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As sSalaamualaykum wa Rahmatullah; Dudu_Negro and any other who may think that the Night of [Lailatul] Qadr and or the Yaum [including Night] of Arafat are or is evidence for "Night Vigil". The below will go against it, since these are special events only and not day and or night common year round.

Allah says in Surah Taha, making worship easy for His Messenger in verses 2 and 3, that Quran is not revealed as a means of stress or burden. And Surah Muzzammil forbids making prayer or worship obligatory all night long, even for the messenger [as]. Verses 2 to 4 of it, searching on QuranEnglish.com provides a good explanation. Allah's messenger [as] was the best of worshipers of our Lord, Allah. Can anyone worship Allah better or should one ignore the statement of the messenger [as] saying "I am the best among you, yet I sleep at night" when he was cautioning the man who had forbade his bed, including sleeping with wife, taking all night worship, instead.

Islam, is practiced without burdening the body; living a normal life. The messenger [as] was reminded of this by his wife [ra] Aisha bin Abu Bakr who said to the noble soul "why do you worship all night so much that your feet swell up, when you have no sin, except that it is already forgiven, even to the future?" This swelling of feet was even after he has been cautioned in Muzzamil or before it. Either way, it proves that all night "vigil" is not a thing recommended. Even on Arafat or Qadr, people fall asleep.

And Allah knows best.

Sufism? Ney.
There should nt be anything called Night Vigil in Islam, because in Surah TaHa, Allah told the messenger [as] about not praying all night. The body has right over your desire or mind to continue to go. So you rest in order to maintain the desired balance.

if you make nawaful all night and don't make fard prayer in its time, what a misplacement of priority.

@Proo212: christians eat everything. if you put anything on something, that food for christians.
You have no rules or ruling on foods. As long as it looks good, it good to eat. I say thats mickey, a vacuum cleaner sucking up everything [even if its bad for you].

Halal meat is good for you so the christian in UAE are eating what benefits their body.

Allah is Perfect and there is no deficiency in the religion He ordained.
It is satan that deludes or seduces people to do evil; and the criminal said so, above.

Humans are wanting to do evil. But the fear of God, knowing that He sees all, nothing hidden from Him should guide us on a narrow path; cautioning ourselves.

if this is a true story, it is a terrible crime.

so muslims have to eat non halal food because a kosher eater said no. big deal, since all a muslim will have to say is Bismillah and its Halal by mercy of God. Please brentkruge, have some other meaningful thing to say, even though i disagree with many ways of the agitated muslims, who should be tolerant and restrain themselves, improving their own image struggle hard to meet the requirement of Islam.

100 years in the future, Sarkozy will be a thing only in memory, just like me and others. Where is Isabella, now? But Islam is in Spain. SO shall Islam be in France after Sarkozy.

Reality to lighten up the mood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjIj6qoBZE0&feature=related

^Salaamualaykum; Where are you in this united states? connect with me; galadimalou at aol dot com

@Tiarabubu: « #6 on: Today at 09:17:05 AM »
[Quote]why not have a chapel for a stray Christian who curiously finds his way to mecca or medina? Undecided[/Quote]I know you will be undecided since you dont know that Quran by Surah Taubah, Allah has forbidden kufr in Makka and definitely by extension Madina. So no chapel for you. But the Bible has not forbidden Masjid for me in Vatican City, except by your own desire.

@Frosbel: Your heart will be at rest, so will be your body and soul when you final figure out if 2000 years plus and still counting is within your last day. then 610 years after pronouncement of "last days" is mere hours of a day in the 'last days'. hence it is expedient that the another comforter arrived, at that time to correct the mistakes on hand. and many other things put in their proper places. see? how far now?

it is america i live and i am an american. so great satan is not america. and to your vatican 44 hectares, we could still have a masjid to house occasional stray muslim who curiously find him/herself in vatican city.

hello, davidylan. the video here is for you; http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=JwfITC_H9_U

[Quote]« #197 on: February 04, 2012, 04:09 PM »

Quote from: Sweetnecta on February 04, 2012, 01:45 PM
^^^ I want the wonder to appear to this man [me] who is older than 44 and let me dealt defeat on the fake wonder InshaAllah. i trust in Allah, always and i will defeat your shaytan. Amin.

olabowale, are you sure that you have grown so long in the tooth that you are now beyond redemption? The "shaytan" that you think you will defeat is the allah that you trust, is that wise or foolish?[/Quote]Are the two [2] words in bold the same or there are no older than 44 years old yoruba man alive than Olabowale? What is with you, Olaadegbu? You should have a sharp mind, not this dull one that drives you.

The day I was born, there must be many born in yoruba land; male, mother christian, etc. Alhamdulillah that she is no more christian, the biggest joy of my life. How can satan who I curse daily be my Lord, be Allah Who taught me to curse satan?

I do not want to embarrass manmancho so I will not ask him if he is the spoke man for God by receiving revelation from which he is sharing, considering that before Jesus no man dies for the sins of another. Can the death of Jesus be enough to wipe off the sins of all if we go by the Bible? If Jesus is sinless and this is the reason the christians are putting forward this concept, which Jesus never advanced, then John was even more sinless that Jesus, yet he was beheaded, while the christians think that his death amounts to nothing. Yet it was John who was good enough to baptize Jesus and who Jesus called the greatest prophets ever, at least from the nations of Israel. Prophet Jesus in addition was both from a woman's womb and from the nations of Israel.

I wonder if turning the table of traders upside down, calling people fools, cursing nations of people and finally being tempted by satan many times do not amount to sinning while a mere though in the heart about se.x {LUST} is already a sin? Why double standard?

Finally, if sin is not in gradation, how is the death of a reluctant person in hands of his tribes' men be enough to cover us who are not from these tribes considering that he said that he was sent to the lost sheep [type of cattle; a demeaning qualification for human. worse than being a slave of another human being] from those people?

If we are to be objective, death of one man cant cover hundreds of billions of people, each with billions of sins worthy of punishment. Then we have to go back to the Mercy of God, Who he Alone is The Merciful, Forgiving to use His Own Standard of Mercy and Forgiveness to forgive us all by letting His Mercy overrides His Anger.

It is this that Islam anchors us on, making our faith firm and our salvation being belief, obedience and hope.

^Actually, no sane woman should abandon her family name for any man's family name.

I will not look at a woman who insist that she must bear my family name without her's in it.
I prefer a woman who will bear her father's name. period.

@Deols; Most nigerian muslims I know, yorubas included [i am a yoruba man] have their wives bear the names of their fathers. My wife bears her father's name. she wanted to make her last name compound though; solely her choice. Her money is hers. And almost all the men I know do house chores, too.

Deols; are you ready for such a husband who will let you bear your father's name and let you keep all your gains and get involve in house chores? I have eligible bachelors, always around me. You may need to write to galadimalou At AOL dot com.

And women can make proposals, too. Khadijah [ra] did.

[Quote]« #10 on: Today at 05:24:27 PM »

Quote from: maclatunji on Today at 04:49:29 PM
^There is also an increase in the number of native Europeans and "White" Americans becoming Muslims. More of them are leaving Christianity for differing reasons, what happened there?

Far less than the number leaving islam in droves including those who are still in islam only for[b] fear of their lives[/b]. Christianity is a choice not a numbers game, unlike muslims we do not measure our faith by how large the crowd is. We dont maintain membership roles by threatening death to those who leave.

With regard to your fantasy idea that "native europeans" and [b]"white americans" [/b]are becoming muslims, that is a lie. I live here, i dont see what you claim. [/Quote]You may need to leave the village beside a dying city that you live on the hudson and visit big cities, sometimes. White Americans are becoming muslims fast; they include entirely a family; Hamzah Yusuf's family. Dr. Brown is another. Do your own investigation.

^ you must love to follow opinions, rightly or wrongly.

@Davidylan: « #1 on: Today at 02:49:27 PM »
[Quote]The American culture of tolerance at play.[/Quote]Now that America is leading the world. What o you expect a leader to do but set the pace? We will not talk about Slavery and or such conflicts with the many nations of the natives.


[Quote] Try telling us of the dramatic increase in churches in places like Iran, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia?[/Quote]When is America comparable in her religiosity to nations formed with religious underpinning or the one that changed her course to it? I thought America is secular, with complete separation of church from the affairs of the state? Davidylan; these countries could only be compared to Vatican City and I dont see Masjid being build in there soon. Abi, tiarabubu?

@Stepo707; « #24 on: Today at 04:07:40 PM »
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my sister please be patient,there is still so much work to be done(matt24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.)There is so much work to be done,just keep doing your part
2peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.[/Quote]I am a brother, mehn. If 1000 years is a day with God how many hours have elapsed in that day when man has spent 610 years? And Matt 24 verse 14 did not quite identify the True Gospel. it only says it shall be preached all over and then the end comes. I thought the end was at hand 2000 plus years back, while 610 years from whence it was uttered was much much less than 2000 years, which is not the end, yet?


@goshen360 (m); « #25 on: Today at 04:15:56 PM »
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Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

This is the TRUE GOSPEL OF CHRIST. This is the gospel that Jesus preached from the beginning.[/Quote]Prove it, because all I see is what Paul preached. Unless Jesus and Paul are the same person, then we need t compare the Gospels preached by both to be sure they are exactly alike,


[Quote]Math 4:17
From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.[/Quote]Did Paul preach this and was the kingdom of heaven "is" at hand then and the end didnt come "then", while we are still waiting for it today as we are still waiting for the second coming that the disciples already missed, if it happens now? Is this what Jesus really preached or what somebody said he preached, while the writer didnt pay attention to time regarding the usage of "is at hand"?


[Quote]Mark 1:15
The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.[/Quote]Imagine if the true Gospel of Jesus is what is in this verse and nothing more, what will you conclude about how "is at hand" has extended over 2K years and there is no end to it?


[Quote]This is the gospel that Paul proclaims throughout his ministry.

Rom 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

This is the gospel that Peter preached on the day of Pentecost.

Acts 2:22-24
Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know. Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

This is the gospel that Paul says is the power of God

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. [/Quote]can any of the 3 gospels be exactly "the kingdom of heaven is at hand"?


[Quote]This is the gospel that is not being preached by the church today. Instead the church has substituted a false gospel, a powerless gospel that is really no gospel at all.[/Quote]Is one false gospel less false than another? The church is an extension of Paul based on his gospel versus the gospel that says "the kingdom of heaven is at hand".


[Quote]Gal 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
[/Quote]Imagine a man cursing an angel, yet, he preached not "the kingdom of heaven is at hand" as the only Gospel? I see why the another comforter was predicted to come by Jesus to correct all that has been corrupted.


[Quote]The so called gospel that is preached today is the “ask Jesus into your heart” gospel.  It is the gospel that says ‘Jesus loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life’ It is the gospel of the so called sinners prayer which is found nowhere in scripture. The gospel of give and get. Yes, Jesus loves us but doesn't love our sins and worldliness and dead word. He doesn't love our rebellion against God. He is jealous we taking side with the devil and the worldly practices. We must seek the kingdom of God first which starts with repentance from our sins and dead works and ALL other things will follow.[/Quote]Neither this gospel of today nor the gospels of Paul, etc are exactly the same as the Biblical Gospel that says "the kingdom of heaven is at hand".


@Pastor AIO; « #26 on: Today at 04:32:44 PM »
[Quote]You have to be careful of the way you interpret that passage from Corinthians.

If the Gospel is about the death and resurrection of Christ (which it is) solely and fundamentally then how could Jesus have preached the Gospel while he was still alive?  How could John the baptist have preached the gospel?

For Further thought:  If baptism is symbolic of death and rebirth and John baptized before Christ was crucified and Jesus' disciples too baptized before the crucifixion then whose death and resurrection exactly does it symbolise?  Remember that we are all to die with Christ and be resurrected with him.[/Quote]how many deaths shall a person die, if he died with Jesus before Jesus was born or even before the person was born? I see you guys are preaching yet another gospel altogether. Things keep changing, becoming more complicated and no end to the changes. I say it is fluid.


[Quote]Let's chew on this verse, maybe it can help us.

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 13:8[/Quote]How does this address the worshiping Jesus of Gethsemane and "the kingdom of heaven is at hand" gospel?


@knelson; « #27 on: Today at 04:39:42 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: diluminati on Yesterday at 09:15:15 PM
You are wrong Pastor AIO.

Love Yourself, Love Your Neighbor as Yourself and Love God (whatever You want to replace that with).

When you can do that you wont need to worry about 'The Kingdom cometh' or 'signs of the end times'

You said it beautifully well, diluminati.  "Love your neighbor as yourself". If we all do that, the world will be a much better place for everybody. Forget all those people who call themselves Reverends and Pastor. Just do what Christ commanded us to do, ", Love your neighbor as yourself, "[/Quote]Everyone in christendom missed what Jesus did; Prayed to God by putting his face on the ground and cried and begged while asking, submitting his will to the Will of God The Lord Who sent him.

the kingdom of God is at hand, said over 2K years ago. Either it was at hand then, or really it wasn't because it is taking so long for the world to end, if it was at hand when it was said it was at hand.
considering his telling his disciples he will return, eminently before the end of the world, when he said it was at hand 2000 years ago. neither has he returned nor has the world ended. we are here still and it actually underscored the fact that the arrival of the man known as another comforter was just soon enough, considering that he must correct the mistakes established, etc. please read the duties of the another comforter who must minister to ignorant people.

shouldn't the true gospel be in a single gospel, the gospel of the one who preached the gospel in stead of collating "it" from many books; gospels according to many writers, acts, etc?

because it is the only religion reveal to mankind and ordained on him by his Creator. this is the only religion by which you can truly worship God and definitely in your sincerity, per chance your worship is accepted and you receive the ultimate mercy of God. i am talking about the Day of Judgment, now.

@Brentkruge: I saw an amputee once who said to people around him that the part that was removed was itching him and he needed to scratch it.
People were so shocked because where he wanted to scratch is no more part of him!

The same condition can be logically explained about the messenger [as] of his feeling about the poisoned he consumed so long ago. Let just assume that he felt the pang of the poison immediately it was consumed, while other died of it, he survived it and the only effect he felt was just a pain. Let us assumed it was excruciating pain at the meal. The miracle was that he did not died while others died. That was the first miracle.

The second miracle was that he survived for 3 years without any pain, living normal live and receiving revelation and even made Hajj.
The third miracle was that he died at old age, almost 2 times the age of Jesus of the bibles.

The other miracle was that when he was going to die, his Lord let him feel the pain as it it was fresh, so that he could be made a martyr because those who die of stomach complications are martyr as well.

There are still other miracles. Interestingly, does anyone expect a messenger and or prophet to remain after his mission? what will he be doing around; lounging around you think?


Allah has Willed what He Willed and has made Muhammad [as] the best.

Of all the people who lionized or insult this man, which of you can tell me that you witness the war and your knowledge of it was not from history book, or story told?

We need to be careful how we use our fingers. The man did not offend anyone of you. He had many yoruba friends and many of them called him Egbon.

How dare you young people insult a late state man?

Many of you could not defend your family let alone your tribe. Late Ojukwu did what most men of his time couldn't do: He stood his ground and he fought for the rights of many.

He told igbo people, "if you cross this line, we will defend your person".

Many men of today will let gang of armed men pillage his family thinking that it is best to preserve his own life.


Leave the dead man alone. Each of us should be concerned with our own lives and what benefit we bring to others.

^^^^^ Read this and take notice;

||WHOEVER AℓℓΑН SEND ASTRAY NON CAN GUIDE HIM.
A PATHETIC STORY||

It is related that a group of people were once seated in the company of Al- Hasan Al-Basri, when some men passed by, dragging along with them a
body of a dead man. When Al-Hasan saw the dead man, a glint of instant recognition could be discerned in his eyes, and he fell unconscious from the shock of some memory that had just been rekindled. When he regained consciousness, his companions asked him what was wrong with him. He said; This man, referring to the dead man being dragged along on the ground used to be one of the best worshipers and one of the most
renowned ascetics in the world (renouncing all the temporary pleasures of this world because he was so busy and devoted to worship). One day he left his home, intending to go to the masjid to pray; but on the way, he saw a beautiful young Christian woman, who became an immediate temptation to him. When he proposed to her, she refused, saying, “I will not marry you until you become an adherent of my religion. [Christianity]“ He went on his way, but as time went on, his yearning for her continued to increase. He then succumbed to her wish and exited from the fold of Islaam, the religion of pure, unadulterated Monotheism. After he became a Christian and some time passed, the woman came out to him from behind the curtain and said, “You are a man who is bereft of goodness. You have forsaken your religion, which was important to you for your entire life, simply for the sake of a lust that is of no value. Indeed, I too am forsaking my religion, but not for the same reason. I am doing so in order to achieve a blissful existence that never comes to an end, an eternal existence under the care of the One, the As-Samad (i.e., Allaah; The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creature need, He neither eats nor drinks).“ She then recited the entire Chapter of Al-Ikhlaas: “Say (O Muhammad (saw)): “He is Allah, (the) One. Allah-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks). He begets not, nor was He begotten; And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him.” [Qur'aan 112:1-4]

When the people had heard about what she had said, they approached her and asked, “All along, you had this Chapter memorized ?“ “No,” she answered. “By Allaah, I had never known it before. But after this man continued to insist upon having me, I saw a dream; I saw Hellfire, and my place in it was shown to me. I became terrified and panic-stricken. Maalik – the gatekeeper of the Hellfire – said to me, ‘Do not be afraid or sad, for Allaah has ransomed (i.e., saved) you with this man (i.e., he will take the place in Hellfire that you would have taken had not Allaah saved you).’ He
then took me by the hand and admitted me into Paradise. Seeing a line written inside of it, I read it; among what was written were these Words: “Allaah blots out what He wills and confirms (what He wills). And with Him is the Mother of the Book (Al- Lauh Al-Mahfooz)“ . [Qur'aan 13"39] He then recited Soorah Ikhlaas to me, and I began to repeat it. Then I woke up and had it (Soorah Ikhlaas) memorized.“

Al-Hasan then said, “The woman then embraced Islaam, and the man –whose corpse you just saw being dragged away – was killed for having
apostatized [became open enemy of Islaam because the woman abandoned him]. And I ask Allaah to make us firm and steadfast upon guidance and to grant us safety and success.“ [Taken from "Glimpses From The Lives Of Righteous People", Pp. 53-55, Darussalam publishing]

frosbel needs to just copy and paste a little. then he should give us the website instead of pasting so long so much.

@Islamrules: « #47 on: Today at 03:49:29 PM » While you copied and pasted, it would have been intelligent enough to have read it, ponder about it, first. I would have easily ignored your post, acting out my silence is best response to a fo.ol, i need to teach you how to be honest is the reason i will not be silence.

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Who we are:

We are ex-Muslims. Some of us were born and raised in Islam and some of us had converted to Islam at some moment in our lives. We were taught never to question the truth of Islam and to believe in Allah and his messenger with blind faith. We were told that Allah would forgive all sins but the sin of disbelief (Quran 4:48 and 4:116). But we committed the ultimate sin of thinking and questioned the belief that was imposed on us and we came to realize that far from being a religion of truth, Islam is a hoax, it is hallucination of a sick mind and nothing but lies and deceits.[/Quote]I want people to remember the bold because I will refer to it, later. Ironically, the people who were taught [knowledge] never to question, were able to fish out verses 4;48 and 116 from a book that is so common, even non muslims have access to it. its in the public library, even in villages.there is no blind faith in Islam because Islam is about knowledge and reasoning. Allah says people should ponder about creation and know their God did not create for amusement. One must have knowledge before belief.


[Quote]What we believe:

Some of us have embraced other religions but most of us have simply left Islam without believing in any other religion. We believe in humanity. We believe that humans do not need to follow a religion to be good. All we need to follow is the Golden Rule. All we have to do is to treat others the way we expect to be treated. This is the essence of all the goodness. All good religious teachings stem from this eternal principle. This is the ultimate guidance humanity need. This is the Golden Rule.[/Quote]What is the golden rule and where did it come from and where did you get it and who instill it in you? These fo.olish people, atheists they seem to be are not using their brains at all. If you a saddist who relish in pain, and you are treating a gentle soul the way you want to be treated, will that not be unaccepted by normal mind who believe in superior ruling than the golden rule that you are talking about? We, who believe in God try our best to do what is right for the pleasure of God. I am improving, walking away from evil not because of some silly baseless golden rule. but for the pleasure of my Creator, in a more intense way than how a child seeks the approval of a noble parent or a student should seek the approval of the professor or chairman of the department.


[Quote]Why Mohammed was not a prophet:

One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a intimate pervert, and he must not be a despoiler, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He violated the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to Be Intimate with their captives and their “right hand possessions” (Quran 33:50) He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way. Muhammad was a narcissist like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.[/Quote] if these idio.ts have any brain, they will add Yahweh of old testament, Moses, etc and Jesus as Jehovah in new Testament to the list of those who kill disbelievers, since Muhammad [as] didnt kill muslims. But Yahweh and Moses let children of Israel, the chosen people be wasted in the waste land called wilderness of exodus. Raping virgins are the hallmark of those who obeyed Yahweh of OT and killing children too were that of Jehovah while Allah commanded Muhammad [as] not to kill non combatants. And no one was killed for insulting Muhammad, killed because of what they did in addition; spreading corruptions in the land. These people throw accusation as if we do not know the truth and dont expect us to respond to them when we cant take it anymore.


[Quote]Why Quran is not from God:

Muhammad produced no miracles and when pressed he claimed that his miracle is the Quran.[/Quote]While the moon he split has healed like the asphalt lake in trinidad, and all the miracles of Moses, etc and that of Jesus are now stories and no one can show any of them fresh as they happened then, the Torah is still going through reconstructions among the sects of jews and even the christians. we se the same with the injil of Jesus in the hands of the many sects of christians. We do have Quran as 1 Book not changing and if we leave it at this, it is the only miracle standing the test of times.


[quote]Yet a cursory look at the Quran reveals that this book is full of errors. Quran is replete with scientific heresies, historic blunders, mathematical mistakes, logical absurdities, grammatical errors and ethical fallacies.[/Quote]I know that brain dead atheists shall lie, even forgetting that Arabic Quran is the standard of the Arabic language. How is arabic language itself being full of arabic grammatical errors? I just use this to destroy all of the accusations.


[Quote]It is badly compiled and it contradicts itself. There is nothing intelligent in this book let alone miraculous. Muhammad challenged people to produce a “Surah like it” or find an error therein, yet Muslims would kill anyone who dares to criticize it. In such a climate of hypocrisy and violence truth is the first casualty.[/Quote]Badly compiled? How? Produce a surah like it and criticizing it are not the same. Produce a surah like it and let it have the same spiritual effect is impossible. Criticizing it wrongfully just because you wanna criticize it is evil; burning it by those who do not like it o that it can humiliate those who love it is evil. and doing it in their community, to their face is worse. Is that criticizing it in your mind, author and copyist; Islamrules?


[Quote]What is our goal?

We are apostates of Islam. We denounce Islam as a false doctrine of hate and terror. However we are not against Muslims who are our own kin and relatives. We do not advocate hate and violence. Muslims are the main victims of Islam.[/Quote]I shake my beard in disgust. Saying something qwful with your mouth and keeping even more awful thing in your heart does not make anyone feel better. How is Islam false doctrine just by saying God is 1 and deserve all worship? Is this not the core of what all the prophets brought, including Jesus who worshiped God while christians are now worshiping Jesus. How is Islam hate when it says do not be unjust to a soul just because you dislike his deeds? Why is it a terror by defending itself and cautions a person to even stop fighting if the enemy now wishes for peace?


[Quote] Our goal is to educate them and let them see the truth. We are against Islam and not the Muslims. We strive to bring the Muslims into the fold of humanity. Eradicate Islam so our people can be liberated, so they can prosper and break away from the pillory of Islam. We would like to see Islamic countries dedicate more time to science and less time to Quran and Sharia. We would like to see them prosper and contribute to human civilization. We would like to see the draconian laws of Islam eliminated and people are treated humanely. We strive for freedom of beliefs, for equality of gender and for oneness of humankind.[/Quote]These people must be arab and persian pagans? Is this Ali the son of Sina? I have been trying to get the guy put up his pocket where is mouth is. He has always been hiding. Yet it is Islam that brought Arabs out of abject poverty and spiritual darkness to the shining light from the light house that guided Europe out of its barbarian period of fleas on the skin while pretending to be clean. Ode. Pure Ara oko. Islamules do you gbo yoruba?


[Quote]humankind’s biggest challenge:

Today the humanity is facing a great danger. Islamic fundamentalism is on the rise and the hatred is brewing in the minds of millions of Muslims. This hatred must be contained or there would be disastrous consequences. We believe that the education is the only answer. Muslim intellectuals must realize that Islam is a false doctrine and they must let the rest of Islamic world know the truth. Islam is a religion that thrives on the arrogant assumption that it is the most logical, the most scientific and the most perfect religion. While the fact is that it is the stupidest doctrine — the most backward and absurd belief.[/Quote]More backward belief than yours that says there is no God and everything is by chance, or that of the jews that say they are the chosen ones and have absolute ownership of God or the christians who say God is a man, then a ghost and then a father on a chair, who grieved and repented of His handwork or the hindus with gods being animals or sex.ual organs and others or buddhists who represent God with a box? Darn ignorant crooks.


[Quote] Once the truth about Islam becomes common knowledge, it will be weakened and the Islamic fanaticism will lose its fangs. Hundreds of billions of dollars are being expended to combat Islamic terrorism, yet no effort is made to contain the ideology behind this terrorism. It is our belief that Islamic terrorism will not be eliminated unless and until the ideology behind it is exposed and eradicated. This is what we intend to do.[/Quote]I am wondering if you will not dying and seeing Islam gaining strength?

@Tiarabubu; « #12 on: Yesterday at 09:30:18 PM »
[Quote]OK so when Afganistan changes hands, Islamic symbols should go up in smoke. Chai, your sense of reasoning is amazing. May be the Swiss and the Italians should be encouraged to blow up all things Islamic since you justify them. may be we should all cheer them on based on your twisted logic.[/Quote]There is no Islamic symbol that i care for; the othoman turks' star and crescent can be blown off it you find them and i will not lose any sleep. Muslims don't have symbols, then of course the Quran is being burnt down. I do not lose sleep over it, though I may dislike it because my Islam is already etched in my heart agreeing with my soul. Alhamdulillah that i feel this way, different from your own logic, even though the jews are ding everything to destroy Masjid Aqsa, including making the Dome of the Rock it. Look around you, tiarabubu. Please take the tiara off and remain in your bubu, you will realize that before Christianity and her churches, the idols and statues of the idols were prominent among in the communities of the pagans. when the pagans became christians, what had to go included the statues of the idols, their former gods, from their eyes and their hearts. Sheee o ti yee e?


[Quote]Wait a minute, may be they (France, holland) share your logic in which case, they will soon demolish all the mosques and Islamic centers in their country. May be the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Britain will follow. Perhaps India (home the Hindus) should do that too. They should ban Islamic books too for good measure.[/Quote]You get excited so easily. In the 1900s a british parliamentarian stood up and tore the Quran during his speech, realizing that it is the Muslims in India that are the greater force behind the resistance, agitating for independence. Another parliamentarian stood up to tell him Islam is spiritual, hence tearing the Quran will not affect it any because the muslims already have belief in 1 God and their Quran is in their hearts. And your suggestion that Godless europe, or religious marketing North America, etc cares for religion enough to want faithful people {islamic people] to leave their mist, you must not know the west, for muslims serve a good purpose at least; people who care enough about God to keep Him in the Forefront for all to think about.
Have you heard of the orientalists? These were non muslims with scholarship on Islam and with their knowledge tell half truth about Islam, at best or worse out right lies about Islam. Islam had to develop interest within her rank so much so that few people are now challenging the liars. This is the reality of the logic, unlike the logic you proposed. While jews are now relishing in all kinds of pork meat, and the christians enjoy ignoring God for the most part except in what they are comfortable in; man God, muslims do stand as they have found their last messenger [as], imitating him in all that is good.


[Quote]After all don't expect the respect and tolerance you don't give others.[/Quote]i wouldn't even expect respect or tolerance even when i extend them as far as i can. i know you will harass me that i haven't done enough in your effort to demean my religion which i owe dear, the same way Moses and Jesus held it dear. Darn oppressor [ . I am sure you like how i qualify you and your tight tiara pressing down on your head.

@nene1; I am one of these african men. Almost all african muslim males I know are interested in hijabi women.
No muslim male or even real male wants his woman to throw the boys out there for the public.
Public materials are not always exciting.


Almost all the african muslim males I know wear beard; long or short, but wearing beard.

@Tiarabubu: ^^^ o ma sheee o. Lets turn the whole thing over to belief in God Almighty, which is the issue, really. Before Abraham left his pagan society and headed to Canaan, there were people living in Canaan. They were the Canaanites and they were pagans. Their presence today is a mere history. You cant find their traces, unless you have to dig the earth. I hope you are following me without that thing on your head?

When Islam entered Jerusalem, it preserved the churches of the christians because they were seen as monotheistic establishments in one way or another, disregarding the trinity concept or the statues in them because they were not outside as a form of nuisance or insult to monotheistic faiths. And as to Islam in the west, I hope you do know that medical drs. wear face masks which is similar to the nikab of the muslims. Yet France's jewish leader Sakozy is making this impossible. Even Holland is saying no minaret in their country. You must be a village kid, because you will not be saying thatBuddha statue fits an islamic country like afghanistan. I t will be similar to erecting the statue of Ariel Sharon in Palestinian west bank.


@Frosbel: Posted on: Today at 01:40:41 PM[Quote]A man who cannot control his anger is likened to a child who has a tantrum at the slightest provocation.

A Man who has control over his anger is a Man indeed.[/Quote]How are you sure you are not the one above instead of the bold below it? Most people see you as the man with childish personality with your ridiculous new threads. Even the boys and their moma put you in the closet as the NL spot.


[Quote]There is also a spirit behind constant agitation , anger and rioting, it sure is not of the Holy God.[/Quote]And when Holy God of the Bible caused the constant agitation anger and rioting thats sure falling from being Hthe real Holy God, you will agree. Check out the Bible how Yahweh encouraged wars and the senseless killing of animals. Check out the Youtube and see how the jews of israel make mess of your christian presence in their mist. Even Iran allows you to flourish. True story; A friend called me yesterday from Abuja to discuss with a jew named Barak in California. When the jewish guys learned that i live in the east coast [NYC] he said "oh, you live in Israel". Silly boy he is like you, and he immediately turn and called me "Habibi". Both you and he are hypocrites. My response to his statement about living in Israel is that he is not telling the truth and he knows that. When he called me Habibi, i told him that was poor politics.


[Quote]Keep bowing before SATAN 5 times a day, you are simply wasting your precious life and time.[/Quote]Keep refusing to submit your will to God as Jesus did. Satan through Paul is leading you all over the places; controlling your mind. When I say Audhu bIllahi minal Shaytani rajim, I know that is worship satan in your mind, while you are not worshiping satan by not cursing him as I just did. Good logic turned over its head by my esteemed nigerian in London; mr frosbel.

@Kay17[Quote]4. Sweetnecta said all the caravans were carrying Muslim goods, thus Muslims were still under an extension of self defence, which I disagreed to.[/Quote]Definitely you are not from the Kay Jeweler family, the reason you said I said the above. Please show everyone where I said the above, unless you meant that the above is "the muslims want to get back from the Makkans part of the wealth they left behind, when they had to escape only with their lives and the makkans have enriched themselves by the wealth in the main time"? If at 17 you are this not trust worthy enough to represent what I said accurately to the world, what kind of level of deception should be expected from you when you are old enough to lead a country? You have made dick cheney looked as honest abe in my eyes.

The village man above [^^^^ ], its a surprise that people are still your friends. Thank God not everyone takes the advise of your Bibles because even the one madam who is 3 persons of madam and the three full boys who all became boy always will not be able to stand you remaining in their mist. See? Let me talk to Tiarabubu who is a woman and woman brings comfort different from how the hardship that man brings.

@Tiarabubu; « #5 on: Today at 12:39:11 AM »
[Quote]paganism may be repulsive but no one should judge. Buddhists deserve the right to worship their gods and ancestors. That's why its a free world.[/Quote]Yoruba saying; a person who is not wanted in a town does not start a musical chorus in the gathering of the town's people. no one will join him carrying on the song. This is the condition of the Buddhists in an Islamic community. If a buddhist invites me to a meal in his house where meat will be serve, i cant eat the meat, whereas i am permitted to eat the meat slaughtered by Jews and Christians. Islam is middle course; we do not condemn everything like the Jews or accept everything like the Christians. Its not always a "free world" when you do evil which is naturally unpopular or doing good that is not recognized by community of disbelievers. It will be not a free world if i go to St Peter's Piazza in the Vatican to establish my salaat by announcing my intention by spreading the mat and calling the adhan.


[Quote]in another part of the world someone may find YOUR beliefs repulsive. does that give them the right to blow up what you venerate like your mosque? Undecided[/Quote]Mosque is a house. A building. Not a statue. And there are many places and times Islam have been silenced; muslims kept their faith in their own homes. Even then the christian inquisitors didnt let them survive, while what was blown was a public Buddha, not Buddhas that the people in their homes. I am sure if there was an islamic statue in the public, it would have been blown up too, because no statue is permissible in Islam.


[Quote]think man![/Quote]Think woman. You may need to take off the very tight tiara away from your head and but something loose as bubu on it instead.

@Kay17; « #14 on: Today at 01:04:35 PM »
[Quote]@ Sweetnecta
Abu Sufyan's caravan was one of the many caravans Muhammed targeted, no reasonable man will expect the caravans to be carrying only Muslims goods to and fro for the sake of physical exercise.[/Quote]You lack historicity of Makka the moment Islam of Muhammad [as] began till the very battle you mentioned. Was there a muslim caravan going to Makka among the pagan's caravan or the muslims frm who are now refugees in Madina realized that the pagans of Makka are using their properties and wealth to enrich themselves, since the muslims cant go back to sell the homes and or carry the movables to Madina? Whats the reason for wanting these Makkan caravans except for that; let us retrieve a little of what you pagans of Makka didn't let us carry with us to start somewhere above the ground level instead of starting below the ground level.


[Quote]Normal honest private business is what caravans are all about. They are like cargo ships, so imagine what sort of people attack such ships.[/Quote]You are so ignorant. When and how do you come to the conclusion that people who oppressed another people for saying their Lord is One God and He is not an idol do not transgress even in trade? It was normal that the arabs used to deny they took properties or trusts of others. It was Islam of Muhammad [as] that rehabilitated them to good citizenry. Let me use the Festac issue to illustrate what you do not know. the 70s saw Nigeria for the first time barking back at the invincible empire of "Great" britain by turning British Petroleum [BP] to African petroleum [AP} you see around because england refused to return the Bini Queen mask which they "took" as colonial masters, truly they "stole" it. Nigeria was justified, so was what the Makka origin muslims of Madina.


[Quote]After the MURDER of the poor trader, Muhammed's convenient verse was that his killing was justified! How could that be justified? An unarmed trader! There was no self defence.[/Quote]I am sure David who killed Goliath was justified and King Saul etc saw convenient verses or narratives in the Bibles to make their points. Self defense is not when you a bit up to a pulp. Even preemptive strike is self defense according to President Bush, and almost all nations of the west against Iraq. What Muhammad [as] did was neither the two extremes of self defense, but the middle course; you have taken from us. You have used it enough to enrich yourselves. Please we are stronger now and since you have the boldness to make a route just through our backyard, we need some of our properties back, now.


[Quote]How does Abu Sufyan justify violence?[/Quote]same way people of Jericho justified violence; both are evil doers who God aided believers led by prophets [as] to humiliate.

brentkruge; Is paganism a culture or a disease to good faith?
is adultery a culture in a community of happily married people or a disease to matrimonial bliss?
is homosexuality a culture in a community of believers of Commandment of God or a disease to faith based family unit?
is erecting a statue of paganic god a culture in a community of those who believe that God is Invisible or a disease to monotheistic faith?

Did Moses destruction of golden yahweh installed by the rebellious children of Israel after crossing the sea blame worthy?

Whether you like it or not all of us will die, except if you are not created, then you will not even taste death.  This is an already decided thing from God.
For those who abuse and scorn the dead, pay notice and caution yourself before you continue to abuse the person like Ojukwu. We should all be concern about his condition of afterlife instead. We should start thinking about ours, because only a year ago, he was alive, 10 years ago he was vibrantly alive, 40 years ago no nigerian alive then will deny his existence. 45 years ago he was a top man in eastern region of nigeria, serving as the regional chief. 55 years ago, or so he was a man that was rare breed in the nigerian military letting the white officers know that black people are not push overs.

of course he was a different generation from Awolowo and Azikwe.

While Ojukwu was an igbo blood, he was truly a nigerian privileged to be yoruba raised as well as hausa born. how many of us can a dignitary from another tribe call big brother and can fit in with every major group of the nation? Ojukwu was one of those rare people. those who hated him based on his tribe alone or his role in the war, what do you say of Gowon who pillaged Nigeria in the middle of the greatest crisis we ever had? if we could forget the ills of Gowon and his tribaistic and even now his religious agenda and overtone, what did Ojukwu owed any of you individuals? I emulated his tenacity for self, his people and at the end, Nigeria.

Did anyone think that it was right for him to commit suicide in the war or turn his back so that he can regroup for another opportunity, there was one??



Well. I am an authentic Yoruba man who was already aware of myself almost leaving primary school for secondary school at the beginning of the war. Facts are facts. Let us keep it real.

@Kay17: Lets assume that Muhammad [as] always 'discovered' convenient verses to cover up everything, you will believe he is consistent in this 'discovery of always covering up with convenient verses'. Should that not be correct, since his intention is always to avoid being looked as not always right? So if there is a situation that developed and he didn't cover himself up with discovery of convenient verse or verses, then you may just be the one who is wrong in your opinion, above. Will that be a fair assessment of the whole situation, therefore considering his situation in every case a commandment from The Highest Authority; God, or you will chalk everything up to convenience of verses discovered?

Muhammad [as] was the leader if you will the mini-king of Madina, still developing his Kingship when Badr took place. But he was fully KING later when the situation of Surah Abasa happened. I wonder why Muhammad [as] spoke about the secret of that event to anyone, even to his cmmunity then and even to me now in the pages of the Quran. There was not leader, religious or otherwise in history that did what Muhammad did in SUrah Abasa. Even now I have not noticed any leader that has blamed himself for something even the community did not know he did, or even what hey know his responsibility covers. Look at godly Jonathan of Nigeria. Mr. President blamed everyone about Boko Haram except himself, creating an excuse for himself by saying that he is not a lion. Do humans allow lions to rule them except leadership that is bold as a lion? Please read surah abasa and understand your inconsistency or at least answer my suggested question about your 'convenient verses discovered" if you cant fully accept that Muhammad was completely honest about everything, since you are an atheist. Are you not an atheist?

[Quote]« #5 on: Today at 09:13:29 AM »
Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 01:11:15 AM
@Kay17: « #2 on: Yesterday at 09:31:58 PM »Someday, you will actually grow up a year to be 18, the legal age in almost every corner of the world. Then you will know that a person oppressed will die every moment until the oppression is lifted, if he ever survived it. Meaning dying a slow death is worse that just sudden death.

LOL!![/[/b]Quote]The laugh is on you, sir because sooner or later you will hit age 40 and discovered that you are no more 17 where you may still be considered as immature.



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What about the muslims who left Makka with just the Jilbab they were wearing? You think they were happy being foreigners in Madina instead of living in home town Makka? If you are a man, your type Kay17 is the husband who allows armed robbers to ra.pe his wife, daughters, sisters and mama. This is type of oppression which no soul should allow if he can do something about it. I will rather fight them and lose my life or I take the lives of the robbers. Thats how real man should aspire to do. There are fights worthy of engaging in. Badr was that type of Battle for Muslims

[b]The scenario you made is very different from what that which led to the battle of Badr. In your scenario, you are compelled at the moment to take steps of a defensive nature to protect your life and that of loved ones. And considering armed robbers will be using unjustified and unlawful force to deprive you of your life. But in Badr, Muhammed was committed to attacking a caravan (simple traders) whom the Meccan army rushed to protect. Muhammed was more like a highway robber.[/Quote]If a man was afraid for his life and he abandoned his car which the neighborhood thugs took as their own as a result. If a year or so down the line the weakling of yesterday has became the king of his town saw his car being driven on the highway through his town, do you think that he has the right to tell the toll gate person before the exit to stop the car, call in the cops to make sure he, the king got a chance to investigate the car, now considered by him as stolen and available for full recovery some years later? I think this is the way normal people do.
Personal experience; some 30 plus years ago, i drove from New York City to Newark New Jersey to visit a people who were visiting from 9ja. At the base of Broad Street, if one entered Newark from the Airport route, you will be in real ghetto. It has changed some since then. unfortunately, my car broke down and there was nothing called Cell Phone then, except you has public Phones around. In a nutshell, I was concerned for my life in this territory that was so unfamiliar to me. thank God that that the car was fixed from its minor deficiency. But if I had not been able to get it fixed then and the sun set upon me in that place, I would have had to abandon the car in order to preserve my life. At least that was my thinking. I would not have came back for it at anytime because I know that it would have been striped to the bone. Then imagine for a moment that a year or so later, I saw a person driving that car down Nostrand  and crossing Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn, a neighborhood that I am very familiar with, the least I could do is make sure that it is my property and find a way to call the attention of the cop standing at the corner walking the beat.
Let us imagine that it was the property of President Obama that he as forced to abandon many years ago that was driven to Dc or President Obama saw the man actually forced him to leave California in the 70s among the crowd in front of the White House. the man should be made to know that his power in the 70s is now nothing in 2012. Imagine the man brought a sign saying he beat up the president in 79. Do you think he will have a warm welcome with secret service? A man called Dick Cheney a liar in Texas. The secret service let him get as far as the next traffic light and got him arrested.



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when you keep my properties and have the gut to remind me that you have it and i cant do anything about it, you better watch out because i will do something about it; try to get it back from you, even if I have to fight you to actually break your arrogance that i couldnt do anything.

Except if Muhammed was hoping to recover his original property its justified but it wouldn't fall under self defence. But as caravans are nothing but a business trips which all credible states must protect, Muhammed's attacks on them are not justified.
Its an act of the State to do such upon a declaration of war, which Muhammed didn't do.[/Quote]Hello. Is anyone home because if you sold my house or took ownership of it against my will and use the gain to buy a mercedes benz, I have the right when i finally catch up with you to get the mercedes benz from you towards what my house is worth. Think, sir.[/quote]