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Aemmyjah:
Yusuf Buhari is in his comfort zone
Let him leave there and be a man of his own

Yet, the guy works and needs to work in order to continue leaving. After his father hands over or dies, he will know that he needs to work

Why do you find exceptions sef?
Mankind is general know it is not easy to put food on the table. Simple as ABC

We know that science are trying to lessen pain during childbirth
But the pains do not always begin at childbirth. It begins before that. Serena williams almost died while giving birth. Many have died and some have had complications that they may not have children again
Whatever the case, childbirth is not a pleasurable period for a woman

Oga what are you talking about. There are and there have been men who never worked and never needed to work throught history.
Go read your history books, you would learn of many royal lineages that did no work and spent all their lives in comfort.
Even in today's world many billionaires keep funds for generation unborn.
Please browse The Vanderbilt family. For 2 generations no one in the family had to work. We're those 2 generations immuned from the curse?
Yes, mankind generally knows it's hard to put food on the table but there are people not living by that rule.
In case you don't know, there are people who's entire lives are funded.
Now my point is that if God created a woman to be barren, that means she was not created to taste the so called curse of childbirth.

Aemmyjah:
How do you reason sef?
Women will experience pains in childbearing. What is hard there? How does that affect women with no child to bear... If someone chooses not to bear children, it is their own choice
If I say that people that have surgical operations will experience pain, will you come and link it to those that do not have such operations?
Note that Jehovah first blessed Adam and Eve which was to pass down to his children and later they were cursed. They (not us) but cos they are imperfect, all their offspring became sinners too and have fallen short of the glory of God and receiving all the imperfections and condemnation as well

Your questions make no sense.
To eat, we need to work hard.
Sweat could be used symbolically for hardwork or something you labor for
Even if you don't do very hard work, we know that getting the food to eat is not as easy as going to pee or breathing oxygen

That's exactly what I am saying. Women who can't or do not give birth do not feel the curse or they escape the so called curse.

And of course, modern improvements in the health sector has made the curse a whole lot bearable.

Again, not everyone needs to work or even to work hard in other to eat.
Take for example, Buhari's son. The guy does not and would not need to work in other to eat and enjoy.
Is Yusuf Buhari spared from the curse?
Consider a woman God created to be baren, does it mean that he has spared her the impact of the curse? Or is she not cursed?
Getting food for some is easier than using the toilet. The food comes to you wherever you want it.
So let's use Yusuf Buhari as our example since we know he has no job and he is not sweating to feed. Is Yusuf spared from the curse?

[quote author=Dtruthspeaker post=119486008]Respectfully, it is not for grown ups to ask stupid questions. I presume you are more than 15 years.

I don't know what tribe you come from but in most place respect is not about the quality of a question asked, you show respect to show that you have sense and we can know how your parents brought you up from the respect you show to others. Right now, I am just wondering the kind of woman that gave birth to an insult machine like you. Your father must have gone through hell. God bless his poor soul.
Again why answer a foolish question. You could have just ingnored. Or is it your calling to attempt all the foolish questions on Nairaland? If it's your job, I don't envy you. This wan pass 5 jobs together.



God is The First Law'er and He clear Said "I will greatly multiply the sorrow of thy CONCEPTION" which means every bad thing enters here whether barrenness or delayed birth or turbulent birth or miscarriage, the whole works.

I am not sure you really understand. Sorrow in conception had nothing to do with barrenness. In fact, they are opposites. It's not possible to have sorrow in conception and barrenness at the same time. Please ask anyone who understands simple English. Or are you reading the Hebrew translation of the bible?

dattaswami:
Punishment given for a sin is only to change the mind of the soul and purify it. There is no trace of revenge in this. The hell is an indication of the intensive love of God to the souls through which God wants to reform the souls. The hell indicates the hectic effort of God put on the soul to reform it and not to leave the soul for its fate.

A father may leave his son since he is not changing inspite of all his efforts. But in the hell God puts serious effort and succeeds to change the soul. Therefore, even thousands of fathers cannot be equal to God. God is not leaving the soul without changing it and this point is indicated by the punishment and hell.

Therefore, there is no point of excusing the Prarabhdas if this true basis is understood. God will try to change the soul through preaching as far as possible. Punishment in the hell is the last resort. Once the soul is reformed all the sins are smashed since there is neither the necessity of preaching nor the necessity of punishment.


All the punishments are only for reformation of the soul and not for revenge. The hell is created by God not with vengeance against sinners but due to kindness to reform the souls. God is always kind to reform the souls, which are His children since the souls are created by Him.

The father will never have even a trace of vengeance towards his issues. Jesus always addressed God as father and He propagated this concept by saying that all your sins will be excused by God if you are reformed. Practical knowledge, the practical realization, which is the reformation, will cancel all your previous bad deeds or sins as told in Gita (Jnanaagnih….). Except this one way, there is no other way to cancel the sins and escape from all the present problems in the world and future torture in the hell.

If you are not doing any sin, you are excused for all past sins

The results of all your good actions will be separate and will not interfere with the cancellation of sins. God will give you good results for all your prayers and any prayer will not cancel even a trace of your sin. Similarly, your charity.

If these good actions can reform you, then, your sins will be cancelled. Therefore, reformation of the soul is the only way by which God is pleased to cancel your sins. Even if you do not believe in God, it does not matter. If you are not doing any sin, you are excused for all past sins and you will live with immense happiness in the world and after death also.

If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

You cannot please God by prayers and service simultaneously doing sins. If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God and you are insulting God. You cannot please and insult God simultaneously. Therefore, every devotee and servant of God should be careful about the concept of the sin and about the only path to cancel the sin.

I don't think you are addressing the present issues.

Dtruthspeaker:
The way you think is crazy, God Cursed the conception and we see that many women never or almost never have kids and you still ask if they are spared from the Curse in their barrenness?

God Cursed that men would suffer and work arduous and almost unprofitable work yet you ask is hardwork a curse?

You are crazy O.

Oga at least be mannered even when you disagree. The curse was not barrenness as you say. Again not every woman without child is barren. For some it is choice . For example, nuns.
The question is, if you feel Good cursed the woman, that mean those without kids do not suffer the curse.
About the man, not everyone does unprofitable work. I don't do unprofitable work. Some don't even need to work to feed.
So again I ask you, were such men spared from the curse?

Braveboi1:
op isi aduro gi nma

Ok we now know you don't have home training are you now happy?

yarimo:
you can't vote platform out. You can only vote candidate out

If you don't vote for APC, they would be out. It's too simple. And if we keep doing this, tell me how 9ja no go better.

yarimo:
platform still remains

It remains because we don't vote them out.

Kobojunkie:
Christianity is a Pagan religion founded on the doctrines and traditions of men, lies which Jesus Christ warned against. So anyone who holds on to the Religion holds on to nothing.

By the way, according to Jesus Christ, only those who are born-again will be judged by Jesus Christ.

Wrong all the dead would be Judged by him

God told Adam, In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground.
So I ask, is hardwork a curse?
Also those born into super wealthy families like trustfund children are the spared from the curse? Since they don't need to suffer.
Same Goes for the woman, women who never have kids, are they spared from the curse?

MrPresident1:
President Trump has blown the last trump.

1 Corinthians 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

These two verses hold the key to decoding the exact time we are in the Bible prophecy because they explicitly tell us that Christ will come at the last trump.

What is the last trump?

In my thread https://www.nairaland.com/4925567/last-trump I said ‘’There will be an unequivocal declaration of victory, and then Christ will come’’. I told you pointedly, in no uncertain terms, that, President Trump will be the one to declare this victory. I said that the declaration will be earth-wide, and will be without equivocation. The declaration of victory will be total!

Ladies and gentlemen, distinguished personalities, and all the good people of the world, I am happy to inform you that the trump has been sounded and heralded to all the world!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpY_KQTKHQQ

More than anything, beware of fake pastors.
Guys like these are the most dangerous people on our planet.

yarimo:
open your brain and learn, party remain but candidate can defect to another platform

Oga the only way society would move forward is if we do not stick to platforms that keep bringing us down.
Imagine the turn around if every APC member loses the next election.
The party in power would definitely sit up

yarimo:
you can't vote platform out you can only vote candidate out

You can and you should. The platform is simply a collection of evil men.
If every party knowns that they can only remain I office through good governance you would see how Nigeria would change.

yarimo:
Op APC, PDP ,APGA, LP,AA and others are just only a political platform. You are voting candidate not platform. Anyone including you can be a member of any political platform

Oya let's vote out the evil platform called APC.
If the platform had credible men, we would have a good government but because the platform is a collection of the worse Nigeria has to offer, we have the worse leadership in history.

jaephoenix:
We descended from the Great Apes, not ape. Get my information right. If you understand taxonomy(or you read my links) it clearly stated humans and other primates make up the descendants of the Great Apes. So yes, scientists believe we are apes. I wonder why you say such things after perusing the articles. There's also the Lesser Apes, which are significantly different from the Greater Apes. So scientifically, apes are not a singular animals. Its a group, which includes humans

Science does not believe man is an ape. The Group called primate is also know as great ape. Please get your facts right. Still, what is the difference between man and ape?

Biodun556:
Dancing governor of Osun state. What is he doing or planning to do?

Just 30 days and you attack already. Evil people. I bet if he gave everyone 10 billion dollars you devils would still find faults.

jaephoenix:
From those links(if you actually did read them) you can pick up the differences.

Clearly, you don't know the difference and you openly said men are apes which no scientist would agree with. So why don't you carefully read your links to see if you would finally understand the difference between man and ape.
You don't even need to be intelligent to observe that there is a striking difference between the image of an ape and that of man. Even a 3 years old knows that are different. So really, what is your point.

jaephoenix:
Lets go.
Humans are actually apes.
We all descended from a family of Great Apes, millions of years ago.
https://australian.museum/learn/science/human-evolution/humans-are-apes-great-apes/

We gradually lost our tails and other appendages and gained some too, all thanks to evolution. Also dietary and environmental changes gave rise to loss of organs like appendices, and the above mentioned tails. We also share certain genes too
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_vestigiality

Due to the close genetic relationship between humans and the other great apes, certain animal rights organizations, such as the Great Ape Project, argue that nonhuman great apes are persons and should be given basic human rights. Twenty-nine countries have instituted research bans to protect great apes from any kind of scientific testing.

I could go on but these are apparently rudimentary knowledge but yet its almost unknown in these parts. People know the Bible and koran more than science. I didn't even apply my medical knowledge in imbibing these.

So not only did we evolve from apes but we are actually apes.
Again you are yet to mention the difference between humans and apes.
Oh sorry, there is no difference you actually think you are an ape. I get.

Kingsnairaland:
Now the art of war is for mature minds it states never allow your enemies to know what you are planning that why people thought Russia wanted kyiv no

It was distraction to make Ukraine remove military men from East part to go protect the capital once Ukraine did that you saw how easy it was for Russia to capture the east part

Even many military men said they learnt a learning from Russia. Deception to get a goal

I know you don't understand the tactics that why you thought Russia wanted kyiv

To get kyiv you need to carpet bomb it one by one which is what Russia is doing

After power supply next is banks etc.

Comedy. And the same distraction led Russia to run from Kharkiv and Kherson and other key cities like Lyman, Izyum, Kupiansk. I see you are indeed 5he greatest war strategist of our time.

Kingsnairaland:
Russia don't need the white spot that just bush no city no good land I did not tell you that Russia did not retreat or withdraw what am saying is because of the bridge river bombing that why they left to a land area now Ukraine can't even cross the river and the war has become stand still and Russia now move to Bakhmut
City in Ukraine to continue the war

And Ukraine is crying there and dieing each day.

Yes Russia only needs the spots they withdraw into.
You seem not to be following this war. From day one, Russia tried to capture Kyiv. They began with helicopter and paratroopers but failed woefully in 3 days.
It's clears that the Russian ambition refuses with the reality of war.

jaephoenix:
Your command of English is obviously poor. Humor in this context doesn't necessarily mean comedy. It means engage me.
There is very little that differentiate us from apes. I betting your knowledge of anatomy and biology is good, before engaging in this argument. If not, I might as well stop. No use debating with another DTruthSpeaker, Maximus or Aemyjah

Lol, I knew you would go there but when you know the difference between man and ape we can discuss.
I guess you watch planet of the apes and you now think that it's real life.
As one who believe that humans evolved from apes, did they not teach you that the difference between man and ape is over 6 million years?
So clearly, you don't even understand evolution.
Please list very small differences between man and ape, that is if there is any. It seems you believe that Haman beings are basically apes.

Moh247:
Fashola was Tinubu's chief of staff , the Lagos master plan was formed by them, Tinubu constructed most BRT lane

What exactly did the Anambra guy achieve in 8 years

Tinubu did not constuct a single brt lane.

Kingsnairaland:
which retreat lol check map Russia withdrew because of Ukraine bombing the bridge river. The blue spot is to small compared with red places Russia took lol.

Oga please browse the meaning of retreat. Withdrawal exactly the same thing.
All your red spots was won before June and all the blue spot was lost after June.
Russia is now on the defensive. It's backwards every for Russia. Your red spots are reducing every week.
How come you never look at the white spot. That's most of Ukraine.

ocelot2006:
Retreating from where exactly? And pls don't mention Kharkiv and western Kherson again; you'll basically be beating a dead horse. So...please do tell.

Lol. Did they not retreat from those areas? The last time Russia made any major progress was many months ago. Since then the Ukrainians have been wiping Russia's ass.
An overrated army of Soviet times tanks and fake S4 missiles.

Kingsnairaland:
Soviet union pushed Germany out including Ukraine so the river was an advantage when pushing German out lol because Ukraine in those places will give Soviet Russia the needed help it needs.

You don't seem to be saying anything here. Please read and repost.

Kingsnairaland:
one tiny land dispute then you can't join nato it in nato laws

I told you Russia don't need the land it just because they want to hinder Ukraine from joining nato go check what Russia did to Georgia and took their land lol and nato ran away

That same thing that will happen to Ukraine.

Now Sweden and Finland own will be solved when the time comes.

Lol. You try to stop Ukraine from Joining NATO only to push touch stronger nations to NATO. Where I come from, it is called stupidity.
I am still trying to figure out how this is good for Russia in anyway.
Right now, they are on the retreat in Ukraine. This is a war they would ultimately lose.

Goldmynemaniac:
Burna's Last Last, Ayra Starr's Rush and Rema's Calm Down both made Obama's list of favorite songs of 2022.

The ex POTUS shared in tweet

#NigeriaToTheWorld

Started from...now we here!!


https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1606432044602605568?t=XuRGvsi2_tHUaPtBzZevRw&s=19

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Only a jobless person would see the need to publish Obama's song list.

Kingsnairaland:
read my past messages I told you that they only went back because of the river if Ukraine destroy the river the military on the other side won't survive so Ukraine can't cross the river because they don't have military bridge and if they use boat Russia wipes them off.

Laughs. The aim in war is to keep going forward. I keep telling you, that river was there during the second world war yet the Russians pushed the Germans across. That losser logic is not working here oga.

Kingsnairaland:
you are funny taking the red area is more than enough for Russia because Russia just want to punish Ukraine you can see Russia don't even need the land because it is the biggest nation on earth lol

Ukraine land it took is punishment for wanting to Join nato so it best to surround them and make then suffer for it

Wise up and see Ukraine is in darkness and cold and bleeding.

Funny. So you think Russia started a war just to take 15% of Ukraine. I see how you think.

Meanwhile, Sweden and Finland and in more advanced talks with NATO. It seems your Russia did not get the memo.

jaephoenix:
Just humor me. Can you list the differences?

This is a serious discussion so forget the humor. If you can't tell the difference between a man and an ape then why this discussion.

Kingsnairaland:
the blue is minor very small thing they rake back because of the river once kyiv is destroyed and in darkness the military men will be worried about their families back home and will be having weak minds then they will not have desired to war on

Oga, can you not read a map. You forget the white area. That is basically 80% of Ukraine.
Let me teach you sir.
Ukraine controls the white areas, the have retaken the blue areas and Russia has retreated to the red areas in your map.The Russian controled is closer to 15% of the country.

Kingsnairaland:
Russia will land lock Ukraine completely soon lol.

But they are retreating so how would they do that.
https://images.app./YJp5wXLCTmNxrbyH7