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DeepSight:
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Much of what the fellow said is sadly true about the absurdity of Xristianity and it is this response of yours which rather appears escapist.

Birds of the same feathers!

Fenrir:
The real test for delusion.......

The more you actually think about Christianity, the more ridiculous it becomes.
God “loves” you, but if you don’t love him back in the exact correct way, he burns you in hell forever. Out of love, obviously.
He creates you with sin already built in, even though he hates sin.
So he puts the thing he hates inside you, then blames you for having it.
But remember, he loves you. He just hates what he deliberately put in you.
Then comes the solution.
He creates a son who is also himself, with a pre planned mission to be killed, by rules he made, to forgive humans for breaking rules he knew they would break.
He sacrifices himself to himself.
Then undoes the sacrifice three days later.
Which somehow still counts as the ultimate sacrifice.
Except it wasn’t even three days.
Friday evening to Sunday morning isn’t three days, but don’t question it. Smile, nod, amen.
Sin still exists. Suffering still exists.
But you’re told this fixed everything.
And after all of that, if you still don’t understand it properly, don’t accept it correctly, or don’t love him the right way
eternal fire.
But don’t forget
he always loves you.
The real message is simple
don’t think for yourself.
And the irony
the Serpent didn’t force anything.
Didn’t threaten. Didn’t promise. Didn’t lie.
He asked one question.
“Do you want to know?”
That was the real crime.

When your entire understanding of Christianity is based on ignorance!
SMH!

It is easy to defeat a Strawman!

Fenrir:
Funny how you accuse people of not reading something then they take apart the entire religious argument "false scientific claims" and you go quiet, i smell hypocrisy aka bullshit.

You this wannabe atheist:

There are at least 10 points raised AND
All you needed to do was to quote one of the scientific errors I stated, show why it is an error and you would have corrected a religious fanatic.

MaxInDHouse:
You started by saying your Jesus is XYZ but can't stick to what the Bible Jesus teaches in thoughts, words and actions!😀

I would like to know the XYZ that I said about Jesus that is not according to the bible.

It is easy to tell such lie on a Faceless platform like this

MaxInDHouse:
Highlighted is what Pharisees were saying against our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus {Luke 7:34} but he said such ones needs to be attended to! Matthew 9:12

Please is your own Jesus a real person or an imaginary character?

Because you are not quoting the Bible Jesus but creating another one that isn't found in the Bible!😀

This has nothing to do my my last post to you.

As reference, check below

TenQ:
Should this kind of sin be mentioned as normal in the church?



1. Can anyone see God?
2. Can God be in Heaven and on Earth concurrently?
3. Who was speaking in Heb1:8 to the Son?

MaxInDHouse:
The sin reported @ 1Corinthans 5:1 was committed by a Christian or pagan?

After he was punished {1Corinthans 5:11-13} did they welcome him back into the fold as a repentant sinner? 2Corinthians 2:5-11

This is why i keep referring to your Jesus as "IT" because there is no Jesus of your kind in the Bible. The real Jesus said he came to call sinners not the righteous {Matthew 9:13} so there is no way we will not have them in our midst but after we have shunned the wrongdoer for being unrepentant {Matthew 18:15-17} we must console him if he later shows a repentant attitude.

What Paul is saying there is clear we are to scold wrongdoers in our midst not kill them o!😂

Should this kind of sin be mentioned as normal in the church?



1. Can anyone see God?
2. Can God be in Heaven and on Earth concurrently?
3. Who was speaking in Heb1:8 to the Son?

MaxInDHouse:
Did Jesus say there won't be any sinner among his disciples?

YES or NO?🙂

Are you trying to justify ur P*****p fphil lick tendencies?

There some sins even unbelievers scarcely commit: it is a shame when anyone affiliated with Jesus is found in them

1Cor 5:1:
"It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife."

MaxInDHouse:
Did Jesus say there won't be sinners among his sheep?

Go, then, and learn what this means: ‘I want mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came to call, not righteous people, but sinners.” Matthew 9:13

I know that is why you refused to come up with the name of any known group but Jesus never condemn anyone due to sin rather what he condemned and told us to shun is UNREPENTANT wrongdoer! Matthew 18:15-17

So can you confidently mention the name of your church now🙂

It's okay that Jesus couldn't install the fruit of the Holy Spirit in you. It's no wonder that we see the counterfeit fruit which is the works of the flesh

Gal 5:19-21:
"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, jealousies, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Contentions, murders, drunkenness, revelings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."


Do you want us to continue flogging this or you choose to focus on topics and issues avoided ?



Help Bookmark and Truthseeker10 by answering the questions

1. Can anyone see God?
2. Can God be in Heaven and on Earth concurrently?
3. Who was speaking in Heb1:8 to the Son?

MaxInDHouse:
LOVE covers a multitude of sin {1Peter 4:8} after a public reproof a sinner is to be helped {2Corinthians 2:5-8} if he shows a repentant attitude so it's LOVE as Jesus commanded us that's working. John 13:34-35
Meanwhile there is no single religion out there that's free from such accusations.

What else do you have to say?🙂

Haaa!
Paedophilic lust covers a multitude of sin!?

MaxInDHouse:
This is what my own Jesus said about his proof of existence in the midst of his disciples:

I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another.  By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves. John 13:34-35

So our own Jesus is not our God rather he is our brother:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to MY BROTHERS and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God." John 20:17

Our own Jesus is one of our brothers as in worshiper of our Father and God who is LOVE {1John 4:8} that's why he could confidently say if we are truly his friends LOVE will bind us together as one happy global family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4

Of course everyone is talking about the LOVE that exists among Jehovah's Witnesses in fact when anyone loses his or her membership as one of us they are forever worried because instead of going out there to join thousands of other religions they keep complaining as they can never ever find a better replacement for the true believers in Christ!🙂

The evidence that abound in your organisation is well known and unbecoming for anyone who claims to be remotely connected to Christ.
Do you want me to give you evidences of countless P.E.D.O. lust existing within your esteemed members?

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣Baba simply answer the question na.
So the "God" in Hebrews 1:8 did not mean "Almighty God"?

Apologize for telling lies!
Don't you have shame?


Have a nice day!

MaxInDHouse:
So apart from audio achievements like all other religions do claim what can we see as evidence of your Jesus in the midst of its worshipers?

Note that all types of religions also make claims that's not visible please mention one thing that everyone can see as proof of your Jesus!🙂

You asked the question:
What Has Jesus Achieved in the midst of Us His Children!?

I have answered you about the Achievement of the Lord Jesus Christ in my church and if you are not satisfied, too bad.


My response was Clear and Detailed, your dissatisfaction my be an indication that either
1. Your Jesus is completely different from my Jesus. If course, your Jesus is An Angel you call Michael
2. You don't even know the Achievement of the real Jesus Christ in the Life of His own.

This is an irreconcilable difference as Light and Darkness cannot coexist.

Truthseeker10:
Lol....look at this man. So the "God" in Hebrews 1:8 dies not mean "Almighty God"?

Please go in shame.
So, you LIED!
You won't answer my questions

MaxInDHouse:
What is the name of your church and tell me what your Jesus has achieved in the midst of its His worshipers?

I belong to "The Church of Jesus Christ" ( I won't tell you the city I reside but I am in Nigeria)

What Has Jesus Achieved in the midst of Us His Children!?
1. He Bought us with the costly Price of His Blood on the Cross and Adopted Us into Himself By His Spirit.
2. He Sealed us with His Spirit so that we become His Children
3. He made us Holy to Himself and Gave us His Spirit to lead us in Good Works
4. He Helped us to Nurture our Fruit of the Spirit by which our Character as His Ambassadors are nurtured and projected in the World
5. He gave us His Gifts of the Holy Spirit by which we are Empowered to Make Disciples of All nations, to Preach, to Heal the Sick and Cast out Demons as we go about Preaching the Good News to All Creations
6. He made Us His own Workmanship Created to do Good works for Him as we Represent Him Wherever we are
7. He made us to Love Him and one another as He has Loved us with a pure Love


So, above is the summary of what my Jesus has achieved in the midst of us who worship Him in Spirit and Truth!

Without Jesus, we are NOTHING!
In Jesus Christ we are made COMPLETE!

We still have some minor individual and personal shortcomings, BUT we are all work in-progress, and daily, we grow together Loving More of God and our Neighbours as ourselves.

We are ALL waiting for the second coming of Jesus Christ: so, we do the work of the ministry knowing that He will reward us according to our Faithfulness to our calling of Living a Life Worthy of His calling, Preaching the Good News and Making Disciples of all Creations.


I have nothing else to Add to this INFORMATION about the name of my church and what Jesus has achieved in the midst of us His worshipers?

Thank you for asking me of what the Lord Jesus Christ has Achieved in our Midst?

MaxInDHouse:
You have not answered the question i asked you so until you do there is nothing further to discuss with you!



The person i quoted understand what is called SARCASM!🙂

When did you ask me any question?
It's been months ago I chatted with you last.


So, it was sarcasm!?
LOL!!
I believe you!!! LOL!!!!!!!

MaxInDHouse:
Expecting some aimless arguments?

Ọmọ count me out.

Jesus is not the Almighty, can't be the Almighty and will never ever be the Almighty.

So continue with your fellow debators!😂

Not with you sir. I said reach out to your fellow elders for discussion.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't get it Jesus is the Almighty God it's when he is the son that he stop being Almighty God!😂

Two opposite statements by the same person within a space of just 1 hour
Are you CONFUSED!?

MaxInDHouse:
Funny guy!😂

So glad you are happy this morning.






But it is STILL good that you ask the other Elders or the Board of Governors of the JW to review these questions below


1. Was Jesus TEMPORARILY the Almighty God OR
2. was Jesus TEMPORARILY the Son?

3. Can the Almighty be TEMPORAL?


Have a nice day!
You truely made my day with this positive change of stance! The Truth will definitely set you FREE once you adopt it.

MaxInDHouse:
Don't worry about me jàre focus on your fellow debator count me out!😂

No problem!
At least you are coming closer to the Truth. One of these days, you will be free.

Shalom!




But it is good that you ask the other Elders to review these questions



So,
1. Was Jesus TEMPORARILY the Almighty God OR
2. was Jesus TEMPORARILY the Son?

3. Can the Almighty be TEMPORAL?


I am still notwithstanding happy for your new conclusion it shows that you are now learning the correct doctrine of Christ progressively.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't get it Jesus is the Almighty God it's when he is the son that he stop being Almighty God! 😂

Wonders will never end!?

So, after all these years and back and forth, you now admit that Jesus is the Almighty God except when he is the son!?

So,
Was Jesus TEMPORARILY the Almighty God OR
was Jesus TEMPORARILY the Son?

Can the Almighty be TEMPORAL?


I am happy for your new conclusion it shows that you are now learning the correct doctrine of Christ progressively.

Truthseeker10:
Are you denying that you did not claim that Hebrews 1:8 does not refer to the Son as an Almighty God with the screenshot evidence that I have shown you?

Did you not clearly tell me that The verse is not saying that the son is AN Almighty God?

Is this not the same reason sonmvayina ended discussion with you?

Why are you repeating yourself, please shamelessly like a broken record quote EXACTLY where I said that "Jesus is not the "Almighty God" in Hebrews 1:8"


Did Hebrews 1: 8 anywhere say that "the son is AN Almighty God?"

Truthseeker10:
I have given you screenshot evidence of you saying that Hebrews 1:8 does not say that Jesus is the Almighty God.

so if Jesus is not an Almighty God according to Hebrews 1:8, what is the essence of the verse calling Jesus "God"?

Which part of the English language do you not understand

I still challenge you to quote EXACTLY where I said that "Jesus is not the "Almighty God" in Hebrews 1:8" otherwise, you are the TRUE son of your father.

Truthseeker10:
Below is your reply to my question concerning Hebrews 1:8.

I still challenge you to quote EXACTLY where I said that "Jesus is not the "Almighty God" in Hebrews 1:8" otherwise, you are the TRUE son of your father.

Truthseeker10:
If Hebrews 1:8 is not referring to Jesus as "God" to mean the "Almighty God", what kind of "God" could Hebrews 1:8 be referring to Jesus?

Why repeat your question if I had already answered it? Quote me please....the son of his father!

I thought you said I claimed that "Jesus is not the "Almighty God" in Hebrews 1:8"

So, did Heb 1:8 read that the son is AN Almighty God? It is a YES or NO answer!

Mr UnruthSeeker10, respond to my challenge or apologise!

sonmvayina:
odeeeeeh.
so why list it ?

you listed and went on to bold the three of them, so i guessed that's what you are implying...

You seem to have a preconceived interpretation of what you think I am saying.



so can you explain your point and the passage you posted.

No need!

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣look at this man......he has started deviating after shooting himself on the foot by claiming that Jesus is not the "Almighty God" in Hebrews 1:8. Are you telling me now that you cannot explain Hebrews 1:8? Why are you using questions to deviate from this verse that you are teaching me? Kindly answer the below.

Since you claim that Hebrews 1:8 does not refer to Jesus as the "Almighty God" by calling him "God", what kind of "God" could Hebrews 1:8 be referring to Jesus?

I challenge you to quote EXACTLY where I said that "Jesus is not the "Almighty God" in Hebrews 1:8" otherwise, you are the TRUE son of your father.


John 8:44:
"You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

By their Fruit, they are known!
Satan is a LIAR!!!!

Truthseeker10:
Below is your answer to the question that I asked about Hebrews 1:8.

Below is also a screenshot from bible hub in reference to Psalm 45:6 which Hebrews 1:8 is gotten from.

If Hebrews 1:8 is not referring to Jesus as "God" to mean the "Almighty God", what kind of "God" could Hebrews 1:8 be referring to Jesus?

You did NOT answer my questions. I have asked you three Questions

TenQ:
State exactly what you read the Bible saying my friend and add nothing.

What did you read?

Why do you find it difficult to answer my questions

1. Can anyone see God?
2. Can God be in Heaven and on Earth concurrently?
3. Who was speaking in Heb1:8 to the Son?


The first two questions are YES or NO and the third Question required the Name or Identity of the one speaking!

Again
1. Can anyone see God?
2. Can God be in Heaven and on Earth concurrently?
3. Who was speaking in Heb1:8 to the Son?


Answer them by number so that we both can be clear that the questions are answered indeed.

sonmvayina:
hh

you don't seem to understand it..

when God breathed on the man he has made with dust, it became a living soul.
we are all living soul, we do not have a soul.
when a soul expires, the body is buried and it returns to the earth and the spirit goes back to. God who owns it.
like the psalmist says in psalm 104:29-31
"sent forth your spirit and they are created and fill the earth, take it and they die and return back to dust....
we are all living soul, we do not have a soul....
you only need two adults (male and female) to create a human being.

Until you show me where I said WE HAVE A SOUL, have a nice day

Truthseeker10:
Baba TenQ don sharperly delete his response 🤣🤣🤣

TenQ:
State exactly what you read the Bible saying my friend and add nothing.

What did you read?

Why do you find it difficult to answer my questions

1. Can anyone see God?
2. Can God be in Heaven and on Earth concurrently?
3. Who was speaking in Heb1:8 to the Son?


The first two questions are YES or NO and the third Question required the Name or Identity of the one speaking!

Dishonesty clearly runs in some people's veins
Can you show me exactly when I claimed that
" the God in Hebrews 1:8 Is not the Almighty God."!
OR that
"the God Is a smaller God compared to the God that anointed him in verse 9"
Where!?

All I did was to show you scriptures without my personal comments but like the son of the one chased out of heaven you needed to tell lies to advance your Strawman.

Unfortunately, you clearly displayed your nature of the one chased out of Heaven.

FEAR and IGNORANCE will not allow you to answer my questions