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THE PRIEST'S KINDNESS
I've been going 4 days without eating. The priest didn't bother to ask me if i'd eaten anything or have a place to sleep. It was on Wednesday morning that he cared to ask if i've eaten anything since i left home.Wow! what a kind priest! But u know this was after he's sure that i had N1000 to pay him 4 the "spiritual x-ray". He gave me food to eat.He started behaving friendly unlike the past 3 days. After everything he asked if i had a phone so as to communicate with him when i get home. He wished me a safe journey as i climbed downstairs & headed home. Initialy i didn't see any reason to go back with 15k to him. Everything could have ended there. But...I eventually made a 2nd journey to wind of change temple universe about a month after...COMING SOON

Blue86:
All I can say is, if all the stress you are going through is used in your privacy to call on Jesus to reveal Himself to you, and to direct you to your destiny, you would have had some feed back by now.

CORRECTION
I'm telling a story of what happened in the past but since u r in a hurry to prove that u knw everything,u can't wait till the end b4 u give ur solution. Please if u r a good christian,i challenge u to copy out the words of Proverbs 18:13 & post them here. Pls endeavor to do that as soon as possible & don't make any other comment here until u do what i ask of u.

The man rounded up after instructing me never to join witchcraft or cult,neither should i attempt to set up a traditional altar to gods of my ancestors, "u will die if u try these", he warned. He told me to come back with some water taken frm a river in my village with specific instruction on how to go abt taking the water. I pointed out to him that there's no river in my village but he insisted that there's one.
"okay, u may take the water from a river in the next village after urs", he finally said.
Another area of disagreement was when he said i should take a bottle of hot drink to the eldest person in my father's family so that he could pray 4 me. "my dad is the oldest man in the family", i replied.
"No he isn't, there's another man older than him" he insisted. Since he is a spiritualist i didnt want to disagree with him anymore,maybe he knew my family & village more than me. There were many things he said which I won't like to write them here...STORY CONTINUES

chieveboy:
His name was Zadok. Not the one mentioned in the Bible though.

Jesus indeed existed with a legit mission to save the Jews. Jesus did had a brief contact with the group whom Zadok teaches. Jesus though was inclined to flow a different path- that as, a different mystic path/group. Jesus prominently went with the Essenes.

When Jesus preached the kingdom of heaven,did he mean the same thing as "atma lok" in ur chart?
Is God's realization the same thing as the budhists enlightenment (Nirvana)?

Anyway,there's something else I'd love to knw.Who was the living eck master during the time of Jesus the Nazarene (if u believe he existed)? Did Jesus & his disciples knw abt or have contact with any of the eck masters?
@chieveboy

..."go down on ur knees & confess ur sins,make sure u 4give everyone you have in ur heart so that ur file may open", the priest odered & i obeyed. Thereafter,he told me to use that N1000 to clean my face 3 times & drop it inside a plate on top of the alter,i obeyed. He continued his incantation-like-prayers. But i didn't see any father arriving in the room. I only came to realize later that what he called "spiritual x-ray" was nothing more than what christian prophets call "counseling". The man went on telling me his visions as revealed to him.Finally he told me to come back with 15k so that he'd show me how to make an alter.According to him, i was destined to be a priest serving in an alter. What a disappointment! The spiritual x-ray was just another name 4 counseling...MORE IS COMING SOON

chieveboy:
Never. You become Godlike, but not God

I believe by now you know when we mention "God", we are not talking about the Jehovas and Elohims. Supreme Deity.

I'm not friendly with the concept of Jehovah and Elohim,it has many loopholes. That aside, I'm just trying very hard to comprehend ur explanation of sugmad.

chieveboy:
SUGMAD is the term for the Supreme Deity. You can't name IT, you can't describe IT neither can you know or experience IT all.

The Idea of spelling it in capital letters and using "IT" is to observe the qualities above. Describe or give it a quality, name or identity and you have created a god of it which is wrong and right at the same time.

It is neither female nor male. It is the supreme ruler of all and who has no entity or entities trying to overthrow IT or annoy IT as in the case of God Vs Satan in the religions.

Talking about the Supreme Deity, no one is ever wrong or right as to what IT is.

Does a person who "realize God"(in eckankar) become the same with/as Sugmad?

Coly2012:
I didn't spend 1/2 seconds in given two straight FALSE.

96%

Blue86:
Only Jesus can save.

please,please & please,this thread was meant to say something abt eckankar.There are thousands of christian threads where u can display ur evangelism skill,so kindly go there. Just don't try that here again except u r looking for my trouble!

What,then, is sugmad? Is he/she/it an Almighty being & the creator of all things? Or is he/she/it the same as mahanta?
Is sugmad an intelligent being?
I once heard an eckist say that God is unexplainable & nameless,was he right? what,then,do eckists mean when they say that"HU" is the name of God?

What a lost for chemists shops full of Arthemeter & Ciprofloaxin! Are they going to throw them away?

Imagine that you are asked to answer TRUE or FALSE in the following question:
(1)Buhari is a good leader,he's done well in Nigeria,God bless him!
(2) APC will win again in 2023.
(Pls dont spend more than 2 seconds in each question)

Why do people pretend to love so much when someone wants to end his/her life? But if the person needed help,no friend could have cared.They would say life is mind ur own business.

In that case,does the living eck master know the name of each member of eckankar? Is he aware everytime a person sees him in dream? Do all conscious being (including animals,plants,rocks,water,air) know & recognize him as the living eck master? Does he know the thoughts of every human's heart?

My only comment is that suicide isn't a crime,so don't use the term "commit" suicide.

SPIRITUAL X-RAY
It was on my 4th day of going 2 d temple that i finally succeeded in getting N1000 2 pay him & the spiritual x-ray was due. He dressed in white & call me to come to the next room there was another alter in the room & 3 chairs in front. He took his seat & i took mine. He started by ringing the bell & said the lord's prayer.He took a bottle of oil from the alter,he used his right thumb to take the oil to my forehead,pressed it & make a sign of the cross.He did the same in my both palms & started praying. He started with the BCS pattern but he never mentioned Olumba.I didn't understand if he was praying or doing incantation. He said things like:
"arrive! arrive! father! Arrive from the four corners of the wall, arrive! arrive! From the crust of holy conquerors,arrive! Do no harm,do not destroy. My code is OOO (he said some numbers) hindu paraside,india. Arrive father..."
I was expecting whatever he was calling to appear in the room...MORE STORIES LATER

...When i got to prayer line i was wet & cool.I looked for one hungry man & dashed him the garri that the old woman gave me. As soon as he spoted the content of the bag he went on his knees & gave thanks to Olumba! What! So this man believed that the garri was given to him by Olumba. That night i slept with the wet clothes but i didnt mind.By the time i woke in the morning i was dry & started my journey to wind of change temple.I went inside,sat in one of the chairs & waited 4 the priest. After a long time he came out from his inner room...

A LITTLE GIRL GOT LOST
I had to go back to BCS prayer line to spent the night because there was nowhere else.There was another round of heavy rain that delayed me on the way.It was dark when the rain subsided & i resumed my journey. I had to ask 4 direction to prayer line & that was when i met a little girl who couldnt knw her way back home.She was hawking meat since afternoon & didn't knw where she was. The person i asked 4 direction 2 prayer line also asked me to go with the little girl & help her get home. I was a stranger in Calabar & didn't knw the street that the little girl said she came frm. I had to ask people to help us get there. The girl said she's from Akpabuyo,but her mother's frnd brought her to Calabar as a househelp,but eventually sent her to go & hawk in the street. Finally i was able to take the girl to her house.I was soaked by the rain & was wet when i made my way back to prayer line.

Just to be sure if I got ur explanation,did u mean that everything (including dead leaves lying on the ground,water,broken bottles) is a state of consciousness. Did u also mean that the things i listed above are aware (conscious) of their existence & knw where they are? Does that imply that both living & non living things are all souls manifesting in different forms? If that's not what u meant by consciouness,pls, make it a bit clearer & easy to understand.

@chieveboy
Pls help to clarify these;
Who/what exactly is the mahanta? Does mahanta refer to a person (Sri Harold Klemp)? Does mahanta mean the Holy Spirit? If yes,then is the person of Klemp a holy spirit? Are all eck masters mahanta(s)? What do eckists mean when they say "mahanta consciousness"? Is mahanta a state of consciousness? Can any other person (apart frm Klemp) take the title of mahanta?

...I asked one of the women abt the deaf boy father,the woman happened 2 be his grandma & said the boy's father lives very far away frm there.She invited me inside to tell her what brougt me there.I told her the whole thing.She sympathized with me & informed me that Olumba,his wife & daughter have passed away since.Moreover,she told me to forget abt that priest, that most of the spiritualists in Calabar are 419,some would initiate u into witchcraft. She recomended a place (prayer city) 4 me,which she said I could go & stay there till i'm able to return home.She gave me N100 to pay bike to the place,she gave me some cups of garri too. For the 1st time in my journey,i met someone who cared...

...The 2 deaf boys finally made it to a small mud house & i followed suit. They both went inside while I waited outside. There were 2 old women inside the house.One was far older than the other.When the rain subsided, I...

TWO DEAF AND DUMB BOYS
I left the the temple after pleading with the priest to conduct the spiritual X-ray,which he plainly refused except I pay N1k. So i went out to wait at the roadside 4 a saviour. After a long time I saw 2 boys communicating in sign language.Once i signal them they approached me.One of them asked why i was sitting at the roadside. After the conversation (I could communicate in American sign language) i followed the 2 deafs because the other one said his father could help me out.While on our way to his house a heavy rain poured down & we ran as fast as we could to get there b4 we're wet.

...As the priest continued to exercise his fortune telling ability,I listened with awe. Finally,he said what i needed wasn't baptism & feast but spiritual X-ray. I'd never heard anything like spiritual X-ray until then,so I was curious to know what it is. He said the spiritual X-ray will cost N1000 only. I told him I had no money & he said he can't help. At some point I heard him use words like "self realization,mahanta,God's realization,soul travel". I knew without doubt that he was an eckist. When i revealed to him that i've mingled with eckist b4,he asked me if I made any effort 2 become a registered member,I told him the whole thing & there was nothing he could do abt it apart frm Spiritual X-ray. Everything could have ended there,but I was so curious to knw how a spiritual X-ray looks/feel like...MORE STORIES LATER

...when he opened the door,he asked me who i was. Then he went inside 4 sometimes. When he returned,he had a book in his hand.He sat in one of the chairs & ask me to come closer. "You are here to inquire of ur destiny",he began, "u've tried & tried but couldn't succeed because...", he went on & on with occasional demonstration like any fortune teller would do when dealing with his client. When he finished speaking he ask me: "now tell me,why are u here"?
All the while i thought he knew everything,but now he was asking me to tell him why i come to his temple. Well, i told him abt my journey.
"Oh u came to see Rowland,there's no father in that place! The only one there is Rowland & what can he do 4 u? Even if they'd allow u to see him he can't do anything for u. He doesn't knw anything. Or u want him to employ u as a cleaner or security?"

chieveboy:
Yes, but the people who combined John's work with the remaining works that made up the Bible removed some of the content because it sounded too unbelievable and crazy to them.

Well, it might be but i stoped taking the bible serious eversince i saw how unfit it is in our era.

...The 1st thing i noticed was the alter which was just like the BCS,with a pillow,towel & an opened bible. Above the alter where there should be OOO Picture were the words of John 17:17. There were white plastic chairs just like a church. But there was nobody in the room. Then i noticed the words "Satsang be the hu" pasted in the wall. This room was supposed to be a sitting room,there were three doors to other rooms. One of them was open but i couldnt see what was inside. I sat at one of the chairs at the back.I was just contemplating the mixture of this two religion OOO/Eckankar. I decided to wait & relax until whenever somebody will come out. Sometimes i slept off a little in the chair because i was very tired. I waited for a long time but nobody came out. After I've waited close to 2 hours I heard footsteps from within approaching the door,then the knub turned,the door opened,a man emerged...MORE STORIES COMING

chieveboy:
If you meet Rebazar Tarz or any of the other Eck Masters, you are not going to say they are Jesus or Mohammed because they do not look anything like Jesus.

Gopal Das particularly looks like Jesus, that's why people who meet him before knowing who he was assume it's Jesus due to the white man's depiction of Jesus in circulation today.

Also note that millions have met the Eck Masters physically, in dreams or near-death experiences but do not know they are actually Eck Masters or wherever Eckists refer them to. For instance, Fubbi Quantz dictated to John the book of revelations which is today a part of the Christian Bible.

did u mean the book of revelation exactly as it is in the christian Bible?

MrBrownJay1:
dude posted this BS on Twitter and got more than 200 replies from people ready and willing, yet he now comes to NL with this BS. its obvious its a scam. even if it was 20k, there will still be 1000 people ready and willing to give sperm.

the guy is lonely & just need people to crack jokes with.