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AntiChristian:
Where did i say only Paul wrote the NT?
Better clear your eyes with medical Locust beans!
Paul wrote more than all the major disciples altogether!

Did you forget your initial question?
Perhaps you drank too much from that which is haram!

AntiChristian:
Paste Hausa Bible Genesis 1:1-10 here if Allah doesn't appear there 11 times!

Ignoramus Liar!

Is the name of your Deity God?

Is Allah Hausa or Arabic?

gidgiddy:
Don't expect to see those people champion any such movement while "their brother" is in power

I have think Nigeria has made their choice, they are at sidownlook stage and that includes OBJ

honesttalk21:
Google Translate is fictitious?

حَدَّثَنَا مُوسَى، قَالَ‏:‏ حَدَّثَنَا وُهَيْبٌ، قَالَ‏:‏ حَدَّثَنَا سُهَيْلٌ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ‏:‏ لاَ تَبَاغَضُوا، وَلاَ تَنَافَسُوا، وَكُونُوا عِبَادَ اللهِ إِخْوَانًا‏

The best option is you copy the Arabic text from Sunnah.com and do a translation elsewhere don't use the one on Sunnah.com



At this point I see our continuing discussions as useless as you are so used to telling lies you are unable to appreciate truth.

The scholars of sunnah.com are ignorant dummies.

Qur'anx.com are also dummies

Sahih Bukhari Hadith 2925
Volume 4, Book 52, Hadith 176
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews until some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O `Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding
behind me; so kill him.'"



https://www.iium.edu.my/deed/hadith/

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight wi the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.'




https://www.islamicity.org/hadith/

Sahih al-Bukhari 2925 (Book 56, Hadith 138) #2798
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Messenger ﷺ said, "You (ie Muslims) will fight with the Jews until some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (ie slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him'."




According to you, ALL these Your scholars are all wrong because they don't know Arabic.

Unfortunately, when I use Google translate for you, you will complain that it cannot be accurate
See your life outside!

Expanse2020:
Why did christian like lies eehn
Abraham sleep with his wife slaves
Jacob sleep with two slaves of her wives
Leah has several children, hoping that Jacob will love her more, Rachel doesn’t have children, Rachel gives Bilhah to Jacob to get children to her name (That’s how people looked at it at that time, the handmaid’s children were credited to the wife), Leah, got into the competition, and gave Zilpah to Jacob as a concubine, and eventually, you had the 12 sons of Jacob, who was also called Israel. So tell me or is it the Solomon or David's you want to talk about or Moses who instructed his men to keep only virgin girls to themselves

Mohammed was caught by his wife having sex with her house girl on her own bed!

Shameless!


Compare with (according to you)

Rachel gives Bilhah to Jacob to get children to her name

or

Leah , got into the competition, and gave Zilpah to Jacob as a concubine,

Unlike the one who committed ADULTERY (illegal sex) with his wives slave girl without consent AND was caught by his wife naked having sex with her slave.
Of course Allah justifies the despicable act as it was important to get verses inside the Qur'an!


Even the all your examples above was before the Law was Given. At that time (see the Yellow highlights) there was no law given by which men can live by.
At the time of Mohammed, several prophets have come from God and their is a law called Adultery!

Shameless adulterous man calling himself a prophet!

honesttalk21:
What's fear got to do with all this? Time is limited Mr.

Got the translation straight from my phone but doubt it is Google's. See Google's.
https://translate.google.com/?sl=ar&tl=en&text=%D8%AD%D9%8E%D8%AF%D9%91%D9%8E%D8%AB%D9%8E%D9%86%D9%8E%D8%A7%20%D9%85%D9%8F%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%8E%D9%89%D8%8C%20%D9%82%D9%8E%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8E%E2%80%8F%3A%E2%80%8F%20%D8%AD%D9%8E%D8%AF%D9%91%D9%8E%D8%AB%D9%8E%D9%86%D9%8E%D8%A7%20%D9%88%D9%8F%D9%87%D9%8E%D9%8A%D9%92%D8%A8%D9%8C%D8%8C%20%D9%82%D9%8E%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8E%E2%80%8F%3A%E2%80%8F%20%D8%AD%D9%8E%D8%AF%D9%91%D9%8E%D8%AB%D9%8E%D9%86%D9%8E%D8%A7%20%D8%B3%D9%8F%D9%87%D9%8E%D9%8A%D9%92%D9%84%D9%8C%D8%8C%20%D8%B9%D9%8E%D9%86%D9%92%20%D8%A3%D9%8E%D8%A8%D9%90%D9%8A%D9%87%D9%90%D8%8C%20%D8%B9%D9%8E%D9%86%D9%92%20%D8%A3%D9%8E%D8%A8%D9%90%D9%8A%20%D9%87%D9%8F%D8%B1%D9%8E%D9%8A%D9%92%D8%B1%D9%8E%D8%A9%D9%8E%D8%8C%20%D8%B9%D9%8E%D9%86%D9%90%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D9%91%D9%8E%D8%A8%D9%90%D9%8A%D9%91%D9%90%20%D8%B5%D9%84%D9%89%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%87%20%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85%20%D9%82%D9%8E%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8E%E2%80%8F%3A%E2%80%8F%20%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%8E%20%D8%AA%D9%8E%D8%A8%D9%8E%D8%A7%D8%BA%D9%8E%D8%B6%D9%8F%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%8C%20%D9%88%D9%8E%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%8E%20%D8%AA%D9%8E%D9%86%D9%8E%D8%A7%D9%81%D9%8E%D8%B3%D9%8F%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%8C%20%D9%88%D9%8E%D9%83%D9%8F%D9%88%D9%86%D9%8F%D9%88%D8%A7%20%D8%B9%D9%90%D8%A8%D9%8E%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8E%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87%D9%90%20%D8%A5%D9%90%D8%AE%D9%92%D9%88%D9%8E%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8B%D8%A7%E2%80%8F&op=translate

So you went to look for a ficticious website that translate Abd to servant.

It's okay. Islam is known for that

Expanse2020:
Shut your dirty mouth please
The word bible was removed from the world biblograph which simply means details or history or record of events...
Just shut up there🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bible means book who be your English teacher de teach u nonsense self

Why don't you confirm!
Google is your friend!

Oh, I forgot,
As a Muslim, you don't care about the Truth

Please answer my questions :



Again:

Please respond to my questions
1. Is this scripture true or false
Quran 4:47
” O you who were given the Scripture, believe in what We have sent down [to Muhammad], confirming that which is with you”

2. Is this scripture true
Quran 2:89
” And when there came to them a Book from Allah confirming that which was with them”

3. Is this scripture true or false
Quran 5:68
“Say, “O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel”

Speaking about the corruption of the Quran:
Is the Quran perfectly preserved?

Expanse2020:
Show me where they wrote BIBLE dullard 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Mr Ignorant,
Bible mean BOOK : it's an old English word.

Again:

Please respond to my questions
1. Is this scripture true or false
Quran 4:47
” O you who were given the Scripture, believe in what We have sent down [to Muhammad], confirming that which is with you”

2. Is this scripture true
Quran 2:89
” And when there came to them a Book from Allah confirming that which was with them”

3. Is this scripture true or false
Quran 5:68
“Say, “O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel”

Speaking about the corruption of the Quran:
Is the Quran perfectly preserved?

Expanse2020:
Like how Abraham slept with his slave
Like David, Solomon, Moses, Jacob and Isaac
Toor the list is even on ended in the bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Sarah (Abraham's wife) gave Hagar her slave girl to Abraham.

David was condemned by God
Solomon was condemned by God

Moses, Jacob and Isaac only you know where you got your facts from


Did Allah ever condemn Mohammed for having sex with Mary the Copt?

Qur'an (66:1-5) -
"O Prophet! Why do you ban (for yourself) that which Allah has made lawful to you, seeking to please your wives?... Allah has already ordained for you, the dissolution of your oaths "

Why did he promise his wives not to have sex with Mary the Copt again?

Expanse2020:
Which book did Allah believe..the one the Paul wrote or the one the Mattew wrote,or the one mark wrote or the Greek one or the Roman one or the catholic one or the pope own or the King James own or orthodox own or Jehovah witnesses or the remaining 100 plus review and revise own...
Which one among

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Guy your IQ no be here too low

Please respond to my questions
1. Is this scripture true or false
Quran 4:47
” O you who were given the Scripture, believe in what We have sent down [to Muhammad], confirming that which is with you”

2. Is this scripture true
Quran 2:89
” And when there came to them a Book from Allah confirming that which was with them”

3. Is this scripture true or false
Quran 5:68
“Say, “O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel”

Speaking about the corruption of the Quran:
Is the Quran perfectly preserved?

Expanse2020:
Aaawwww
I no know😜🤪😜
So when he disobeys God so Dem remove the holy spirit part from his body
What JESUS too I think when he desobey God too God removed the holy spirit from him that why they nail him.. I remembered he called the Real God but got disappointed
😜😜🤪🤪🤪😜😏🤣👂🤣🤪🫣👂🫣🫣🫣🫣

Unfortunately, it was your prophet who got poisoned for his love of women or is it food?

According to your religion, Allah delivered Jesus BUT Abandoned Mohammed the greatest prophet to wallow in pain of poison!

Mohammed falsified the Qur'an and the result was his iorta being cut off

Quran 69:41-47
41. It (the Quran) is not the word of a poet: little it is ye believe! 42 Nor is it the word of a soothsayer: little admonition it is ye receive. 43 (This is) a Message sent down from the Lord of the Worlds. 44 And if the apostle (Mohammed) were to invent any sayings in Our name 45 We should certainly seize him by his right hand 46 And We should certainly then cut off his iorta 47 Nor could any of you withhold him (from Our wrath).




Sahih al-Bukhari 4428
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

Jesus cannot be a Christian sir. We follow Him.

Expanse2020:
Abi lik how Christians are more Christianity than the Jesus
Like how them beautify Jesus church than the one he built 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Like them clap,dance, whistle, drumming, belling more than JESUS did 🤣🤣🤣🤣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣

At least we are not better than Jesus in character.

Do Muslims generally commit adultery with their wife's house girls again! ?

Do Muslims have sex with their son's wives again!?

Do Muslims have sex with a captured slave without waiting for the stipulated time again!?

You are far much better now than your prophet sir! .

Expanse2020:
You can check Google for the answer

Something you Muslims will deny as usual!?

Are you afraid to concur if he's a prophet of Islam?

Expanse2020:
You your holy spirit book to dispute it if not correct 🫣🤣🫣🫣🫣🫣

Your God Allah believes in our book : you seem more knowledgeable than him

From which site did your screenshot come from?
The Truth is never afraid!

honesttalk21:
A key way to identify fraud is hastening of the proponent. Cyber security fraud.

See picture attached

Muslims generally are known for lying and toning down whatever they consider offensive in their religion.

Are you saying that the scholars of Islam in www.sunnah.com fraudulently mistranslated servant to slave?

The Truth is the anvil upon which Islam is broken sir!


Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 209
Abu Hurayra reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "None of you should say, 'My slave ('abdi)' or 'my slavegirl (amati)' All of you are slaves of Allah and all of your women are slaves of Allah. Rather you should say, 'My boy (ghulami)', my slavegirl (jariyyati)', 'my lad (fatayi)' or 'my girl (fatati).'"


Can you see the highlighted?

SLAVE of Allah!

honesttalk21:
Lousy reasoning. Was the question directed ti you? Busy body

Interestingly, I addressed directly SIRTee15 and not you when I noticed you consistently bending the truth to suit your narrative.

Then you were copied for you to know that you are bursted!

honesttalk21:
When you ask a question, stay patient for an answer. I have started answering you and will answer all in due time.

I have engagements that are prior to typing descriptive answers to your questions. I will get to them.

No problem!

Again :

honesttalk21:
4. Solution
The following of the solution you claim is different from that before and after Jesus? What exactly is the solution other than following and adhering to the word and guidance of the almighty God.

This is believing in God as the one, sole, almighty incomparable that does all things. Engaging in acts of truth and justice according to his directions.

1. Is it true that your prophet says your good deeds and Iman cannot guarantee you paradise except by the mercies of Allah?
Does this not mean that there is NOTHING you can do to earn paradise(even if it is by obeying Allah's commands) ?
2. Is it untrue that Allah's destiny Al-Qadr is what determine whether you enter Al-Janna or not
3. What do you think a man can to to erase his sin of violation of the Kufayakun of God?
4. Why do you think the God of Abraham and Moses instituted the ordinance of Animal sacrifice?

Finally,
If God gave you a ransome for your sin through the slaughter of the sinless Messiah, can you choose your own alternative to God's commands?

The Message : (Belive on the Lord Jesus atonement on the Cross )
This was God's solution to the problem of hell?
Follow it and you will be saved

Believing in the SOLUTION of God is what saves you sir.

honesttalk21:
5. God is a Spirit:
In Islam, the concept of the spirit is closely tied to the belief in the unity and transcendence of God. The Quran portrays God as the creator of everything, including the human spirit. According to Islamic teachings, Allah uniquely breathed His spirit into Adam, the progenitor of humanity, giving mankind a special connection to the divine (Quran 15:29)

It is believed that Allah breathed his spirit into Adam, the first human being, giving him life and knowledge.

﴿وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَاكُمْ ثُمَّ صَوَّرْنَاكُمْ ثُمَّ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ لَمْ يَكُن مِّنَ السَّاجِدِينَ﴾
[ الأعراف: 11]


7:11 And surely, We created you (your father Adam) and then gave you shape (the noble shape of a human being); then We told the angels, "Prostrate yourselves to Adam", and they prostrated themselves, except Iblis (Satan), he refused to be of those who prostrated themselves.


Had a discussion based on this translation of the meaning. Was man first created before given form? If this is so what is it that was first created? Could this be the Spirit?

Should you doubt then consider when Allah drew the spirit of all mankind from Adam a.s and they all testified that there was no god but Allah (nothing worthy of worship except Allah)

Al-A'raf 7:172

وَإِذْ أَخَذَ رَبُّكَ مِنۢ بَنِىٓ ءَادَمَ مِن ظُهُورِهِمْ ذُرِّيَّتَهُمْ وَأَشْهَدَهُمْ عَلَىٰٓ أَنفُسِهِمْ أَلَسْتُ بِرَبِّكُمْۖ قَالُوا۟ بَلَىٰۛ شَهِدْنَآۛ أَن تَقُولُوا۟ يَوْمَ ٱلْقِيَٰمَةِ إِنَّا كُنَّا عَنْ هَٰذَا غَٰفِلِينَ

English - Sahih International

And [mention] when your Lord took from the children of Adam - from their loins - their descendants and made them testify of themselves, [saying to them], "Am I not your Lord?" They said, "Yes, we have testified." [This] - lest you should say on the Day of Resurrection, "Indeed, we were of this unaware."

So you see the Spirit is a creation of Allah and not Allah.

You said all the general things about the concept of the Spirit in Islam without answering any questions. Your description of what the Spirit is is not coherent.
You said :
the Spirit is a creation of Allah and not Allah
However, you also said :
Allah breathe His Spirit into Adam

1. If Allah breathe his spirit into Adam, then the spirit is an attribute of Allah.
But if the spirit is an attribute of Allah, it cannot be created.
2. There is no single Qur'an or hadith that suggest that the Spirit is created by Allah, perhaps you can find one verse for me.
3. Jibril is acclaimed to be the Holy Spirit (a living being).
Jesus is the spirit from Allah (a living being)
Also. since Jibril is an Angel, then all angels are spirits!

This brings another problem:
There is no where where Allah is adjudged to create the Spirit in Islam.
.
Do you agree that If the spirit is created, then it cannot be of Allah for it comes from within him just like the uncreated Qur'an

honesttalk21:
Regarding the Hadith Mishkat al-Masabih 3525 which states that when engaging in a physical altercation, one must avoid striking the face due to the belief that God created Adam in His own image. This concept of being created in the image of God is rooted in Islamic teachings. However, it is important to understand that this phrase should not be interpreted literally, as God is beyond any physical attributes or limitations. Instead, it symbolizes the unique dignity and significance bestowed upon human beings by their Creator.

Allah is beyond human comprehension and does not resemble anything in creation. Therefore, the idea of God creating humans in His own image is understood metaphorically rather than in a literal sense.

When the Hadith mentions that Adam was created in God's image, it implies that human beings possess qualities such as rationality, moral consciousness, free will, and the capability to recognize and establish a relationship with their Creator. Islam emphasizes that such attributes distinguish humans from other creatures and make them accountable for their actions.

The Quran mentions the creation of Adam and emphasizes his unique status among all creations. However, it is important to note that while humans are considered the noblest of creations, they are distinct from God and do not share His divine attributes.

It be difficult to belive that the hadith is metaphoric and not literal because, if it was a metaphor
1. The instruction would be to not kill a man for he is created in the image of God.
2. There would be no need to compare the height of Adam with resemblance to Allah because We rarely even grow up to 7feet inn height.
3. The paradise of Islam is a physical paradise

I think the embarrassment of the literal meaning is why you want to hide under it being a metaphor but it doesn't fit.

honesttalk21:
The Prophet pbuh seeing and meeting previous prophets pbut is a miraculous physico-spiritual occurrence. The details of how this miracle came to be is beyond the explanation of a magic trick.

Does it mean you NOW subscribe to the Duality of the Prophets?
Can you thus explain: How can TWO be thensamenas ONE One.

If God can make the feeble humans this complex, do you think you can box him into your human understanding?



[quote author=honesttalk21 post=128334713]Allan rose above the heavens and the earth both physically and authoritatively. Allah is above them in his controlling what occurs in them.

Allan coming down to the third heaven is not just a literal statement to be understood as that. It encompasses the special consideration given to those who worship Allah at this time of the night to get their prayers easily accepted, granted and saved for them for the hereafter.

What need does Allah have to enter his creation when all is from Allah?

1. Is it untrue according to your prophet that Allah is above the seventh heaven on his throne?

2. Will you see Allah from the day of resurrection?

3. The Question is not about the need of Allah but the power of Allah! Can Allah enter into his creation. It's a yes or no question?

honesttalk21:
Are Tenq and SirTee15 the same person? A question directed at the latter was jumped at by the former.

Who is slaving to serve who?

Don't be too forward

When you wouldn't ceace being deceptive in order to defend Allah and his prophet Mohammed.


Sahih al-Bukhari 2925
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews until some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O `Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.'"

Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 209
Abu Hurayra reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "None of you should say, 'My slave ('abdi)' or 'my slavegirl (amati)' All of you are slaves of Allah and all of your women are slaves of Allah. Rather you should say, 'My boy (ghulami)', my slavegirl (jariyyati)', 'my lad (fatayi)' or 'my girl (fatati).'"


Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 400
Abu Hurayra reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Do not hate one another nor contend with one another. Slaves of Allah, be brothers."

Sahih al-Bukhari 3445
Narrated `Umar:
I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle."







Is it UNTRUE that:
There are hundreds of Hadiths where both Mohammed and every Muslim is described as the slave of Allah?

You see that with the Truth one is not afraid to say YES or NO: and to answer any questions posed!

honesttalk21:
Yes we have to break up your questions or extra multiple questioning nature. Even a criminal lawyer is learning beside you

Why the silly double standards? Does your Bible say:
Ephesians 2
[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[9] Not of works, lest any man should boast.
[10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Have you not been boasting? Search yourself.

Its not a double standard:
You imply that salvation in Islam is by doing good deeds as prescribed by Allah: this is contrary to the teachings of Islam. Thus my questions! So, apart from your good deeds, what saves you in Islam. For us a s Christians, Jesus saves us: we are not saved by good deeds.

I have not been boasting because it is consistent with everything I've been telling you.
Oh Yes: By Grace we are saved through our Faith in the atonement of Jesus on the Cross. It's not of our works

Eph 2:8-10:
"For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.". For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
In other words,

Our salvation is a gift we received because we have Faith in that which Christ has done for us and as such we cannot boast of our goodness: we received this Gift because we were created (Born Again) in Christ Jesus not by our good deeds

honesttalk21:
Explain the question 3. What do you think a man can to to erase his sin of violation of the Kufayakun of God? as it is unclear.

God's Command, Will and Instruction CANNOT be violated because it would be a violation of the Integrity of God that His words must come to pass.
Human Beings have also been given free will by God so that we can choose to obey or violate God's Command, Will and Instruction.

Thus, SIN is a record that God's Command, Will and Instruction has been violated.

So, the Question is : In Islam, how can Sin or violation of God's Command, Will and Instruction be Erazed after it is committed?

honesttalk21:
Did God of Abraham and Moses institute the ordinance of Animal sacrifice? Where and how? Is this what your Bible says?

Adam:
Gen 3:21: "To Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them."


Cain and Abel:
Gen 4:4-5: "And Abel, he also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect to Abel and to his offering: But to Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell."

Abraham :
Gen 15:9-10: "And he (God) said to him (Abraham) , Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon. And he took to him all these, and divided them in the middle, and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not."

Gen 22:2: "And he (God) said (to Abraham), Take now your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and get you into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering on one of the mountains which I will tell you of."

Moses:
Exo 12:5-7: "Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: you shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats: And you shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening. And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it."

Lev 8:1-2: "And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, Take Aaron and his sons with him, and the garments, and the anointing oil, and a bullock for the sin offering, and two rams, and a basket of unleavened bread;"

honesttalk21:
Was Jesus slaughtered as sacrifice or sentenced to death by man under man's law? There is a big difference isn't it?

I used the word Slaughtered to mean Kill.

It doesnt matter the means that God used to cause the death of Jesus the Messiah by shedding of his blood.

According to prophecy:

Isa 53:10:
"Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him (the Messiah) ; he has put him to grief: when you shall make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand."

Isa 53:12:
"Therefore will I divide him (the Messiah) a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he has poured out his soul to death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors."


Now you see how easily it is to answer questions regarding to scriptures. The same Questions I asked you.

You said:

honesttalk21:

4. Solution
The following of the solution you claim is different from that before and after Jesus? What exactly is the solution other than following and adhering to the word and guidance of the almighty God.

This is believing in God as the one, sole, almighty incomparable that does all things. Engaging in acts of truth and justice according to his directions.

The bolded and underlined is against your religion, thus I asked you
1. Is it true that your prophet says your good deeds and Iman cannot guarantee you paradise except by the mercies of Allah?
Does this not mean that there is NOTHING you can do to earn paradise(even if it is by obeying Allah's commands) ?
2. Is it untrue that Allah's destiny Al-Qadr is what determine whether you enter Al-Janna or not
3. What do you think a man can to to erase his sin of violation of the Kufayakun of God?
4. Why do you think the God of Abraham and Moses instituted the ordinance of Animal sacrifice?

Finally,
If God gave you a ransome for your sin through the slaughter shedding of blood and death of the sinless Messiah, can you choose your own alternative to God's commands?

Expanse2020:
Other like Moses 🤣🤣🤣🤣 the same Spirit Jesus call to save him but fail to help me...but paiying on the Cross 🤣🤣🤣🤣 according to the bible

You forget that according to Allah, he helped Jesus but failed to help Mohammed when he was weeping in distress due to the pain from the poison! .

Unfortunately, the date fruit that can cure any illness or disease couldn't save your prophet from both back magic and death by poison.

Expanse2020:
Other like Moses 🤣🤣🤣🤣 the same Spirit Jesus call to save him but fail to help me...but paiying on the Cross 🤣🤣🤣🤣 according to the bible

You ignorantly do not know that God does Not force ANYONE against his will.

Samson was given warnings and he violated them. He suffered for the cause of his disobedience even though he finally repented

Expanse2020:
No body tell you or affirm it for you that Dhul qarnayn is a prophet

If you didn't mention him, I would not have known. Therefore

Is the the South Arabian Himyarite king al-Ṣaʿb bin Dhī Marāthid a prophet of Allah?

It's a Yes or No Question!

Expanse2020:
We have given many verses which your Sciencetist later come out after 1000 years to proves that is 100% correct., and if you think is not correct you your bible that holy spirit wrote to debunk any of it...
Senior M.U.M.U

Yes, Like the sun setting in the murky waters!
LOL!

Expanse2020:
I asked you to pin point one person that Married 6 years kid and Divorce her since you are hammering it at least 3years to 13 years were married in the bible

You don't realize that contemporary Muslims are even better in ethics than their prophet?

honesttalk21:
4. Solution
The following of the solution you claim is different from that before and after Jesus? What exactly is the solution other than following and adhering to the word and guidance of the almighty God.

This is believing in God as the one, sole, almighty incomparable that does all things. Engaging in acts of truth and justice according to his directions.

1. Is it true that your prophet says your good deeds and Iman cannot guarantee you paradise except by the mercies of Allah?
Does this not mean that there is NOTHING you can do to earn paradise(even if it is by obeying Allah's commands) ?
2. Is it untrue that Allah's destiny Al-Qadr is what determine whether you enter Al-Janna or not
3. What do you think a man can to to erase his sin of violation of the Kufayakun of God?
4. Why do you think the God of Abraham and Moses instituted the ordinance of Animal sacrifice?

Finally,
If God gave you a ransome for your sin through the slaughter of the sinless Messiah, can you choose your own alternative to God's commands?

The Message : (Belive on the Lord Jesus atonement on the Cross )
This was God's solution to the problem of hell?
Follow it and you will be saved

Believing in the SOLUTION of God is what saves you sir.

honesttalk21:
5. God is a Spirit:
In Islam, the concept of the spirit is closely tied to the belief in the unity and transcendence of God. The Quran portrays God as the creator of everything, including the human spirit. According to Islamic teachings, Allah uniquely breathed His spirit into Adam, the progenitor of humanity, giving mankind a special connection to the divine (Quran 15:29)

It is believed that Allah breathed his spirit into Adam, the first human being, giving him life and knowledge.

﴿وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَاكُمْ ثُمَّ صَوَّرْنَاكُمْ ثُمَّ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ لَمْ يَكُن مِّنَ السَّاجِدِينَ﴾
[ الأعراف: 11]


7:11 And surely, We created you (your father Adam) and then gave you shape (the noble shape of a human being); then We told the angels, "Prostrate yourselves to Adam", and they prostrated themselves, except Iblis (Satan), he refused to be of those who prostrated themselves.


Had a discussion based on this translation of the meaning. Was man first created before given form? If this is so what is it that was first created? Could this be the Spirit?

Should you doubt then consider when Allah drew the spirit of all mankind from Adam a.s and they all testified that there was no god but Allah (nothing worthy of worship except Allah)

Al-A'raf 7:172

وَإِذْ أَخَذَ رَبُّكَ مِنۢ بَنِىٓ ءَادَمَ مِن ظُهُورِهِمْ ذُرِّيَّتَهُمْ وَأَشْهَدَهُمْ عَلَىٰٓ أَنفُسِهِمْ أَلَسْتُ بِرَبِّكُمْۖ قَالُوا۟ بَلَىٰۛ شَهِدْنَآۛ أَن تَقُولُوا۟ يَوْمَ ٱلْقِيَٰمَةِ إِنَّا كُنَّا عَنْ هَٰذَا غَٰفِلِينَ

English - Sahih International

And [mention] when your Lord took from the children of Adam - from their loins - their descendants and made them testify of themselves, [saying to them], "Am I not your Lord?" They said, "Yes, we have testified." [This] - lest you should say on the Day of Resurrection, "Indeed, we were of this unaware."

So you see the Spirit is a creation of Allah and not Allah.

You said all the general things about the concept of the Spirit in Islam without answering any questions. Your description of what the Spirit is is not coherent.
You said :
the Spirit is a creation of Allah and not Allah
However, you also said :
Allah breathe His Spirit into Adam

1. If Allah breathe his spirit into Adam, then the spirit is an attribute of Allah.
But if the spirit is an attribute of Allah, it cannot be created.
2. There is no single Qur'an or hadith that suggest that the Spirit is created by Allah, perhaps you can find one verse for me.
3. Jibril is acclaimed to be the Holy Spirit (a living being).
Jesus is the spirit from Allah (a living being)
Also. since Jibril is an Angel, then all angels are spirits!

This brings another problem:
There is no where where Allah is adjudged to create the Spirit in Islam.
.
Do you agree that If the spirit is created, then it cannot be of Allah for it comes from within him just like the uncreated Qur'an

honesttalk21:
Regarding the Hadith Mishkat al-Masabih 3525 which states that when engaging in a physical altercation, one must avoid striking the face due to the belief that God created Adam in His own image. This concept of being created in the image of God is rooted in Islamic teachings. However, it is important to understand that this phrase should not be interpreted literally, as God is beyond any physical attributes or limitations. Instead, it symbolizes the unique dignity and significance bestowed upon human beings by their Creator.

Allah is beyond human comprehension and does not resemble anything in creation. Therefore, the idea of God creating humans in His own image is understood metaphorically rather than in a literal sense.

When the Hadith mentions that Adam was created in God's image, it implies that human beings possess qualities such as rationality, moral consciousness, free will, and the capability to recognize and establish a relationship with their Creator. Islam emphasizes that such attributes distinguish humans from other creatures and make them accountable for their actions.

The Quran mentions the creation of Adam and emphasizes his unique status among all creations. However, it is important to note that while humans are considered the noblest of creations, they are distinct from God and do not share His divine attributes.

It be difficult to belive that the hadith is metaphoric and not literal because, if it was a metaphor
1. The instruction would be to not kill a man for he is created in the image of God.
2. There would be no need to compare the height of Adam with resemblance to Allah because We rarely even grow up to 7feet inn height.
3. The paradise of Islam is a physical paradise

I think the embarrassment of the literal meaning is why you want to hide under it being a metaphor but it doesn't fit.

honesttalk21:
The Prophet pbuh seeing and meeting previous prophets pbut is a miraculous physico-spiritual occurrence. The details of how this miracle came to be is beyond the explanation of a magic trick.

Does it mean you NOW subscribe to the Duality of the Prophets?
Can you thus explain: How can TWO be thensamenas ONE One.

If God can make the feeble humans this complex, do you think you can box him into your human understanding?



[quote author=honesttalk21 post=128334713]Allan rose above the heavens and the earth both physically and authoritatively. Allah is above them in his controlling what occurs in them.

Allan coming down to the third heaven is not just a literal statement to be understood as that. It encompasses the special consideration given to those who worship Allah at this time of the night to get their prayers easily accepted, granted and saved for them for the hereafter.

What need does Allah have to enter his creation when all is from Allah?

1. Is it untrue according to your prophet that Allah is above the seventh heaven on his throne?

2. Will you see Allah from the day of resurrection?

3. The Question is not about the need of Allah but the power of Allah! Can Allah enter into his creation. It's a yes or no question?

AntiChristian:
Not different from Hausa Christians!

The name of your Deity is Allah and not Yahweh!


The name of the Deity of the Hausa Christians is Yahweh!
Sorry!

AntiChristian:
The tafsirs you quoted in half guessed the probable people and it wasn't only Paul that was mentioned!

Others were mentioned separately. Do they also have books in the Bible they wrote?

Nothing is even definite from those tafsirs you quoted in half!

Stop quoting texts from the middle to justify your falsehood. Follow the context!

I normally quote the full text except that I. this case, it was long and secondly, I emphasised the part of interest. The reference was quoted for you to confirm.

Yes sir. Islamic Dawah has misled you to think that only Paul wrote the New Testament.

Simon Peter (Sham'un) and John (Yuhanna).

Simon Peter (Sham'un) wrote : the book of 1Peters and 2Peters


John (Yuhanna) wrote : the book of 1 John , 2 John, 3Johm and Revelation

AntiChristian:
Tell that to ge Hausa Christians that the Allah in their Bible....

Its YOUR Allah!
Check!

Expanse2020:
Thank God you said the truth that the Jews came to meet prophet S.A.W. to know is Dhul qarnayn (to test him )and the ayat explain briefly to them what they want to know..

But if you said based on historian
Dhul qarnayn was equate to be two people according to the historian
One is Alexander the Great that historian also said in travel vast across the end of south,east, north and also possessed a cap of this two horn...but some Muslim elders said Alexander does not leave up to 700years so it may not be him
The second one is the South Arabian Himyarite king al-Ṣaʿb bin Dhī Marāthid who marched the historical value possessed such ability..
Allah know best.

Is the the South Arabian Himyarite king al-Ṣaʿb bin Dhī Marāthid a prophet of Allah?

honesttalk21:
Please share. I really want to know who the different persons are.

Exactly as predicted.


Funny you make a force about Maryam being of the tribe of Imran and a sister (not literally or directly) of Aaron when the child of this Maryam is not your Jesus?

Is this inconsistence?

Jesus was crucified by the Romans with the support of the Jews.

Isa was not crucified, neither did he die.

These are historical differences

honesttalk21:
www.sunnah.com is the best source of translations? Really now!

The English translation of the Arabic phrase “عَبْدُ ٱللَّهِ” can be understood in various ways depending on the context it is used in. However, the most common meanings are:

Servant of Allah: This is the most direct translation of the phrase. It refers to a person who dedicates their life to serving and worshipping Allah, the one and only God in Islam.

Slave of Allah: Similar to the first meaning, this translation also emphasizes the complete submission and devotion of an individual to Allah.

Devoted to Allah: This translation highlights the strong emotional connection and commitment a person has towards Allah, indicating that their life revolves around their faith and devotion.


Worshiper of Allah: This meaning focuses on the act of worshipping Allah, implying that the person is constantly engaged in practices and rituals that honor and revere God.


God-fearing person: This translation emphasizes the fear and respect a person has for Allah, which leads them to live a righteous and virtuous life.

Is it better to be a slave of Allah or a slave of a man or any other thing he created.

In hindsight now it seems I missed one reply.

I can see that your Arabic language comprehension is far better than your scholars who translated your hadiths.

You want to deny them too?

If they translated rubbish, why don't you object to their translations?