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Kelvinkertzy:
when una dey twerk, who complain?. because you no get prick to join the dance, its now immoral abi?. shey you dey mad!!!



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When you have a daughter in the elementary grade and a boy boys are dancing the disgusting soapy dance in front of her, please don’t complain. When you have a wife or girlfriend and guys are dancing the soapy dance in front or at the back of her, just laugh out as loudly as you can because it is just fun.

Amanstailored:
Lol.... I can that our chief psychologist is still giving u a tough time. Well just ignore the oga. Man like me nor get time to dey argue with ignorance, there's somuch a wise woman can learn from a foolish mans questions than a foolish can learn from a wise womans answers. So be a wise woman and just ignore the man and his ignorance

PS; i no say wen the oga see this thread d next tin na to attack the two of thats y i nor bother use him name lol..

Lol! Thanks and have a great night.

laudate:
My opinion doesn't matter yet you kept responding to each post I made on this thread? Tell another lie, abeg.

My good manners at work. Nothing else.

laudate:
Na wa, o! All these long posts and multiple mentions of my username, simply because you folks failed in your bid to brainwash me into agreeing with your flawed and faulty submissions, based on a tissue of lies? Kai!

Fatoyinbo should give you both a big award for going all out to spin so many tales, in order to whitewash his disgusting antics.

I have tried to enlighten you both, but you have refused to imbibe the right kind of kno wledge.

Well, what can I do if you refuse to free your mind and see the light? You rape apologists are very funny o!

#SayNoToRape
#SayNoToVictimShaming

Brainwash you? Haba! Your opinion doesn’t matter now! You got into my mentions and out of good manners, I responded to you.

[quote author=Amanstailored post=79905991][/quote]Good analysis! I hope the trend chasing celebrities fight for the lady slapped by a senator.

Amanstailored:
No problem. Thanks for reading my follow up message. I got interested in ur threads of messages because i was thinkin if i cant convince laudate den maybe someone more sensible can do it. But ur conversations with him only revealed how myopic and narrow minded he/she was. Anyways enjoy ur day like its GOLDEN

Thanks and you enjoy yours like it is glorious.

Amanstailored:
I wonder why u waist time and breath debating with this guy #laudate(assuming he is a guy wich i frankly dont care). I have had my share of arguements with him/her and it seems like talking to a brick wall or worse someone with an IQ the size of a tea spoon. Bisola didnt sue or file a police report but went straight to almighty judge youtube and made her accusations, and to what end so that the man would get irritated or act hastingly in a bid to prove his innocence and sue her(bisola) and then like #laudate said she start opening up all the cupboard that contains the mans skeleton? The same cupboard where bisola has stored her own rotten skeletons. In the world of SMART MOVES, this is probably the dumbest thing have heard. The man might as well sit his ass down, say nothing, chill out and just let this whole saga die down and trust me what then becomes of her accusations, it becomes an echo, gone with the wind! #laudate speaks so highly of psychology wich is almost impressive but says somuch of his/her lack of psychological intuition. Go watch the video #laudate and before you pls read something about body language psychology and look bisola in the eye and listen to her narratives, ask her the tough questions then maybe, just maybe you would begin to see things differently wich i doubt u would. If the man is guilty wich i pray for the sake of many women out the let the wrath of the descend on him but what then happens if he was falsely accused?

You're absolutely on point. Before this, I thought Busola was the beautiful and sophisticated wife of Timi Dakolo. I thought he married up. But watching her video, she comes across as quite unrefined and average. What I saw was a desperate woman caught in a trap she had created and was lying through her teeth to give credence to her original lie; probably to her husband. I may be completely wrong, but I read Timi's post about her dark moods, sleepless nights... and her finally having the courage to tell him of being raped. Going public with her accusations, has brought so much negative attention to her as well. She may or may not have been promiscuous though. I know that Nigerians are kings of false accusations. I don't understand why and how people can't see the loopholes in her story or the poor judgment she's displayed in going public with it. I don't know this pastor really. I've seen him on tbn maybe twice. He looks really good and I can understand people's infatuation with him. If the various accusations against him are false, he needs to watch his interactions and expressions. I've heard an equally good looking pastor say there must be someone else in his office if he needs to meet with a female. If the Pastor Fatoyinbo is guilty of adultery, I believe only his wife and those under his authority have a say in that. If he is guilty of rape, Busola should go to court with evidence to prove her case. I think of his wife and kids and the devastation this caused them. What this is doing to the body of Christ. We have pastors giving their opinions publicly when they could have gone to their fellow pastor as brothers to help him through these horrible times. To help him fight if he is not guilty or to help him make amends if he is guilty or simply to be there for him. I wonder how they preach love and expect floor members of the church to love each other when they don't show this love! They could have reached out to Busola to try and resolve the issue, but they want to be on the right side of public opinion like they are politicians. Busola and Timi Dakolo will suffer needless pain and embarrassment from all these.

Amanstailored:
Lol... My comments was actually in support of the answer you gave #laudate, the person u were arguing with. I was only trying to support ur view point. Maybe u should have read my comments. Pls read it

Then I am very sorry, I should have read it. I thought it was the laudate trying to force his biased opinion on me. I'll read it as soon as I can.

dyydxx:
busola only needs to tell her story. is what she is claiming true or not. If the Pastor knows she is lying then he needs to sue her for defamation and make an example of her. That's all he needs to do to redeem himself, anything else is wash. No truly innocent man stands by as his reputation is stained forever without taking any kind of reasonable action

The onus is on Busola to prove she was raped. All she has is a verbal accusation. So, if my friends and I go online announcing you’re a ritualistic and murderer, do our words make it true? Will we not be asked to prove our case?is it because this involves a prominent pastor that his case is different? If it had been an average everyday person like an Uber driver will you say this? Remember the case of the taxify or Uber driver and the actress? Everyone wanted the actress to show proof.

Amanstailored:
I wonder why u waist time and breath debating with this guy #laudate(assuming he is a guy wich i frankly dont care). I have had my share of arguements with him/her and it seems like talking to a brick wall or worse someone with an IQ the size of a tea spoon. Bisola didnt sue or file a police report but went straight to almighty judge youtube and made her accusations, and to what end so that the man would get irritated or act hastingly in a bid to prove his innocence and sue her(bisola) and then like #laudate said she start opening up all the cupboard that contains the mans skeleton? The same cupboard where bisola has stored her own rotten skeletons. In the world of SMART MOVES, this is probably the dumbest thing have heard. The man might as well sit his ass down, say nothing, chill out and just let this whole saga die down and trust me what then becomes of her accusations, it becomes an echo, gone with the wind! #laudate speaks so highly of psychology wich is almost impressive but says somuch of his/her lack of psychological intuition. Go watch the video #laudate and before you pls read something about body language psychology and look bisola in the eye and listen to her narratives, ask her the tough questions then maybe, just maybe you would begin to see things differently wich i doubt u would. If the man is guilty wich i pray for the sake of many women out the let the wrath of the descend on him but what then happens if he was falsely accused?

I just want you to know that I did not read your comment. Until Busola has proof that the pastor raped her, I choose to believe he is innocent. The onus is on her to prove his guilt. Her words may be gospel to you but they’re not good enough for me or a competent court of law.

laudate:
Self-appointed...what? You are just recycling falsehood and clutching at straws.

Even the man who perpetrated the act, does not have the guts to put up a robust defence to exonerate himself. That is why he chose to issue that watery set of excuses, and then opted to step down from the pulpit.

He does not have the guts to even sue the Dakolos to court, because he knows that by doing so, all the skeletons in his backyard will be revealed.

Yet, you are the one coming online to dress him in borrowed robes of angelic innocence and sainthood, that he does not possess.

You are happily discrediting the victim he sexually assaulted, because you want to paint the perpetrator as a knight in shining armour.

You are saying she cannot claim to be paralysed, as if you are the one controlling her reflexes and psychomotor abilities.

Some people can bury memories of a bad encounter for years, by living in denial in an attempt to pretend it did not happen. There is something called dissociation, that victims undergo as a coping mechanism, to handle trauma.

Many years after, an event may trigger the pain and all the bad memories then start flooding back into their minds.

She left the church a few months after the rape, and joined WINNERS Chapel. Watch her video again. Stop recycling lies.

Anyway o, all you defenders of wrong doing can continue with your trade. Maybe, that is how you get your kicks. Very soon, you will be awarded a PhD in rape apology.
#SayNoToRape
#SayNoToVictimShaming


Why can't you ask Fatoyinbo to produce evidence to show that he did not sexually assault Busola, or intimidate and manipulate her into sleeping with him, a married pastor?

Busola has told her story and given facts, details, timelines and incidents of sexual molestation that took place, at that time.

Yet, you have chosen to ignore all that in favour of a married pastor who chose to abuse his position, by forcefully coercing an under-aged girl, into having sexual relations with him. In many countries, having carnal knowledge of an under-aged girl, is regarded as rape.

For your information, No false accusation can come near me, because I do not engage in such rubbbish.

I also pray that your sister, daughter or close female relative gets raped one day. Then let us see if you will discredit her, the way you have been discrediting Busola, and trivialising her painful experience.

#SayNoToRape
#SayNoToVictimShaming

Your venom is something to behold! I am female too, so you can pray for me to get raped as well. In your praying, please remember that who ever curses me is cursed and whoever blesses me is blessed. As for providing evidence, you’ve got wrong. Busola is the one to provide evidence that she was raped. The pastor is to provide evidence to counter that.

laudate:
When will your victim shaming end? This is why rape victims hide and suffer in silence, because myopic folks like you will ridicule, insult and blame them, instead of going after the perpetrators. And then turn round to say they are "reasoning deductively..."

Even the man you are supporting blindly and trying to paint as an innocent chap, has stepped down from the pulpit because he knows his hands are not clean.

He cannot even offer a detailed incontrovertible defence, to refute everything Busola has said. He chose to hide under a mantle of watery excuses.

In 2013 when Ese Walters accused him of infidelity, manipulation and sexual exploitation that took place in a hotel room, he could not say much. He promised to give a robust defence, but he ran away till today. Sexual controversy follows him like flies.

Yet you are here throwing tantrums on his behalf. Well done. It shows the kind of values you hold, and the type of mindset you have.

#SayNoToRape

Victim shaming? Has it been established that she’s a victim? Since I don’t agree with you, then something must be wrong with me abi? Hahahahaha! Please tell your alleged victim that should follow due process because some of us need more than her words to join your band of castigators!!

laudate:
Mindless destruction of people's lives? Just listen to yourself.

A man who has been placed in spiritual authority over the lives of old and young people, decides to abuse that authority by preying on a young girl, and he is being called out for doing so, yet the only thing you can do is to blame his victim. And then you jump up to accuse those who refuse to let him get away with his antics, of falsely accusing him.

Yet, the same guy cannot offer a robust defence to clear himself, instead he just proffers some watery excuses, in an attempt to sweep things under the carpet. When he sees that the heat is getting too much, he steps down from the pulpit.

It is because of people like you, that rape victims do not come out, to report the sexual assault perpetrated on them. From your comments, it is so clear to see that you are a rape apologist.

Enough of victim shaming. Enough of you lot cooking up lies, to discredit the victim. If this happened to your sister, daughter or relative, would you still say such things?

#SayNoToRape.

Blah blah blah! I stopped when you mentioned abuse... Let your so-called victim produce evidence she can’t. Instead she puts out a sob video, the contents of which ca not convince a right thinking human being. Busola needs to know the difference between the truth and her vicious lies. Okay, social media judge and jury who requires no evidence for conviction, I’m off to bed. I hope false witnesses will rise against you one day. Then, you’d pray for someone like me who reasons deductively instead of blindly following public opinions.

laudate:
When people lack valid facts to support their claims, they get hysterical just like you have done.

The victim came out to tell the full story of how the pastor sexually assaulted her. She did not hide her identity, but said it on video. She gave specific details of each incident, including full descriptions of what transpired between her and the pastor.

What did he do? He issued some watery excuses as a defence and was unable to give a robust refutal to her allegations. And you are here, claiming that it did not happen. Na wa o! You rape apologists are unbelievable.

You even claimed that because she did not scream or fight back, there was no rape. Chai! Why have you refused to use the brain, that God gave you?

On top of that, you alleged that she got married in the same church and got a car from the same man who sexually assaulted her. You did not ask for proof, o. You just believed it and ran with it.

If the same thing had happened to your sister, daughter of close relative, would you have continued reciting these false claims?

Please educate yourself on how the human mind works, when it comes to rape victims, instead of recycling falsehood.



#SayNoToRape a

Say no to false accusations!!! Because she did not hide her identity means she’s telling the truth? Keep quoting psychology that does not apply to Busola. She was paralyzed the first time, and second time and third time... we are waiting for part four of her tales by moonlight. If she was involved in an affair with him, she should be courageous enough to say so instead of this hogwash! One day, she’ll meet her Waterloo.
#say no to false accusations!
# say no to mindless destruction of people’s lives!
#say no to double standards! Busola does not need to procure any evidence, but the rest of us need to abi? Arrant crap!

laudate:
You read it on Nairaland and Instagram. Did you verify who said it? People on Nairaland have user names. They don't use their real identities. Yet, you just ran with the fake story, and started making false claims with it, and even wrote an epistle to discredit the girl.

The thunder that will fire rumour mongers like you, is still doing press-up at Bar beach. It will not miss your address when it is unleashed.

Oh my goodness!!! You sound like a self righteous prig. Please show the evidence Busola provided with her accusation of multiple rape stories that you’re here spitting fire on her behalf!!! No evidence, but your groups went to a place of worship to yell insults at people: shouting shameless! Rapist! I watched the video. People who did not care that kids could hear them. No evidence, yet castigating the pastor. Only based on Busola’s word. Did you verify that she was actually raped? Did you see any evidence of the rape? Has it been proven in a competent court of law that the pastor raped her or is popular opinion enough for you? What kind of vicious person is Busola that she did not think of the effect of her actions on his wife, children and even the body of Christ before she took her case to social media instead of the appropriate quarters? Please believe what you will, but know that some of us don’t just depend on inductive reasoning. As for your thunder, it is as harmless as a firefly.

laudate:
Please God Almighty gave you a brain. Kindly use it. People react differently when confronted with danger or sexual assault.

Some people will fight back, while others will freeze and become paralysed with fear. So that excuse of "no resistance" that you are reciting, does not hold water. Ask any psychologist or psychiatrist that has handled or counselled rape victims before.

In your case you were able to fight them off. Thank God for your strength. Pray you do not meet an aggressive hefty character who would pin you down, and make nonsense of your so-called strength.

Secondly, she NEVER got married in COZA . She got married in House of The Rock (HOTR). So where did you hear this lie and you decided to recycle it? And when did she receive this fake car, that all of you are making noise about? Must you guys lie, in order to make a point?

I read it right here on Nairaland and Instagram. God gave you a brain, kindly use it. She was paralyzed with fear multiple times, right? Now we have so many pseudo psychiatrists trying to justify Busolas story. Who ever started the car story must have borrowed a leaf from Busola if the story is not true.

AmazonHippolyta:
Nah you should stop it. Where in my post did I indicate that I supported Busola or I nailed the pastor.
My post has not been about Busola but rape victims and different situations peculiar to them.
You are not others so you cannot speak for others and what should be their reactions.
Leave my mentions I won't waste my time discussing with a sentimental fellow. Allow the pastor defend himself are you his press secretary. Your pastor should take her to court since he is innocent.
So you should stop your silly propaganda

You need to go through the thread probably! You are in my mentions and not the other way round. I prefer to converse with people who take the time to read and comprehend before they make comments.

Yoighaman:
Lovely response.

Thank you

AmazonHippolyta:
These claim of yours have been proven to be false about the Dakolo incident. False lies spread by rape apologist. These claims of yours do you have a verified source or it is just what you heard.
People react to abuse differently there is no one way approach so no need talking like as if you have first hand information on rape and its victims.
Madam do what suits you and believe whatever you like that is your problem.

Like I said, just stop! There’s no theorems from rape apologists that applies to Busola’s case. She was not drugged, no gun was held to her head, she was not kidnapped and conditioned to accept rape as normal. She was in her own house at the age 17 and she did all she was told to do. Meanwhile do you have any evidence that the Pastor raped Busola? If you do, please let’s see it.

Nwodosis:
For those trying to exonerate the Pastor of the rape scandal, are they implying that they wouldn't have bothered of the illicit affair of the Pastor if it were consented?

An affair is totally different from rape. And no, it is not statutory rape in Ilorin. And no, we are not trying to exonerate him. We simply don’t castigate people based on the words of another especially when the story does not hold water. Like most people, I don’t know any of the parties involved. I only know the stories presented. I watched Busola’s video And I’m not convinced she was raped. If it was an affair, he owes his wife and the people who submit to his authority an explanation and not Nigerians.

AmazonHippolyta:
Follow them to laugh and while you are at it.
Read more on rape and the truth of the Dakolo case and not just hearsay from SM as regards your claim.
You know nothing about rape or the effects on it's victims.

Just stop! I’m a woman who grew up in Nigeria! Of course I know about rape. Do you know how many times men have tried to sleep with me against my own will? Even before I became a teenager! Of course I pushed them off! And I told my mum! Busola’s story does not hold water. How can it be rape when there was no resistance! When the supposed victim kept on going to her alleged rapist? When she remained under his authority as her pastor? If he was her father who was responsible for her, then I’d say she had no where else to go to. But there are thousands of churches in Nigeria she could have gone to, but she remained under the tutelage of her alleged rapist! Haba!!!! I’ve read that she married in the same church and was given a car as a wedding present and she collected it! She was 17 and not 7 when the alleged rape took place and she kept going back for more. My take on this is that Busola is still in love with the pastor and has no room in her heart for Timi. Hence her moodiness and all the crap behavior he described. She compares them all the time and Timi falls short in her eyes. I laugh because an affair is not rape.

Momcherry:
I guess you're referring to your mother and sisters. Support evil and evil will be your portion..

You'll eventually get married one day and have daughters.. Pray they don't pass through what most victims of rape and sexual abuse pass through..

No vex o, but has the pastor been proven guilty? Rape is a horror that can destroy lives. False accusation is an equal horror that can destroy lives. Both are sins.

[quote author=AmazonHippolyta post=79848899]Gullible sheeple
Everything na devil handwork for their eye [quote]Gullible you! A woman accuses a handsome successful man of rape and it must be true. Multiple rape sessions at the age of seventeen and not seven! What exactly is she? A zombie that can’t scream or struggle? Multiple times by the same man! Please let me join them in laughing.

Wizkid, that’s mature of you. Thumbs up!!!!

laudate:
So you expected Poju Oyemade to cover up his friend's misdeeds, when such a friend declined to show any remorse, initially? You expect Poju Oyemade to mortgage his conscience, by keeping the matter a secret, because his friend is involved? Kai!

You modern day Christians are funny, o. Poju Oyemade did the right thing, by reaching out to people who could talk sense into Fatoyinbo's head.

If you read his post carefully, he said they were after Fatoyinbo's justice, healing and redemption. This sounds like a man seeking the well-being and restoration, of his friend.

The matter went public when Busola released the story, on social media. The subsequent actions to be taken, should also be done publicly, so that everyone knows what went down. I hope there would be a speedy resolution of the whole issue.

I stopped when I read cover up. Please go back to my comment, read, comprehend then you can make a well informed comment and I will read that.

Omihanifa:
Take it

Never!!!

Omihanifa:
Okay sweetheart

Seriously??

Ikem11:
This why it's not good to side.

*The lady may be telling the truth

*The man may be innocent

What baffles me in this saga is how the celebrities rushed to conclusions that the man is guilty. It all looks suspicious even to point of 40 something lawyers volunteering to carry the case up.

This lady in question is married to a singer who I believe got money to sponsor his wife if his wife was rape, so why make it a social media sympathy when u can easily fill a law suit then the media start hearing it from court.

Don’t mind the lawyers!!! They did not see or hear of the rape of poor girls and even boys In helpless and desperate situations. They want high profile cases that would make them popular.

Omihanifa:
Ok sir

I’m a Madam. If you’re going to make a comment, at least be observant.

Poju Oyemade is a motivational speaker who talks about the Bible like it is a text book for only the schooled. He is obviously more interested in being on the good side of public opinion. He and other pastors should have gone to meet pastor Biodun as brothers and friends. They are the ones to get the truth out of him. If he is innocent, they should fight with him. If he is guilty, they should correct him in love and help him get through this as he makes tries to make amends. They should stand with him when he apologizes. The wives should help strengthen his wife. That’s what love is. Imagine he got in touch with the person Pastor Biodun reports to! Haba! Poju oyemade, remember the Bible says let he that stands take heed lest he falls! Satan attacks everyone: believer and unbeliever. When it is your turn, may you find people who’ll join the court of public opinion and publish their opinions instead of treating like a brother. Exactly like you’ve done!!!!

Tomide007:
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He reached out to him first, then called his spiritual mentors, then they made a decision that he steps down.... Apparently he's guilty, by the way poju oyemade and fatoyinbo are friends.... If he said this then it's final

Please stop posting falsehood. I went back to the post to see where reached out to pastor Biodun, I did not see it.

Omihanifa:
Coza pastor should have saved himself of all these wahala by just accepting that HE DID IT some years ago when he was still in the world. And the whole world will respect him

But for him to continue lying and be threatening to sue the lady is what is vexing everybody

Matter that should have been settled inside his underground office in guzape asokoro extension is now all over the internet

PASTOR LIKE ESCOBAR

How do you know he did it? Is it because Busola said it? Public opinion does not necessarily mean the truth. Rape is a horror. So is wrong accusation. Both destroy lives. Let him be proven guilty by a competent court of law.