Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 6:58pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
honesttalk21: This hadith narrates a conversation between Bilal ibn Rabah, a close companion of the Prophet Muhammad, and Abu Bakr, who later became the first Caliph of Islam. The context of this hadith is rooted in the early days of Islam when slavery was prevalent in Arabian society before the migration to Medina.
Bilal was a former slave who converted to Islam and became one of the most trusted companions of the Prophet Muhammad.
In this particular hadith, Bilal is expressing his loyalty and dedication to serving Allah above all else. By saying, “If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah’s Sake, then leave me for Allah’s Work,” Bilal is emphasizing that his ultimate allegiance lies with serving Allah and fulfilling his duties as a Muslim.
He is reminding Abu Bakr that if he acquired Bilal as a slave solely for personal gain or benefit, then he should treat him as such. However, if Abu Bakr’s intention was to free Bilal for the sake of Allah and to support him in his service to Islam, then Bilal would prefer to dedicate himself to serving Allah’s cause. Liar! You think repeating a lie will convert it into the truth!? Show the hadith that fixes the context as this you claimed above Bilal was saying to Abubakr, If you claim you have bought me for Allah, then free me for Allah BUT if you bought me for yourself, then keep me for yourself. Sahih al-Bukhari 3755Narrated Qais: Bilal said to Abu Bakr, "If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah's Sake, then leave me for Allah's Work."[/quote]Bilal was "Taqqiyaed"! He was just an ordinary deceives black slave! |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 6:54pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
honesttalk21: And he requotes the same thing The liar honesttalk21 was using an undated hadith to claim history of Bilal's freedom. Shameless! |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can Ancestral Covenant Be Broken? by TenQ: 4:27pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
RenaissanceMann: I kinda agree with this; but I'd like to know what makes you say so before I add what I want to. Demons are spiritual equivalents of pathogens and other disease causing agents. They are like genetic mutations that run in some families. Every Christian has been given power and authority to cast out demons. On this, I say that Believing Parents have authority as parents to watch over, protect and nourish their children. On this, they can exercise their authority in Christ to deliver their children. |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:20pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
honesttalk21: Fantastic reasoning. Bilal r.a called for prayers in which he too prayed and benefitted immense reward from. This is the argument a LIEING tenq uses to validate a false claim that Bilal was enslaved to Prophet Muhammad and not doing what he was happy to do haven said to Abu Bakr he wanted to be engaged in acts of Jihad rather than be a slave. In the act of calling others to pray and a means towards their individual and collective good Bilal had performed a great act of Jihad. Indeed for all that hearken to this call and pray , Bilal is rewarded.
LIEING tenq hangs on to a 'undated' hadith to claim Bilal wasn't free until the prophet's death yet can't validate the claim that Bilal was allegedly loaned to Munammdgn So you are aware that your hadiths are undated!? So, explain why Bilal said to Abubakr : Sahih al-Bukhari 3755Narrated Qais: Bilal said to Abu Bakr, "If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah's Sake, then leave me for Allah's Work." |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:17pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: I have shown you 3 different verses depicting the act and backing my claimed it's left for you to comprehend the truth Did you show where Jesus was a sinner like Mohammed from the three scriptures? Is the Word of God a sinner? Is the spirit of God a sinner? What was Jibril's mouth doing on the vulva of Mary? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:15pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: you said that not the Quran 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 time to change topic What was Jubril doing with his mouth on Mary's vulva? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:09pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: Na so when you bring a lie or misconception you need to be clearified Sahih al-Bukhari 595Narrated `Abdullah bin Abi Qatada: My father said, "One night we were traveling with the Prophet (ﷺ) and some people said, 'We wish that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) would take a rest along with us during the last hours of the night.' He said, 'I am afraid that you will sleep and miss the (Fajr) prayer.' Bilal said, 'I will make you get up.' So all slept and Bilal rested his back against his Rahila and he too was overwhelmed (by sleep) and slept. The Prophet (ﷺ) got up when the edge of the sun had risen and said, 'O Bilal! What about your statement?' He replied, 'I have never slept such a sleep.' The Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'Allah captured your souls when He wished, and released them when He wished. O Bilal! Get up and pronounce the Adhan for the prayer.' The Prophet (ﷺ) performed ablution and when the sun came up and became bright, he stood up and prayed." |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:07pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: The bible said everybody including Jesus in impure they are sinner 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Why are yi changing the topic 🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 Your normal routine Japa I a have asked you to quote the passage to no avail. Then I asked you: Are you saying that the Qur'an is impure? Did it not come out from the dirty mouths of human beings?
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Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 2:12pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: The bible said everybody including Jesus in impure they are sinner 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Why are yi changing the topic 🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 Your normal routine Japa What verse? Is the Word of God impure? Is the Spirit of God impure? When Jibril came to Mohammed, did he become impure? |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Slip Of Tongue by Allah In The Qur'an : Allah Is NOT the God of Israel! by TenQ(op): 1:39pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Ohyoudidnt: Bad grammar in English translation or bad grammar in Arabic language? Bad grammar in English, Arabic and any other language |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 1:34pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: So hot FROM JOB 🤣🤣😂😂 How can he who is born of woman be pure? Are you saying that the Qur'an is impure? Did it not come out from the dirty mouths of human beings? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 1:33pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
honesttalk21: This is not even strawman but punching the air. You don't have proof to back up your lie that Abu Bakr loaned Bilal to Prophet Muhammad pbuh.
Obviously a leopard cannot change it's spots just as TENQ cannot resist from lying. Is it a lie that Bilal spent most of his time with Mohammed helping him to do call for prayers? Was Bilal doing call for prayers for Abubakr or was it for Mohammed? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 1:31pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: Where were you there🤣😂😂😂 Don't you know your religion again? Must I quote it for you? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 1:30pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: Definitely you don't know your bible Given you three different verse from that shit thing that raped her mother and wrote the cabbage shit book😂🤣🤣 According to the Qur'an, What was Jubril doing with his mouth on Mary's vulva? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 1:29pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: But you can't the verses there sorry is your case You made a claim, prove it by showing evidence where it is written as such in the bible |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 1:29pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: What are you waiting for 🤣🤣🤣 What you wanted to do |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 12:33pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: How who slept ,😂😂😂😂😂 Bilal. Did he not oversleep and miss the time of prayer? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 12:32pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: So hot FROM JOB 🤣🤣😂😂 How can he who is born of woman be pure? Just Look again and find a single scripture that says this! |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 12:29pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: Please tell me is it not bible verse again 🤣😂🤣Before you let me knee down.. Abi you don't know scripture again
Bonus from Job [/b]How can he(jesus and All the character in the bible) who is born of woman be pure? 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😱😱😱😱 I am still. waiting for you to show me the scripture that says "everyone born from a woman is a sinner"
Look again and find a single scripture that says this! |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 12:27pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: They have of course but I was explain technically to your brain to comprehend the truth I am waiting...! |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 11:30am On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: Psalm 51 does it ring a bell Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me 😱😱😱Ewww what is that Going by this everyone born from a woman is a sinner Let me add bonus to it So, Jesus said this!? Who is the one who said this? Was he speaking also for Mohammed? Expanse2020: Ecclesiastes 7: NIV Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins. 🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣Am I communicating Is it ring in your Brain Chaiii Christianity and hypocrites na 5 and 6 Including Jibril when he came to earth as a perfect human? I feel like spanking you hard and having you kneel down with your hands in the air. Is this your scripture proof that "everyone born from a woman is a sinner"? Look again and find a single scripture that says this! |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 11:24am On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: Was Bilal the only person who called the adhan If Bilal was the person who spent mostly his time with Muhammed S.A.W. he should be the best in the hadith collection and coalition but he didn't show in 1 to 7 or 10 🤣😂😂You bluff talk anotherthing Is Bilal not a slave!? His job is to be the accurate time keeper and megaphone! This is an outdoor job man! This is why he couldn't give hadiths other than that which concerns prayers Eg. how he slept off etc |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by TenQ: 11:19am On Feb 18, 2024 |
AntiChristian:

Elders dey worship God in heaven again?
Are they worshipping the father alone or the father plus son or the trinity together cos Jesus will be at the right side separate from his father!
Where will holy spirit be?
A Christian once told me that God is like the President, Jesus, the deputy and the elders like Senate!
So where is the judiciary? Michael and Gabriel right? Lol. For your sake, I will write a piece on the Taoheed. Promise me you will stay to the end and not run away. The best Islam can do is Strawman Argument. |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 10:54am On Feb 18, 2024 |
honesttalk21: Perfectly simple question to validate your assertion and you are so evasive? Does this not allude to your lying nature? Are you looking for a document!? Then why can't you show evidence that Bilal never spent most of his time with Mohammed? Who does Mohammed always send to do call for prayers for Him (five times in a day)? Do you need hadiths to answer this question? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 10:52am On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: Bible said any one born from a woman is a sinner...
The question now is, is Jesus drop from the sky Or was it born from a woman
If he drop from the sky then he is not a sinner but If he is born from a woman then according to th bible he is a dinner
If it's not then proof me wrong from the bible verses You are just repeating assertions 1. Can you show me the verse that said so? 2. Can you show by any Christian doctrine that Jesus is a sinner? 3. As long as Allah or Mohammed did not say that Jesus is a sinner, it is okay by me. This makes you the liar! |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 9:49am On Feb 18, 2024 |
honesttalk21: Before you go about your proof answer the question asked. Where is the proof Prophet Muhammad pbuh loaned Bilal from Abu Bakr? Who does Mohammed always send to do call for prayers for Him (five times in a day)? Do you need hadiths to answer this question? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 9:45am On Feb 18, 2024 |
[quote author=Expanse2020 post=128512098][/quote]1. Can you show me the verse that said so? 2. Can you show by any Christian doctrine that Jesus is a sinner? 3. As long as Allah or Mohammed did not say that Jesus is a sinner, it is okay by me.
This makes you the liar! |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 9:41am On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020: The yahudis and Nasaraniyaas 👌 Among them those who are submitters like us Muslim and those that are arrogant, and mislead like you back then 😂😂😂😂😂 Muslims can lie for satan! Who are the Yahudis? Who are the Nasaraniyaas? We are speaking English and not Arabic to each other! These two don't have English names? The Jews!? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:49pm On Feb 17, 2024 |
advocatejare: It’s not their fault, Satan/Baal/Allah has blinded their hearts, many of them have chosen to go to hell rather than to accept Christ into their lives I agree with you. If Indeed Allah is the best deceiver, then woe betide anyone who he misleads |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:48pm On Feb 17, 2024 |
Expanse2020: You don't need to forgot the filthy book because it's the one that called him a sinner not the Allah SWT, Muhammad SAW and the Quran in other words, Jesus is not a sinner as you have been insinuating! SMH! |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:47pm On Feb 17, 2024 |
Expanse2020: Because those who didn't follow what the prophets brought as a guidance in Jew and Nassara which make them kafir and there is no other place for them in heaven except hell 🔥 so what it's the argument all about.. no doubt hell is there home😂😂😂😂 Then who are the people of the Book? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 3:36pm On Feb 17, 2024 |
advocatejare: Kudos brother for continuing with this good work.
I’ve been busy with an assignment that is why I’ve not been posting here. But I’ve been following your posts. You’ve been doing great. Continue exposing those workers of darkness and shine the gospel of the light of Christ to them! 👍🏻 Amen and thanks for the encouragement A Muslim will rather defend falsehood and illogical point of view rather than admit the truth. |