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I would love Dave Hunts to stick with the Quran and show us any verse which states that Muslims can kill/murder innocent people. If he is going by the Bibles, then he should go by the Quran. How is this christian using 2 different standards on the same single subject? This is deceitful. Typical, will you not say Callotti, since you were able to say Gbam, above?

[Quote]Your analogy makes no sense. Even though modern computers hadn't been invented 1000 years ago, if it was possible to go back in time and explain the concept of them to a reasonably intelligent person from that era, he'd say "yeah, that makes sense". If you gave such a person the required knowledge and resources, he should be able to build a rudimentary computer, or write a program. In any case, people have been building computers for well over 2000 years (google the "Antikythera mechanism" )[/Quote]Dhubai is Paradise for many. Have you heard almost heaven? Thats the nickname of West Virginia.


[Quote]On the other hand, both the christian and muslim concepts of heaven made no sense either back then or now. They are both full of logical holes which were just as gaping back when Paul and MHMD were founding their respective religions as they are now. People have merely chosen to ignore those holes and accept that god and heaven exist through blind faith, because they don't have any better way of explaining things; or because of intellectual cowardice.[/Quote]What is above the sky is not "heavens"? Do you have a proof? What do you think is beyond the moon? You think there is nothingness beyond all the moving "heavenly bodies"? You think that the "exploded" body to all the bodies swimming away in their respective designed course, path, maintaining their positions, do not have a limited boundary [what is marking the end of their existence], where they will not be able to penetrate, rendering their speed to be zero, ending their journey? This boundary, if they can reach it before they lose speed and begin to return to their origin is the first heaven or simply "heaven". Your mind can't understand it does not to mean that it does not happen, in the same breath that a baby in the womb does not know he can be fed outside the womb without the umbilical cord.

even Islam raised the quality of northern women among their own population; Nana was a princess, poet and teacher. She was fluent in Arabic, Fulfulde, Hausa and Tamacheq and well versed in Arabic, Greek and Latin classics. In 1830, she formed a group of female teachers who journeyed throughout the region to educate women in poor and rural regions. With the republication of her works, that underscore women's education, she has become a rallying point for African women. Today, in northern Nigeria, Islamic women's organizations, schools and meeting halls are frequently named in her honor.

And before this, the hausa women who have no Islamic religion could not aspire to anything.

And when we dismantled the experiments of ink, kay17 termed it as allegory. Whatever it is, in the experiments, there is a single Controller, causing everything to happen.

Emofine, you are lost for words? The reality is that you will say "my God" in the right situation. It is a thing already in your genetic make up.

Your "BIG QUESTION" is easy for your Creator to answer. Look around; the answer is already there.

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Even the Hausa/Fulani are honored based on Islam, and nothing else.


Hausa/fulani are honored by who?[/Quote]It is Islam that gave the whole of the north the spine to talk about political participation, even wanting to be leader of the Nigeria, irrespective of academic achievements of the southern nigerians. What north has is Islam, the reason this person, a muslim southern man can consider them his brothers and sisters over non muslim southern man and woman. After all, I share nothing in common with the north.
The first Prime Minister of Nigeria had no University education while the southern politicians for the most part a University educated in specialized degrees suited for governance; Law, Political science, public policy, public administration, etc.

After the military rule, 1979 ushered in another non University educated president, while people with stellar qualifications had to serve under him; his vice president had Ph. D. and a renown architect. Tell me how is a grade 2 teacher training college man the boss of a Ph. D holder if it was not Islam that encourages him to seek the highest position in the land? Any quality the hausa/fulani axis has in Nigeria, and what hausaa or fulanis have in other african nations is borne on them because of what islam encouraged in man, the same way the arabs did not sit back immediately Islam of Muhammas [as] woke them from the slumber of abject poverty. They capture the persians in n time and turned them to psedo-arabs. Even Islam took over hausa/Fulani of Nigeria and many of you disbelievers even sa "Walahi" when you want people to accept that you are honest. Is walahi a hausa word? The futa jalon people "Fulanis" know that it is arabic; and if you doubt me, ask your ancestors in Mauritania; they have their fula or Polur language and "Walahi" is not part of it.

It is arrogance of slave that we make the owner number/cunt him [A yoruba adage that the ignorant man need to ask yoruba people who have time for him to explain].

If gender equality was preached by any religion, or society or even advocated by any man or woman, it got its fountain of water to nourish it from the muslim's Quran and its adherents; Nusayba was of one of the first advocates for the rights of Muslim women. Notably, she asked the Prophet Muhammad, "Why does God only address men (in the Quran)?" Soon after this exchange, the Prophet received a revelation in Chapter 33, Verse 35 that mentions women can attain every quality to which men have access. The verse also conclusively settled that women stand on the same spiritual level as men. She was viewed as a visionary who transcended her own generation.

Sometimes it is better to ignore ignorance thinkers; I should have just ignored you.
If you are thinking rationally, the Wright brothers of USA are given the recognition of being the first to fly. Is that really so? But why are they given this title except that every modern machine of flight after them follows their principle of design/machinery.

Muslim being inventor of chess is a claim in the above mindset and national geographic is smarter than you.

From National Geographic: 1001 of Inventions.
The enduring legacy of muslim civilization; third edition.

No religion on earth ever birth any civilization; Only Islam.
It raised the Arabs to the highest esteem.

Even the Hausa/Fulani are honored based on Islam, and nothing else.

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Imagine that you're on a camping trip. Are you jaunting through the Rockies, an earth-toned REI tent in tow?

Imagine that you're in a garden. Are you admiring the symmetry and scrupulousness of Versailles? Or getting your hands dirty in a community plot with rows of tomatos and kale?

It may be our tendency to assume our past times and modern luxuries are all thanks to earlier Western civilizations, but in fact, much of American culture is rooted in the Muslim world. Tents, gardens, libraries, herbal medicine, chess and jewels are all Eastern developments that we reap the benefits of today.

In the third edition of "1001 Inventions: The Enduring Legacy of Muslim Civilization" [National Geographic Society, $28.00], we learn about the origins and evolution of these apparatuses via a combination of ancient drawings and current photographs.

^^^ A 1K years back, some "Sophisticated pundits" would have said "how can rational, educated, rightly thinking people" say there is computer? Subhannallah. Today. Computers are even an academic tool.

It shows that when a person dies, he will reach a place he would not reach alive. He will discover that there is truly a fitting reward; Mercy for those who obeyed, then justice to those who have not received Mercy and they will get punished as the Judge Wills.

"God" emofine will cry out in definite situation[s]. but she denies God outside the specific situation[s].

@Pagan9ja: [Quote]simple experiment for sweetnecta:

take a glass of water. think of it as nothing. now add ONE drop of ink. that is one God.

now take another clean glass of water and using both hands, add TWO drops of ink at the same time. that is two Gods.


so therefore, if there is one God, there has to be many Gods at the same time!
[/Quote]In all your suggested experiments, I able to control [lord over] the glass, the water, the ink, etc, even my intentions. Yet I am nothing because I can't even control my heart beats; it has been regulated by its Maker. I cant control the flow of blood in my body. I can't make my heart stop and start it over. I can't make blood not flow in my body and then turn the "flowing process" on. Nothing about me I truly control out of human nature, the system The Creator has but in me.

But in your experiment, the ink does not have the ability to deny me of its identity, its turning the clear water somewhat to the ink color. The ink, water, glass, etc all obey their own nature, form and function because they have no freewill to act contrary. But the humans have freewill; we see many denying God, some making up gods, some assigning responsibility to nothingness. Mr. Pagan you even fashion your own god[s] with your own hands and tools that you control; you submit to what you created with your own hands; from your own thinking or thinking of your forefathers. You didn't choose paganism; it was chosen for you. That's not free thinking, a fair choice. I am a muslim because I adopted it personally after I find it sound and completely logical. I am grateful that my heart leaned to it from my birth. No judaism or christianity attracted me because judaism is tribal superiority on one hand and rejects further guidance on another. christianity made a god out of man, then made another out of a thing that they could not define. Paganism as i have said mold their own gods with their own hands; hindus make everything a god. Some others say there is no God and everything is accidental. But we know that there is always a causer of "accident". There is no accident that has no reason and why and a time before it and a time it starts and the aftermath of the accident. There is no accident that does not have an end.

We as humans had a beginning and a definite Beginner. We all have ending and a definite End-er. If the ink in the experiment do not turn the water to the ink color, I will throw away the ink as not worthy of its function. If the glass does not retain the water, I will throw away the glass for being unworthy. If the water did not pore or colorless as I need, I will throw it out unworthy of being part of my experiment. Each element or ingredient that function as expected, I will not throw out as unworthy. It means that I am happy with the performance of each. God is our Lord in this experiment; we are the ink, the world is the water and the highest heaven is the glass. The One Who controls all these, performing the experiment is God Who knows the end result even before He begins the experiment.

Its one experiment; even if it is more than 1 experiment, there is One Experimenter. God is ONE and He is not made, but He is the Maker. There are no many gods as the other guy is proposing, since he as a person is unique, if only by slightest degree on his finger tip. Can a no Unique Designer made him so specifically unique? And if there are many Gods, One will try to emerge as the Head, rendering the desires of the others worthless.

From the guy who claimed that "The Gods came together" for "a common purpose" to create the Universe, you seem to not be an evolutionist after all the "atheist" front you have been projecting? Since you are now a creationist by your "the Gods came together", tell us which God created death for those things that are alive, since you are certain that you are alive now, and in the future you are certain to die off? If they all created death of all they have done, for what purpose did they create the things to come to life?

What purpose would they want their collective masterpiece to die off; destroyed, disappear, comes to nothing? Which of the Gods created aging; withering, diminishing beauty, strength, vigor, power, knowledge, ability? Apart from the financial gain expected by the Airbus manufacturer for a repeat purchase by the one who bought the one that is now old and unworthy of airtime, will the manufacturer would have wished that his handwork go to waste bin?

Presenting argument without logical support is weak. Presenting spiritual argument with spiritual base, understanding is worse than weak; you can be an atheist and be a creationist at the same time. One of the two positions will be a statement of fallacy; you are not sincere to it; not holding it to be true. Gods came together for common purpose you said. That's a creationist talking, with multiple God head idea. Will you are a polytheist, I am a radical monotheist because I say there is Only One God Who is Complete and Powerful to do all thing He wants and wills all things into His Purpose and Order, Desire.

Few days ago, I learned that the worms that will consume the dead body in the deep grave is going to be created from the eyes and tongue of the dead person in the grave. This new information answered my curiosity of how a person decays, especially when I hear the yorubas say "don't eat worms in heaven", taking that heaven to start from the grave, assuming that it is not the grave they meant by heaven. It is the eyes and tongue that are responsible for most of our "sins". Imagine one is carrying the things that will eat him in the grave? I am sure you probably in your abject ignorance go against this without thinking first, or able to offer reasonable explanation of how worms gets to the dead person and feed on him.

[Quote]There are creators of what we see, go read the Hindu verders. . . .[/Quote]In normal situation, I will take Deols advise that the best answer for a fool, is silence which must be acted but not spoken or typed out. I making exception here by typing it out because this idiot thinks he is hot, like boko haraam, they needed to be put in their places. Hindu book called for no idol worshiping you slowpoke while everything is god to them. Hence the Creator is not seen. Except people like you, even the pagans know that God Almighty is not what they worship on earth, but He is beyond the highest plain; the highest heaven; ask pagan9ja in Hausa language.

[Quote]False, your arguments are so childish like that of a baby. . .the cause of the universe are many and not one. . . .They all came together around a common purpose and created the universe. . .Take a look at the Air Bus A380 jumbo jet, many people with a purpose came and built it. . .They all came together around a purpose and built the air plane. . . .Same with the Gods, they came together and created the universe, when two people or entities come about for the same purpose they can not render the intention of the other useless. . .did the people that build your house render the intention of each other useless?[/Quote]Name some of those who came together to build the Universe, if you have evidence. Talk is cheap. The jumbo jet has Iron in it; who created Iron; give us a name if you are sincere.The people who built my house had a master; the architect. The architect even have a master; the owner of the house. There is one owner. I don't think blood gets to your brain, the reason you lack understanding of how the world works.

[Quote]Not true. . .Once many entities come together around a common purpose they can agree and create what ever the want and maintain it. . .The Gods agreed, came together around a common purpose and created the universe. . .[/Quote]It is not good enough to just say the Gods and think we will fall for your baseless coming together with common purpose lie. Pick up the Bibles and see how Jesus was trying to get out the jam. But the God that has higher power over him, according to the Bibles gets His way. Think. I dislike slowpoke quality.

[Quote]All the Gods are true Gods. . . .[/Quote]name them, otherwise you are just an empty barrel.

[Quote]Neither should we serve any God that needs people to fight for it, tell people about him, build its temples, and tell people about it. . .he can do it himself if he is alive, no?. . .[/Quote]Idle hand and idle mind. God commands mercy and equity and right of self, including right of assembly; hence the places of worship are erected. Those who are angered sometimes repel the injustice by standing up to stop it. Is that s strange for your frozen brain. Many things are alive that you don't see with your naked eyes. Even under powerful microscope. God The Creator, you want Him to show you Himself when you ignore all the signs of His Existence, yet you believe so many microbes are around you? Misplaced priority.

[Quote]Lie, the Gods are many and they came together around a common purpose and created the universe. . . .The Gods do not depend on humans, they get weary, tired, sleep, exhausted or fatigue.[/Quote]Name the Gods that are weary, etc and I will show you fake Gods. Your thinking is fake. shameful soul.

^^^^ so the yardstick consists of living well and how long it is practiced?
was Adam an idolater or you don't believe a first person existed named Adam?

What was his religion?

Pagan9ja, i need a response from you.

@Emofine; DO you think that an educated person can not be ignorant in something, considering the fact that knowledge is continuum and knowledge about us and our environment may just be at the infant stage?
Is it not possible that there is a Creator of what we see, in addition to what we do not see or know? Or did all of these happened without a causer, and we see such an order in all that we know, a repetition?

If the causer is One can we all agree to say its a Higher Existence, a Being, our God? Or are there many true causers in this so wonderfully ordered existence that we are part of; human specie being just a small portion of the all? If there are more than one causer, the probability is that the interest of one may be sometimes different from the other[s], at a particular time. What such condition of different agenda may have on us and our environment will definitely be chaos. Is this not possible? Imagine 2 persons having independent control over a thing, both at the same time that each could do as he/she wishes to effect the dynamics and how it all ends. Do we think that one of these 2 overlords will not want to render the intention of the other useless?

Such is the idea of God with multiple entity in the God head. No one of them can be truly in control; each with different agenda will rid the others or render them useless.

Such in a sense is the mini God to True Single God Who is capable of acting alone, over the mini God and all that think highly of the mini God.

Should we serve God that needs to be fed, clothed, protected from the elements? None of them is Truly The God worthy of worship, especially when we make it with our hands, tools, factories.

God Almighty is One; Unique in every respect and Independent of us, while all depend on Him. Now that is the God I am inviting you to. Not what others can not present to be able to control all; My God does not get weary, tired, sleep, exhausted or fatigue. He was complete before the beginning and He has patiently appointed each his/her/its time.

@Dexmond: Who is the founder of your religion? Please tell us because neither Moses nor Jesus found any religion. Muhammad [as] did not find any religion because he was a muslim like us in islam, praying to his Lord based on commanded upon him in the revelation he was give. No messenger or Prophet [as] started any religion because the religion of Adam [as] held through fr all prophets and messengers [as].

[b]««~ALLAH'S COMPLETE JUSTICE AND MERCY~»»

It is related that a woman went to the Prophet Dawud (A.S) and said, "O Prophet of Allah, is your lord an oppressor or is He just ?"
The Prophet replied, "Woe unto you, O woman, he is the All-Just, Who never oppresses. What is your story."

She explained that she was a widow, with three daughters and that she provided for them by what she would spin with her hands. She explained, "Yesterday, I tied what I had spun into a red cloth to sell into the market place to provide for my children. As I was walking a bird came and snatched the red cloth from me and flew away, leaving me nothing to sell for the provision of my children."

As the woman was speaking to Dawud (A.S), someone came knocking on his door. He gave permission for them to enter and learned that they were ten
business men bringing with them one hundred dinars each. They said, "O Prophet of Allah, give this wealth to the one whom is deserving of it."

Dawud (A.S) asked them what had brought them to him with their wealth. They explained, "O Prophet of Allah, we were on the boat, the wind was very violent, and we were about to drown when a bird came and dropped a red cloth upon us. In this cloth was some yarn and with this we blocked the hole in the ship until the wind subsided and we vowed that each of us would give one hundred dinars in charity. So give that amount to whom you please."

Dawud (A.S) turned to the woman and said, "Your Lord does business for you in the land and in the sea, yet you ask whether He oppresses !" He gave her
the thousand dinars and said. "Spend this on your children."

Gems and jewels p.68[/b]

@dexmond: Whats eye opening about such a thread? Share your reason with us.
If Muhammad [as] had dictated this Book from his own imagination, he was a better genius than all who had penned any spiritual book, bibles included. Incidentally, the bible writers have not gotten it to its final single copy, yet [never mind that all the original collaborators and scribes have been dead for almost 2K years now]. I don't see the Christians and the Jews ever having a single Bible and Taurah they all believe in in their religion. However, The Quran revelation was correct at the first dictation; there is no second time, no option, no trial, no scratch that and write this instead.
Tell us what you see in trail and error, still an unending editing and versions. We wanna know or did you just write because you must write?

Plappville is challenged. She even turned Jesus to antichrist. Or did she rather than her and cohorts being the antichrist?
When Jesus prostrated to God and mentioned His Name as Ellah, Jesus was either an antichrist at that time or he was antichrist by those who described him as not prostrating to his Lord God, The Only Creator Whose Name is Ellah.

@Synthesis; I do not use the Bibles to worship. Bibles are not required for my type. But Taurah, Sabur, Injil, Suhufi Ibrahima wa Musa are some of the Books of God that I accept and definitely believe in. I also believe in the Al Qurani Karim.

Let me tell you the Mercy of God by an event that happened in the life of Prophet David [as], as below since we are talking about appropriate Name and or Attribute of GOD;

[b]««~ALLAH'S COMPLETE JUSTICE AND MERCY~»»

It is related that a woman went to the Prophet Dawud (A.S) and said, "O Prophet of Allah, is your lord anoppressor or is He just ?" The Prophet replied, "Woe unto you, O woman, he is the All-Just, Who never oppresses. What is your story?"

She explained that she was a widow, with three daughters and that she provided for them by what she would spin with her hands.
She explained, "Yesterday, I tied what I had spun into a red cloth to sell into the market place to provide for my children. As I was walking a bird came and snatched the red cloth from me and flew away, leaving me nothing to sell for the provision of my children."

As the woman was speaking to Dawud (A.S), someone came knocking on his door. He gave permission for them to enter and learned that they were ten
business men bringing with them one hundred dinars each. They said, "O Prophet of Allah, give this wealth to the one whom is deserving of it."

Dawud (A.S) asked them what had brought them to him with their wealth.
They explained, "O Prophet of Allah, we were on the boat, the wind was very violent, and we were about to drown when a bird came and dropped a red cloth upon us. In this cloth was some yarn and with this we blocked the hole in the ship until the wind subsided and we vowed that each of us would give one hundred dinars in charity. So give that amount to whom you please."

Dawud (A.S) turned to the woman and said, "Your Lord does business for you in the land and in the sea, yet you ask whether He oppresses !" He gave her
the thousand dinars and said. "Spend this on your children."

Gems and jewels p.68[/b]

@synthesis: [Quote]u r pretty smart!! however i still want to get to an agreed consesus on the agreed name of GOD Almighty.

back to my original post- can you clarify if the Hausa's have a name assigned for God almighty other than Allah[/Quote]Obangiji is a word in Hausa dialect to also mean God.
The yorubas have Oluwa, Eledumare, etc as Names of God. So its not surprising like all natives in their own dialects or group languages that The One God has more than 1 Name, but many Names.

@Synthesis: [Quote]Was @ a service recently, when the preacher said "oyah praise the Lord in ur native dialect" in d midst of my praising Him, I was repeatedly hearing Allah Allah, I opened my eyes to see a recently converted Hausa dude praising "God"
I asked him afterwards and he said Allah was God in hausa.
My poser is does God almighty have just one name? Or are we allowed to call Him different names?[/Quote]Did you really asked the hausa guy if he was a convert from Islam to Christianity, considering that not all hausas are muslims? Your pastor said praise God in your native dialect. The hausa christian said Allah is God in his dialect. He didn't say only the muslims among them say Allah to mean God and the rest say some other names. The pagans among them say Allah based on what this christian hausa person said. There is nothing that will affect islam if he was a former muslim. I am just asking if you knew from him that he was a former muslim, now a christian?

Olorun: Muslim God from this lips of this yoruba muslim.
Olorun: Christian God from the lips of yoruba christian on NL.
Olorun: Pagan God from the lips of yoruba pagan on NL.
Olorun: Atheist/Agnostic says God of those of us who believe there is God Almighty Creator from the lips of Seun Osewa the yoruba Atheist/Agnostic on NL.

So what was the Name of God before Moses' "I AM . . ."?
What was the Name of God before Abraham's "Yahweh"?

What was the Name of God in the time of Noah, a messenger from Him?

What was the Name of God in the time of Enoch?

What was the Name of God in the time of Cain and Abel?

What was the Name of God to Adam and Eve?

Or was God always from the beginning just the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? So Who was the God of Adam, then? What is the Name of the God of Adam?

I have left this issue solely that we discuss the Name of God relative to human existence. Otherwise I could task the Bibles and Christianity about the Name of God when there were no humans, before Adam was created, when jinns were the specie with free will on earth. Even before that, when Angels were created. Or even before that when God Alone was existing without the creations that we humans, those of us creationists believe to exist, even now.

Or are the Bibles; OT and NT not clear about the True Name of God Almighty the Creator?

@Brainpulse: ]Quote]^^ Before the eating was an act called DISOBEDIENCE to the WORD of their creator that the fruits from the Tree (life and death). Just as do not eat some deadly plants. The sin comes first from the act to eat, then death comes from the contents of the fruit(poison) because of adventure.[/Quote]Are you saying that the consequence of Adam and Eve "eating" is death? Was Ayobase saying that Jesus "death" was to remove death? Whatever your belief, you have not addressed my point about if Adam and Eve had done worse, what would the Biblical God be asking to appease Himself? But wait. Every believing Christian still prone to death. If the "death" of Jesus was to protect you from dying, it did not work for all the disciples and apostle Paul. How do you think it will protect you, now? If "the death" of Jesus was to do anything, it has not done it and yet all christians will be judged like all of us who are not christians.


[Quote]If Quran was sent by Allah, then how come some passages written in personal forms and the life of Mohammed that was lived even before him living it. It makes my head turns[/Quote]whats are you saying by this bold? I am a simple man, so write it in simple, easy to digest grammar.

^Ayobase at least, must have a mustard seed size faith?
So move this mountain [any mountain of your choice], anywhere on earth.

You people just they mouth nothing.

None of you is ashamed to call warrior Jesus a lamb. Which lamb when he came with fiery personality to divide family and wage wars with swords; except he was surrounded by faithless followers, who slept while their master worshiped all night long.

Imagine if the fault of Adam and Eve was more than eating, say cutting the tree down, or worse destroying the garden? What will be the settlement then, if Jesus died because of eating?

Hardunnii is worshiping Jesus who worshiped Ellah, if the Bibles are correct about the events of the cross, the gethsemane, and Who is Lord and God of the children of Israel; [1 or more?], etc.
Hardunnii has turned her father the Alfa [whatever that means] and her mother's father, the "imam" to worshipers of you guess it, Jesus of Nazareth, the one crucified according to the law, says Paul, mark, matthew, john and luke [in the fashion of the singer paul, peter and mary of the '60s love era].

In all, the bibles do not even recommend 1 or specific number of wives a husband can have, while the Quran strongly recommends 1.

why insult without reason?
the same God has allowed you to live, until your appointed time, since God is One Lord.

Ignorance is the mother disbelief.
How can the people slaughter somebody in the south, but only cut off the hand in the north for the same offense?
In my reading the Quran, I have not came across any place that slaughter is commanded or recommended as punishment for stealing.
Or do these people who kill thieves by slaughter know what the whole "Ummah" does not know? Let them show it to this muslim.

This people are tainting the name of the religion I love.

I think Hardunnii has a feat seeing people from predominantly christian stronghold becoming muslims. May God Who sent prophet Jesus to the children of Israel, as one of the many messengers and prophets to them cure her of this condition. Amin.

^^What blasphemy? Who is the blasphemer?
Me who said Jesus worshiped by praying to his Lord God Who sent him a messenger [as] with a message for the last time to the children of Israel when he put his face on the ground, begging, crying, weeping with blood like tears?

You who said Jesus is God?

Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Maybe you need to study the bibles, for the first time and see what Jesus did. Not so much others said he did while they conveniently forget that he said "of my own power, I can do nothing. . .".

Hardunnii is avoiding the reality.
She refused to accept that anyone who worships, is not the True God.

Now. Peace out.

Adunni does not look up to americans. but she of course spelled her name hardunnii, where r came to this name, beats her and all of us. unless she is of course wants the simple yoruba name to sound english? but even england and almost all english persons are intoxicated by yankee. Adunni, my dear, honesty is the best policy, testify [i just borrowed your lingo; testify].

America is the heart beat of christendom, today.

@Hardunnii; You forgot that Jesus preached not peace but war. Not love to hate for disbelief, disdain for ruler. Ironically, the meek Jesus is gonna come back and kill Jews, if not all those who do not buy take him as New Testament presents him. You need to take a good account of your position.

^^^^^^^^^^^ Jesus prostrated his face on the ground to Ellah, his God.
He did that when he was at Gethsemane, begging all night long in prayers and worship.
Muslims do this still. I have down 2 of them since midnight and have 3 more to go. This is similar to what Jesus did.
I guess I am closer to him in deeds and not just word of mouth. Alhamdulillah that he and I have the same God Who is never weary, tired, dying or in need.

You don't do that as a christian or do you, face on the dirt? So the emptiness of your statement is in the not having any action to support it.

And no, I am not bothered that you are a christian. I have seen many christians who convert to Islam; some of the women closest to my heart.

And some of my best friends, trusted religious brothers were christians, before leaving it. But you still have to tell me what is special about what you now have. Or are you just living in euphoric feeling that somebody is now shouldering your mistakes and you have no responsibility so you can go on making 'em mistakes?