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I can't help but laugh at plappville posting of the islamic conference to be held in dearborn michigan early 2012 by the archenemies of pure faith. david wood that i have posted many questions to and all he has been doing with the other arab christians was to dance around.

is Jesus God or son of God and did he willing volunteered for death and is such a death mercy or even justice in appropriate place and measure by God Who condemned Jesus of the bible?

where is the love, when you condemned the righteous so that you save the still rebellious?

@Plapville; »
[Quote] from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 11:16:06 PM
@Plappville: Are you a yoruba woman because a song in yoruba about Muhammad [as] and hearing the Voice of God in his journey to heavens, is a good way to answer you here?

If Abraham was Friend of God, and Moses spoke to God, Jesus was a word from God, do you know that Muhammad covered all of these qualities and then some?

Really, how?[/Quote]Evidently, you do not want to hear the Yoruba song. As to friendship to God, Muhammad being a messenger of God is also a Friend of God. There is a hadith in which the messenger [as] said that if he were not the "personal" Friend of God, he would have been that personal friend of one of his companions [ra].

As to the one who God spoke to, and spoke to God directly, the journey of Muhammad known as Isra wa Miraj, though it complete what you christians are still waiting for Jesus to complete, as a return, now that there is no single disciple on earth, Muhammad [as] spoke to God, and was given the command of how many salah and rakats in a day to make, as well as the last 4 verses of Chapter 4, without Jibril [as] being the bringer of revelation here. the tashahuud of salah is the greeting of Muhammad to his Lord and His returning the greeting, and the angels with Muhammad and the believers the best of destination.

Everyone, creation is a word of God, as in His Command of the creation coming to an existence.

Muhammad [as] is over all of them as i have said by being the only prophet who is told to carry message of guidance beyond his tribe, his local people, but to the rest of the world. God called him, His seal of Messenger and seal of prophet-hood, so much so that no messenger or prophet will be raised after him. No message will be delivered after him. All messengers and prophets before him were asked to support him, if they were alive when he will be raised to deliver his message. If you accept the "sandals i am not worthy of carrying" of John about Jesus. each messenger or prophet is the same about Muhammad. He is their leader who each of them must follow. And that includes the son of Mary [as].



[Quote]« #16 on: Today at 09:51:07 PM »

(Galathians 1:But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.[/Quote]Cursing an angel? you see the scare tactics in play.



[Quote]Jeremiah 23:16 This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.[/Quote]And it was a prophet of God who said this? I wonder what will Jesus say to this? Maybe this is the reason Jesus and John disagreed on who John was as to being Elijah?



[Quote]Ezekiel 22:27 Her officials within her are like wolves tearing their prey; they shed blood and kill people to make unjust gain.[/Quote]?

^^^^^similar to what happened to Jesus;

the Jews, etc said Jesus is dead in boast of their aim. But God maintained his life, even without them knowing it.

imagine how easy it is to get fooled above, even if modern medical equipment didn't get the exact details of the fetuses in the womb of a woman they dealt with for 9 months. the condition of Jesus was only for part of a day, some few hours and all they did was visual observation, without the luxury of modern medical equipment.

after the fact is the answer, in both. see how correct the Quran is, now?

^^^ The same God of OT is now 3 as in Trinity in NT.

Is I still for Tri [3] Nity?

you see the inconsistency in there, in OT and NT?

judek2 needs to address the heavy punish of death as a result of a simple offense as eating 'from forbidden tree''. what if the offense was more than that? what if the offense was committed by somebody more sophisticated? say Abraham denying about his wife, Sarah, lying about their marital relationship to the king of egypt?

how is it that satan was able to steam roll Jesus, your Yahweh/Jehovah in the way he did; claiming that he owns everything? though you claim that Jesus was the source of the creation of everything. how was it that Jesus kept quiet and didn't let satan have it, humiliating satan, instead of what came out of that exchange?

judek2 seem to be talking for just that without anything heavy coming out of it.

there is no trinity or more than One God here. We is Majestic expression of One God.

Even the mortal queen, kings, etc and even chairperson or captain of industry use[s] we.


continue to talk about legion of satan. you are in love with them i think.

I use we for ma sef when i am eager to make my wife smile.


you should try it, sometimes, mr. judek2.

All the Eze, Obas, Obis use we. and each is not talking about the whole palace but himself alone.

and i bet he is the one that makes the palace a palace, being the king.

@Plappville: Are you a yoruba woman because a song in yoruba about Muhammad [as] and hearing the Voice of God in his journey to heavens, is a good way to answer you here?

If Abraham was Friend of God, and Moses spoke to God, Jesus was a word from God, do you know that Muhammad covered all of these qualities and then some?

@Judek2: [Jude K Junior, I am thinking. . . .]

If I read the above, I will conclude that if Jesus is truly the son of God and being One with God, Trinity is dead.

More importantly, Jesus got a deal that only a horrible slave should get for being disobedient; get killed for the mistake of someone else.

Worse, is the nature of Jesus who you say is One with God; he was powerless by his own statement. He begged, prayed, cried, etc to God. Will that be to himself, therefore?

Is there a need for anyone to worship himself?

When satan challenged him, he should have simply destroyed it and settled everyone, instead of allowing evil to continue.

^^^opposite to "whoever practices and teaches abolition".

Jesus versus Paul.

@Judek2: « #84 on: Today at 02:12:30 AM »
[Quote]Where you created in the Image of Goat?[/Quote]Angels are more devotional and they are not created in the image of God. I am a human being, a new creation. I do not have to be "in Image of God" to be a good creation.


[Quote]We are already invisible because Boko Haram cant see us therefore bombing their fellow Muslims in the North,and we sit and watch them. Grin[/Quote]everything is local in the mind of this guy, including religion. I wonder why University in Benin got close, sometimes because of the "bokom Harami" guys? Is that University in the north, too? As I detest the boko Haram thugs, I also detest insincere thinking.


[Quote]The ultimate invisibility will be on the rapture when Jesus will gather his people to himself,and you won't see me again,but I will still be watching you. Smiley[/Quote]the loas may be too heavy to carry, like the Biblical cross that was hoisted on Simeon of Syrene. Your weight will make you free fall.


[Quote]Are you refering to the Sword of Allah? Shocked[/Quote]And Jesus said "I do not come with peace, but with Sword". Sword of Allah in the time of Jesus [as].


[Quote](The Bible says,"put on the whole armor of God". Literaly your type will wear a Helmet,giddle,boot,breastplate,and carry your shield with the left and Sword with the right hand,then match on for JIHAD, well,thats Just how your mind interprets it. The believers do understand.[/Quote]And it has been used to justify wars around the world. Even slavery, Apartheid.


[Quote]Anyway, i dont have to guess who is using the sword today? They no longer use Swords but Bombs.[/Quote]Cloister and Bunker bombs.


[Quote]We (believers) are sons of God, Jesus Christ brought us closer to his father as the only Begotten Son.

I worship you Jesus. .MY SAVIOUR. .[/Quote]I see you disqualified the GHOST since you do not worship it. You at east clearly worship Jesus and unsure of your worship of the father. this is paganic.


[Quote]Are you refering to the three daughers of Allah?[/Quote]Force what you will, it is your God who has sons and daughters, and even nations of them, so much children that some very early came to sleep with human daughters to produce giants!


[Quote]I'm superior to you. Why? Because I'm in peace with the trinity,while you are in confusion trying to explain it to yourself.
You are like an infant trying to understand Physics. Grin[/Quote]even an infant knows "tri" is indicating 3. how smart are you in your superiority to deny TRI as 3, but makes it 1 instead?


[Quote]And I guess you wouldnt have existed by the way.[/Quote]My creation was already ordained before I was created. Before jesus was created. Before Abraham was created.


[Quote]For your note,The wicked Cain killed Abel out of envy,so I dont know where you got all that trash from.Maybe that's what your confused Mohammad wrote in his Novel.[/Quote]I know many christians with the name CAIN.


[Quote]That answers your question.[/Quote]And what i found is that you rejected the holy ghost altogether, not sure of any worship to the father, but worship Jesus instead. the same Jesus who worshiped his God Who he called His Name Allah, as in Allah lu ya.

the christian boys are really living out or living up their religion, without any doubt.

when 3 gods is 1 God, it is no wonder they could say all they are saying, above against Islam.

Is there a free will in Islam? Of course. Every person is given free will to choose. There is no compulsion in religion, the reason we see arab christians.


i hope focused345, Judek2 can at least reason with the above and correct themselves on all others.

Jesus brought swords and ordered that his followers bought some, too.

As fela anikulapo said, watin lawyer go take hammer do?


What will a peacemaker who brought sword and ordered his followers to buy more swords go take swords do for peace "table"? Its for war. And war in arabic is harb.

Jihad is struggle. and everyone loves to struggle against something. if you are a good soul, you will struggle against evil.

@Judek2: Since you are on a "laffing" show, where do you place the "we [christians] are created in the image of God, making christians His sons and daughters" skid from mail4gift2? ask the guy when are all christians going to be invisible, since God is always Invisible?

proo212 is another racket. rukayah says the bible says Jesus brought sword and a christian said it was not a fighting sword. thats the explanation of the christian. but reality is that the sword was not to bring peace, so it has to be for fighting. instead, you are asking rukayah to reckon with the few muslims who cause mayhem, while the majority does not.

when are you going to be invisible, mr. christian comedian, since you will claim you are also created in the image of God making you His son?


how many sons and daughters has the christian God? there are three God Personalities; Father, Ghost, Son. which one is the father of the christians? ironically, the christians say one of them is their father and also the father of one of the three God Personalities.

First class confusion! With all the children, only one was killed for just eating fruit from a tree by the first man and woman. The best son born after the incident, is killed for something he didn't do, fighting all the way. imagine if the sin of Adam and Eve was more than a mere fruit? how many children would have lost their lives? I guess their mothers would have been made childless.

how are we correcting ourselves, if all we do is condemn each other individually? do we have different Illah, Rasul [as], Qibla, Kitab, etc?

All of us should love who Allah, His Messenger [as] Muhammad, believers loved, loves.

Let make dua to Allah to make our destination the right one, as one ummah.

we can't be truly successful if we divide against each other, each group having ill feelings towards the others, especially individually.

let us be very careful and hope, together in Allah for success.

let each one of us try to improve his/her way.

i hope this boy from arab land is not really an ode, because he should know that Allah will not judge anyone based on tribal identity.

a muslim lost is not just a tribal muslim lost, but lost from the world islamic membership.

many arab royal family members i have met in this western society, could hardly pass for muslim. the women especially.

when you give them salaam, they are timid to reply, even when they are in the security of their own homes.

araboy needs to step to the plate along with us tell all the yemeni, bangladeshi, etc bodega owners to stop selling pork, cigarette, etc, and even the arabs from their big bag of glass smoking things. hypocrisy is worse than plain disbelief.

may Allah help muslims to regard their religion, its ways, manners and culture.

Alhamdulillah that Islam is not for arabs, no one would have wanted it.

Tomzman needs to let us now which one of the gods he is seeking his rewards for plappsville and davidylan; the father, the son or the holy ghost?

if he says there is only One God, he has defeated trinity all by himself.

if he announces the specific God from the 3, the other 2 are accepted by him as fakes.

if he says all of them, then there you have it, his religion is a brother in belief of God as hindu does.

only a soul diseased will leave One God that Adam [as] worshiped, so did other prophets, including Jesus [as] to then worship Jesus, the ghost along with claim of worshiping the same God.

if my meal is set before me, it will be untrue for somebody else to claim any right over it, even if i invited him, her or them to it. the right over that food is mine exclusively. right of worship by mankind belongs to One God with a Perfect Name and clear Identity; Unlike anything made into existence, sent on a message.

while tomzman is recommending us to a book favored by his mind, i will recommend the practices of Jesus in worship to him; if you are a true believer of Jesus, wash yourself up by cleaning your outside with internal intention to worship God Almighty. then stand firm on that, then bow yourself, and prostrate your face with those who do these. then follow the unlettered messenger [as] as Jesus [as] proclaimed him to comfort you; making you closest to your Creator without an intercessor, knowing fully well by it that your obedience to God in monotheism of Islam is your true SALVATION; Only GOD can save you from all your worries, here, in the grave and on the Day of Judgment.

Allah knows who Zhul Quarnain is. He knows where the Gog and Magog people are.

Allah has allowed the fence erected around them to remain, until when the breaking down of it by them shall be one of the
signs of the end time, releasing them.

If Muhammad [as] didn't mention a name, anyone who mentioned a name, later, maybe wrong or right.

We know if Muhammad [as] had, there would not be any doubt about it.

He never would have said a thing that would not have came to pass in its right time.


And Islam was a religion practiced before anything called Judaism. Islam was the religion of Adam [as], the first man.
Islam was then completed upon Muhammad [as]. Islam did not take from Judaism, but what jews practiced that was ordained by God, they took from the prophet that led them in "islam", until they abandoned it and took their own process of worship, similar to what the christians did as to even the nature of God, developing trinity in their own process, and then they began to baptize, a process that even the jews will not develop.

leading people to hellfire, i say about the pastors.

unfortunately, they have a following.

everything begins with intention.
a muslim who loves to make salah, if it is not in his intention for Allah, it is for something else.

i will be happy to have the problem that davidylan has seconded, instead of praying with intention of other than Allah.

imagine praying with intention to say trinity. one wonders which of them is accepting and which may reject.

just a thought.

i think people should not use vulgar language about anyone, especially the elect of God. there is no reason or need for this manner of speech.

but it is interesting that the christians are arguing for God leaning towards younger brother Isaac, with her mother Sarah. is the Friend of God not Abraham, alone, without Sarah ever having to say anything about it?

if the relationship of Abraham with younger wife Hagar was so bad, not sanction by God, we almost believe that the biblical God would have been very hard on Abraham or both Abraham and Hagar or Abraham, Hagar and Sarah who encouraged them. After all, we should not forget that Adam and Eve who didn't commit adultery, even in their ignorance and newness to deceit, only ate fruit, according to the Bible, and lost their favor with God because of it.

i will say the relationship of Abraham and Hagar if there was no punishment on this is not illegal and it received God's Mercy and Blessing. Ishmael was named by the same God and blessed him, and we didn't see any blemish from him. He was not jealous of his baby brother and there was no reason for God to listen to Sarah and support her in any injustices; towards a more vibrant younger wife or the first child of her husband.

the condition of the christians blaming Abraham underscores how Quran records the same old age wishing for a son by Zakariah [as]. He didn't turn to anyone but God and trusted in Him. But the status of Zakariah with Allah can't be higher than that of Ibrahim [as].

we definitely know that Ibrahim was steadfast and knew consequences of sins. He new the history of Adam [as]. No one can claim that the patience of Zakariah is greater than that of Ibrahim. Each man [as] learned and knew how to avoid evil and then they trusted in Allah, 100%.

brother lagosshia had presented a verse from the Quran that answers all issues of who was the son of sacrifice. Muhammad [as] called himself as the son of the two to be sacrificed. He said that he was the answer to the prayer of Ibrahim.

Finally, while the jews and christians struggle to deny Ismail [as], we see muslim keeping the tradition of Ibrahim concerning the sacrifice. And Jesus proclaimed the coming of Muhammad who he called Ahmad [as to each of the noble souls].

We do not have to go to greek or latin or german to see what verse 6 of Surah As-Saf [56] says about Muhammad [as] from the mouth of Isa bin Maryam [as].

[Quote]5.He had the power of Allah with which to perform Miracles (Surah 5:110 )[Quote]every prophet, messenger [as] who performed miracle[s], each miracle is by the Power of Allah. you realized that Jesus said in the bible that he of his own power can do nothing. an entity that can't do nothing is not so powerful, you will agree. you seemed to have dubiously willed The Power of Allah on Jesus, as if you have the ability.


[Quote]6.Jesus lives!He will condemn the sinners on the of judgment (Surah 4:154-159)[/Quote]Not on the day of Judgment, because that Honor is for Allah and He is not sharing it. read the Quran, again; it says in 1st chapter verse 4 if you count the Bismalla as a verse. Maliki yaumi diini; The Master/Lord/King of the Day of Judgment. Thats Allah, alone. by the way, every prophet condemned sinners by their messages, preaching as they outline good deeds and condemned sinful deeds. Moses condemned Pharaoh and it led Pharaoh to his little and private judgment as he died on evil.


[Quote]7All who want to right should follow his gospel (Surah 5:46-47)[/Quote]Not so by the time Muhammad [as] began his message. read the story, again. it was relating the story of old to Muhammad [as] after 600 plus years of the event. revelation of Allah on Muhammad [as] surpassed that of any prophet, messenger [as] before and his was the biggest event, therefore Allah says, the favor of deen on man was completed in perfect order, as Islam is chosen for mankind and whosoever arrived in his grave with a religion other than Islam, his religion will be rejected as well as everything else. Gospel is not to be followed but Quran is to be followed. And Allah has elevated Muhammad [as] above all.


[Quote]If you are in doubt why not read the Koran and find out by yourself.[/Quote]you are definitely in doubt. the reality is known by the muslims.[/quote][/quote]

^ the disbeliever complaining is fighting true guidance.

@Torch1: « #62 on: Today at 05:46:00 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 04:55:03 PM
@Frosbel; « #44 on: Today at 04:27:12 PM [how you dey, ol boy, frosbel?]you really should be sorry and hence bow your head in shame if there is any dignity in your body, because the black stone is a small object in a whole structure called the Ka'aba. The people who are in Masjid Aqsa who are looking at the Ka'aba, but are on opposite side for example where they don't see it, you can't possibly say they are bowing to it. Do you know what they call focal point, a hob? Thats what Ka'aba is, the black stone being just if you will a prominent cornerstone.
You dont live inside your door, but it is the thing that is important to you, if you must get to your bed, daily.

So this a crime while you simply dismissed carrying swords?

And you dont stop to kill after you made your Lord's prayer, so much so that there are biblical verses now on rifles and killing machines.

here are your idols; 3 gods, one was a son of man and god and he finally got killed by humans in middle east, and the last you can not tell us his or her name or you will try to give us the name of holy spirit, today? Allah says and you will find it on the pages of the Quran how do I have a son when I have no consort, and then He say, he does not beget nor was He begotten.

Alhamdulillah that I am not one of the miracle workers, but you are that Jesus will say I do not know ye, depart from me, you evil soul.

Don't you think your Koran full of contradictions, Qur'an 6:101 claimed that Allah cannot have a son without a consort and the same Koran claims that Mary had a son without a consort(Qur'an 19:20-21), Is this not limiting Allah's Omnipotence??[/Quote]So Mary who had a son without having a consort is now an action to weaken that fact that Allah does not have a consort and hence does not have any child? How then do you answer Allah is not begotten while Mary was begotten by her parents, Jesus begotten by Mary? I do hope that even Adam and Eve were not begotten, while by being begotten is a form of creation, similar to creation of Adam [as] and Eve? Is there a Creator? Yes. Allah is The Creator.

@Frosbel; « #56 on: Today at 05:00:01 PM »
[Quote]
Why at all a black stone in the Kabba, why do people kiss it.[/Quote]so kissing is now worship, but calling on jesus, and or holy ghost and or Yahweh Who Jesus called Ellah is not multiple worship of gods? Where does kissing becomes worship, except in the mind of idolator? I do kiss my wife and that is not worship because after all it is part of being her husband. I kiss my mother because I am her son. My sister, I kiss because I am her brother. I kiss my children because I am their father, showing affection in each case. Umar [ra] said to the black stone which is your big headache i only kiss you because i saw the messenger [as] do so. this is to say, you can't do anything to me, if i don't, since you are part of the creation. The Kaaba is more important than the the black stone.


[Quote]Plain idolatry !![/Quote]Plain idolatry is worshiping Jesus. Why not just kiss Jesus and that is that? I am not going to go further than this on this subject.


[Quote]Remember this pagan tradition existed before Muhammad.[/Quote]And you mastered by saying God has a son!



[Quote]Carrying swords to church , lol.
Wow, is that not violence in waiting .[/Quote]Coughing. The disciples were sword carrying bunch, silly. You don't really peel off the layers to find the truth.


[Quote]
And you dont stop to kill after you made your Lord's prayer, so much so that there are biblical verses now on rifles and killing machines.
Please make some sense and stop blabbing about.[/Quote]The american military carries bible verses inscribed guns. Or you don't know that? You are proving that you are out of touch with reality.


[Quote]
This is a lie. GOD is one , he has no partners.[/Quote]Which God, frosbel; Jesus or the Ghost that is not so holy for overcoming Mary or the last of the 3 that you call Jehovah? But Jesus you god said he has Ellah, his God?


[Quote]But ALLAH has 3 daughters or godesses , it is a proven fact and because of this truth the Ayatollah issued a fatwa on Salman's head .  Why can you guys not just bear the truth ?[/Quote]Which fact, frosbel when Allah says He does not beget any?


[Quote]
What miracle did Muhammad the false prophet perform, other than his lies and deceit.[/Quote]And there is a saying, if Muhammad [as] will not go to the mountain, the mountain will come to Muhammad [as]. You know why it is a saying? It is a true even because the Messenger [as] called a mountain to witness his Messenger-ship. I guess this is not good enough as a miracle. Hardliner, frosbel.

@Frosbel; « #44 on: Today at 04:27:12 PM [how you dey, ol boy, frosbel?]
[Quote]I am sorry but we are not the ones who bow before a black stone situated in Mecca 5 times a day, this is idol worship.[/Quote]you really should be sorry and hence bow your head in shame if there is any dignity in your body, because the black stone is a small object in a whole structure called the Ka'aba. The people who are in Masjid Aqsa who are looking at the Ka'aba, but are on opposite side for example where they don't see it, you can't possibly say they are bowing to it. Do you know what they call focal point, a hob? Thats what Ka'aba is, the black stone being just if you will a prominent cornerstone.
You dont live inside your door, but it is the thing that is important to you, if you must get to your bed, daily.


[Quote]Also we are not the ones that carry knives and daggers to ta place of worship.[/Quote]So this a crime while you simply dismissed carrying swords?


[Quote]We are not the ones that start violence and Jihad after Mosque prayers on Friday.[/Quote]And you dont stop to kill after you made your Lord's prayer, so much so that there are biblical verses now on rifles and killing machines.


[Quote]Come out of idolatry and stop following ALLAH and his 3 daughters.[/Quote]here are your idols; 3 gods, one was a son of man and god and he finally got killed by humans in middle east, and the last you can not tell us his or her name or you will try to give us the name of holy spirit, today? Allah says and you will find it on the pages of the Quran how do I have a son when I have no consort, and then He say, he does not beget nor was He begotten.


[Quote]Jesus Loves you, repent Now !!!![/Quote]Alhamdulillah that I am not one of the miracle workers, but you are that Jesus will say I do not know ye, depart from me, you evil soul.

@Orikinla: « #40 on: Today at 04:15:38 PM »
[Quote]The best religion is the one between you and your creator and your faith in HIM will be your strength on earth.

Trust HIM.[/Quote]Which God are you talking about; Yahweh who is Jehovah, Jesus who called his God Ellah, or Holy Ghost, the spirit whose name you can't tell us?

Plappvile says she is not ignorant. Hmmm. What can I say? She picked on what Uplawal, similar to what Jesus would have said, and she ignored by advise, similar to how Jesus would have advised. I have a full experience of not so god and not so bad with christans of all ages, colors and levels of success. In all of that, there has not been anything in them that has attracted me to their 3 gods God. Why should i worship a man who felt and bled as i would?

And malsrom inviting me to worship handmades does not know that if you put those handmades in front of dogs, the dog will use them as it would use fire hydrant.

Plappville and Malstrom, listen to and take my advise by walking away from what can not hurt or benefit you. Heck, they can't even help themselves; the idols can't even feed itself and Jesus called on God for help. No one needs to follow his or her parent's religion, so Plappvile, why are you still in the religion of papa and mama?

Frosbel, people are not exactly one person, duh.

^Sisi Olwaseyi, long time. how is the family?

The person who never loved because there is no lover can't really forgive anyone, according to your above.

@Plappville: « #29 on: Today at 01:32:48 PM »
[QUote]Quote from: Dyt on Yesterday at 09:50:53 AM
shame on u
u in same religion doesnt mean u do same things
i m a a proud muslim

Is this how to advise a brother in same belief as u? someone is getting discouraged of violence in his religion, and needed help to build up, instead of u to help him with kind word, u acting ignorantly like your folks.

Anyway, this is how the true Muslim behaves. Grow up mrs proud to be Muslim.[/Quote]but i have advised you even in a better manner, ma sista. but all you have done is to behave like aja to sonu [i hope you can read yoruba]. you need to come to my side, instead of worshiping 3 gods.

@Op: If Boko Haram, etc are your ideal muslims, where do you put your parents who are muslims, spending their emotion, monies, etc on you? Are they not the logical examples for your life, instead of looking at shadowing ignorant group of low lives, pretending to be humans? Allah says some humans are even worse than cattle.

I took my Islam from my late father [ra] and in time, in less than a decade ago, my former christian mother became a muslim when I asked if Jesus was God, The All Powerful? She said no because she was able to differentiate lies from reality of "of my own power, I can do nothing", as Jesus had declared. I asked if Jesus was son of God, she knew enough that Adam and Eve who had no mother[s] were not children of God, and they would have been more qualified to be if God is to have children from mankind, since Jesus had even a mother, and looked like her, who in turn had parents. Alhamdulillah, my mother now in her 80s is a woman when she dies [not soon oh Allah. Give her many more decades, still, for you are abundant in Mercy, Blessing, etc], i will be able to make supplication to Allah for her.

From the family of the people who call themselves boko haram, there must be someone who dislike what they stand for. Okay from their cities, towns and villages. Ok from their tribe[s], because not all muslim hausas and fulanis and other northern nigerian tribes wants to leave Islam. I am a yoruba man and i know how unpopular Islam is now around the world. Thanks to the likes of boko haram, alqaeda, etc. However, do these groups have hold on my soul, my heart with ability to know right from wrong? No. I am a free man with free mind.

I remember my years in high school, university, and the early years of marriage. Almost all the christians i know cant help themselves in indulging in everything from drinking, getting high, and of course pulling panties down as quickly as there is a person wearing one in sight. Alhamdulillah, I am not perfect, but Islam was my guide to not immense myself in the same. Today, I know people in my age who are still living such a life.

If you are excusing yourself from what is good by using boko haram, you are not better than a person who couldn't stand for truth when it counts. Your position is the same as children of late wealthy man who left Islam because their brother who became the leader of their family is horrible, but they did not remember the good days when their was alive and they lived in penthouses in ritzy neighborhoods as students! Such ungrateful people.

If when you decide to leave Islam, know that it will not diminish on the Independence of Allah. You will only join the group of people i am quoting below;

[b]God2man


Re: Am Beginning To Lose Faith In Islam: Boko-haram Caused It
« #23 on: Yesterday at 02:26:03 PM »

I have more than enough evidence to reveal to you the truth. For now, i would advise you to go to nearest christian bookshop and look for books written by G.J.O moshay. For instance; 1.Who is allah? 2. Conversation between an islamic scholars and G.J.O moshay 3. How 20 muslim become christian. God loved muslim. God bless you. God2man.    
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Re: Am Beginning To Lose Faith In Islam: Boko-haram Caused It
« #24 on: Yesterday at 02:30:34 PM »

Just to complement God2man's recommendation, Please Read the Bible , start with John and then go to 1 Corinthians 13 and finally 1 John 1,2,3,4 and 5.

There is this site owned and supported by Arabic and Islamic experts, http://www.answering-islam.org.  Hundreds of articles to answer all your questions about ISLAM.
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A person who will not enter paradise is because he or she does not want to. he will enter heaven, the least of heaven which is hellfire. fire is greedy and will take all comers. The comers are those who follow satan, leaving islam and adopting another way of life.

^^Many discovered Islam on their own; as young people, as young adults, as truly matured persons and people very old almost at the door of death.

i have listened to many stories, varied stories of converts, in the west.

even as the libyans were busy killing one another, a mother of a convert who origin is benin city by way of port harcourt remarked from toronto to her son in atlanta, with all these, it makes one resisting conversion.

the son was shocked because he is not pushing her to it. but she knows his acquired good qualities different from when they were christian. May Allah make gene's mother become muslim. Amin.

if a person wants a sure process to truly be connect to God 24/7, without becoming a liar, it is Islam. it allows you to live your life as best as you can with clearly defined rules that not overwhelming and not truly restrictive because in every ruling there is always an exception.

A person who is a muslim in Makka will have a different set of more pronounced rules that a muslim living in amazon jungle. the one i n amazon jungle may not know what is salah because he has never made any declaration, but the nature of birth of every man, indeed everything is to obey the law in nature. so a person who is pondering about how things came about so much so that he realized that there is a Creator Who is not what his community made with their hands or other limited in power objects, is a muslim, in as long as he does not cooperate me with others in their evil deeds of worship and actions.

if he encourages people to not do this things, he is a muslim preacher, spreading islam to the people. such people, if they arrive in big city rio, if they are told what christianity stands for, what judaism stands for and what islam stands for without lying to them, they will say that they belong to the islamic group and easily be able to accept daily prayers, charity given, fasting, pilgrimage, and of course, to me there is no need to now give them declaration of faith before they entered, because they never have left Islam.

@2buff; « #5 on: Today at 12:42:58 AM »
[Quote]^^ You need to be more verbose.

You know, a simple "I don't know" also works too. Wink[/Quote]seriously, if the jews who say you are a pagan thereby not believing in jesus see the same thing that you see in your nde, is that not an indicator that you are both wrong? think bro.