₦airaland Forum

Krismas:
am sure america and israel AGREE for Niger to boot them out of their country?
dey wyne ursef. america and israel are soon to collect wotowoto
and if you dont care about Tinubu government, freely relocate to israel and work on their farms
or wait for OBIdient turn, so that u can join the container economy of lie lie

You seem confused. How does Niger and Obidients come into this.
The Palestinians are lucky to have first class brains like yours on their side.

erico2k2:
It will to some xtent, it now means they can have a passport and apply for visa to go anywhere they want

How does that affect Israel. Still, Palestinians are all over the world. There are already millions of Palestinians living outside the region.

Krismas:
ISRAEL AND THEIR SUPPORTERS IN THE MUD
Mumus think American veto will work on the UN general assembly
mumu. every nation is equal in the general assembly of the UN
america and its fading global dominance could not score more than 9 weak votes globally to stop the inclusion of Palestine as UN member state
Palestine membership is now stronger than it was day before yesterday.
Palestine, can do wot any other country can do at the UN. if this is not significant, why did Israel and America vote against it?
if this is did not pain Israel, why was Israel ambassador almost weeping, cursing the UN and tearing UN charter after the vote?

MEANWHILE,
BREAKING
Al Jazeera reports that Dutch lawyers submitted a request to the International Criminal Court to issue arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Israeli officials.

Israel is not in the mud. Declaring a Palestinian state does not solve the problem. It does not end the war in Gaza or the land dispute in the west bank.
The only thing that can come out of this is more terrorism and the lives of the Palestinians becoming worse and Israel having more reasons to go to war.

Friend22:
Keep standing oh.
If you dare sit down for standing up for your mandate ,you will be the most shameless of them all.

Any Nigeria Christian,even human supporting what Israel is doing is a viper!

No sane humans supports the evil done against the people of Palestine.

It's up to you to claim that anyone who doesn't agree with you is insane. When you get married, and your wife doesn't agree with you on some issues I guess she also becomes insane. No problem one day you will learn tolerance

Idaytesj29:
You see you have a mental problem. A national catastrophe is what you make into an instrument of religious disunity. You are sick and should not be roaming the street. You need a mental rehab. You are a danger to your family especially children so that you don't infect them with your incurable mental illness.

It's funny when you boys start insulting those on the other side as if somehow that would help the plight of your guys in Gaza.

DeepSight:
Many are just painfully ignorant of the history of the conflict. Also many are deluded that Israel is somehow Christian.

But what about the deluded that support Palestine because they a Moslems. It goes both ways.

Krismas:
the joke is on all mumu NL ZIONIST SYCOPHANTS
cos even Nigeria voted for state of Palestine at the just concluded UN voting

The joke is on you. No one care who the Tinubu government voted for. Me and you both know that unless Israel and America agree nothing can be done

God1000:
This is unprecedented, Israel has been dealt another blow

This is not a blow in anyway to Israel. You guys claim to care about the Palestinians but do you think making them an independent state would do them any good?

Elusive001:
You don't get it? Tinubu is his god!

And they call us the enemies of Nigeria

helinues:
Again, talk about your present situation, don't use it to judge others.

We knew government don't put food on masses table, hence face our hustle, whatever government policy shall favour us IJN.

Nigeria is a capitalist country, riches are the priority, democracy is just another set of scam as USA proofed that to the world.

If 70% of Americans can be against the congress passing $8bn or so in foreign aids while there are millions of Americans homeless,yet the bill was passed , one of many, the. what such of democracy is that where the opinions of the masses do not matter .

It's time for Nigerians to accept the reality and stop blaming government about their woes, they have never cared, why waiting for miracle this time?

A friend always give excuse of no light, I asked him a simple question, back then when we were in the same street of Lagos hustling, was there stable light, he said no,so if decades after , you are still waiting for NEPA to bring light without you having alternative, then he must be the unserious one here not the Nepa

Oga did you just say "whatever government policy shall favour us IJN."
First this is using the name of God in vain.
You reap what you sow. Evil policies do not favour the people.
Claiming that the policy of putting the nation in debts that can't be repaid will favour us is basically mocking God.
Then you went on to blame America for all your problems. Somehow your government are the good people but the problem is America. You guys are very interesting.

Donwizbro:
The problem is we're all online warriors
Most of the fights and abuses on nairaland is based on personal interest if our anger is genuine we could have hit the street by now.
And again there's no gain insulting each other on a faceless forum

There is nothing wrong with fighting for your personal interest. Nothing can be more genuine than that. Again what good can come from hitting the streets? All most Nigerians can afford is this faceless forum so I don't blame anyone.

helinues:
If thia government is indeed evil, reasonable number of you would have forgotten about anything like freedom of speech, evil government won't allow that.

Flopped bunkum

Ok the gov is actually very holy. They give you some freedom of speech as long as you are hungry and poor. You are making sense. This is the best gov ever.
As long as you don't get arrested for typing on Nairaland then Tinubu is the greatest thing after sliced bread

Donwizbro:
Why is nairaland full of fights and insult nowadays? One can't read through a thread in peace unlike before without seeing insults or fights.
We know we're all suffering but at least some of the dragging and insults is not necessary please.

What do you expect. You expect it to be filled with happy people celebrating? Your evil gov has turned us all into enemies. Lock 10 men in a room and give them just a slice of bread and see if they don't turn to enemies.

helinues:
Engage without throwing tantrums.

No response for you because of that

NL must be changed until you guys start expressing yourself without attacking others

We can't be making our comments, Waka, see your comments Waka, but una dey always get issue with ours for no sensible reason.. Obidients to be precise

Next

And now you are throwing trantrums on Obidients. Funny people

helinues:
But majority of the serviced debt wasn't obtained by this government

Yes but by a government supported by this government. Good men do not support evil governments. So you have an idea of the people we presently have in power.

helinues:
Oh boy.

70%, that's too much now

All thanks to the enemies of Nigeria

Deltancapo:
Look at this ritualist,a rejected people is taking

Oga, you have clearly watch a lot of movies. Hardwork is the only way to wealth. This is real life rituals don't work.

Deltancapo:
Hacking around the streets is what you refer to as business you need to recheck yourself.

How many Nigerians you've seen doing business in your uninhabitable region.

let me put it like this. I would rather sell gala on the streets of Lagos than teach in a private school and earn less than 40k.
And just because you are lazy and unintelligent and can't do business outside your region doesn't mean that I should be punished for it.
Thousands of Hausa in all parts of my region.
Hope this answers your questions.

Holluwhakemmy:
Buhari era not Tinubu read it again

But Tinubu told Nigerians that Buhari was doing a great job.
If Tinubu supposed a government that led to the greatest poverty in Nigeria, how is he any better? Anyone who supported Buhari is an enemy of Nigeria.

Deltancapo:
Yet you scattered yourselves across the poor north, you're not normal.

It's called doing business.

Deltancapo:
Why are those demonic cursed tribe suddenly keep mute with shame after having expected their shadow lords isrealhell to attack Tehran.

Good news for anyone standing against injustice, oppression, and evils.

Even the so called rafah invasion is a big blow against the evil sponsor isrealhell state, right now as I'm talking you.


No wonder president Joe biden is considering to halt shipment of arms to the evil genocide isrealhell state cos is of no use since October 7,2023 till date the so called sophisticated army are only continuing killing innocent children and women.

Also the fear of Hezbollah is the beginning of their wisdom,as for Tehran the evil sponsor isrealhell has realised that they are no match with Iran in any categories.

Those children of hates celebrating the death of innocent children and women in their own land, will
witness same in this our very generation and in double potion.

As I'm telling you, state of Palestine is imminent.

God reigns.

You worship a false god and that's why you keep losing.

[quote author=KingExalted post=129891682]The government lacks the support and patriotism of the people. The consequences of rigging elections. Secondly, the government is not serious at fighting corruption and fraud. The Government policies cannot attract investors. Lastly, insecurity is an issue here. People can no longer move freely. The Economy cannot grow under these circumstances [/quote
Can we stop blaming the people please. The average Nigerian has no hand in this disaster. Unless you want to blame the idiots that voted for the mad man in Aso rock.

essentialone:
Try it with my child, then post the Video where I get to sight it, and you would wish you were never born. As e be like say Trending Videos don dey make all of una dey mad abi?

It's not about wishes you were never born. Oga you have no case in court. What Nigerian law prevents a teacher from taking a video of his class.

essentialone:
na fake video. if i am those kids parents, I will sue for unwarranted and absurd publicity.

As a teacher, I videoed my students singing a song and you think you have a case in court. No wahala. Please teach me sir
Absurd publicity is under which criminal code

essentialone:
Did you see the face of the Corper, abi Tinubu follow swear for you?

See confused person.
So your problem is the face of a corper? You have not seen a corper before abi.

nairalanda1:
I see. Well, things do cost money.
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Just less N130 according to IPMAN.



That is the latest value by the experts, not made up. The inflated one is as high as 99 million liters.

As at now, it is 66.8 million liters.



So you want us to spend 19 trillion out of our budget of 33 trillion to keep fuel below N100 per liter?

Oga, things cost money.

Please stop arguing, you are making me laugh.

Funny I am equally laughing at you.
I ask you again, how much fuel were we consuming in 2014. It's one thing to be an expert and another to be corrupt. Now do your maths with 2014 figures.

essentialone:
Very wrong to video other people without showing your own face in the video. Even if you are acting Porn. Still show your own face.

Does what you are saying even go well with you? So when you are watching a movie or a music video, you want to be seeing the camera man abi?

nairalanda1:
Which at the moment adds to about 1000 naira for a liter of fuel



Selling that fuel that cost N1000 at N100 per liter means we spend N900 per liter in subsidy, which means , assuming that fuel consumption is 60 million liters per day, means we spend 54 billion naira daily subsidising fuel to reach your N100

Which means we spend 19-20 trillion naira in a year for subsidy....meanwhile our budget for this year is 33 trillion naira. So, how are we going to pay for well most of other things?

So, how do we replace the 19 trillion we have spent in a year? LOANS. and more LOANS...AND More debt.

And you are here abusing me that I do not know maths.

Good evening.

First I am not talking on subsidy so your premise is wrong.
If the oil was imported then it would cost as much but it does not have to be if your refineries are working.
Again you have fallen for the corruption to assum that Nigeria comsumes 60 million liters of oil a day. How many liters were we consuming in 2015. Please do the maths again
Lastly our 3024 budget is about 27 trillion. Spending it on making the life's of Nigerians better is actually the best way to spend it.

nairalanda1:
That shows that you would sell things at a loss to help the poor.

It does not work like that in real life...as seen in our petroleum sector.

This shows you don't understand simple maths.
The oil in the ground is free. The only cost is that of drilling and refining.
Again cheaper fuel is better than the economy. And yes it works like that. I have given you countries that subsidizes for their people. I guess that's not real life enough to you. If petrol was much cheaper, the economy would grow at a much faster rate.

nairalanda1:
So you would sell things at a loss, if you are running a business, to help the poor?

Good evening

If you read what I wrote, you wouldn't be asking such a question.
The oil is God's free gift. You only need to add cost of drilling and refining that's all the people pay for.
And yes the business of government is to help the poor.
Good evening to you too.

nairalanda1:
1. Saudi Arabia produces 10 million barrels of crude a day. They also have less than 50 million people.

NIgeria produces less than 1.8 million barrels of crude a day, and we have 220 million people to share the revenue from crude amongst us.

As you can see, we are not like Saudi. Saudi can earn enough to have a reserve in the billions of dollars (as at 2014, their reserves were 600 billion dollars.). Nigeria, under the guy called Yaradua...had our reserves reach 60 billion

That is why we cannot be like Saudi.

2.Russia....runs a diversified, industrial, exporting economy...and even then fuel is still a bit expensive there compared to us.(It is N843 for a liter there...).

3.Mexico...sells fuel at N1983 naira. Where is the subsidy? Plus they also produce oyel too at home.

4. USA....runs an industrial, diversified economy, and earns money in the trillions of dollars...plus subsides are NOT FOR EVERYONE...they are for the poorest of the poor. Once your earning improves, subsides end.

Plus USA does production subsides, not consumption subsidies. And they don't sell fuel at the equialent of N100 per liter....despite refining it at home. And they are the largest crude producer in the world by the way.




See point no 4


Actually it does. That's why we all can't afford ferraris, or we all cannot afford to build a 20 bedroom house, talkless maintain it.

Things cost money.

First we both agree that being capitalist has nothing against giving subsidy to your government.
Now Mexican fuel is much cheaper that that of the US and that is subsidy.
Lastly the citizens of Nigeria actually need cheap fuel more that the richer Arabians.
Is it not foolish to sell for a profit when your people can fuel their cars.
That's my whole point.

nairalanda1:
Why should you operate at a profit then if you are running a business?

See how the question can turn around to you?

The thing is, it costs money to keep a refinery running. It costs money to upgrade a refinery. It costs money to pay staff salaries that are at global standard because that refinery is competing on the world market. And most of the components of the refinery are made abroad.

It's not like we are.running a socialist economy. We be capitalists

Things cost money. That is why fuel is expensive

I end it here

Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia and mexico all sell fuel at a cheaper price than international price to their citizens and none of them take loans to do this.
Even the most capitalist nations such as the US spend billions of dollars to subsidize for the poor. In the US, we have welfare programs, Obamacare and so many subsidies for the poor.
Capitalism does not mean that you should sell a commodity to your citizens at a price beyond them even when the commodity is gotten from under their soil.
No wise leader profits from the poverty of it's citizens.
I end my case here.