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MaxInDHouse:
You are no better than the man.



Did the man you accused above truly stole your money?

Mr Maximus,
Why naw?
The thread is about how one certain self acclaimed prophet would have tied a demon to the poles of his mosque but changed his mind.

Do JW believe that Demons are real and physical beings like Mohammed?

FxMasterz:
Hehehe,

Antichristian, alias Abutwins, how many demons una don tie for pole? Please I'm just being curious. I want to know.

Like prophet like his slaves.

They both can tell lies eh!

The invisible chain of Mohammed can only be seen by him as it is made from the sweat of fish from zamzam water. Even me don tie 21 demons to poles of the mosque beside my house...only that only we the prophets can see them.

A man mesmerised his gullible fellow arabs that a Demon (Afrit) came to the mosque to disturb his prayers AND he would have tied the demon to one of the poles of the mosque for all Muslims to see, except that everything was AUDIO.

As you know, Muslims do not ask Questions. They swallow every lie hook, line and sinker

The Question is:
Are Demons Physical Beings?
What kind of ropes can be used to tie up demons to a tree?


Sahih al-Bukhari 461
Narrated Abu Huraira:
"The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Last night a big demon (afreet) from the Jinns came to me and wanted to interrupt my prayers (or said something similar) but Allah enabled me to overpower him. I wanted to fasten him to one of the pillars of the mosque so that all of you could See him in the morning but I remembered the statement of my brother Solomon (as stated in Quran): My Lord! Forgive me and bestow on me a kingdom such as shall not belong to anybody after me (38.35)." The sub narrator Rauh said, "He (the demon) was dismissed humiliated."

All Mohammed's miracles do not have any evidence. only he is the evidence




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A muslim lied a few days ago that these differences are Calligraphic differences; like their father satan, they tell lies as their first nature

A muslim lied a few days ago that these differences are Calligraphic differences; like their father satan, they tell lies as their first nature

Still more Differences between the Warsh Quran and the Hafs Quran

AntiChristian:
What's the context of the verse?

Are you denying that your God said:
And our God and your God is one

Are you admitting that this was a cheap lie!

AntiChristian:
This are all lies! At least we can confirm your God got the 32 virgins in Numbers 31:40.

Even though I know you don't respect your Allah and you are willing to tell lies to defend Islam,
Swear by Allah that you have NEVER read this from Islamic sources

AntiChristian:
No wonder you are all sons of God!

It is a privilege to be adopted as Sons of God AND no slave can understand why we play and have fun with our Father in heaven.
Your own God is a slave master: we can understand why you are treated as slaves.

AntiChristian:
The truth is that whenever you go to war you must keep a share of virgin booty for God! Numbers 31:40.
Even other items too!

Meaning that if this is TRUE, Allah is a LIAR!

AntiChristian:
I can see o! Can we compare him with Moses giving your God 32 virgins in Numbers 31:1-40?

Is this a proof that Allah spoke falsehood here
Quran 29:46
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."

AntiChristian:
Sex is great with wives! You get rewards for it just as you get sins for fornicating! Do you pray God remove sex from your life?

Muslims with pretense: always thinking that we don't know
1. Is it UNTRUE that among these privileges is, If the eyes of Mohammed fall on any married Muslim woman, the husband must divorce her for Mohammed's lust
2. Is it UNTRUE that among these privileges is, If Mohammed is allowed to have sex with any Muslim woman without paying dowry

If this is not the lust of a cult leader, what is it?

AntiChristian:
The total number of virgin war booty shared in Numbers 31 was 32,000!

Your God got 32 virgins!

It's not about sex!

Is this the truth?


Do you concur that , if this is TRUE then Allah is a LIAR? Quran 29:46

Encyclopedia1:
Pls try to stop tagging me with all those stuff u post. It’s annoying. Thank you.

Of course the Truth is annoying to those who despise it.

For your information:
Only the TRUTH set free when it is adopted!

AntiChristian:
Incorrigible abusive Christian just like the Biblical Jesus!

Abuse you!!?
How!?

AntiChristian:
Which Kingdom? Person wey no fit stop himself from death go get kingdom?

It is understandable that Allah is a physical being just like the Islamic heaven.
Muslims will tell lies just to defend Islam: was Jesus speaking of this earthly kingdom?

John 18:36:
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."

AntiChristian:
This is punctuation effect!

1. "Truly, I tell you: today, you will be with me in paradise."
- Emphasizes the certainty of the statement being made and the immediate timeframe of "today" for being in paradise.

2. "Truly, I tell you today: you will be with me in paradise."
- Highlights that the message being conveyed is true and relevant for the current day, with a focus on the future event of being in paradise.

3. "Truly, I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise."
- Directly informs the listener that the speaker is sharing a truthful message on the same day about the future event of being together in paradise.

4. "Truly, I tell you: today you will be with me in paradise."
- Places emphasis on the immediacy of the day ("today" for the listener to be in paradise, affirming the certainty of the statement.

5. "Truly, I tell you today: you will be with me in paradise."
- Indicates that the speaker is sharing a true message on the current day regarding the future event of being together in paradise.

6. "Truly, I tell you today you will be with me in paradise."
- Conveys a straightforward message without additional punctuation marks, stating that the listener will be in paradise with the speaker on the same day as the message is being delivered.

But Jesus didn't go to Paradise that day but hell!

Let's assume it was a punctuation factor as you have copied from the JW doctrine (I hope you wouldn't mind if I use the Ahmadiyya doctrine for you)

Can any man guarantee a place in paradise for another person?

AntiChristian:
Anyways our God no dey die sha!

Here I agree with you:
Allah cannot die without ceasing to exist !

But the God who created Death can experience His creation without ceasing to exist and without ceasing to be the Almighty.
Too bad for you as this shows how limited Allah is in power.


You know that I had previously scattered your Taoheed to show that Allah is not Omnipresent, nor Omnipotent nor Omniscient. It makes Allah at best like Iblis in everything. This is another evidence!

So much that just as any normal man on earth Allah cannot have a child UNLESS he has a girlfriend. But we know that the True God doesn't need such a requirement: Is it untrue that Mary gave birth to a child without a man.

Too bad for you!

madridguy:
From the video I don't see where he was booed. If you have another video please post it.

Nevertheless, Tinubu is surrounded by people deceiving him. How can you tell us to be calm when an egg is now 200-220 naira? 10kg of semo is now 16000-18000, 3,000 naira of PHCN under Ikeja electricity under the self acclaimed Band A will only give you just 9 units/ Kw.

Petrol is now 700-800 naira will long queues.

Anyone that want to protest in his/her state of origin should be permitted to protest.

He was seriously booed by the audience. I was there

Muslim scholars are in the same league with Satan when it comes to fabrication of lies

Expanse2020:
Stop arguing because they wrote one letter big and another small does that mean a different letter go and learn Arabic and come back to debate with us...
You that can Identify a single letter want to be arguing with those that know it...
Abegii
There different way you can write a letter with more than a thousand way in calligraphy..does that meant it is different. you don't know the meaning of different I will give you an example from your book

Jesus tell his disciples to carry a staff in Mark 6:8, but in Matthew 10:10 and Luke 9:3 he told them not to carry a staff?
That what interpretation mean

You are surely the one who needs to go back to Quranic school to learn Arabic as you seem not to know that where you place your DOTS and the number of DOT changes the Arabic alphabet and thus are important in writings.

I will oblige you with a few examples again so that you can show conclusively that the verses in the Hafs Qur'an and that of the Warsh Qur'an are identical.

Muslims LIES from their fundamental nature like satan. Check, the style of calligraphy of both Warsh and Hafs is the same sir

If your scholars tell blatant lies, must you partake in it?

SIRTee15:
So Qur'an recitation is no longer letter for letter, word for word anymore.

Muslim scholars are in the same league with Satan when it comes to fabrication of lies

It is even easy to show that differences in these Qurans are not all due to scribal errors within the Quran by removing the vowels.
You will still arrive at different Qur'ans

I pity the fraudulent liars called the Muslim scholars

It is even too easy to show differences not due to scribal errors within the Qur'ans by removing the vowels. You will still arrive at different Qur'ans


I pity these fraudulent liars known as Muslim scholars!

Expanse2020:
Go to islamic school for to understand what they wrote don't just assumed because the written calligraphy is different
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 There is nothing different in that statement....

Only a blind bat will not see the differences between the Warsh Qur'an and the Hafs Qur'an as presented.

What an argument!?
Difference in calligraphy should retain exactly the same meanings and words in sentences isn't it?

Even your modern scholars attest to these differences between the Warsh and the Hafs Qur'an and other Qur'ans in existence.

You desperately want to hold on to falsehood: I understand. How can the religion of Allah be full of holes!?
LOL!

My questions are simple:
1. Didn't you Muslims claim that the Qur'an is perfectly preserved up to the diacritical marks?
2. Which of your several Qur'ans is the copy of the Qur'an of Allah in paradise?
3. We have shown you that the Qur'an of Mohammed is different from the Qur'an of Abubaker and is different from the Qur'an of Uthman: which one is the true Qur'an of them all?
4. How come the Sanaa Quran is different from the standard Qurans in many verses?
5. Why did Muslim scholars tell white lies on the preservation of the Quran?

So, how can this thing called the Qur'an can be trusted?

Qasim6:
Lol

You are only making a fool of yourself, you are not exposing anything.

it is in our source (Hadith) that there are different readings of the Qur'an going straight back to the prophet.


You should drink water and rest!

What is supposed to be according to your prophet is that Allah revealed the Qur'an in 7 DIALECTS not seven Qur'ans?


Is there one Qur'an or seven Qur'ans?


All I am doing is to show you that your Scholars are big fat LIARS!



Which one of these numerous Quran is the Qur'an in the tablet in Heaven?


Just choose to be humble and ask how many other lies you have believed

Expanse2020:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mumu man where is the difference abeg show
Us 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Islamically speaking, are these two statements the same (check the second half of the Qur'an verse)?

They seek to deceive not except themselves= They deceive not except themselves


The first: they are looking or finding a way with which to deceive themselves
The second: They deceived themselves

In case you still haven't seen it

Hafs: they have already Deceived themselves
Warsh: they are looking for a way to deceive themselves


Are these two the same?

What was Allah really saying out of the two statements?

Only in Islam is a Qur'an which is supposed to be the word of God get abrogated as soon as it was dictated.

What kind of an erroneous error filled God of Islam is this!

Only in Islam is a Qur'an which is supposed to be the word of God get abrogated as soon as it was dictated.

What kind of an erroneous error filled God of Islam is this!

You will from this thread conclude that Islamic scholars have told lies all along that the Qur'an was perfectly preserved even up to the diacritical marks

More still coming

You will from this thread conclude that Islamic scholars have told lies all along that the Qur'an was perfectly preserved even up to the diacritical marks

Encyclopedia1:
He must chop beating

Hello,
This is TenQ. Please check your email sir

AntiChristian:
In perhaps what is one of the most perplexing passages of the New Testament, we find a story during the alleged crucifixion of Jesus the Christ that challenges the very core of commonly held Christian beliefs about Christ and salvation.

We read from Luke 23:39-43 (NIV) the following:


The Wahala

If we were to ask a confessional Christian today (one that knows of and adheres to the doctrinal confessions of the faith) what one needed to believe in for salvation, we would perhaps have a very long list. It would likely include belief that Jesus died for the sins of all, that Jesus was God, that Jesus was both man and God (belief in the hypostatic union), belief that the New Testament is the word of God, belief in the Godhead, in the Personhood of each member of the Godhead who were all co-equal and co-substantial to each other.

Yet the 5 verses from the Gospel eventually attributed to Luke present a severe theological problem that strikes at the very core of Christian theology. The question before us is, what did the thief say, believe and do to be granted salvation? When we examine the verses we can identify only two things:

1. That Jesus was an innocent man.

2. That Jesus was a King (or would become one at some point).

All the thief had to do to be granted salvation was to accept that Jesus was innocent and thus did not deserve to be crucified, and that Jesus would survive in some form such that he would become a king or have a kingdom. By this standard, all Muslims will be granted entry into the kingdom of God. The thief did not have to believe in the New Testament, did not have to accept the Old Testament, did not have to express belief in the Trinity, did not have to believe in the Godhead, did not have to believe in the two natures of Christ, did not have to even accept Jesus as the Messiah! He did not have to believe Jesus was the incarnate word of God, he did not have to believe that Jesus was the 2nd person in the Godhead…in other words, the thief did not have to believe in anything that Christians today hold to be true.

There is perhaps an even greater issue here. The thief claims that Jesus was innocent and thus did not deserve to be punished. See, Christians necessarily believe that while Jesus was innocent, he deserved to suffer and be punished, because he came to suffer for our sins as an act of grace:

“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” – John 3:16 (NIV).

“And he said, “The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.” – Luke 9:22 (NIV).

According to the above passages, Christ must suffer and must be killed. However, the thief on the cross, seemingly disagrees with these teachings. The thief explicitly says that not only is Jesus innocent, but that he did not deserve to die. In other words, the thief is expressing an Islamic position that Muslims would agree with. Jesus did not deserve to die, he did not deserve to suffer and he was an innocent man. In other words, Jesus rewards a thief and claims the thief would be in the Kingdom of God with him because he denied the core tenets of Christianity while affirming core beliefs of Islam.

The thief in no uncertain words explains that his crucifixion on the cross is justified, but Jesus’s isn’t, however, confessional Christians would argue that in order for sin to be paid, it had to be justified through the death of Jesus the Christ. This presents a problem for Christianity. Jesus rewards a man and accepts him into the Kingdom of God for expressively, clearly and absolutely, rejecting core Christian beliefs about salvation!

Comments by Scholars
These 5 verses deliver a devastating blow to the consistency of the doctrine of salvation in Christianity. These verses essentially approve of Islamic beliefs and indicate that Muslims according to Jesus…would be in the Kingdom of God, since we believe that he was innocent and that the alleged crucifixion was not justified in any way. These are things a Christian today cannot deny, these are things a Christian today has to believe in, yet a thief with Islamic beliefs only accepted two tenets, both of which agree with core Islamic beliefs, and was rewarded and praised by Jesus! The scholars have had difficulty in understanding these passages. It must first be noted that only one Gospel records this incident and this is the Gospel of Luke:



The other three Gospels are noticeably silent on the thieves, except for the case of demonizing them:

“In the same way the rebels who were crucified with him also heaped insults on him.” – Matthew 27:44 (NIV).

“Those crucified with him also heaped insults on him.” – Mark 15:32 (NIV).

The final Gospel, later attributed to John (which John, we don’t know), does not mention any of the words of the thieves, it does not even identify them as thieves or rebels. Instead, this is all the Gospel as to say:

“The soldiers therefore came and broke the legs of the first man who had been crucified with Jesus, and then those of the other.” – John 19:32 (NIV).

Resolving the Wahala
Some Christian commentators (exegetes) have attempted to navigate around this narrative disaster by implying that the thief/ rebel had other beliefs, that he believed Jesus was a God or that Jesus was meant to die for his sins and thus was saved because of this. The problem with such an argument is that the only Gospel to mention this incident does not indicate any of these things. The Gospel does not indicate that the thief/ rebel believed in anything other than what was recorded. In other words, this is a poor attempt at reading between the lines and should therefore be rejected. If scripture is sufficient for understanding salvation, then the plain reading of these 5 passages should be accepted without having a need to insert anything into scripture, to force it to say something it does not.

Conclusion
These five passages are a disaster for any Christian who takes their faith seriously. Every core tenet that one needs to believe in to be considered a confessional Christian is necessarily discarded by the thief and approved of by Jesus himself. In fact, the very beliefs that Jesus was an innocent man and did not deserve to die, that his death is unjustifiable is an Islamic belief. Thus, there are two arguments to be claimed here:

1. According to Jesus, all one has to do to be granted entry into the Kingdom of God is to accept that Jesus is innocent and that his death was unjustified (which affirms Islam’s beliefs about Jesus). Therefore the beliefs of most Christians have been deemed unnecessary and useless by Jesus himself.

2. That belief in Jesus dying for the sins of the world is unjustified and that Jesus affirms this, thereby establishing that him dying does not acquit us of our sins (essentially refuting core Christian beliefs about the purpose behind Jesus’s death in the first place).

May God guide our Christian brothers and sisters to the truth of Jesus the Christ, which is to the Oneness of God.

and Allah knows best.

Here is a Lost Deceived Soul and Slave of Mohammed and Allah doing everything to show that Allah made a mistake in the Qur'an by calling the same scripture he rejects as the Remembrance and that our scripture is Confirmed.


Can this slave of the flesh explain why one of the Thieves said to a fellow dying man on the cross

Luke 23:42
42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”


If your brain has not been enslaved by Mohammed and his servant Allah, how come Jesus guaranteed him a space in paradise


Luke 23:42
43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”


If Jesus truly guaranteed a man space in paradise, you are in Trouble as the Best Deceiver, the Al-Makr has deceived you.



All these to distract from the fact that your lies about the Qur'an is made public.

Greenholics:
16 PRIVILEGES ONLY GIVEN TO MOHAMMAD, THE FOUNDER OF ISLAM

You be the judge is this man I of God!

One of Islam’s premiere Muslim commentators, al-Qurtubi, enumerates the privileges Allah gave M0hammad. The following is taken from the Commentary of al-Qurtubi on Surah 33:50.

As for what was granted and made lawful (by Allah) to the prophet –pbuh– they are 16 issues:-

1. To be fair with the spoils (booty from raids).

2. To (forcefully) take a fifth of all the spoils (booty from raids).

3. "Al Wisal" (which means continuing the fast through the night to the next night, without eating.)

4. To take more than four women.

5. To have intercourse “Yastankih" with a woman who verbally pronounces her dedication (to the prophet).

6. To marry, without the presence (or permission) of a legal guardian.

7. To marry, without a dowry.

8. To marry (and have intercourse) during a state of ritual consecration and purification.

9. The annulment of an oath he may make to his wives.

10. If Muhammad looks at a woman (and desires her) THEN IT IS NECESSARY FOR HER HUSBAND TO DIVORCE HER AND FOR MUHAMMAD TO MARRY HER.
Ibn Al A’raby said, "This is what the servant of the two holy mosques has also said, as was clear to the scholars FROM THE STORY OF ZAID which also had this meaning."

11. That the prophet released Safiyyah (from her captured status) and he considered her release as her dowry.

12. To enter Mecca without being in a state of ritual purification.

13. To fight in Mecca.

14. That he is not inherited by anyone at all. This was mentioned in the oath of absolution for when a man approaches death due to illness, most of his possessions are taken away, so that he does not have more than a third left for him. But the possessions of the prophet remained for him, as is evidenced in the verse of inheritance and in Surat Mariam.

15. His marriage is still considered effective after his death.

16. If he divorces a woman she remains prohibited to everyone and may not be married, "Nikah,"(intercourse) to someone else.


Bonus

Surah 33. Al-Ahzab, 50. “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war, and the daughters of thine uncle on the father's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the father's side, and the daughters of thine uncles on the mother's side emigrated with thee, and a believing woman if she give herself unto the Prophet and the Prophet desire to ask her in marriage, A PRIVILEGE FOR THEE ONLY, not for the (rest of) believers. We are aware of that which we enjoined upon them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess that thou mayst be free from blame, for Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.”

And any believing woman who dedicates herself to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed (Nikah) her; this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large).

Antichristian
Come and see your prophet and his God.

Apart from the fact that 90% of these privileges are about sex


Number 2: Mohammed takes 20% of the best of the booties from war (which he personally stopped going himself since he lost his front teeth)

For you to see the greediness of Mohammed:
He takes 10,000 men to battle.
Let's say the bookies worth was N1,000,000

Mohammed will take N200,000 for himself
The remaining 9,999 soldiers will share N800,000.

On the average, the remaining soldiers:if they share the remaining booties equally will get N80.0080008

The so called best example for the believers who cannot forfeit his share that those who shed their blood will have something more.

Only the TRUTH sets free when you choose it over LIES


WHy do Islamic Scholars tell so much blatant lies to defend Islam?