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Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 12:09pm On Jul 22, 2023
Jefferyzz:
I had to check back on our conversation. Can you snap ur CC screen where d amps is displayed. I want to know if the 9a is the panel output or your CC's output
Hello bro, how does your LiFePO4 battery act when floated with your Crown Ricco Plus inverter, does BMS shut power from CC and power the load via battery power?

OR

Does it leave the battery in a floated state and allow power to pass through CC > BATTERY > LOAD?


Note: This question applies to when Load is connected and pv is available during the day!
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 11:27pm On Jul 21, 2023
Those using Standalone inverter with separate CC to charge they LiFePO4 battery, what happens when the battery is fully charged and you still have Load connected and solar is available.

1. Will the battery keeps charging just to supply power to the load?

2. Will the BMS shutdown inflow of power from the CC and thereby supplying the load directly from the battery?


I know that with hybrid you can set power to be used from solar alone, but I am considering how possible it will be to use the power from pv(when available) and not touch you battery when you have a floated battery in a standalone point of view.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 5:13pm On Jul 21, 2023
isangjohnson:
Go for 48v 230ah battery.
Too much, 48v 100ah + 48v 3.5kva inverter is more than enough for him.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 10:29pm On Jul 20, 2023
isangjohnson:
I saw 149k for 550w Jinko pv when I checked their website today.
Do you know any good 550w tier 2 pv and 3kw 24v hybrid inverter with higher Vds [/b]I could recommend for him?
I don't know about Tier 2, but you can try Felicity 550w.

For the inverter, find below:
[b] 178,500

Zinox Ipower X max 3kw Inverter -3000w Mppt
wwwDOTkongaDOTcom/product/zinox-ipower-x-max-3kw-inverter-3000w-mppt-6137671
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 6:23pm On Jul 20, 2023
isangjohnson:
My friend wants to purchase 4 pcs of canadian pv 300w at 65k in alaba market.
I wanted him to buy 2 pcs of 550w Jinko pv from Gennex at 149k each, buy 3kva 24v hybrid inverter with higher Vds and go for 2s1p.
I hope he won't fall into the hands of stiker pasters.
It's 545w @ 148,500 from Gennex, not as boldly stated.

Your friend must definitely enter one chance, if he goes against your suggestion.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 5:25pm On Jul 20, 2023
drered:
Thanks for your response - Never heard of the Valto brand, is it any good? and is there a reason why you'll chose tubular batteries over lithium in this scenario?

I could go for the 5kw but my intended load rating is not a lot - A laptop, CCTV with 5 cameras, 3 fans & 4 energy saving LED bulbs. Focus is on the power reservoir really.. I am also now skeptical about the Growatt brand after reading @viperVIP 's experience with the particular model.

Copy you on the panels also, thanks.

What inverter and battery brand & model would you recommend?
Can you provide the wattage for the bolded and how long you intend to power them within 24 hours?

For inverter, get 24v/48v 3.5kva "Crown Ricco Plus or Grovolt Ricco Plus", they are same with different brand name. The idle consumption is 27w - 35w Max.

For the battery Valto's LiFePO4 battery is better, as I will never choose Lead Acid (Tubular, AGM, etc) over LiFePO4.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 5:01pm On Jul 20, 2023
easyyoke:
Why would you advise someone to sell their solar panel? Panels last for 25years and you can continue to add as many as you like to it provided the panels are thesame voltage panels. There is no reason to sell panel. You are even advised to overpanel your system(i.e use more panel than you typically need if money is not your problem). That way, days sun does not come out well, your overpanelled panels will fill in the gap. There is no reason for him to sell his panels. All he needs is a good installer who knows how to use 2s2p configurations so far the panels are thesame voltage
Are you new here?

How can you suggest 2s2p for 48v system?

Read my write well, you will understand why I suggested he sold he panels.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 4:13pm On Jul 20, 2023
drered:
Thanks a bunch for your response - I am thinking of just getting a new setup - I have narrowed this down to 3.5KVA 48V Growatt hybrid inverter and 7.5/[b]10KWH 48V Growatt Batter[/b]y and integrating with the existing 4 350W solar panels. I would just sell my current Yohako inverter, mppt charge controller and 2x220ah luminous battery.
If you have the means, also sell the panels as am sure those 4 panels can't serve your anticipated setup.

I advise you go for Valto's 48v 230ah rather than 10kwh Growatt battery.

Get 475w Jinko panel * 9 (from Gennex)
OR
Get 530w Jinko panel * 9 (from Zeestone99)

If money is not an issue better go for 5kva Growatt unless you don't have much load.

With above you are sure of getting your return.

My 2 cent!
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 10:58pm On Jul 19, 2023
FEGEITOK:
There is another issue to address.

I recently bought Jinko 545 watts panels.

The datasheet states those values for two states STC (Standard Test Conditions) and NOCT (Normal Operating Cell Temperature) which of those values should he use?
STC
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 10:51pm On Jul 18, 2023
isangjohnson:
Please, where can I buy 450w era pv?
I am sure you are better off with 475w Jinko from Gennex.

Check this -> energymallDOTng/product/era-solar-450w-half-cut-mono-solar-panel/
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 8:37am On Jul 14, 2023
osayuwamwen:
U are not a serious business person, u should be flooding this thread with prices of yr product, even if price fluctuate u should update yr list on a regular basis, this tins may not be as expensive as it is made to believe pple can be a bit more patient and save more to buy this lifepo4 battery wen they can compare prices, put the price bro if there's an increment still update for this thread nor get that mindset say serious buyer go always inbox u for price that na old mentality
Very correct on the bolded.

@Zeestone99 has one of the longest list of items if not the longest, and prices are stated in all and with 500 - 1000 lesser compared to what's stated on his website, that shows you how he ultimately gives discount to those on this thread.

Rather than buying Felicity battery I will stick to Valto's LiFePO4 battery.

Publicity/Referral increase sales more than direct dealings.

@Valto thanks for listening to the voice of wisdom.

In my line of business, I get more business from Referral from people who might be sceptical to believe my service, but with Referral I don't preach much.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 8:30am On Jul 14, 2023
isangjohnson:
Boss in this part of the country with a porous/non linear system, theory works for about 90% and practical works for about 10%.
Your calculation works for linear system where virtually everything is up to the standard, it works also for diy lifepo4 cells coupling.
We kept preaching the gospel of battery capacity test in this forum but unfortunately some people don't have time for it
Let the guy carry out capacity test and let's see if the 220ah battery will be up to 180ah.
When I was using 4 pcs of 12v 230ah tubular batteries, I derated them to about 160ah each and discharged 30% from them. I later sold them after two years of usage and I'm very sure the batteries will serve him for the nex 3 to 4 years if my usage method is applied.
Going solar route require a lot of planning and awareness. Anyone that can't give lead acid battery baby sitter should move to lifepo4 battery. The price different is very small......
Again, day time loads of about 1kw with the stated pv array may not have been given enough room for the effective charging of those batteries which I'm suspecting to be tubular.
I suggest he charges those batteries to float first and allow them to rest for 1 to 2 hours before testing each of them to be sure they are all in good condition.
I like the way you derated yours to a much lower Ah for longevity sake.

Rather than buying these Lead Acid batteries labelled 220Ah, I rather buy Valto's
LiFePO4 battery of 48v 100Ah.

Since @valto said it's above stated capacity, it means 100Ah can give 105Ah.

To me LiFePO4 is the way to go.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 8:11pm On Jul 13, 2023
finebois:
Solar Inverter expert in the house, help me out.
I just did a solar inverter system of 5kva. 4 batteries (vitra 12v 220ah), 10 300w canadian solar panel. To carry my load bulbs, tv and 800W freezer.
Now here is the problem.
If I put on my Freezer, the inverter won't use more than 30-40 muns before it start showing low battery.
If I off my freezer and use only bulbs and charge phone, the inverter will use like 8 hrs.

What could be the problem. We have tested the battery and it shows accurate readings.
Please help me. Ejoor
The wattage consumption of the freezer is enormous, do you mind sharing the model and size of freezer?

Are you sure those batteries are okay?

220ah * 48v = 10,560w / 2(i.e 50%) 5,280w

With 5280w of usage I see no reason why it Should give mere 8hrs just to charge phones and use bulbs (100ah LiFePO4 battery should be able to give you 10 hrs just to charge phone and with good energy bulbs).

Unless you are able to state the wattage of those bulbs and how many they are in numbers & also state the idle consumption of your inverter, I don't think you will get a satisfactory response.

Which battery chemistry do you use, tubular or AGM?

Also, do your batteries float daily?
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 12:28pm On Jul 13, 2023
Valto:
these are coupled battery with different bms ratings and accessories, price can't be static. real serious buyers DM on WhatsApp or telegram to discuss their preferred order. this month alone,i have discussed and executed order of over 15 clients from here. so if not interested,simply ignore my post bro cool
@Valto, I know you have your decision not to put prices on your products, but this statement is a bit harsh, as readers here might not be interested but they have friends & connects that might be interested, and if they be in a position to recommend are you saying they should ignore your post because they are not interested?

Depending on those you have met or done business with, they're those who will only purchase products based on recommendations from someone they trust and know.

Note: I am not asking you to put price either as you alone have your reasons and you know what's best for your business.

#NoHardFeelings
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 6:18pm On Jul 10, 2023
Olarewajub:
Attached is a picture of my Charge controller spec.

Panel: 4 panels (190 watts each)

Battery: 2 tubular Batteries (220ah)

MPPT Charge controller: 40A

Inverter: 24v

I want to get an addition of two panels (250-300Watt).

Would this be too much for the controller?
The voltage of the panels is what will determine if you should go for higher wattage of panels.

Generally, it's advisable to go for more two set of same wattage (i.e 190w), this will keep you CC in safe limit
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 6:15pm On Jul 10, 2023
Lagosbynature:
This is my current setup

1kva 12v Mercury Direct Inverter/UPS

12v 100ah Battery

I charge it from wall socket via phcn/gen.

I want to switch to Solar and I want the solar to power my load during the day while or after charging my battery.

Heres my load

1. 170w laptop
2. 60w tripod light
3. 24watt fan
4. 100 watt for miscellaneous (phone charging etc.)

Note all of this will not be on power at the same time.
Max, 1,2 and 3 load will be on power, making 254 watt max load simultaneously.

Q1. Can a 300-350watt mono solar panel power this during the day while charging my battery?

Q2. If the solar panel cannot power 250watt load, will the load fall to my inverter and battery whilst they continue recharging from solar?

Q3. How many amps charge controller will I need?

Note: The mercury direct inverter/ups has inbuilt charger that charges my battery when plugged into a wall socket for phcn/generator
1. The rule of thumb is that you should expect at least 70% production from your panels if you purchased Tier 1 Panels (Canadian, Jinko, Era, Trina) but if you go for Tier 2 you can expect 50% production.

70% of 350w will give you 245w (350 * 0.7). This is below your load 254w.

I advised you go for Jinko 475w as you are expected to get nothing less than "357w".

2. Yes

3. 40amp (475w / 12v) = 39.58amp which is approximately 40amp.

But if money is not am issue go for 50amp CC as it's advisable you size your CC above 100% to about 125% (40amp * 1.25 = 50amp).

The reason for sizing above required is that your Panels can produce more than stated watts if you go for Tier 1 Panels (which is the best thing to do)

PWM or MPPT will do fine under 12v system, but MPPT has little edge over PWM CC.

But if you are using 24v or higher, then it's a must to go for MPPT.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 2:20pm On Jul 10, 2023
fatherbeeman:
Pls i need your input: i want to buy 2.5kva/24v inverter pls recommend for me budget 150- 160k.,
Also i want to buy 2 inverter battery for the 2.5kva... budget 300k pls is there any good battery of 220ah for that price or i should go for 150ah battery (luminous).
Thank you.
Although you didn't state if it's hybrid or stand alone you need.

You can purchase Crown Ricco Plus or Grovolt 2.5kva/2000w 24v inverter, you are better with LiFePO4; contact @Valto for 100ah 24v.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 7:31pm On Jul 09, 2023
luvablesam:
What's VOC? I don't understand. I am a novice
Open Circuit Voltage or VOC is shown in the panel specifications and is the voltage available from the solar panel when there is no load attached.

Check back of your charge controller & back of the panels
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 4:03pm On Jul 09, 2023
luvablesam:
I need some advice:

So I have a 40AH LIthium battery, a 150watt panel and a 30A PWM charge controller.

Is it safe to charge the battery with the panel and chargevcontroller permanently?
100% safe, the 30A CC can accept minimum 360w and perhaps 420w max for 12v.

If you have the means, add another 150w panel and parallel both of them to charge your battery faster.

I will also advise you post the VOC of both the CC and panel.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 7:12am On Jul 09, 2023
Justice629:
I experienced same issue when I newly installed the inverter 2yrs ago, pv wouldn't power the loads without batteries or grid connected, nor power on the inverter when it's off due to LVD.

Imagine what will happen to those fully off-grid without generator when this happens.


I conclude it was a Chinese dubious advertising of over stating features while under delivery.

Besides that issue the inverter has served me reliably for 2yrs now running 24/7 without issue.

Imported 3 more to install in my office and now hoping the pv batteryless features will be functional😁 now that I know better.
I downloaded DavidPov videos regarding Growalt videos on Friday night and watched the videos yesterday morning before seeing @ViperVIP comment regarding the inverter and I tend to agree with you on the claims of certain aspects of they inverter.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 1:53am On Jul 08, 2023
FEGEITOK:
You asked good questions
Yes oh bro, we ask to know and also pass the knowledge to those who which know.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 1:50am On Jul 08, 2023
jonescosmos:
Nice Question Bro.

This is because the 16KW I had was from JustStandout (A dealer in Lekki, Lagos), and I noticed that once I go Off-Grid the Inverter could not handle load above 12KW, I did everything I could but no avail. I contacted JustStandout, they could not help, they kept upgrading the inverter from one firmware to the other. I contacted Deye Support and they upgraded the Inverter to the Latest Firmware and the problem continued.

I disturbed Deye Support so much until they asked me to open up the inverter and send pictures of the PCBs inside the Inverter.
I did exactly so and I discovered that the power board inside the Inverter is of the 15KW US Version which is the SunSynk 15k-2P and has a UPS Backup load power of 12Kw Max. Which was why I could not go beyond 12Kw while Off-Grid.

The Inverter was sold to me as the 16KW EU Version which has UPS Backup Power of 16KW only to discover that the PCB is US version. It was clear to me that either JustStandout has scammed me or they got scammed by their supplier and they passed it on to me. Because I engaged them after this discovery and they sounded not to have any idea about these technicalities.

After weeks of words battle with them, I decided to place an Express Order from Deye for the 2units of 8KW EU Version which each has a UPS power of 8KW, because I didn't want to fall another victim to the 16KW Scam.

I received them and deployed them as shown in the picture and then I decided to ship out the 16KW to my house in the Village to be deployed later this year. Since I don't base there. At least no yet. hahahaha

As for the CC, I use the inbuilt MPPTs. Although I miss the inbuilt 3x 290A MPPTs of the 16KW because the 8KW has inbuilt 2x 190A MPPTs each. The 16KW starts sucking solar energy as early as 6am as is capable of guzzling everything that looks like energy from the panels, while the 8KW waits till around 9am at times to start picking up solar energy and cannot go beyond it's 190A capacity.
Nice one bro, it's a pitty most Nigerians always speaks grammar once money has changed hands. How can they say they don't know the capacity inside for a product like Deye/SunSync?

Well I like your monster machines as real money are spent on them.

Enjoy!
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 11:48pm On Jul 07, 2023
jonescosmos:
Hello fellas, longest time.
Who remembers this my inverter room?
Well, this is what it looks like right now.

2x 8KW Deye Hybrid Inverters EU-Version.
4x 15KW Felicity LPBF48300 Battery Packs.
24x 600W Canadian Solar Panels.
10x 540W Felicity Solar Panels.
Plenty Automations.
ETC.
I remember vividly that you were using 16kw Deye hybrid Inverter, what happen that you are now using two units of 8kw?

Also, do you use separate CC to charge these 60kwh batteries or are you using the inbuit CC that came with the inverter?
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 2:45pm On Jul 06, 2023
Enyinne:
Oga if u want to talk to me , just do it straight up ,no dey go corner corner grin
@Valto, one of the silent reader is spotted here, na people like him I dey speak for grin

@Fegeitok, I like the way you are able to balance things by taking care of the primary things you can't do without before going autonomous as desired.

That's one reason that has held me back from going Green all this while, but gradually saving up for it and at same time taking care of other things.

In naija, it's very easy (I won't say otherwise), to get things done as at when desired when many depends on you for survival, if you don't balance them all you will look like a slowpoke if you rush to go Green.

The goal is to do your research very well and possibly ask some stupid questions to get better understanding of the subject matter while gradually saving to setup your desired system.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 7:02pm On Jul 05, 2023
Valto:
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we can also couple in a customised foreign metal box, 125A circuit breaker, Bluetooth bms as
12v 100ah
12v 200ah
12v 300ah
12v 400ah
24v 100ah
24v 200ah
24v 300ah
24v 400ah
48v 100ah
48v 200ah

whatsapp 08020574628
we can waybill to any location in Nigeria
Nice one, always put your price on your battery packs, so that those silent readers wey no dey ask questions go know say these things no too expensive as them think.

Eh be like say some dey fear to ask questions.

I will definitely buy from you when my money is complete.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 3:30pm On Jul 05, 2023
temi4fash:
I dont use PV yet...

I intend to add that later, we use NEPA/Gen for the charging right now
Has the inverter gone off due to low battery?
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 3:07pm On Jul 05, 2023
temi4fash:
200AH

is there anyway to resuscitate it?
Kindly state your solar array
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 2:38pm On Jul 05, 2023
temi4fash:
So what do i do?

What is the battery chemistry?

Do i get an external charger for it?
Manage the battery till it dies, but prepare to go for LiFePO4.

How many Amp hour is your battery?
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 1:58pm On Jul 05, 2023
temi4fash:
Hello Sirs,

I was not in the house for some days, i noticed my inverter charged my batteries up to 28.6V when still connected to NEPA.

Immediately i put it on load it dropped to 26.5 and rapidly up to 25.9V and stabilises there and do not drop rapidly again.

What can be the problem?
This is the reason people are advised to go for LiFePO4, when I read message like this, I already knew the battery chemistry.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 7:18pm On Jul 04, 2023
Olarewajub:
No, my battery does not float daily due to the cloudly weather here.

My load is pretty low. Highest consumption comes from my double door refrigerator.
You may need to add two more panels for efficient charging of your batteries.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 6:39pm On Jul 04, 2023
Olarewajub:
Panel: 4 panels (190 watt each)

Battery: 2 tubular Batteries (220ah)

MPPT Charge controller: 50A

Inverter: 24v Addo Inverter

This serves me 24 hours off the grid
Nice, do your batteries float daily?

What's your load like?
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 1:13pm On Jul 04, 2023
Olarewajub:
Thank you very much.

I got the fan for 44k, though it is 42k on Jumia.

Concerning the Solar setup, I would need to do some confirmations.

I am still new to the PV system, especially the calculations.
Okay, the first one I bought last year was 32k, bought another one with same Qasa panel between March/April this year for 42k, the 2k difference is fair.

You don't need much maths, just state the Watts of your panels, how many panels, no of batteries, charge controller amp that's all.

The essence is for prospective solar people to have ideas of what to go for.

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