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immhotep:
Do you miss Nzeogwu?

Cc lzaa gmbuharii afamed helinues metay

7lives:
Thank you for this wonderful information.

immhotep:
Please ask metaphysical why he is tired of One Nigeria that baba Awolowo hustled for

Cc lzaa gmbuharii helinues afamed

No, you should ask Cownu (& his dumb piss-drinking minions why they are now fed up with One Nigeria, that slimy political prostitute better known as zik, midwifed.

MetaPhysical:
When our generation get in rulerahip, for every 1000 Ibos that port to Yorubaland there will be a tax charged back to your home states in SE. Yorubaland is not dump ground for Ibo or Hausa. If your governments are reckless with your welfare we will equally be reckless with taxation on your headcount.

7lives:
Thank God for the cross carpeting, Igbos would have been calling the Yorubas mumu today. the British created three regions dominated by three ethnic groups, it is proper for an Hausas to rule the north buts it's is not proper for Yorubas to rule the west.
When Zik went back to the Eastern region, the premier then was a minority, did Zik not kicked him out to take control of the Eastern region?.
Zik took a decision which he felt was good enough for his political ambition, did he not delayed the indendence of Southern Nigeria to make sure the north is also ready?.
Cross carpeting by the Yorubas is the reason Zik cornived with the north to remove mid west, Okuns and Igbominas from the SW map?.
I am personally happy that Zik pitch his tenth with the north, at least we can make reference to this, rather than Igbos making reference to how SW was once an Igbo colony, because the likes of Awo refused to open their eyes.

IGBOSON1:
YES...Zik was more comfortable aligning with the north, as he saw them as more trustworthy! You have a problem with that? And YES again....the major (but not the only) reason for this was the cross-carpeting incident in the Western parliament at the time! Zik probably found it harder to fathom how a people he had lived and worked with for most of his adult life could be so two-faced and treacherous to fall back on ethnic-inspired politicking just to gain power!

Of course like i've always posited, Zik was a bit naive to think Nigeria was ripe for the type of unity and nationhood he had envisioned that led him to support a Fulani man becoming the first Mayor of Enugu! Awo soon brought him back down to earth with a thump! But i cut Zik some slack b'cos his naivete was as a consequence of his pan-Nigerian upbringing and political tutelage. Zik was a true Nigerian....even up to a fault!

The murdering of Igbos in the north pre-independence was not done by the Sardauna! He didn't send them out to kill Igbos, so why should Zik not prefer dealing with him? On that anti-Igbo interview the Sardauna gave: what i take from that (and which for the most part is true of the core muslim north) is that if northerners don't like you, they will say so to your face so at least you know what you're dealing with and where you stand with them ab-initio! This wasn't the case with the likes of Awo, and Ziks' preference to go with the north was later to be proved right going by Awos' utterances and actions in the leadup to and during the uncivil war! If a northerner wants to stick a dagger in you, he will stick it in your guts....face to face, and not wait till you turn so he can stick it up to the hilt in your back like the likes of Awo would do!

IGBOSON1:
Zik was working with whom he felt more comfortable with! Basically, playing the cards he'd been dealt with! It was either the north or western region, and given his experiences with Awo and his action group, his choice didn't come as a surprise!


We have said time without number that Zik was naive to believe in 'one Nigeria' given the benefit of hindsight! But he did....and he must have weighed his options before deciding to align with the region he felt was the 'lesser of the two evils'.

Awos' sentiments on the matter is neither here nor there as Zik himself could have equally been disgusted with Awo antics!

Your point is moot though because the facts as they were and are today is that the Igbo that still believe in 'one Nigeria' have to be engaged in Nigerian politics one way or the other. Now if a secessionist like Mazi Kanu was working in partnership with the northern political elite and you called him out on it, i'd have said you're on to something!

Think mate...think!

LabDNA:
The OP conveniently forgot about Awo and Ojukwu's pre-war meeting.

Talking about starting the story from the middle.

LabDNA:
He had many unpalatable words for the Ibos whom he envied and saw as his competitors pre-independence. Was it the kind of man Zik should have gone into alliance with? Be truthful, would you go into alliance with such a man when you get your independence?

Stop this revisionism and read the book, the book is still out there and I may be forced to start posting some of the excerpts from that book here on this forum if you guys continue with your propaganda and revisionism. It will debunk many of your long-held lies.

Tobichimezie:
This clown just dey throw figures upandan, talk of amaka and ewedu manufactured figures... I guess you were there to count and record all the numbers of Igbos killed since 1945 abi? Smh

gidgiddy:
Yorubas should be grateful to Ojukwu, he tried to liberate them from the North.

Tobichimezie:
If the context of my post is lost on you, you can tell me to break it down for you to understand... then I'll gladly oblige you, cause you obviously you seem cognitively slow to what my post (maybe for context clues) - read my post again and focus on the part where I stated categorically that Ojukwu either out of his genuine conviction in keeping Nigeria one, or his naivety in believing in the concept of unity - convinced the Igbos and other Easterners to return to the North on reconciliatory terms as proffered by the North...of course he would regret his actions later when as events would prove, he found out it was all a ruse, and that the North had something far worse coming for the Igbos the month after...I believe that was the point his faith in Nigeria was shattered as with millions of Igbos and Easterners that were affected...

3 "million" (that figure is very debatable) Igbos may have died, but they at least died in the more dignifying certainty that they died fighting and defending their homeland, and of course the conviction that they were never Nigerians( to me that's more honorable and bending over like the Yorubas did, for the North to literally dominate them even in their region). The Germans, Jews, Russians, British, Americans etc lost far more numbers and heavens did not fall( look at where they are today). So war is a everyday phenomenon, and people die in it...

Tobichimezie:
Get your facts into perspective before yapping nonsense. That was because Ojukwu ab initio maintained a "One Nigeria" stance, perhaps out of naivety or just genuine conviction that unity could be salvaged inspite of the waves of killings that hit the Igbos and other Easterners. Ojukwu made the greatest singular mistake in asking Igbos to return to the North after assurances of their safety by Gowon. It was when the second wave of killings began on an unpredecentedly larger scale that hinged on pure genocide that Ojukwu's eyes opened and knew he was fooling himself all along, reprisal attacks began on Northerners in the East (though largely not reported as the pogroms in the North), but so many Hausas were massacred in the East as well(but not on the scale of the killings done in the North).

But at least Igbos fought back, we can't say the same for cowardly yorubas who also lost some lives in the killings thought not as much as Igbos, but while Ojukwu stood up for his people, your leaders were busy grandstanding to their Northern masters just to appear as "neutral", even though it was obvious your region was occupied Northern troops, yet your military governor couldn't do sh*t. The only region that wasn't occupied by Northern troops was the East, and that was because Ojukwu had repatriated all Northerners from the East for their own safety.

FrLukas:
And you wonder why they are always killing you. Read your statement again and tell me if it sounds like something you shouldn't be slapped for.

They are always killing you, yet you won't stop going to where they are killing you to open your shop.

hargbolahan01:
you are right...awolowo and AG tried to tender that document in 1954 but were strongly opposed by Azikwe and NCNC and later joined with NPC to threaten AG with treason backed by British because of azikwe towards awolowo just that awolowo and AG said that capital should be move out of Lagos and should stop calling Lagos no man's land..

now they are suffering from decision of their forefathers but they blame Yoruba for anything when it is not Yoruba that is killing them

if they had accepted then we won't be having problems we are having now as everyone who have gone on their way

Hexdavewalkersl:
He who runs leaves to fight another day

Yeah, like ojukwu who however, only came back to marry/phock the prettiest olosho in the land

gidgiddy:
The person who deserves a slap is Lugard for bringing us together

No, the one who deserved the hottest slap is Azikwe (and his fellow ibo compatriots) who vehemently fought against the inclusion of a secession clause into our constitution. The fake union would have definitely disintegrated by now with probably no loss of life.

Karma is truly a b.i.t.ch.....

Omoodua007:
Shut it
Did Azikwe not notice all of these be for telling Awolowo Nigeria is indivisible and still went on to partner with them

So you call Yoruba slaves
So igbos were killed pre independence but you still partnered with them. If that’s not slavery I don’t know what is

IGBOSON1:
Oh please, just STFU!

Is this the 'one Nigeria' Zik signed up to? Because i know it's Zik you're referring to!

All you do is blame the current shithole status of Nigeria on the perceived mistakes of people that are long dead! Besides cheering on a ruthless bigot and enabling the Fulani hegemony, what are you doing to revert things back to how they used to be?

I am already working on a book about my Biafra experience. It was quite an experience. I was conscripted into Biafra army at age 16 and had three weeks training. Thereafter, we were to go to the war front and fight. But luckily enough for me, my aunt who I was staying with had a discussion with a colonel in the Biafra army who was a man from Nembe. The Colonel drafted me to S&T (Supply and Transport) and that was how I escaped going to the war front.

gidgiddy:
Better to fight for freedom and lose than to be you people who readily became slaves because you had no fight in you.

That's how the Northerners went to Ibadan, slaughtered the Governor of the Western Region, Lt Col Fajuyi. Then they proceeded to Lagos which you people claim to own, chased away your most senior officer, Brigadier Ogundipe, who was supposed to become the next president and made a much junior Gowon president.

And all you people could do was accept the dictates of the North because you had no Ojukwu who could stand up for you and say no to the North

NimrodEndOfDays:
it sucks to be Yoruba right now...........

That, my friend, is a matter of opinion!

I remain a proud "shoin of the shoil". Haters can take a long walk off a short pier, for all I care.

I no send dem

Yinibixema:
The point still remains that those who he fought for their freedom are still slaves to the same north till now

ChiSomtoChi:
What about the killings of Igbos in 1945 and 1953? Were these killings a form of revenge for the 1966 coup?

MetaPhysical:

Who ask you whether they speak Ijo or not or what LG they are?

Dedetwo, na like this you dey take fail jamb.

What language they speak in Oloibiri?

But what gave you the notion that the poster you responded to above ever sat for Jamb exams? Unfortunately, he didn't .


He was a boy soldier during the civil war however on his one and only outing , his rag tag troops mostly composed of malnourished , ill-trained and poorly-equipped schboys encountered the 3MC who promptly deposited a bullet in his cranium.

Ever since then, he's been going about vomiting asinine comments effortlessly, like a malfunctioning water tap.


Why do you think we nicknamed him "Prof"?

HallaDaTruth:
If buhari is a blessed man to you . May you receive the kind of blessings he has

kelvinginzie:
You are a westerner .........
When I said South, I meant South South and South East

..........Oh well, in that case, you 're an Easterner.

JonDon12:
If there was no massacre, there would have been no seccession.

lomprico:
this is your best defence?

I thought I was about to have an interesting argument with a smart person. shior!

imhotep:
Bow down and pay homage to Eze Igbo Gburugburu Chukwuemeka Odimegwu Ojukwu.