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 Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 4:52pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
Freksy:I am in my comfort zone, the God that needed no proxy to Create is with me. You responded abi, that God said the word and Jesus went into action to make it happen? Chai Gen 1:6-7 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. God said and God made...Jesus is God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 4:46pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
CANTICLES:I am not angry, and it's not an insult, just waking you up from slumber which you still seem to be in. Please again, show me where "In the name" is in that passage you quoted. I discussed the significance of "In the name" before showing you the scripture not so? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 4:35pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
dolphinheart:Please show me where i posted that you said so. I needed your opinion and i said you should be truthful about it, true or false ? Oh you have already concluded that I am twisting the bible, while you are the one holding on to Jehova needing a proxy Jesus to create the world. When your jehova spoke, Jesus did what exactly for light to appear? I actually thought you sincerely want to learn, but It's now clear you've hardened up your heart to hold on to a lie. Take a look at the bold in yours and take a look at the bold below, God needed no helper to make anything. Gen 1:6-7 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. The truth shall set you free. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 2:37pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
dolphinheart:Just trying to let you know why you should not confuse person with entity. Meanwhile be truthful : If Jesus, and not the father created all things, Who was it that in Gen 1:1 created heaven and earth. Who said in Gen 1:3 "let there be light". Who rested on the seventh day after creating man on the sixth? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 2:27pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
dolphinheart:When you talk about entity you talk about "Substance and Accident" that make up the entity's nature as I have mentioned before. humanity connotes all that is included in the definition of man, for it is by this that man is man, and it is this that humanity signifies, that, namely, whereby man is man. Now individual matter, with all the individualizing accidents, is not included in the definition of the species.For this particular flesh, these bones, this blackness or whiteness, etc., are not included in the definition of a man. Therefore this flesh, these bones, and the accidental qualities distinguishing this particular matter, are not included in humanity; and yet they are included in the thing which is man. Substance: God is the same as His essence or nature, that is God is God by nature....The father is Omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, without beginning. Same goes for the son (the word), same goes for the Holy spirit. They have every attribute of God, they are God by nature. St. John's testimony is yet more explicit than that of the others. He expressly asserts that the very purpose of his Gospel is to establish the Divinity of Jesus Christ (John 20:31). In the prologue he identifies Him with the Word, the only-begotten of the Father, Who from all eternity exists with God, Who is God (John 1:1-18). The immanence of the Son in the Father and of the Father in the Son is declared in Christ's words to St. Philip: "Do you not believe, that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me?" (14:10), and in other passages no less explicit (14:7; 16:15; 17:21). The oneness of Their power and Their action is affirmed: "Whatever he [the Father] does, the Son also does in like manner" (5:19, cf. 10:38); and to the Son no less than to the Father belongs the Divine attribute of conferring life on whom He will (5:21). In 10:29, Christ expressly teaches His unity of essence with the Father: "That which my Father hath given me, is greater than all . . . I and the Father are one." The words, "That which my Father hath given me," can, having regard to the context, have no other meaning than the Divine Name, possessed in its fullness by the Son as by the Father. Accidents Go back to list of accidents, there is no accident in God. God is a simple entity. I had earlier shown you, using the five rules, how Divine essence (God) is not a person. However, there are three persons that possess the attributes of God, yet God can only be one, hence these three persons are one God. It then means that as persons, they can interact with one another distinctly, yet as God be everywhere (omnipresent). |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 1:05pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
CANTICLES:Please just let your brain work for a minute, don't be quick to push out words. It is very clear that I started by explaining to you the import of the use of the phrase "In the name". If you see any where "in the name" was used for the three you just wrote there together, please let me know. Go check the latest watchtower edition, maybe a new adulterated bible is out that has it. Stop exposing your lack of comprehension. Smh at "in front of". |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 12:21pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
CANTICLES: 4.) What do you mean by" they are not three Gods but one"?Affirming their distinct personalities, yet unity of nature from scriptures Jesus was a great teacher, and He taught the apostles at each point, unravelling the mysteries of the kingdom. He taught them to recognize in Himself the Eternal Son of God. When His ministry was drawing to a close, He promised that the Father would send another Divine Person, the Holy Spirit, in His place. Finally after His resurrection, He revealed the doctrine in explicit terms, bidding them "go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" (Matthew 28:18). The force of this passage is decisive. That "the Father" and "the Son" are distinct Persons follows from the terms themselves, which are mutually exclusive. The mention of the Holy Spirit in the same series, the names being connected one with the other by the conjunctions "and . . . and" is evidence that we have here a Third Person co-ordinate with the Father and the Son, and removes completely the supposition that the Apostles understood the Holy Spirit not as a distinct Person, but as God viewed in His action on creatures.......There are three persons The phrase "in the name" (eis to onoma) affirms alike the Godhead of the Persons and their unity of nature. Among the Jews and in the Apostolic Church the Divine name was representative of God. He who had a right to use it was invested with vast authority: for he wielded the supernatural powers of Him whose name he employed. It is incredible that the phrase "in the name" should be here employed, were not all the Persons mentioned equally Divine. Moreover, the use of the singular, "name," and not the plural, shows that these Three Persons are that One Omnipotent God in whom the Apostles believed. Indeed the unity of God is so fundamental a tenet alike of the Hebrew and of the Christian religion, and is affirmed in such countless passages of the Old and New Testaments, that any explanation inconsistent with this doctrine would be altogether inadmissible....These three individual persons are but one God Elohim is plural. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 12:14pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
Nature Nature properly signifies that which is primitive and original, or, according to etymology, that which a thing is at birth, as opposed to that which is acquired or added from external sources. "Nature properly speaking is the essence (or substance) of things which have in themselves as such a principle of activity. By a process of abstraction the mind arises from individual and concrete natures to those of species and genera. eg, Human(man) nature, Divine(God) nature, this is why we often hear the idiom "to err is human, to forgive is Divine". Based on the above definitions, the the father, the son, and the Holy spirit, share in the attributes of the Divine nature. These includes Omniscience, Omnipotence, Without beginning nor end. They are all of same Divine nature. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 11:02am On Dec 01, 2014 |
Freksy:I am the one who have been showing you what the scripture says, you are the one who have been adding and subtracting to and fro scriptures to help your error. see a few below. Freksy: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 10:52am On Dec 01, 2014 |
TheTerrible:You should read my posts then. All I have done here is defend the trinity. You attack me, but you end up defending the trinity too.  1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 10:35am On Dec 01, 2014 |
TheTerrible:Hahahahahaha, it's because am standing on the truth, which you've just confirmed. Talk to the one who said: Freksy: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 10:33am On Dec 01, 2014 |
Freksy:In other words, God created the world by proxy! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by Syncan(m): 8:39am On Dec 01, 2014 |
italo:My gee, I de feel you. however, truth remains that, if for the love of Christ you did it thus, you're bearing it as a mark just like martyrdom... which people are still undergoing in boko haram, IsIs and the like territories. One thing to ponder is this: when they are asked at Judgement,"Italo did it, why could you not do same, instead of killing an unborn child..."? What will be their answer. Good morning, a splendid day ahead to all. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 8:23am On Dec 01, 2014 |
Freksy:Ah, how come you didn't answer the question I asked you. It was there for almost an hour before you posted this, please give me an answer so I can go ahead. Question Again. If Jesus, and not the father created all things, Who was it that in Gen 1:1 created heaven and earth? Who said in Gen 1:3 "let there be light"? Who rested on the seventh day after creating man on the sixth? Your time starts now! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 14 Bible Verses That Indicate Jesus Is Not God by Syncan(m): 6:35am On Dec 01, 2014 |
ayoku777:Too much talk, yet i can't find any answer within. Ayoku777, frosbel, kei44, I ask you and others again: If Jesus and not the father created all things, 1)Who was it that in Gen 1:1 created heaven and earth?....... 2)Who said in Gen 1:3 "let there be light"?...... 3)Who in Gen 2:2 rested on the seventh day after creating man on the sixth day?..... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 12:23am On Dec 01, 2014 |
To all. I saw the below from the oga at the top. Freksy p[quote author=Freksy:I don't even know what hard word to use in condemning that claim contained therein. However, my question is: If Jesus, and not the father created all things, Who was it that in Gen 1:1 created heaven and earth. Who said in Gen 1:3 "let there be light". Who rested on the seventh day after creating man on the sixth? 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 11:48pm On Nov 30, 2014*. Modified: 12:10am On Dec 01, 2014 |
Every object man can think of, that is, everything that can be subject or predicate of a proposition has been grouped into nine (10) categories, they include: substance, quantity, qualification, relative, where, when, being-in-a-position, having, doing, being-affected To give a rough idea, examples: of substance are man, horse; of quantity: four-foot, fivefoot; of qualification: white, grammatical; of a relative: double, half, larger; of where: in the Lyceum, in the market-place; of when: yesterday, last-year; of being-in-a-position: is-lying, is-sitting; of having: has-shoes-on, has-armour-on; of doing: cutting, burning; of being-affected: being-cut, being-burned. All these are lumped into two main Headings :Substance and Accident. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_(philosophy)] 1. Substance (οὐσία, ousia, essence or substance). A Substance is that; which is not an accident. divided into two: (a) primary substance: is that which cannot be predicated of anything or be said to be in anything.eg. This particular tree, this particular man. (b)secondary substances, which are universals and can be predicated. 2. Accident: That which may or may not belong to a subject, without affecting its essence. All other nine categories of objects above belong to accident. For example, a chair can be made of wood or metal but this is accidental to its being a chair: that is, it is still a chair regardless of the material from which it is made we now have a definition comprising the five notes that go to make up a person: Remember we said that a "Person" is defined as“an individual (primary) substance that is complete, subsistent, and is of a rational nature (a) substance-- this excludes accident; the (b) complete-- it must form a complete nature; that which is a part, either actually or "aptitudinally" does not satisfy the definition; (c) subsisting --the person exists in himself and for himself; he is the ultimate possessor of his nature and all its acts, the ultimate subject of predication of all his attributes; that which exists in another is not a person; (d) Individual---this excludes the universal, which has no existence apart from the individual; e.g. Man, Dog, Angel. (e) rational--- excludes all non-intellectual objects. Any thing being considered, that fails to satisfy even one of these five notes, is not to be called a person. e.g The human soul belongs to the nature(humanity) as a part of it, and is therefore not a person, even when existing separately. (falls short of b) The human nature of Christ does not exists in himself and for himself, but exists “for and in line with the activities” of the Divine Personality of the Word. It is therefore communicated by assumption and so is not a person. (falls short of c) Lastly the Divine Essence (God), though subsisting per se, is so communicated to the Three Persons that it does not exist apart from them; it is therefore not a person. God as an entity is not a person (falls short of d) So there you go, we have our full definition of a person, so anything we are talking about and using person, has to follow these rules. Exercise: Check if the word is a person. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 11:16pm On Nov 30, 2014*. Modified: 11:44pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
dolphinheart:To commence in answering the above questions, let us understand the import of the words we have been throwing around. A person is “an individual (primary) substance that is complete, subsisting, and of a rational nature”. However to appreciate the definition of a person, we need to understand the meaning of each word there, to do so, we have to digress a little, do take note of the following from Aristotle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categories _(Aristotle) Every speech is divided into two: • Either simple: without composition or structure, such as "man," "horse," "fights," etc. • Or composite: having composition and structure, such as "a man fights," "the horse runs," etc. Only composite forms of speech can be true or false, these forms of speech are made up of two main parts: Subject and Predicate. Eg Frosbel has asked a question He has given the answer In the above examples, the font in bold is the subject, while the italics is the predicate. Hence the predicate is that part of a speech that can make the speech true or false (modifies). It is defined on its own as “an expression that can be true of something” e.g. “Is feeding” is true for anything that feeds. Now,In talking about a subject, there is the following: (a) what is said “of” the subject .... This describes the kind of thing that the subject is as a whole, answering the question "what is it?" (b) what is said “to be in” the subject.... a predicate that does not describe the subject as a whole but cannot exist without the subject, e.g. the shape of something. Of all the things that exist, 1. Some may be predicated of a subject, but are in no subject; as man may be predicated of James or John, but is not in any subject. Man, Dog, Angel, 2. Some are in a subject, but cannot be predicated of any subject. Thus a certain individual point of grammatical knowledge is in me as in a subject, but it cannot be predicated of any subject; because it is an individual thing. 3. Some are both in a subject and able to be predicated of a subject, for example science, which is in the mind as in a subject, and may be predicated of geometry as of a subject. 4. Last, some things neither can be in any subject nor can be predicated of any subject. These are individual substances, which cannot be predicated of, because they are individuals; and cannot be in a subject, because they are substances. Shebi we have seen how individual came about in defining a person. Try to bear in mind what individual is and then we go ahead. Next we shall go to define Substance. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 14 Bible Verses That Indicate Jesus Is Not God by Syncan(m): 10:01pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
For those who do not believe in the trinity and those who go about saying "God begat Jesus, and Jesus Created all things", these make Jesus (the word) finite in time, which is wrong. For In the beginning was the word. However, my question is: If Jesus and not the father created all things, Who was it that in Gen 1:1 created heaven and earth. Who said in Gen 1:3 "let there be light". Who rested on the seventh day after creating man on the sixth? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by Syncan(m): 9:45pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
babestell:The more it is shown to people, the vanity of this earthly life, the more people cling to it like eternity. The more the existence of God is made manifest, the more people live like there is no God. Man is a rational (thinking) being and not a being controlled by hormones, man can put his hormones in check, based on prevailing circumstances. Even if the person saved you from the jaws of death, marriage is not what you use as compensation, even on to willingness to kill.This is so wrong. I was thinking they were so in love, probably have tested their love with fire, and found out it will stand, and so were ready to withstand even the trials of SS children. I hope they told the church the truth about their status anyway. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?...Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature(spouse, parent, friend) shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom 9:35-39. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 8:07pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Freksy:The bold fonts in red are my comments on your performance, if you keep quiet, maybe you can learn. But you need to keep quiet first. Jesus is God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 7:50pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Freksy:What do you know about "Person"? Smh. When did God create Jesus? The account of creation is still in Genesis, please tell me which day. If you want to know what that passage talks about then listen: Your mistake is of concluding that Jesus was created because he is called "first-born of every creature." One obvious problem here is born and created have very different definitions. Even when considering natural childbirth, we know a child does not come into being when he is born, but nine months earlier. Neither would Christ have "come into being" when he was begotten of the Father. Indeed, when Jesus is called first-born in Colossians as you pointed out, he is referred to as such before creation and time even existed. He was begotten from all eternity. As such, he would have never "come into being." A second, related problem arises when one considers the title first-born. Even in its Old Testament usage, this title was not restricted to a sense of time. The emphasis was on a place of pre-eminence given by a father to his son. Isaac, Jacob, and Ephraim received the blessing of the first-born though they were not first-born in time. Stop talking what you don't know. Jesus is God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 7:38pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Freksy:Mtchew! So many words, yet have said nothing. Your throne, O God, is for ever...Solomon's reign ended, Jesus reign is forever and ever. The truth shall set you free. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by Syncan(m): 1:41pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
vest:You're welcome bro. This one the thank you appear twice...anyway Good day and a splendid day ahead to all. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 6:08pm On Nov 29, 2014 |
Freksy:In the beginning of what? Do I even need to answer this? In the beginning of time, in the beginning of existence, in the beginning of creation, in Gen1.1. ‘With’ is suggestive of two different persons, TRUE or FALSE?... As long as what you referred to as 'persons,' are not in any way like separate individuals in the category God (e.g., the Father as the 'old man,' the Son as the 'young man,' the Holy Spirit as the 'dove') It is True, else it is False. The word was a God. You are a God. Even Satan is a God. ...We are talking about the God without which nothing was created(Gen1:1), we are talking about the God who was at the Beginning(Gen1:1), We are talking about the God who owns the angels(Rev22:6, Lk12:8-9), we are talking about the God who is the alpha and Omega(Rev21:6-7) Jn1:3,Col 1:16... Jesus created all things, without Jesus nothing was created Jn1:1...The Word (Jesus) was in the beginning. Rev 22:16...Jesus sends His angels on errand Rev 22:13 Jesus calls himself, the alpha and the Omega [b]IS JESUS THE ALMIGHTY GOD? IS JESUS THE FATHER OF JESUS? There is the father, the son and the Holy Spirit, The father is not the son, the son is not the Spirit. The father is God, the son is God and the Holy Spirit is God, yet not three Gods, but One God. There is one eternal God, who exists as a mutual indwelling of three persons: God the Father; God the Son; and God the Holy Spirit, which make up the Trinity. Answer, so all will know your true position. I have answered What is the meaning of begotten? Can the almighty God ever be described as ‘begotten’? Who is the almighty, the begetter, or the begotten? Someone asked this question before you, I will treat it when I respond to him |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 4:47pm On Nov 29, 2014 |
Freksy: Freksy: Freksy:May God help you in your deception as i take down this erroneous write-ups, which I've divided into three. 1. Reasons Ps45 was not talking of Solomon. a. vs 2: Thou art fairer than the children of men: grace is poured into thy lips: therefore God hath blessed thee for ever. You say Solomon fairer than the children of men? This is laughable. And what was solomon's business with grace? Yet we know that the law came via moses and Grace came via Christ. Vs 6:Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever Psalm 44:6. Solomon was never promised a rule that lasts forever, this is for Jesus, Only Jesus did scripture give that glory. Listen to the words of the angel to mary: "and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end"(Lk1:33, also Ps9:6), Vs 7:You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity: Therefore, God, Your God, has anointed You. Did Solomon love righteousness and hate Iniquity? Isn't solomon the one that brought back Idolatory in Israel via his foreign wives? and what is that anointing all about with respect to solomon? Nothing!!!. But in Jesus Christ we see the one who loved righteousness, and hated sin, scripture is filled with this to the extent that the righteousness of Christ is shared to those who believe and walk in his ways. What about the anointed part, you may ask And I will answer, "What does "Christ" mean? Ah yes, it means anointed. Psalm 45 was talking about Christ not solomon 2. Lo he says: "God is a spirit, Jesus is a spirit – all angels are spirit. Behold so great a folly, that someone should equate God with angels, the creator with the created, the eternal with the finite, even in the guise of form. They are equal in form." Never did scripture talk about equality of an angel with God, never. What do you mean by "Spirit"? Spirit could signify: (1) a living, intelligent, incorporeal being, such as angels, demons, or spirit could be seen : (2)as the active essence or breath which was supposed to be the universal vital force...are the angels this one too? Even the angels, are not perfect spirits, how dare you suggest equality with God? But Jesus before he took flesh was God, for every attribute of God was in him, He is in eternity, He created all things. Jn1:1-3, Col 1:16. 3.Point to where I lied (about "I am" ). It’s just your subtle way of introducing what you want to say. Are you not the one who wrote this Freksy:Yet let anyone who cares open Ex3:14 in any translation and see, if there is something different from this "...Say this to the people of Israel: I Am has sent me to you." Ex3:14 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 11:55am On Nov 29, 2014 |
CAPTIVATOR:You think so? You got nothing from my post? ok just like Elijah did to the prophet of baal, he not only put the offering bull, he poured water on it, (1King18:33). Also Just as Jesus told us to go an extra mile when we are forced to go one (Matt5:41), I will therefore start from vs 20 instead of 24 as you are forcing me to. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 11:41am On Nov 29, 2014 |
dolphinheart:If you sincerely want to know, then I will try and take your questions one after another, in order of my choice. I will only move to the next one when we have an agreement with the earlier. Again please stick to what I say I believe, and not to the falsehood you've been fed with that I believe. Eg. In (8.) above, you asked for the origin of the three Gods...I have never said there are three Gods, rather I said there is one God you may revisit my response on Trinity. Again. In (9) You asked "How do we know that the holy Spirit is a God...I never said the holy spirit is a God, rather I said the Holy spirit is God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by Syncan(m): 10:25am On Nov 29, 2014 |
vest:Good morning bro, thanks for the encouragement. Always try to put an "n" before "c" in my moniker to make it "Syncan", else i will not get your mentions. Body:When we talk of body, we talk about these things: corporeal, Material, matter, physical, Spirit: Among various applications, Spirit could be used as: (1) as signifying a living, intelligent, incorporeal being, (2) as the active essence or breath which was supposed to be the universal vital force From the catechism of the Catholic Church 362 The human person, created in the image of God, is a being at once corporeal and spiritual....Man is both physical and spiritual at same time 363 In Sacred Scripture the term "soul" often refers to human life or the entire human person.230 But "soul" also refers to the innermost aspect of man, that which is of greatest value in him,231 that by which he is most especially in God's image: "soul" signifies the spiritual principle in man...The soul may be defined as the ultimate internal principle by which we think, feel, and will, and by which our bodies are animated. 365 The unity of soul and body is so profound that one has to consider the soul to be the "form" of the body:234 i.e., it is because of its spiritual soul that the body made of matter becomes a living, human body; (though made up of) spirit and matter, in man, are not two natures united, but rather their union forms a single nature..... the bold is very important to note. 367 Sometimes the soul is distinguished from the spirit: St. Paul for instance prays that God may sanctify his people "wholly", with "spirit and soul and body" kept sound and blameless at the Lord's coming. The Church teaches that this distinction does not introduce a duality into the soul. "Spirit" signifies that from creation man is ordered to a supernatural end and that his soul can gratuitously be raised beyond all it deserves to communion with God. You may visit the CCC for more. Man is made up of Body and Soul, the soul is the spiritual principle of man, even when it's said that man is made of body, soul and spirit; the spirit here only represents the supernatural life of grace, which makes the soul more and more what God wants it to be. Good morning, and a splendid day to all. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 8:36am On Nov 29, 2014*. Modified: 9:18am On Nov 29, 2014 |
CAPTIVATOR:Apart from misquoting scripture, you also now claim not to understand English abi? From your own post I will show you then, "though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped"... Meaning: Even though he (the son) is God by nature, he did not hold on to the fact that he is equal with God (the father), he humbled himself to take up flesh. This is in line with scriptures Is 9:6, .For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Jn5:18, Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. Jn1:1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Now to your 1cor15:24-28, Note that from the time "the word" took flesh (Jn1:14), Jesus became of two natures (God and man) united in Jesus Christ. Humanity is lower than divinity(phil2:7-8.), such that the father, now have to elevate this new humanity that has been glorified in Christ, after the victory on the cross. It is this new humanity of Christ, which was resurrected, that all will be subject to. Note that as "the word" all things were already subject to him from beginning, for all things were made by him (Col1:16), but as human, he merited the subjection of all things because of his redeeming of mankind. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 8:19am On Nov 29, 2014 |
CANTICLES:Which scripture mister? You mean this one where St. Paul said, "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" Col2:9. Open your eyes guy, Jesus is really God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Really God? by Syncan(m): 8:10am On Nov 29, 2014 |
zyzxx:God bless you my brother. When Jesus was standing before Caiphas, He not merely declares Himself to be the Messias, but in reply to a second and distinct question affirms His claim to be the Son of God. He is instantly declared by the high priest to be guilty of blasphemy, an offense which could not have been attached to the claim to be simply the Messias (Luke 22:66-71). This was because the Jews understood it that the son of God, as Jesus claims, is God by nature. See (jn5:18, Jn8:58). Let them be humble and learn, pride gets them no where. Jesus is really God. |
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