fear,[/Quote]Serving God was the singular purpose of man on earth. Jesus said "serve God". Quran in Surah Ghafir (I am almost certain; one of the Haa Miims) says that "And I did not create Jinn and Man, except to serve Me".



[Quote] 75In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

76And [b]thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;

77[b]To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,[/b]

78Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,

79To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.

80And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, and was in the deserts till the day of his shewing unto Israel.[/Quote]We see here that John himself was a prophet, giving knowledge to people of salvation by it the people will be able to melt away their sins, since they are following guidance. This shows that those who hear and obey John, and died before Jesus started his prophesy were saved, received salvation, without waiting for the so called "Blood she" on the cross!

[QUote]40And entered into the house of Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth.

41And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

42And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.

43And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

44For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

45And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.[/Quote]Unless there was idolatry in the of Elisabeth (And there is none), she would never have addressed anyone as the Bible recorded. The Holy Ghost would never have excited the wife of a prophet (you people say he was a priest), carrying a prophet in her womb to call a servant of God, still in the womb "Lord".



[QUote] 46And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,

47And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

48For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.

49For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.

50And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation.

51He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.

52He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree.

53He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.

54He hath helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy;

55As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.[/Quote]Who was Mary talking about in regards to His Power as Lord, then Savior, Who has the Power to do all the things, above, and them not reject the relationship with Abraham and the seed of Abraham, forever, except it is God Almighty, Who is able to do all things, while Jesus said, when he was full grown in his ministry that he is powerless, unable to do anything? We must not forget that Jesus was still days old in the womb of Mary.



[QUote] 56And Mary abode with her about three months, and returned to her own house.[/Quote]3 months she stayed. But she didn't go to Elisabeth until Elisabeth was 6 months along in the pregnancy. SO the Baby John should have been born while Mary was there with Elisabeth. But the Bible writers deferred the birth to later date, thinking no one will know. We in Islam know the inconsistencies.



[Quote] 57Now Elisabeth's full time came that she should be delivered; and she brought forth a son.

58And her neighbours and her cousins heard how the Lord had shewed great mercy upon her; and they rejoiced with her.

59And it came to pass, that on the eighth day they came to circumcise the child; and they called him Zacharias, after the name of his father.[/QUte]Who else circumcises on the 8th day? Who does circumcision, other than Muslims? It is the sign of relationship between God and Abraham. If the muslims, indeed the arabs are not part of the relationship, dont we know that as humans, they would have left it by now, though not all jews are circumcised.[/quote]

[Quote]34Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?

35And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.[/Quote]Can anyone tell me that the above is not sex, since baby was the result of the action? In the creation of Ada or that of Eve, was there such a Ghost come upon "it", and the power of the Highest overshadowed "it", considering that such a specie, human was not in existence before? if there was no difficulty for God to turn mere mud and water to Adam and mere rib of this man, Adam, to a woman, why the coming upon thee and the power overshadowing from both Holy Ghost and Highest on poor Virgin Mary? The french have a joke about "lucky" Pierre. That was taking it and giving it. Mary's case according to the Bible is double taking.



[Quote] 36And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.[/Quote]Elisabeth was described as sister of Aaron, above. Is Mary who is her cousin not also sister of Aaron? When the muslims say it, the christians laugh in jest. Well, christians, the jokes are on you.



[Quote] 37For with God nothing shall be impossible.[/Quote]So in this case the son of God is from the wife of God? Later God killed Himself, as a son of God? What the Bible writers forget is that there are some things that do not fit God, not because they are impossible, but His Majesty is Superior than these things. Examples; dying, eating, needing, tiredness, sex, having a child, having a consort, etc, all of them are acts left and created for man, including looking like one another. God is different and no traces of man in Him, and none of His in man.



[Quote] 38And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

39And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda;[/Quote]A city of Juda, means a city in the country of Juda. And Mary left without consideration for Joseph. Do you expect a virgin wife to leave her husbandand go on a journey? What about the virginity? I am emphasizing this so that the christians realize that Mary was no wife of Joseph.

[QUote]28And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

29And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.

30And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

31And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.[/Quote]The bold id the only thing that is fulfilled by those who say it is so, among all the other statement from the Biblical Gabriel. Everything else never materialized. This proves to be that this was a lie by the liars who put it there. Did Jesus own any throne, reigned over the house of Jacob? The jews aught to know. They thought of him as a king and a ruler so much so that they killed as they killed strong ruler Moses, King Saul, King David, and King Solomon!

[Quote]15For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

16And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.

17And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.[/Quote]Please note that the bold were qualities of Prophets, who are guardians of people/flocks to the commandments of God. It shows that even at that time there were Children of Israel who were lost sheep, to be herded back to "the Lord their God". Even drunkenness was disallowed, no alcohol or wine. Yet you could not have gone to a jewish ceremony or christian ceremony, even today with some wine or liquor or alcohol. Alcohol is now the blood of Jesus. If this were to be a sobriety test, Jesus and the christians will fail the breath analyser part. But John who was neither Jesus nor a Christian will pass with flying color.



[Quote]18And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years.

19And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.

20And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season.[/Quote]A man who by reason of old age doubted the message to him was made dumb for according to the Bible the duration of the pregnancy. What is appropriate for blaming God in the yelling "my God, my God,. . . . why has thou forsaken me"? I shouldn't such a person be made to taste the consequences of blame, if the consequence of mere doubt of an old man was to
remain dumb for 9 months?



[Quote] 21And the people waited for Zacharias, and marvelled that he tarried so long in the temple.[/Quote]But they were praying in the Temple! Where did he come out into?



[QUote] 22And when he came out, he could not speak unto them: and they perceived that he had seen a vision in the temple: for he beckoned unto them, and remained speechless.

23And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished, he departed to his own house.

24And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying,

25[b]Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on me,[/b] to take away my reproach among men.

26[b]And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,[/b]

27[b]To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph,[/b] of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.[/Quote]please note that Elisabeth was refering to the Creator in verse 25, and no one else. And she has been 6 months along in the pregnancy before Gabriel visited Virgin Mary in Nazareth in the Nation of Galilee, of the 12nations of Israel. Is Mary the wife of Joseph, because she was still a virgin? Did she reside in the same house with the man, and she still remain a virgin? Has any dowry been paid, as the customs are in legal marriages of semitic people, especially believers among them? If Mary was in the house with Joseph, imagine all the sexual energy in the air, and the fight of temptations?

[Quote] 5THERE was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.

6And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

7And they had no child, because that Elisabeth was barren, and they both were now well stricken in years.

8And it came to pass, that while he executed the priest's office before God in the order of his course,

9According to the custom of the priest's office, his lot was to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord.

10And the whole multitude of the people were praying without at the time of incense.[/Quote]The bold is so inconsistent that we should ask ourselves, why shall his responsibility be the exact thing that was missing, when he actually was in the temple for that very same thing? Is this God inspired or a storyteller who is tripping himself line after the line before it? We will expect that if God inspired it, and or Zacharias told a person this story, it should have an opposing line just above the other below.



[Quote] 11And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar of incense.

12And when Zacharias saw him, he was troubled, and fear fell upon him.

13But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

14And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.[/Quote]There is no place in the story where it is indicated that Zacharias prayed for what the Ange is now telling him, that the prayer is "heard". But the storyteller was mindful of which side of the Altar of incense the Angel whom Zacharias alone saw.

[Quote]This is how Mary conceived Jesus for your perusal and actions.
Luke 1

1Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most
surely believed among us,

2Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;

3It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,

4That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.[/Quote]I see a set up of "Once upon a time" phrase that usually begins "storytelling". But is the storyteller Luke, or somebody else, since it is "According to Luke" that we are dealing with here?Kola, I want you to sharpen your mind, so that you will learn something here. You may never change. But the truth is being told to you. Did Luke write to most excellent Theophillus?There is no proof he did and the passage above indicates some other person wrote at best, a listener to Luke, and at worse, who knows if it was a 10 generation hearsay.

@Kola Oloye; « #130 on: Today at 04:02:28 PM »
[Quote]This is how Mary conceived Jesus for your perusal and actions.
Luke 1

1Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most
surely believed among us,

2Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;

3It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,

4That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.[/Quote[I see a set up of "Once upon a time" phrase that usually begins "storytelling". But is the storyteller Luke, or somebody else, since it is "According to Luke" that we are dealing with here?Kola, I want you to sharpen your mind, so that you will learn something here. You may never change. But the truth is being told to you. Did Luke write to most excellent Theophillus?There is no proof he did and the passage above indicates some other person wrote at best, a listener to Luke, and at worse, who knows if it was a 10 generation hearsay.[/quote]

@Kola Oloye and all Christians; Luke 1 will be dissected in a minute. I will point out many inconsistencies in it. We will see that relationship with Abraham and God in the matter of Promise remained effective and was not transferred to Isaac.

We will see that Jesus was no more than an apostle of his Lord in the verse, considering that in other parts of the Bible he had said he was a servant, differentiating himself from his Lord.

We shall see that the nations of israel, according to tribes are what the christians con us to accept as "The Whole Universe". There are other matters that will become clear, especially when I present the Quran stories of the pregnancies and birth of Yahya bin Zakarriyah and Isa bin Maryam.
(AS to all the noble men). Mary was called the sister of Haruun (AS) in the Quran, and the christians have a feat. Is that not what she is called in the Luke, above? Was she already married to Joseph and she remained a "virgin" and had the freedom to travel about, even spending 3 months with "Elizabeth"?

When did God's spirit came upon her and overshadowed her? Where is the evidence? How is a human being without any physical difference from his people, the Jews or children of Israel (TYC), without having having any miracle that can be construed higher than what Moses did be now taken for God or son of God? What reason and rationale used, except pure delusion?

@Tonye-T: A thread has been created for some 3 weeks now titled "Superstition; Tonye-t, come defend your ascertion, against Muhammad [as].

@Tonye-T; Let the defense begins. Now, how is amy of the hadith about Satan a qualifies as superstition? Please define superstition, and apply it to any of the hadith.

@Kola Oloye and Olaadegbu: « #128 on: Today at 01:36:09 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: kola oloye on October 29, 2010, 08:40 AM

I have told you times without number that God is one.
I don't believe in 3 Gods.My faith stands on JOHN 3:16.

The Trinity does not entail three gods in one God, or three persons in one person. Such claims by muslims and other cults are nonsensical. There is nothing contradictory, in affirming three persons in one God (or three whos in one what).[/Quote]Lol at Olaadegbu's and Kola Oloye's Antics and Semantics. The laughter is over, so the scenario is this, guys; Two architects are talking about a project. The first architect just left a master piece designed a world renowned designer. That Project was a Single Building. He now met up with the other architect, to discuss another design by another world renowned designer.

This time, on the site were three Complete Buildings, each separate and fully Complete equal building to one another every respect including in function and in form, too. The Architects began their critiquing of the two projects, between themselves; One of the architects who does not know that fully formed and functional building is a building by itself said that because the 3 buildings are on the same plots, since he did not see boundary lines, though separate families in actuality live in them; The Owner of the largest Business in town, then next building his manager and the last building his current servant. The other architect heard the speech of the servant at the park, and consider that this servant is a master in his own right and therefore he is good enough to run the Business. In reality neither The Manager nor the Servant can be the Chairman, Who is Loved and the town will not run without him.

Each project in reality, the site with 1 Building is Owned by the Chairman. The site with three Buildings is owned the 3 in the three homes. Which one of the two sites has a more fitting place and position for the chairman, if they both cost the same exact amount of Naira to acquire? Considering that the site with 3 Buildings must have spent some part of that Naira amount on the Manager's Building and the Building that the servant lives, can the Chairman's home in this 3 in 1 site be as grand as the house in the other site without any manager and servant to share in the grandeur?

These two architects is being observed by a third architect who is telling them that in term of real grandeur, the Building that singularly occupies a site is befitting a real Grandeur far more than any of the three, even combining them as one, they will be inferior still, in all that they can muster of opulence.

Now, which of the three architects is best in his analysis of the two Projects?



[Quote]Quote from: kola oloye on October 29, 2010, 08:40 AM
In Christianity there is something called GRACE- "Go and sin no more"which Islam had no provision for.[/QUote]Islam has provision for it; Two ways;
1). If you come from Kufr like you Kola and Olaadegbu, you will achieve this state of "No sin on you", when you pronounce the kalimat Shahadah tain, with your hearth and mouth, "Laa ila ha ilAllah. Muhammadanr rRasulullah (AS)". Thus your sins are wiped off, and turn into good deeds, right there and then if you are a Jew or a christian. If you are others,your sins are just wiped off.

2).If you are in Islam already, you will make Tauba to Allah, asking for forgiveness from Him. InshaAllah you will be forgiven and you will know it by the fact that the same sin that you used to commit, which you have asked for forgiveness, you will not commit it, even though no human being is there to prevent you or witness it against you. Your soul and your heart,where your conscience and faith are will gear you to remembrance of Allah's SIGHT of you.



[Quote]Do you know that 75% of Muslims that we have in the world today are going about their daily businesses
with charms in their pockets?Their total trust is not in Allah.
Won tun ma ndi tira mo ara.Won a tun maa mu hantu.

Some are still worshiping ogun,telling you that: Imale ko ni ki awa ma se oro ile.[/Quote]If the 75% is true, then you 75% munafiquun (Hypocrites) in the rank of Muslims. These Munafiquun are even worse than you plain ol "Kafiruun". But both of you and the polytheists and mutamushriquun (atheists and agnostics) will not escape Hell fire. You will fall into it, without any doubt. InshaAllah we will have 25% of the muslims, who do not worship Ogun, who do not se oro ile, who do not put charms in their pockets, who do not di tira, who do not hantu, in Paradise. There are people in Egba who are from this. Now your goose is KOOKED!



[Quote]He that wants to serve God must serve him is spirit and in truth.
I rest my case.[/Quote]And making God inherit a son is not actually serving Him, but lying and insulting Him. Now this is where a case is actually rested; mine.



[Quote]You are in the best position to know the difference between the darkness in Islam[/QUote]I believe that Kola's parents are/were muslims, and by so doing Kola thought he was a muslim, too. No. Kola you were never a muslim. Your heart never accepted One God. You have been a rebellious child, with a story similar to the child in Surah Kahf, in the time of Moses. It is Allah Who prevented you from turning your family to disbelief, the same position you are in, now. By the way, who is the wife of Yahweh that gave Him a son? If there is a process in having a son, it is taking a wife that you have conjugal relationship with. Who is that for Yahweh? Let me lead you to what you cant say; is Mary mother of Jesus the wife of Yahweh, hence Jesus is the son of Yahweh? If you are not a liar, you too Olaadegbu, you people will be man up and give a yes. Anything less is just as I have said, my thought; you both are liars and blasphemers.



[Quote]and the light in Jesus,[/Quote]Is Jesus the only light? Lets examine Abraham, the father of faith. Jews say their religion emanates from him. The christians tie themselves to him. The muslims say he was a muslim. How about Moses; The jews who are honored holder of your Christian salvation say in him alone that they see light and guidance. He, Moses killed them and lorded over them as long as he was alive. The jews rejected Jesus and your Bible recorded that they killed him, cursed him. Now who is really the light, Jesus, unless you are a liar? Heck. You are,taking God to be 3 its enough evidence.



[Quote]having been a former Islamic teacher[/Quote]Which school were you a teacher of Islam? You are lying to make yourself look good. Right? There s not way that Abeokuta Islamic institution will let you teach any child Islam, unless you had a strong iman. Kola, you never had any sign of iman in you. None at all. And if it is Obinrin that got you into Kufr,I rest my case, again.



[Quote]but your belief or the lack of belief in the trinity does not affect your salvation, as you keep an open mind to the Word of God I believe that He will at His own time reveal these to you.[/Quote[Kola is done kooking,you can put a fork on him. Shaytan Olaadegbu is talking to Shayatin Kola. But are ending in the pit; Allah confirms it, if you die in your state.[/quote]

^^^^^How is Jesus superior if Satan carry him to the edge of the cliff, all but he didn't do was to push him, and see if he land without hurting?

Did he take physically or just by mind control, that he got Jesus on the edge of the cliff?

We can imagine what happened if its physically or mind control.

^^^^^Yommyuk didnt quote from what his president said, the entity he is his ambassador. Rather, he quoted from a guy who is neither the president or whom yommyuk is his ambassador.

How are you related to Paul's statement in Corinthians, while you are for Jesus and yet, Gospel is not worthy of quote ro support Jesus, your relationship with him?

@Image123: « #176 on: Yesterday at 08:57:51 PM »
[QUote]Quote from: Rhino.4dm on Yesterday at 07:09:12 PM
suicide is an act of terrorism. . . . Only a retarded god will commit suicide.
Agreed, but what's that your point again?[/Quote]You just agreed to it!

No wonder you take 3 to make 1, when between 3 and 1, there is 2.God cant die. God will not be seen by you or I in this world. And we will not see Him in the Day of Judgment wither if we are one of the disbelievers in His Oneness by associating anything with Him or saying He does not exist when we ourselves and all in the creation that are visible are signs that He the Master Controller exist and constantly Alive, Aware and Capable in every way.

@Johnkester: « #184 on: Today at 10:02:29 PM »
[Quote]Well, what do I really say,

They say religion and commonsense don't go together. That is the same as saying that there is no logic. But the whole of Creation shows consistent logic in all its development, manifestation and laws. Rice will bring forth rice and never otherwise - what you sow you reap, that will never change!

They say He had to allow His Son to be murdered so as to forgive their sins, When He already clearly stated in the commandments: Thou Shalt Not Kill!

His Son was murdered and even as He hung on the cross dying in the burning rays of the sun He prayed thus: FATHER, FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO! A clear indication that what they did was wrong, indeed a sin that needed to be forgiven.

Again, He did not commit any sins, yet He had to die for the sins of others; meanwhile it is clearly written WHATEVER A MAN SOWS, THAT SHALL HE REAP! No one else will do it for him. That is justice. But what is being disseminated today is definitely not justice, for there will be an outrage when a judge on earth knowingly sentences one for the crime committed by another. However, do remember: THE LORD IS NOT MOCKED for He is also Justice just as He is Love!

But some human beings with sordid motives have made a mockery of the Message of Salvation brought by Christ. They have turned the signposts contained in the Message in the wrong direction and thereby have become the most effective souls catchers for the darkness. However, if human beings have not allowed themselves to be burdened with spiritual indolence which makes it possible for them to believe the unbelievable even when the facts clearly state otherwise; they would have seen clearly that the religious doctrine of the death of Christ on the cross is self serving to those who have decided to commercialise the Message.

Peace![/Quote]Before the bold, you seemed to have been consistent with reality, vis a vis, a rice grain sowed shall bring forth rice grain[s], and s sinner shall be punished for it, a cause and effect reality syndrome. How is God the father of a human being who is clearly a servant by his own tongue? How is an innocent person by your statement going to dieso that Adolf Hitler does not die a second death? How powerful is this man in ability to serve as ransom for forgiveness, when God the Everlasting Cherisher, Designer of all, Most Powerful to Forgive, since He is the Only One Who Owns and Controls Forgiveness will now kill somebody innocent and even as your people say that he was sent for this purpose only cried out in a blaming bid to God, "my God, my God. . . . hy has thou forsaken me?" If this was your second in command,Mr. Johnkester and he say as the Bible reported that Jesus said, above, will you count him as a loyal Manager of your company, will you have full confidence in him,or he will jobless the following morning?

How is it possible that when it comes to responsibility, all christians want Jesus to be responsible for what should have been their responsibility. Is there a need for Jesus to die? None, since a sinner must be responsible for his own sin.

If Shaytan too Jesus on a wild ride to the edge of a cliff, and tell him to jump, should anyone, especially a christian be quick to say the Messenger of Allah is not just in his warning of the Muslims? SHould any of the warning be construed as superstition?

Here is there God.The Yahweh Who came on earth to defeat everything started out by being "CARRIED" to the edge of a cliff?
Was it physical carrying as a man will carry his wife? Was it mind carrying that by suggestions Jesus followed the order of Shaytan in his heart even until he got to the edge of the cliff that he now begins to remember he was wife Yahweh, or Yahweh or son of Yahweh?

Either condition diminishes Jesus as even a true Prophet of God, though the Christian calls him God. And either condition elevates Shaytan as the one in control between the two. Alhamdulillah that am a muslim. If I were not, but a christian, that verse is completely enough to run me out of it. I can not worship a God that looks like me, insignificant to the Universe, and definitely not the one that Satan is able to play as it did Jesus of the Bible.


But many people, including all the muslims on nairaland, me included are waiting for Tonye-T to tell us his proof of how any of the ahadith is superstition.

@Chyz1: As sSalaamualaykum wa Rahmatullah, first.

Is there a need for Hadith? Yes.
Proof; There is no where in the Quran that the rakah of any Salah is mentioned. Not Fajr. Not Dhur. Not Asr. Not Magrib. Not isha.
You know about them from hadith.

It is from hadith that you know that Wudhu can have 3 times of watching of the face, the arms that Allah mentioned in the Quran.

It is from Hadith that you know that the feet can be washed, and not wiped as Allah said, when you are not wearing anything over your feet when you lost it and want to make a fresh one.

It is the hadith that tells you how long you can have your feet covered,when you are home and when you are in a journey before washing your feet, again, when you make fresh Wudhu.

It is the hadith that tells you that in wudhu, you can wash your hand, rinse your muth, sniff your nose, clean your ears, three times, except in the ears. It is from the Hadith that you know that you can wet your beard after washing your feet in wudhu.

It is in the hadith you know how to make Qudhul (showering). Shaving your private part, trimming of the armpit hairs, finger and toe nails, etc are from Hadith.

It is from Hadith you know how to sleep and not sleep on your stomach.

It is from hadith you know about Miswak, entering using and leaving the toilet. Eating your meals and combing of your hair, including oiling it, perfuming your body, etc are all from Hadith.

Quran says "Obey Allah and obey the Messenger". Quran says "Whatever the Messenger gives you take it. Whatever he forbids you stay away from it". Quran says "Answer the Messenger when he calls you for what will bring you life". Quran says "If you Love Allah, Obey the Messenger and Allah will Love you and shall Make your affairs right, and shall have Mercy on you".

Is there any of these you disagree with?


And as to if slam will be incomplete or if Quran is Incomplete, is not what I have said. Neither is deficient. What I am saying however is that the Sunnah of Muhammad (AS) can't be discarded because you have some Kafiruun making fun of what they dont know, since the Jinn named Iblis, Shaitan has deluded them to think Shaytan is not waylaying believers in every which way he can.

Read Surah Jinn, my dear brother. It is powerful. Iblis, Shaytan is working on his own kind in nature, the Jinn, the reason they are not all muslims. Your Jinn cant be muslim if you are as a "Ins" a disbeliever. As a believer, you have to be working constantly on yourself so that your Jinn does not delude you out of Islam.


If Shaytan deceived our father Adam (AS), after refusing to obey the command of prostration to Adam, do we think that from Surah Araf (the Height) that Shaytan will not be doing all he can to seduce us?

I am on the side of Muhammad bin Abdullah, Rasulullah (AS).

The guy called Almuhandis has pride like Fir'awn, Shaytan [and it wss the source of their doom].

why is it forbidden and against many laws of nations where christianity dominates?

By the way this is a good Video on Youtube, Titled 'Israel Secret Weapon part 2'

@Aletheia: « #109 on: Yesterday at 12:56:46 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Mudley313 on October 29, 2010, 11:10 PM
@ alethia. so just a few vague claims of historical accuracy now automatically makes the bible the word of god? so, can any other texts or books that is historically accurate be attributed to your imaginary god too?

I fail to see how what I posted above could be considered vague. Perhaps you would care to enlighten me? BTW I just listed a few; there are numerous other examples.

Quote from: Mudley313 on October 29, 2010, 11:10 PM
Putting aside all the atrocious morality inherent in the bible, i hope you do realize that the bible was copied, by hand, over and over and over again to get at what we have today. We don't have an original, or a copy of the original, or a copy of a copy of a copy of the original. If you ever played the childrens game 'Telephone', where you start with one sentence and whisper in a circle through 15 or 20 kids and then look at the first and last sentence, they are entirely different. We have the last little kids version of the Bible.

What you wrote above would seem to suggest that you have scarcely examined the evidence for yourself, but would rather rely on second-hand hearsay. No one denies that the bible was written by hand prior to the advent of the printing press. But part of the miracle of its preservation is that unlike in the normal course of things like the game of Chinese Whispers that you referred to above, it is a faithful and accurate transmission of the original text. How so?
For example the Dead Sea Scrolls discovered in 1947 are dated from the third century B.C. to the first century A.D. These manuscripts predate by 1000 years the previous oldest manuscripts. They represent every Old Testament book except Esther (as well as non-biblical writings). There is word for word identity in more than 95% of the cases, and the 5% variation consists mostly of slips of the pen and spelling. Prior to their discovery, the thousands of earliest extant manuscripts dated from 100 to 300 years after the originals. Virtually all of these manuscripts are identical. We find that despite the gap in time between the Dead Sea Scrolls and the other later manuscripts: there is virtually no difference between them: proving that there was no corruption of the text in the intervening years.[/Quote]I am assuming that you have a first hand examination of the dead sea scrolls, yourself, otherwise you will fall into the same category, as in the bold, above, of your accusation?



[Quote]Now contrast this with earliest extant copies of other ancient work
Caesar—10 copies—1000 year gap

Tacitus—20 copies—1000 year gap

Plato—7 copies—1200 year gap

And yet despite the paucity of material and distance in time removed from the original copies, there is little doubt about the authenticity of Caesar, Tacitus and Plato. There are over 5000 ancient manuscripts from the period of the late first century (within the lifetime of eyewitnesses of the events of Jesus' life) and onwards, and they all agree. So where is the corruption of the text that you allege?[/Quote]I guess you did not consider the fact that when they began to pen the "Bible" as in the form of the "Dead sea scrolls", it was already a corruption? Consistency does not mean accuracy or truthfulness. It simply means that the lies continues in an unbroken chain. My proof; Ishmael was slated to be as a wildass. Unless, it means something else, which you must tell us here, and right away, with evidence, how is this so? What wildass like act did "Ishmael" can be attached to? Well, I will wait for your answer, so that I know if you finally discover the lies in the consistency of the manuscripts.



[Quote]Quote from: Mudley313 on October 29, 2010, 11:10 PM
And by the way they're so many historical and scientific inaccuracies in that your bible written by a bunch of ancient megalomaniacs but it'll be foolhardy to try and point them out to one as deluded as yourself. Every rational thinking person knows rabbits don't chew their cud, bats aren't birds, insects have six legs, not four, Pi is NOT 3.0, the stars are not fixed in the sky to a firmament and the earth does not have four corners. To list all of the inaccuracies in the Bible would take a long time. But, for a start, here are at least four hundred: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html
Again with insults --- you refer to me as "one as deluded as yourself". Have I insulted you in any way? You pride yourself on being rational. Isn't it somewhat irrational and intolerant of you, if you cant have a conversation without hurling out insults? In what way then are you different from the religionists that you so dislike?
Is the value of pi stated in the Bible? I believe that is just a straw man argument set up by those who have a priori rejected the Bible. Can you show me where the value of pi is stated in the Bible? Alright then what is the exact value of something as irrational as pi?

"It may be stated categorically that no archaeological discovery has ever controverted a biblical reference."[/QUote]Can you tell us the route of the "Children of Israel" in the exodus of 40 years between Egypt and Jerusalem's Canaan, which is in reality next door, just after Gaza of this very minute? Just because the world has not gotten to it yet does not mean it is not available.

@Aletheia: « #104 on: Yesterday at 06:39:21 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on October 28, 2010, 05:00 PM
You cheapen God. man. You cheapen God.

No sir, it is you who cheapens God. If truly you believe that nothing is impossible for God, then you should realize that it is not impossible for God to incarnate in the flesh as a man.[/Quote]I'm sure then that you believe that God the father, as God the ghost got Mary pregnant by coming upon her and overshadowed her, to produce God the son, the incarnate? I am using your not cheapening God idea, as a man can read it. This is sexual intercourse.

If God didn't have sex with Mary, then God is not Incarnated! You can't have it your way. It s the right way or you are the cheapening man.


Aletheia, it is Joonu. Not Johaanu. Or your yoruba is the same Wishy washy questionable like Obasanjo's who says Oranyan (compulsory), instead of Oranmiyan, the ancient yoruba man?

@Chyz1: « #166 on: Today at 05:14:10 AM »
[Quote]That's why it is advised to stick to the Quran and not live by or adhere to the hadiths(man's own words).[/Quote]Whoever advised you didnt do a good job. It is from Ahadith that the numbers of Rakah of each salah is noted. With your statement that you hear the breathing of Devil, it is absolutely insincerity to assume that Satan is not as the Messenger (AS) said he is. If you have any proof against it, please tell us, since you hear the breathing of Satan, youmay just ask him which is which, the correct ones or all of them lies. Then I know that you are actually with satan, he breathing on you heavily.



@dexmond: « #167 on: Today at 07:33:33 AM »
[Quote]Devil Sleeps in Our What?
Sahih Muslim 2:462
Abu Huraira reported: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) said. When any one of you awakes up from sleep and performs ablution, he must clean his nose three times, for the devil spends the night in the interior of his nose.


This explains why Muslims wash there nostrils. I think the best way to prevent satan from sleeping in your nose is to stuff your nostrils with cotton Grin Grin Grin[/QUote]Between the above hadith talking about the act of Satan on man, and this action of Satan on god Jesus, which one do you think satan can't do on Mankind? Which one of the two personalities, Jesus or Muhammad lost credibility by the actions of satan on him? Is it therefore prudent that the human messenger who is not a God, hears from God and warns his followers of the presence of Satan and the many evil ways he deceives? if Jesus is God and Muhammad is a human Messengerwhich one shouldnt have been tempted by Satan, since He is the Creator of Satan? If a worker who is not beloved by the Chairman has the gut to tempt him, will he remain on the business premise much longer?Yet today Satan remains alive, tempting Christians, and keeping them in his back pocket[s].

Satanic act on Jesus: Christ was being tempted in the desert by Satan. Satan told Jesus to throw himself down from roof of the temple. Jesus answered, "Do not put the Lord your God to the test" (Matthew 4:5-7).

hubpages.com/hub/Spiritual-Warfare-New-Testament-3-of-4 - Cached The Storms of Life; Jesus teaching his disciples to be mindful of Satan.

Jesus taught about what it will be like for believers here on earth. He likened them to a man who builds his house on a rock. This “rock” is the Word of God, for Jesus begins His parable with “Anyone who hears My words and does or does not do them, ” On the other hand, He likens unbelievers to a man who builds his house on the sand. He uses the analogy of “rains, floods and winds” to try to knock the house down. The house built on the rock will not fall; the house built on the sand will be destroyed.


Notice the authority Jesus took over the rainy, stormy, flooding ocean and winds when He and His disciples were out at sea. Did Satan think he could kill Jesus and His disciples in one swoop? The disciples were fearful, yet Jesus was sleeping. When the disciples woke Jesus up for fear they would capsize, Jesus rebuked the storm and it quieted immediately. Likewise, Jesus has authority over all storms that press against His children when we seek Him and trust Him.


Jesus taught his disciples about Satan's motives and how He came to give us victory over Satan: [b]"The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly."[/b]hubpages.com/hub/Spiritual-Warfare-New-Testament-3-of-4 - Cached

@Naijaking1: « #6 on: Yesterday at 12:20:31 AM »
[Quote]I say, extradite them to Israel, and that Alhaji Mogaji too.
Israel will be just happy to give them an August reception Cheesy[/Quote]Oh slave of the Jews, is Nigerian governance not good enough to decide the outcome of the crime committed on her soil, allegedly by both her citizen, 85 years old Alhaji Mogaji and foreign citizens, the 6 Iranians?

You must be a man who needs to get out of Nigeria and live in Israel. Trust me, Nigeria wil carry on without you. She may actually have her fortune reversed to GOOD. Please dont reply to me, because it is my hope that you go to the Jews and we Nigerians, especially lovers of Nigeria dont needyou to tellus to send our elderly man, muslims to the Jews.