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Jefferyzz:
I thought as much. It's very close to 2kw last I checked. How did you remove d wire connected to d submersible though.

We did not remove the wire that came with the machine, we only added wire new wire to it.

But we removed from surface to control box, and the distance consumed the 100 meter without any leftover.

Distance of surface to control box is 30 meter plus, so the electrician shared the wire into three and connected it as live, neutral and earth (that's if that's how it's called).

TechGeek777:
I believe this 2kw+, measured our newly installed pump last two months, steady draw was 2.2kw - 2.4kw+, while surge was heading to 5kw.

I will measure it again with clamp meter since we recently changed the wire from meter control box to the surface of the underground pipe to 2.5mm comester.

The pump depth 180ft plus from ground to surface, while from surface to thank is above 30ft.

I strongly believe most 1.5hp consuming 2kw+ are 2hp labelled 1.5hp.

But I will do the test again, perhaps this week when I have the time to know the difference now that new wires are used.

Finally did the test today with "CLAMP METER DT3266F"
Surge: 16.64amp * 230v = 3,827.2w
Continues draw: 8.2amp * 230 = 1,886w

The reduction in consumption is as a result of stronger/better wire used (2.5mm² Comester)

Below is the initial test done in Q1 of this year.
Max Surge = 19amp * 230v = 4,370w
Continues draw = 11amp * 230v = 2,530w

desiji:
They are pratically the same the difference is, one is inside a pouch like Pylontech Batteries
and the other is a standalone like the one Valto sales.
prismatic you can buy in pieces and make into 12V, 24V and 48V

@misB, I believe this has answered your question.

Bambless1:
48v
100a
Max Solar Input above 3800w

100a cc should give you nothing less than 4800w for 48v system, unless the 3800w is a typo.

Also, the information is not complete as you you need to provide details the Mac allowed VOC of both the panel and the cc.

Include the Isc of the panels.

It will be nice to state the name of the CC!

Bambless1:
Good Day Senior men, I have a 5kva Hybrid Inverter With 9pcs of 350watts panels, can I do a 3s3p connection for it with 100amps charge controller

Also drop battery details

Jefferyzz:
Boss there is a 5kva 48v variant of the inverter but my supplier said he's out of stock

Okay thanks, please do let me know when it's available!

fatherbeeman:
Please can u recommend any good 150ah tabular battery for me and if possible price. Thanks alot.

Make una buy LiFePO4 and avoid early complain tomorrow about batteries.

Solar is not about rushing to enter the lane, but taking time to do some research first.

adrusa:
That may be show in arithmetic conversion, but measured values are different. As I said above my 1.5HP is 2.1Kw steady.

I believe this 2kw+, measured our newly installed pump last two months, steady draw was 2.2kw - 2.4kw+, while surge was heading to 5kw.

I will measure it again with clamp meter since we recently changed the wire from meter control box to the surface of the underground pipe to 2.5mm comester.

The pump depth 180ft plus from ground to surface, while from surface to thank is above 30ft.

I strongly believe most 1.5hp consuming 2kw+ are 2hp labelled 1.5hp.

But I will do the test again, perhaps this week when I have the time to know the difference now that new wires are used.

EmperorVamo:
My distance is actually about 10-15metres

Don't know why he insisted on 50 yards

Greed is simply the reason he insisted on 50 yards.

If you are sure of 15 yard (45 feet), don't buy more than 18 yards (54 feet). The extra three yards is to make up for extra distance not calculated for.

Insist he mention the names of each components.

You shouldn't work with any installer that's not ready to state names of components.

EmperorVamo:
I already started talking to Geenex for that exact Jinko 475w PVs before even coming to.post this here thank you very much

This feels like a sign I'm going in the right direction.

My existing backup setup is

2kva /24v Inverter
2 units of 220Ah /12v tubular batteries

Please I'm tight on budget , I have just 350k to integrate solar on it
( basically to
charge about 15 phones,
power a 68W sound system ,
Starlink WiFi 75W
Dc fans (24W ) × 5
1 laptop / computer (50W)

From 8am to 5pm

That's all

Please can 1 545W Jinko panel serve this purpose?
( grid supply comes like 2 or 3 nights in a week and charges the system fully )

Assuming each phone is 10w (10w * 15) = 150.

Therefore 150w + 68w + 75w + 120w (i.e 24w * 5) + 50w = 463w + 35w (inverter idle consumption) ==> 498w

498w * 9 working hours = 4,482w.

Note: Based on the Pmax @ NOCT, the 545 Jinko panel is guaranteed to produce 405w, work with this value.

Jinko 405w * 2 Panels = 810w * 3 sun light hour = 2,430(it's evidence that this cannot produce what's required to charge the listed devices above).

Note: It's possible to get up to 4-5 sun light hour in Nigeria, but working with 3 hours will put you on safe side

But if you should go for Jinko 545w * 4, it would serve you well.

But you can manage the two panels if you seriously need to integrate solar.

If I were you I would wait till my fund is complete for my desired setup.

You can buy panels and keep while waiting!

dollarnaira:
Most installers will eat ur present and future from outrageous quotes.
Their greed will make solar unattainable and at the end they will make you feel as if they are doing you favour.

Truth, in business I believe it's better to make 30k profit regularly (perhaps everyday) than make 100k profit once per week.

Also, it will get you more referrals and that means more money.

EmperorVamo:
1 400w Solar Panel 3 145,000 (435,000)
2 40A Charge Controller 1 85,000 (85,000)
3 8 L-R Roof Mount 2 8,700 (17,400)
4 6mm2c Wire 50yards 2,150 (107,500)
5 Solar Kits lots 6,400 (6,400)
6 Service Fee 1day - (50,000)
TOTAL INVOICE - - N700,000

See quotation I was given for only panel integration

I just dey laugh since morning

Is this quote for 12v or 24v system?

The amount for panel will get you Original Jinko 475W from Gennex @ 129,500.

40A cc, you sure say no be PWM him go install for you?

The amount quoted will get you 10mm² (2,200).

Look for another installer please.

Making profit is good, but making targeted weekly profit from an individual from a single deal/sales is something else.

Always tell your prospective installer to state product name in the quote.

You can reach out to installers here for quote!

Jefferyzz:
It's the way the inverter is. I added the extra fan cause the body get warm but d inverter fan will not start up until there's 50% or more load on it. If this should continue. It won't last long before parts start failing.
Fan should b controlled by temperature not by certain percentage of load

AC input has switch(MCB), u can always put it on n off

I'll ask

Thanks for the info

Jefferyzz:
Still working 5n. There is a little defect in the design which I worked something to it. The fan doesn't come on unless the load on it is up to 50%. Iron will b running on it for 30mins n fan won't come on. I bought bigger fan n fixed it on the other side with a switch, so I put it on b4 I put on my iron.

Absolutely, its always on even wen I'm not at home, with freezer on it. I can count d number of times I put it off.

Ac charging parameters are adjustable, it's not an hybrid inverter, d only charging option is AC, charge controller handles the solar charging.

I no of 3.5kva 24v, don't know if there is a 48v variant.

Was the defect on the inverter before you purchased it?
The bigger fan you bought is it serving as a cooking device to the inverter?

If NEPA and Solar are both available at same time, is there a way to isolate NEPA and charge with Solar ONLY (either by means of breaker/change over)?

Can you confirm the 5kva 48v from your source?

Jefferyzz:
It couldn't b yes if
1. If ur battery is lifepo4 of 3kwh up
2. If ur panel is 4kw up n u can pump wen the sun is up, even wen d sun goes down ur panel should still generate up to 1.6-2kw while the remaining 700/300w will taken from ur lead acid batteries.
And most importantly, ur 3.5kva inverter must b those variant with toroidal transformer, they handle surge better, if ure using a high frequency inverter, don't pump

Hello bro,

1. How is your "Crown Ricco" inverter doing, has it develop any fault since 9 months you have been using it?

2. Would you still recommend it?

3. Can one use it to set the battery to charge from NEPA only or from Solar only?

4. Do you know how much 5kva 48v would cost for Crown Ricco?

isangjohnson:
Someone told me yesterday that he's using 3 pcs of battery for his solar.
I argued but he insisted that his tubular batteries are 3 pcs and he has been using them for 1 yr now.
How possible is this information and how will the configuration look like?

He's either on 12v systems (he paralleled the three batteries) OR 36v system (which I doubt if there's anyone using this) then he connected all batteries in series!

zinodizt:
Can you recommend any vendor here for that?

Contact https://www.nairaland.com/valtech

Elcapitan0:
Hello guys. Please i have an issuei need your expertiseon. My friend have a 5kva 48v felicity hybrid inverter with 8 400w panel. The problem he is encountering is that most times, the panels does not fully charge on a well sunny day as the maximum he ever got was 800w showing with not too serious usage . He is of the opinion adding more panels which I told him to hold on for now. On the spec sheet of his inverter, i saw max solar voltage to be 145V and i saw an 'off grid' hybrid 5kva felicity inverter with 500V max solar voltage.
(Don't know if they are different). Please guys what can be done?
The last pics was the off geid inverter i saw

From the 2nd & 3rd picture you posted, it shows the panels are supplying 63v & 172w which means the connection is in 2s 4p and this is not ideal for 48v setup.

If all Panels as same products, bring one down and check if the VOC is less than 45, then you can buy one more panel with same specifications and wire then in 3s 3p.

But if the VOC is Above 45v and you desire to use IVEM5048 which the Nominal voltage is 360v, then you can make use of the 8 Panels without buying another panel; if money is not an issue just buy one more panel to cater for voltage drop and wire everything in series!

Valto:
48v 160ah 8192kwh lifepo4 lithium battery! made with 16pcs premium EVE 160AH LIFEPO4 cells with authentic QR codes, all cells capacity tested and pulled above ratings. Bluetooth bms deployed, 10mm copper battery terminals, 125A TOMZN circuit breaker, voltmeter and fully compressed cells. battery box comes with tyres for easy mobility with lock
whatsapp 0802-057-4628

Your packaging too make sense, money to chest this bill at the moment be the issue.

Man just involved in some projects wey require immediate attention else things for go the other way around.

I still get you for mind though.

Dishtech:
Forget about the 195v written on the Felicity charge controller. Don't give it input voltage more than 125v or else it will bring out fault light at every peak generation.
Since your VOC is 41.30v so I recommend 3s i.e 3x41.3= 123.9v.
Also since your charge controller is 100A,
At 48v the maximum solar panels used should not be more than 4800watts,
At 24v the maximum solar panels used should not be more than 2400watts.
At 12v the maximum solar panels used should not be more than 1200watts.
So if your battery system 48v I will advice you buy one more panel to make it 3s3p, if the system is 24v or12v your panel is more than the capacity of your charge controller if properly installed.

Thanks for your input.

zeestone99:
Only affordable cc I know is 60a

Okay

earthrealm:
it doesnt show it, thats why i dont like the felicity CC. someone has described an alternate cumbersome method to install a 3rd party device for the data logging. felicity no try, for a 100k device...e supz get. data logging, if na 60k powmr wey no get am, its a bit understandable

The 100A is about 150k.

Please can you tell the person maybe I can read it up.

Or if you know of any 80A with 180-190vdc that log daily harvest within the price range of 150k max kindly recommend.

Trippledots:
I really don't know about that aspect for the product.

Okay

Trippledots:
Well, nothing beats hard evidence from field most times. Find out what the error code means and be sure it's not maybe a bug or firmware issue correctable with a firmware upgrade...@bolded: Ideally that doesn't increase.

Thanks, any way to know total daily yield?

Trippledots:
41.3v x 4panels=165.2v < Felicity 195v so Yes, the Felicity should work fine with those specs and config

Thanks for your input.

I just read on YouTube from a user with this same 100A variant.

These were his comments about a year ago "The most you can connect is 3 series. I tried 4, it brought the fault code 21 . When open current got to 171 volt. I use 100amps", although he didn't state his VOC.

My question is will this calculated 4s 165.2v increase on any condition (hold/hot weather) or will it only decrease?

Secondly is there a way to know/get the maximum daily yield from these Felicity CC?

Jefferyzz:
No. D cc max DC input is 150v. Ur panels voc is wat will determine how u will arrange it.

The (Voc): 41.30V.
Full Specs ==>
Maximum Power(Pmax): 380W
Maximum Power Voltage (Vmp): 34.74V
Maximum Power Current (Imp): 10.94A
Open-circuit Voltage (Voc): 41.30V
Short-circuit Current (Isc): 11.68A

On the other hand there's a 100A Felicity CC with below details,
Max Pv Input Voltage = 195V
PV Array MPPT Vol Range = 160-170V

My question now is, can Felicity 100A with above spec take the 8 panels using 4s2p config?

Or should I use Techfine 60A/80A with (Max PV Voltage: 150V) and go for 9 panels using 3s3p config?

Please I need the one that will produce optimally so I know the total number of panels to purchase and the exact CC to go for.

earthrealm:
@techgeek, are you sure?..most hv hybrids have 240v as nominal input voltage.

@trippledots. Really
A huge error on your part if true...am suprised it even generated any meaningful output.
You are an old hand here...
Anyway, waiting for ur clarification

Most likely, because Felicity IVEM3024 is the 3KVA variant that will give such HV.

IVEM3024 Sepc:
Nominal Voltage: 360
Minimum Startup Voltage: 120
Maximum Voltage: 500

IVEM3024 24v, 360V Nominal Voltage!

earthrealm:
#@Bolded, this is a very poor/inefficient setup, for a hybrid hv inverter of 500v voc, the avg voc of a 325w panel wud be about 42volts, so you would be sending about 160volts...which will drop to about 110volts when the inverter is working---. what is the nominal input voltage of the inverter?. whats the make/model

Jefferyzz:
No idea. That's exactly how my inverter looks like. Most of these companies do rebranding. It might even occur that both of them are not actually the real owners. Just added their own name to d inverter.

Okay thanks. For your Techfine CC, does your seller have 80A variant?

Do you know if the Max 3200W/48v for the 60A variant can carry Jinko Half-Cut 380W * 8 (3040W)?

Jefferyzz:
I use crown Ricco inverter n it handles heavy load 5n. Fan doesn't kick in until u av up to 50% load on it plus d fan is not loud, the transfer inside is toroidal. The 2.5kva variant is around 130/140k 3.5kva is 170k. The surge rating is 3x the actual inverter rating. It has MCB built on the AC input n output. The idle power consumption is less than 30w.. 26-28w thereabout. It has 30a AC charger as well. I don't use the AC charge so I don't no aw good that part of the inverter is. Aside that, every other thing is ok.

Between Crown Ricco Plus and Grovolt Ricco Plus sold by [url] https://onyxline.com.ng/product/grovolt-offgrid-inverters-3-5kva-2800w-48v-rp-3548/ [/url], do you know who copied each other?

Jefferyzz:
08089375004 or 07034782239
Call or WhatsApp

Thanks

Jefferyzz:
The seller definitely won't b able to answer this.

Okay please do let me know if you are able to lay your hands on the manual.

Can you give the seller's details?