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Expanse2020:
So they called him John in the Quran 🤣🤣🤣

You have switched on to to lieing mode.

Feigning dumb just to keep up the appearance of talking!

Expanse2020:
Jesus kill to fortify the land😂😂😂🤣

Says who?
You!?

honesttalk21:
You are quite something. Is this a stalling technique to escape showing your lie on Muhammad pbuh loaning Bilal from Abu Bakr?

How many times must I explain that Bilal was asking to know he wasn't moving from one restrictive slave master to another who wouldn't let him practice his faith?

Is this simple explanation beyond your level of understanding.







You claim when muslims are cornered? Have you that have nothing but your fallacious logic to back up a lie that Bilal was loaned dare speak more from a drunken state?

You were jus repeating yourself of illogicality.
Repeating falsehood does not make it correct!


On a serious note:
Are you saying that Islam abolished slavery!?

honesttalk21:
There are so many things you don't know and like the lying DEVIL you are you arrogantly feign a false knowing.

1. The moment Abu Bakr al-Siddiq; may Allah be pleased with him,embraced Islam, he spent all his money for the cause of Islam. He promptly set people free and helped end the hardships of the downtrodden Muslims.

2. Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him, was born to a wealthy and noble family in Mecca. As a successful businessman, he was widely respected for his intelligence and honourable character. Even before the arrival of Islam, Abu Bakr shunned the pervasive idol worship of his surrounding society, choosing instead the religion of Ibrahim, peace be upon him.

3. Umayyah once called Bilal and ordered him to whip another slave.
"He says there is only one God," said Umayyah, "and that every person is important. A whipping will surely teach him a lesson."
But the sight of the whip did not frighten the slave.
The man's courage brought Bilal to believe in the oneness of God, the belief of all Muslims

4. Jabir ibn Abdullah reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, enjoined good treatment of slaves and he would say, “Feed them from the same food you eat, clothe them from the same clothes you wear, and do not torture the creation of Allah Almighty.” al-Adab al-Mufrad 188

5. Your slaves are your brothers. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him should feed him with the same food he eats and clothe him with the same clothes he wears, and do not burden him beyond his capacity, and if you burden him then help him. Muslim 1661



What did I fabricate or forge? I see indeed that birds of a feather flock together. Show me what I fabricate or forge.

Tenq show proof that Bilal was loaned to Muhammad.
Not your fallacious logic but actual proof.

Why is it that Muslims when cornered will begin to tell irrelevant stories rather than to address the questions raised! Who asked you for stories.

Address the illogicality of the statement of Bilal at the point when Abubakr bought him!


On a serious note:
Are you saying that Islam abolished slavery!?

Expanse2020:
To fortify the land they used accursed guy hung on a plank
Oki get that now
Thank you

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Expanse2020:
Yahaya is different from yaweh 🤣🤣🤣

Unfortunately, Muslims can lie for satan!
Did I tell you that Yahaya is Yahweh?


Tafsir Qur'an 19.7 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
And so Gabriel called him, saying: (O Zachariah! Lo! We bring you tidings of a son whose name is John ) Yahya in Arabic, because he has breathed life (ahya) into his mother's womb; (We have given the same name to none before (him)) We have not given before a son to Zachariah whose name is John; it is also said that this means: there was no one before him whose name was John.


Tafsir Qur'an 19.7 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
God, exalted be He, in responding to his request for a son that will be the incarnation of His mercy, says: ‘O Zachariah! Indeed We give you good tidings of a boy, who will inherit in the way that you have requested — whose name is John . Never before have We made anyone his namesake’, that is, [never has there been] anyone with the name ‘John’

The name mean “Yahweh is merciful,”

Expanse2020:
Mumu there is different between gospel and the bible
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Mumu bible was not given to ISSA A.S but gospel..
Bible was written bible by Paul, mark Luke with there love letters and completed by the guy who raped his mother claimed bible is free but keep selling to the 🐑🐑🐑🐑 s till eternity
😂😂😂😂😂🤣
The sheeps cannot wise anymore

When your ignorance is beyond redemption to know that Bible means book and there are several books including the Gospel, the Torah, the Psalms, the Letters etc in the bible.

See your life outside!?

You are even more ignorant than your acclaimed illiterate Fraudster called Mohammed

Expanse2020:
Care to explain this verse busy
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And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death , and he be to be put to death , and thou hang him on a tree : His body shall not remain all night upon the tree , but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day ; ( for he that is Hanged Is Accursed of God ; ) that thy land be not defiled , which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. “

Executed people should not bee left unburied overnight so as not to defile the land of Israel

Expanse2020:
Don't assume but accept

Please answer my question!


What is Allah doing by naming Zachariah's son as Yahaya after Yahweh?

Expanse2020:
Is the christian bearing Yahaya

It is a Jewish name meaning Yahweh is merciful

My question was simple

Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of?


What is Allah doing by naming Zachariah's son after Yahweh?

Read further I have message your counterpart on it

Qur'an 19:7
(His prayer was answered): "O Zakariya! We give thee good news of a son: His name shall be Yahya : on none by that name have We conferred distinction before."

It's a simple Question

My question was simple

Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of?[/quote]

Expanse2020:
Read further I have message your counterpart on it

Qur'an 19:7
(His prayer was answered): "O Zakariya! We give thee good news of a son: His name shall be Yahya : on none by that name have We conferred distinction before."

It's a simple Question

Expanse2020:
Yahwism underwent several redevelopments and recontextualizations as the notion of divinities aside from or comparable to Yahweh was gradually degraded by new religious currents and ideas. During the monarchic period (c. 10th to 6th centuries BCE) of the mid-Iron Age, the religion of Israel moved towards the sole worship of Yahweh alone; however, these theological changes initially remained largely confined to small groups,[13] only spreading to the population at large during the general political turbulence of the 7th and 6th centuries BCE. The progressive evolution towards monotheism had ultimately culminated by the end of the Babylonian exile in the late 6th century BCE, and by the 4th century BCE, Yahwism had coalesced into what is now known as Second Temple Judaism.[7] Yahwism also gave rise to Samaritanism.

READ MORE ON YAHWEH TODAY
[8]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism

My question was simple

Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of?

Expanse2020:
You should asked your scholars why Dem removed gospel of Thomas and bananas
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1.
You never heard Jesus cursed a kid(to witter away like a leave or baranch of tree) that disrupt water he used to make clay sparrow
2. He cursed a tree just because he was hungry and laid a frustration on the innocent tree
3. The cursed the teachers that sent him to learn from them they always fall and dies
4. He cursed Phareeses
5. He cursed Judas
And so many more
So tell me where is love your neighbor as yourself in the attitude
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And this is the gospel Allah says Mohammed is written in?

You are shameless!

Expanse2020:
I had Jesus was cursed by God from the bible too
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Cursed com plenty for bible
Oga oooo

You have started behaving like a circus monkey with your babblings.

Gal 3:13:
"Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree:"

You remain under the curse of the law of sin and death unless you allow the Lamb of God to take away your sin and guilt.

John 1:29:
"The next day John sees Jesus coming to him, and said, Behold the Lamb of God, which takes away the sin of the world."


You have been decieved by the greatest deciever. Open your eyes and stop defending the 419 of Mohammed

Expanse2020:
Ehen 🤣🤣😂😂😂but you believe Muhammed and Allah that Jesus is form from pure spirit and not a sinner in the Quran but fail to accept that your bible said Jesus is a sinner and a killer (according to gospel of Thomas). But

You are just repeating your lies as it it will somehow change into the truth.
1. Where in the Bible did Jesus kill any man or woman or child.
2. I do NOT Believe Mohammed one tiny bit sir.
He is a fraudster and 419!

Expanse2020:
Did you know Yahweh was a pagan God who consist of 3 in 1 God
Have you read about Zeus)Eassus

Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of?

AllenSpencer:
Anyone who opposes the genocide is now referred to as Hamas or being antisemitic.

Africa just needs to be thanking God that, those Jews were not relocated to Africa as earlier proposed. They would have conquered the continent.

What do you advise Israel to do at this stage?
What does Hamas want that will guarantee peace?

Gadafii:
How’s nazi hitlerrs holocaust different from what isreal is doing, if they are allowed they would kill more children and women compared to hitler

You claim you are fighting hamas, but everyday pictures of innocent children and women flood the met, none of hamas fighters

You have killed everything in Gaza except hamas

Does Hamas fight with army uniforms?
Why does Hamas fight behind their own civilians?

Fineman2:
Shame on Israel, they really hate to hear the truth

Shame on people who do not know what Hamas want!

Expanse2020:
Shut up
Where did you see it show me where in Quran that Jubril is spirit of Allah
gaffeee

Read and quote me properly

In Islam,
-Jesus is a Spirit of Allah
-Jibril is the Holy Spirit
-Allah has a Spirit

But Muslims are confused about what a spirit actually is!

Expanse2020:
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You can see the Spirit of Islam all over your fake fabricated story of the fake Jesus.

So, Jesus spoke Greek!?

Expanse2020:
Tell me is the spirit also the same as the Angel

In Islam,
Jesus is a Spirit of Allah
Jibril is the Holy Spirit
Allah has a Spirit

But they are confused about what a spirit actually is

SIRTeee15:
Hehe😅😂🤣Confusion galore in the mosque...
Who will help solve the confusion. Who will settle the disagreement b4 they start stabbing themselves.

TenQ won't U volunteer and reveal to Muslims who holy spirit truly is. Since the so called clear book has only created more confusion.

Abi U go wait until they kill each other finish on top who got it right.
U know these Muslims don't joke with violence.

The Spirit of Islam is the spirit of violence to enforce submission to Mohammed.

Actually, the true God of the Muslims is Mohammed. The secondary God is Allah

Expanse2020:
Please let me ask a question
Is ALLAH Your God

Which of the Allah?

The Allah that is my God is Yahweh!

Any other Allah is a counterfeit Allah.

But my Allah is certainly not the Allah of Mohammed nor the Muslims

Expanse2020:
Ehen fabricator🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣says from fabricator of all time

After being thoroughly comfounded with facts from their own religious literatures

AntiChristian:
Which religion was copied?

Bring your lies make we expose you here!

Before Mohammed,
Who were those who used to rever the black stone?

Who were those who used to circumnavigate the kaaba?

Who are those people who used to call their Deity Ehad (Ahad in Arabic)?

Who were those who called Moses, Abraham, David etc their prophet?

honesttalk21:
Did I tarry long?
In one narration, it is mentioned that when Hazrat Bilal(ra) became a Muslim, his masters took hold of him and laid him on the ground and placed stones and cow skin on him and said, “Your gods are Lat and Uzza [names of idols].” However, Hazrat Bilal(ra) would only repeat, “Ahad, Ahad [God is One, God is One].” Hazrat Abu Bakr(ra) approached his masters and said, “For how long will you continue to torment this man?” Hazrat Abu Bakr(ra) paid seven auqiyah for Hazrat Bilal(ra) and freed him.

Obviously the discussion took place before he was freed.

One auqiyah is equivalent to 40 dirham; that is, he paid 280 dirhams for him. Thereafter, Hazrat Abu Bakr(ra) narrated this incident to the Holy Prophet(sa), upon which the Holy Prophet(sa) said, “O Abu Bakr! Include me in this deed as well.” Hazrat Abu Bakr(ra) replied, “O Prophet(sa) of Allah! I have already freed him.” (Ibn Sa‘d, Al-Tabaqat al-Kubra, Vol. 3, Bilal bin Rabah [Beirut, Lebanon: Dar al-Kutub al-‘Ilmiyyah, 2017] 175) (Waheed al-Zaman, Lughat al-Hadith, Vol. 4 [Lahore, Pakistan: Ali Asif Printers, 2002] 527

Abu Bakr freeing him is in line with prophet Muhammad pbuh discouraging slavery. The Prophet was thus included as he is the one to have encouraged the freeing of slaves.

This was when Abubakr bought Bilal for himself.


It doesn't explain Bilal saying :
Sahih al-Bukhari 3755
Narrated Qais:
Bilal said to Abu Bakr, " If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah's Sake , then leave me for Allah's Work."

Why did Bilal became the cock crow at dawn for Mohammed for calls to prayers?

I've asked you

If Bilal was set free, tell us when and the occurence when Abubakr set Bilal free to warrant the hadith above.

honesttalk21:
Show how your derivations are not a product of logical fallacy. I have backed my statement with references and you only have the hadith which obviously took place immediately after the transaction with Umayyah. Show your references which you cannot pathological liar.

This make perfect logical sense except you can fault it!


Check your highlight in yellow :
This is another unsolicited lie: isn't it?
Can you prove this as I have shown you that it's a lie from several hadiths


Your shamelessness is beyond bounds. Even though I told you that the book of Sa'd is not available you converted yourself to Ahmadiya just to have a cheap point!?

Expanse2020:
So Jubril is a human 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The word of not a sinner Yes
The spirit the God created from be as it is not. Sinner Yes

But the bible said and affirm it that Jesus is a sinner by generalizing the facts on the bible

According to Allah, is Jesus a sinner like Mohammed?

honesttalk21:
A million?

Well I have answered at least twice that Bilal inquired if Abu Bakr bought him to re engage him in slavery or he did so for the sake of Allah so he can live a life engaged in the fulfilment of Allah's will for him i.e Jihad of self and encouragement of justice.

How did you come about this because there is no single time line to justify it.

I am waiting!

honesttalk21:
Now how did you come about


Where did you get this from? You definitely manufactured it in your lies factory.

It makes perfect logical sense sir.

Else explain why a FREED Bilal will say Free me if you have bought me for the sake of Allah and keep me if you bought me for yourself?

honesttalk21:
Did you not say:



b]Abu Bakr emancipated Bilal FROM Umayyah ibn Khalaf by buying him for himself. He loaned him to Mohammed [/b]to be his megaphone for calling Muslims to prayer

b]He loaned him to Mohammed [/b]
Proof of this statement which you obviously lie about is what I ask and surely you a humanified lie or bot cannot produce.

Did you not make this statement without proof or reference?

And I have asked you a million times


Why then did Bilal say:

Sahih al-Bukhari 3755
Narrated Qais:
Bilal said to Abu Bakr, " If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah's Sake , then leave me for Allah's Work."

Why did Bilal became the cock crow at dawn for Mohammed?


I've asked you

If Bilal was set free, tell us when and the occurence when Abubakr set Bilal free to warrant the hadith above.

honesttalk21:
The lies of LIEING tenq have caught up with him. He says by a weird logic that a conversation between Bilal and Abu Bakr took place at a time after the death of Prophet Muhammad pbuh because he feels people will tend to back biting after the prophet pbuh had died. He fails to recognise the necessity to quickly define rules of engagement at the on set when Bilal was bought off Umayyah bin Khalaf. He goes on to say Bilal was loaned to Muhammad pbuh in his garrulous lieing gish gallop without proof.

He of course is to head dip in his arrogance to see what else is to be learnt from the hadith. He who dislikes being called a liar should refrain from lying. PERIOD



He likes the sound of the arabic word Taqqiya and even attempts to make it a past tense using English. Very laughable compounding words from different languages together. He doesn't even know the meaning of Taqiyya and imagines it to be just his favourite pass time; lieing. Too bad! Go and understand the limited exception in which it is used.

He is unaware or pretends to forget slavery too occured in Israelites culture and the biblical Jesus said a thing or two about this.

Mr Liar Dis_Honesttalk21

Show the hadith that fixes the context as this you claimed above

Bilal was saying to Abubakr,
If you claim you have bought me for Allah, then free me for Allah
BUT
if you bought me for yourself, then keep me for yourself.


Islam is a religion of cascade of lies!
It seems only you doesn't know that

Expanse2020:
Was Jesus not a human?
Was Jesus not born from a woman?
If he is not of the two we can deduce he is not hence if he is found in the radial of the two aaawwww otilor
Jesu ti lor

Was Jibril not human?


Why are you afraid to answer this:
Is the Word of God a sinner?
Is the spirit of God a sinner?

And
What was Jibril's mouth doing on the vulva of Mary?

Expanse2020:
Was Jesus born from a woman or a man

Show the verse that said Jesus born fro. a woman makes him a sinner!

Why are you afraid to answer this:
Is the Word of God a sinner?
Is the spirit of God a sinner?

And
What was Jibril's mouth doing on the vulva of Mary?