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nwabobo: Oyel na curse?

otex_baba: When he inflicted machete wounds on the brother, Cameroon Tribune learnt, he was detained in waiting trial at the Buea Central Prison but the father who is today the next victim, sold his house and land and bailed him out.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201303181405.html

Redoil: PARADOX OF LIVE: super abundance of everything is detrimental to the doer. The rich should continue to kill themselve out of desperation while the poor should continue to kill themselve out of frustration.

chikk: With all due respect mr man or woman, I bid u to watch your tongue. I don't have any problem with owerri people and what rochas has done for them. If u must know, they're my people. Stop being unnecessarily fanatical. I hate politics. I don't know what brought about pdp and ohakim in my post. I never mentioned those. I don't have issues with him being impeached or not. My problem is with the people in this forum not even the topic. Imo people know what they're doing. Be it politics, game or reality, if rochas is found guilty, he'll leave. Its quite surprising that after all the 'heaven and earth' rochas is said to have done, all u can mention is tractors and pension. I'm more disappointed in U than U in me. Remember, I stand to be corrected and proven wrong. I NEED A LIST OF ROCHAS' ACCOmPLISHMENTS. I'm not taking sides with anyone, both past and present governors. I Just want the NLers here to say EXACTLY what he has done.

HAH: Gej and cohorts planning to distablize Lagos the way they did to northern Nigeria, all in an effort to divide and rule.

Boko Haram is government sponsored militants aimed gathering sympathy for the government and weakening the opposition, there next target after kano is Lagos in order to bring dis harmony in the new found love between Hausas and Yorubas

Dee60: Is anyone still agitating for 'resource control' in Niger-Delta since the amnesty? Who really does not want to be educated? Sanusi, our current CBN Governor is from an islamic background, and is even an islamic scholar, yet he has all his degrees. FG has to find a way to reach out to the down-trodden in the north, who are so prone to joining BH. Of course, they have to work with the 'educated leaders' of the north who will act as models for change. Go to Saudi, Iran, UAE and see how islamists are embracing change. Government people should stop stealing money and start to mobilise funds for mass education of all Nigerians. That is the long term solution.

Dont be deceived. If that BH boy realizes he can sit in Abuja tomorrow as a Minister, he will drop the bomb and embrace the books. The Niger-Deltans embraced the money and other opportunities given them and dropped tons and tons of bombs. It can happen in the north as well.

jentlsoul: what u don't understand is that demanding for sharia does not mean turning or forcing xtian or pagan to be a muslim but agitating for justice, fairness accountability etc. Sharia literal mean justice so what is problem with that. If allow north to practice sharia I think the like of maina of pention board, ibb and so many wicked northern leader that turn our region like this will not go free out been punish.

Bimfo: Who told u that they are not attacking them?

Dee60: Sorry, I disagree with you. In an amnesty, government dictates the terms. Tinubu is spot on, accurate. FG must ask the young boys (13 million of them or so) that are potential bombers to drop arms and embrace some government offers, like scholarships. If you drop your arms and go to school, you get full pardon, if you continue to take arms you get punished. Do you for one minute think you can use ONLY force to quash a large army of potential BH that live in the north? Dont you know hhow easy it is to convince those young uneducated almajiris to join BH and carry bombs?

Bimfo: Guess, U don't Know Anything About MUSLIM/ISLAM as a Religion... (I am a CHRISTIAN by the Way) Ave U ever Stayed wiv a Muslim from the South!? I Guess NO! They are the Most Loving People U Could Ever Meet...! They will Never Cause You any Trouble or Argue with You, Except U wanna Say Stup!!d things about their Religion...!

[color=black]But these BOKO-HARAM Sector was Caused By The Economy Instability of the Country... More than 75% of these HAUSA/FULANI in the Northern State do not ave any-where to go this Mawning or a Place of Work... While the Remaining 25% Will Treek/Walk from Badagry to Abeokuta Just To sell Goods, e.g CARROT not Worth than 500 Naira... But While Working/Walking, he sees the Children of Our Stupid/Corrupt Leaders Driving Cars Worth Millions Of Naira.. Tell me How/Y He won't Join the BOKO haram Who want to offer him 20,000 Naira 4 His Life[/color]

UNTIL, Every1 Can Eat 2 Sqaure Meals and Have A Shelther Over His/ Her Head, this Killings will not stop!!! HAVE U VISITED where A real Fulani/Hausa is Living? (I Guess NO!) They Live In MUDs and the Children Sleep in Corridors!!! SO, Y WONT THEY KILL OR Be SUICIDE BOMBERS??

ilugunboy: The point is when the govt was ready for the creek militants...they approached them with the right signals even though the militant were initially wary of govt intention but with time...they got to know the govt was sincere...so they came out in the open to be identified.

Let the present govt send a sincere signal that they want to talk...

I was one of the ardent opponent of dialogue with BH back then...but now am desperate to see an end to the needless and mindless killings going on in some parts of the North...if talking with these folks will do that ...then I will support as long as there is assurance that it will come with peace and tranquility.

Once a part of Nigeria is not at peace...no part of Nigeria is at peace. You may or may not want to agree with that...but it's my opinion.

noblezone: Where is occupy Nigeria?

lekanolas: Pastor Tunde Bakare was the vice presidential candidate of the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC) in the 2011 elections. The presiding pastor of the Latter Rain Assembly and the convener of the Save Nigeria Group (SNG) speaks on the merger of opposition parties, the Goodluck Jonathan administration, corruption and other national issues in this interview with AYODELE OJO. Excerpts:

I went through a book, Accidental Public Servant written by Nasir El-rufai which you wrote the foreword; what actually struck you in the book?

The reason why Nigeria has been in the woods up till now is what struck me; that we have so many quack doctors, trying to fix the nation’s health. They are only there for themselves; with very little regards for the rest of us. If your doctor is quack; you don’t get well.

Because of your condition, he will take advantage of your trust in him to enrich himself at the expense of your health. So, whether you get well or not is not their business as far as they make their money. Nigeria’s leaders hate the people of this nation.

Are you not surprised with the conduct of the leaders going by the revelations in the book?

It doesn’t come as a surprise because we have to figure out who they are from the beginning; many of them have been like that from independence till now, only fewer exceptions could be called statesmen or those who truly set out for service and not for self.

But how do you see the denials; those who came out to say what El Rufai wrote were fictions?

If you want to do justice, attack the issues in the book; issues were raised and such issues were being highlighted. It is a good development. The denial means nothing; anybody can deny. When you put a hardened criminal in the duck and ask him if he is guilty or not guilty, the first thing he/she will tell you is not guilty because he/she is an accused person; according to our law until the contrary is proved.

If Atiku is not guilty, he will have the opportunity now to address the issue raised not what El Rufai said before the Senate or what he didn’t say before the Senate; that is not the issue. He listed areas that proved to him that the man is corrupt; let him now bring out facts and figures on what it is not. The denial means nothing.

Former US President Bill Clinton was in the country recently, and he spoke about poverty fueling insecurity and that Nigeria lacks good leadership which was responsible for the frittering away of the nation’s resources. What is your take on this?

Clinton can fly in and fly out of Nigeria, but don’t we know these things ourselves. And do we have to wait for the opinion of Clinton to know what to do with the deep poverty in the country. He cannot diagnose the problem of Nigeria more than us and he should not cry more than the bereaved. We know the situation ourselves more than Clinton.

The South is poor, the North is poor, all the geographical zones, you find extreme poverty with exception of Abuja, because Abuja doesn’t produce but consumes everything that comes into the country. It was not Clinton that told us to go out to street, to protest when the need arose or in January 2012 when we went out to protest against government’s bad policy.

I respect Clinton as United States of America’s statesman. The truth is that the leadership of this country hates the people. That was the language of the Bible; that those who rule over you hate you.

Mrs. Oby Ezekwesili, a former Education Minister, recently accused the government of spending the reserves…

Rather the present Federal Government is planning to use ICPC to harass her, to look at her records when she was the Minister of Education. I wish them well if they will find anything against the woman; they can’t. Rather than facing the issue, they are distracting in different area to deal with side issues.

Why is that when Nigerians come out with fact and figures about how the system is been run, government always send the anti- corruption agencies after them?

They continue to do that in order to silence those that they know have skeleton in their cupboards, as I am speaking; others are speaking, why have they not sent their agencies against us? I have never had anything to do with the government of this country, not even a contract. They only do that to harass them to keep quite. And indeed, those who live in glass houses do not throw stones, but if you have nothing to fear, you face them head on.

How do you see the stealing of the pension funds and the trial of the accused?

I don’t want to get angry over all these things. It is a betrayal, because the years of labour of others rather being rewarded and compensated in their time of need after their retirement, they are now being deprived of their rights and entitlements.

In Nigeria, if you steal small you have yourself blamed, but if you steal big time, you join the league of big fish. That is what is happening in our country. There is no serious trial, but mockery and I don’t believe anything will come out of it.

What about a man accused of stealing billions of pension fund being given N750, 000 as fine?

What did they do to Mrs. Cecilia Ibru?

Her assets were saized.

And then, she has nothing to live on any more? Look, if I come to your public treasures, steal N40 billion and paid N20 billion back and you say I should go home, I will go and retire on the N20 billion balance. All of them that were sentenced for imprisonment term spent it in five-star hospitals. I say, there is no justice in this country.

Is this how it will continue?

Well, I am not sure; that depends on Nigerians, because it doesn’t look like Nigerians want to do something about it and those who are benefiting from it still want the show to continue. But there is a God who has purpose for this nation, a time is coming, when the oppressed cannot take it anymore; they will be able to stand up and say enough is enough.

At a time Nigerians are complaining about immunity clause for some public office holders, the House of Representatives is seeking immunity for its members. What do you think of this?

The immunity clause in our constitution is to enable public servants to serve without undue harassment but I remember during the election, we did say that one of the things we will look into is immunity clause.

He who comes to equity must come with clear hands. The immunity clause should be expunged from the constitution because it is allowing rogues to steal for eight years, before we have opportunity to hold them accountable, although nobody is holding anybody accountable in Nigeria anyway.

The 2015 elections are two years away. Are you contemplating participating in active politics again?

I don’t pray we continue like this till 2015. My prayer is that there should be deliverance before that time, because if we continue like this, then there will be self-



fulfilling of the prophecy of disintegration.

Are you talking about change of government or revolution?

Whatever it is, this madness must not continue.

So, you are not sure if you will participate in the 2015 elections?

With who? The collection of rogues, right, left and central?

Even with the progressives?

Who are the progressives in Nigeria; mention their names? Are you persuaded that they are progressives, progressive where, taking you where?

The progressives who formed the All Progressive Congress (APC).

If the devil becomes a pastor, Nigerians will attend his church, because they don’t know the true church and they cannot distinguish it from the synagogue of satan. Some of these governors are far richer than their states, because they are looting their states dry.

I read in the newspaper that former of Lagos State, Bola Tinubu do not own Oriental Hotel, Shoprite and others.

Who is interested in this in a decent society? Something is wrong; do they say Obafemi Awolowo owns the Cocoa House in Ibadan?

Has anybody alleged that? Do they say that his wife owns the Premier Hotel in Ibadan? The reason why you have to deny this is that your hands are not clean.

In the build up to the 2011 presidential election, there were reports that the leaders of the ACN gave a condition to back General Buhari; that you should write your resignation letter as vice president even before the election. Would you now be comfortable with the same group of people in the merger arrangement?

My dear friend, anybody can ask you to do anything they considered in their own best interest and it is left for you to see whether it is in your own interest. It is true they asked me to sign a letter resigning the post of vice presidential candidate of CPC and Vice President of Nigeria. And I prepared my own letter and I said to General Buhari and the CPC, if you don’t want me to be your candidate any more, you are free any time.

But I am not going to resign as Vice President of Nigeria, because I have not occupied that office. And they said that is what they want. I said, look this man will not bend his rule; I don’t want to join the perjurers who are no longer electable in Nigeria but want to destroy the opportunity of other people.

Sitting on the table with these people means nothing to me. I am not part of the merger committee. If the merger is being put together for the development of our nation and our people, may God let it succeed, but if is to continue this foolish, crazy, greedy aggrandizement, God will overturn it.

If merger has been put together by good people, it will deepen our democracy, at least we will develop a two-party system in Nigeria. But I don’t see the difference between the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) governors and the so-called progressive governors. You can ask question how much is the kilometers of road awarded as contract in Oyo State and who is doing the road. It is not Bayelsa where you will say there is too much water there.

Where are the progressive governors? These ones who are fruitful and everyone wants to buy his own private jet once he is out of office, how much were they worth before they came into power?

And how do they come by their massive wealth now that they are bragging all around?

I desire to see in my life time, a nation that works and I pray that God will give grace and opportunity to people who can make it work. I am not saying if a person like me is not there it won’t work. There are thousand others who are better than I am in this country, God will bring those ones into power.

Do you think Nigerians are prepared for a change?

It depends on what change we are thinking about. We can change for the worse. We are miles away. We are dancing into the lagoon and into the woods everyday. The blind is leading the seeing in Nigeria. But why will the seeing allow the blind to lead them? The moment they get there they change.

Even you now interviewing me, the moment they make you a Commissioner for Information, it is an opportunity for enjoyment. All the things you have written against me you will change. Ask Reuben Abati. Men have lost their honour because of temporary power. Must you sell your birthright because of a pot of porridge?