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Expanse2020:
Not the evidence I show before that it was 450 pages the man summited and called Quran...
Quran itself is more than 1500 pages ..
You people are jokers


Someone translated the first and half of second Surat called it Quran..
It not up to two hisbu self ..
Abegii

You think they can reduced Quran like they did in the bible... Quran is 100% protect by Allah

Go and debate on your 66, 76 and 83 books and so on😂🤣🤣🤣

Repeating yourself with no evidence amounts to NOTHING sir.

[quote author=Expanse2020 post=140227430][/quote]Then the Question is
Did Bishop Michael Samuel Cole Partially translated the Qur'an into YORUBA in the year1906?


Muslim scholars hate his translation because
1. He was a Christian (how can he know enough Tafsirs to translate the Qur'an)
2. He did not put beside the Yoruba texts the Arabic (like almost all he English translations of the Qur'an)
3. Omission of the Preface (1924 Edition): In his original 1906 print, Cole included a highly controversial, polemical 14-page preface comparing Christianity and Islam. When the Church Missionary Society (CMS) republished the book in 1924, this preface was completely dropped.

The second question you should ask AI is
1. Which Surah of the Qur'an was omitted in Bishop Michael Samuel Cole's translation of the Qur'an?

OR

2. Which Ayah of the Qur'an was omitted in Bishop Michael Samuel Cole's translation of the Qur'an?


So, dont be emotional about this and admit the truth

MaxInDHouse:
It's not just about READING but STUDYING the Bible to know exactly what happened back then.
Each disciple follow the command from Jesus who ordered them to go and meet people at home {Matthew 10:11-13} and it's only those who welcome their message that is the meaning of lost sheep of the the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} these are people who wants to be guided regarding the truth not stiff-necked religionists who already concluded in their minds that they won't listen.



Interpretation may mislead you so try to compare with other versions and see how each verse is rendered:

He (Apollos) began to speak boldly in the synagogue, and when Pris·cilʹla and Aqʹui·la heard him, they took him into their company and explained the way of God more accurately to him. Act 18:26
Apollos surely had the zeal but not the way Jesus taught his disciples to carry out the preaching and teaching work so Priscilla and Aquila corrected him.
Today some churchgoers are zealous to do the work of evangelizers but they are not trained on how to do the work.
See my brothers who has been arrested in their own countries for talking to their friends about God's Kingdom!

As you can clearly see,
Stephen is different from you
Apollo is different from you
Paul is also different from you

Acts 9:29:
"He talked and debated with the Grecian Jews , but they tried to kill him."

Acts 19:8 (In Ephesus)
"Paul entered the synagogue and spoke boldly there for three months, arguing persuasively about the kingdom of God."


So, you see that you are different from the servants of Jesus Christ

MaxInDHouse:
Read over and over Stephen did not go to engage them in an argument rather they came to where he was teaching to contradict him before those listening just as they did to Jesus.
Note that Jesus never purposely engage Pharisees in any argument it was while he was preaching and teaching his audience that they will come to contradict his teachings.
So that man was wrong to have engaged Muslims in an argument.
Are there no reputable men of God in that place?
The young man took it upon himself to challenge them instead of minding his own business which supposed to be the usual preaching and teaching those who wants to listen to him!😟

All I could see was that Stephen did not reply the Jews one bit as he didnt want to debate them. Thus Stephen was Quiets throughout the monologue
And Stephen invited them for bible studies (in their homes) while asking them to buy his religious pamphlets.
SHM!!


I am sure you also havent read about Appolos

Acts 18:28
"For he vigorously refuted his Jewish opponents in public debate, proving from the Scriptures that Jesus was the Messiah."

NWT
"for with intensity he thoroughly proved the Jews to be wrong publicly, while he demonstrated by the Scriptures that Jesus was the Christ."

You are certainly different from the disciples of Jesus!

MaxInDHouse:
According to the scriptures did Stephen purposely engage them in an argument or they trailed him while he was in the ministry just as they did to Jesus?🤔

Read Acts 6:9-10

MaxInDHouse:
Then they secretly persuaded men to say: “We have heard him speaking blasphemous things against Moses and God.” And they stirred up the people, the elders, and the scribes, and coming upon him suddenly, they forcibly seized him and led him to the Sanʹhe·drin. And they brought forward false witnesses, who said: “This man does not stop speaking things against this holy place and against the Law. For instance, we have heard him say that this Jesus the Naz·a·reneʹ will throw down this place and change the customs that Moses handed down to us.” Act 6:11-14
Stephen was accused, arrested and dragged to the public square for execution that is why he used the last minute to express himself.
Back then Christians won't argue with Judaists because they are ready to kill them at sight on the spot unless Roman soldiers are around to protect the believer.
So stop deceiving yourself the act of arguing publicly with radical Muslims is UNSCRIPTURAL!

Your argument was akin to Why would Stephen argue or dispute with the Jews


You probably didn't read this
Acts 6:9:
"Then there arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia and of Asia, disputing with Stephen."

Stephen won the Debate outstandingly that the Jews were moved to violence

Acts 6:10:
"And they were not able to resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he spoke."


And just like your kinsmen, they incited violence against Stephen

Acts 6:12:
"And they stirred up the people, and the elders, and the scribes, and came on him, and caught him, and brought him to the council,"



The same crime you accused this young preacher of doing. Read your bible and let the fruit of Christ manifest in you.

Mar 9:39-40:
"But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part."

Expanse2020:
So translating a exercise book is an archivment of Christianity too where he did accurate job or not
Wahala ..
How do you guys reason
Someone translated over 1000 pages to 450 pages ..

You claimed it a Quran 😂😂😂
Did they asked him to summarized it .
It taught he can do it the way they removed, edit bible from several books down to 88 down to 76 down to 66🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No Yu can't even try to change a verse from Quran that we will not know .,


He summarize it that why when it got to Muslims council they hard asked Saudi for help to write it the way it is and produce he right one our..
The west try but they failed just the way they always failed against islam

Repeating the same claims without evidence amounts to NOTHING but mere WISHING.

Please kindly show us
1. The exercise book that was translated
2. Show us how a blank exercise book can be translated and how it can be called the Qur'an

https://doi.org/10.3366/jqs.2015.0210

MaxInDHouse:
Why arguing publicly with Muslims nah?😟
If Islam truly has what to convince their listeners would they have resulted to violence?
Well the guy just lost his life for lacking in wisdom:

Beginning a fight is like opening a floodgate; Before the quarrel breaks out, take your leave. Proverbs 17:14

By your fruit you are identified.
You condemn Stephen for being stoned to death for preaching openly to the Jews like this young 25 year old preacher.

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[quote author=Expanse2020 post=140217556][/quote]An exercise book is a blank ruled book meant for writing things in by students.

Tell me how logical it is according to you for a person acclaimed to translate a blank book
EXCEPT
If the Qur'an is the Exercise book.



I think you cannot bear to think that the oldest translation of the Qur'an into Yoruba or any African languages was done by a CHRISTIAN

Expanse2020:
So check out so of the exercise the acclaimed Christians chief imaam wrote out as al-qur'aan Kareem..
Just a few exercise book
🤣😂😂😂😂
I wish I can the site download the PDf for you here ...
I only have the PDF share by a friend to me ...to exposed you full the exercise book the man wrote call kuran 😂🤣🤣
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+picture+of+the+first+Quran+translated+to+yoruba+language&client=ms-android-transsion&hs=4B2&sca_esv=527b231b6267b91a&aep=1&cs=0&biw=360&bih=704&sxsrf=APpeQnvwR8S-lOoOgGf2idf95TbE2RDF1Q:1785621112336&source=lnms&fbs=ABfTbFVyMZGZf1hfvX9uKjN_-G8c4u0nXx4bEIpwm1lnNH832UV2GkpKEK36HumGR10Evz150YHLBZQrC7jm5_C-J-0f2Q2-5NUPD-TCpE8QyvxVIV0d5c2DoZICef8EYwclZhozbKalyvJ2HZzGh4F1mh9bPaaS6L44p0zs16j_GJXii2ZpWOrKe0qTSNubRZ25hwcxezVAkqiVt24v7EB3iJf-G5wFsA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-seqAtYCWAxVlk_0HHS3ZCyAQ0pQJegQIBxAH

I think your evidence is still supporting that in 1906, a Christian minister translated the Qur'an into YORUBA.

Except you are saying something else that I am not getting.

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Expanse2020:
To that exercise book right 🤣🤣😂😂
Have ever see the exercise book he translated it to before
Chaiii Christianity 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I asked for your EVIDENCE that the Reverend did NOT translate the WHOLE Qur'an and only produced exercise book.

At least I gave you one evidence that you can verify by yourself.

https://share.gemini.google/cR5HSzCpLHq3

cule7:
This is an avoidable casualty. Zelensky should end this war asap

Do you mean
By surrendering to the will of the Armed Robber who invaded the Ukrainian Sovereignty!?

Expanse2020:
Ok
That is the man
Who wrote 20 exercise pages who claimed he translate the noble Quran
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Keferi ma gbiyan yu oo ninu wahala asan oo

It pain Ed you!?
Your evidence please!

https://share.gemini.google/cR5HSzCpLHq3

Rev Cole indeed translated the WHOLE Quran into YORUBA and he was the First to do so

nwakibie3:
Good one


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budaatum:
I do so love what Tinubu said.

My secondary school is better funded now it has been returned to the Baptist Mission and old students are more willing to make it better than when the state occupied it.

These people need to go lobby their state governors!

Vote for Obi!

The problem is that most governors that are Muslims take it as jihad to take away Christian founded schools by every means possible. Kwara state is an example. Kaduna state even renamed all the schools that it had no semblance of being founded by Christians.

This is the problem!

AntiChristian:
Holy Spirit has helped you interpreted that wrongly. Who descended from heaven? Iblis (Satan), Adam and Eve.

I know you love Satan as he's not your enemy!

Descend, all of you [to the earth], as enemies to one another


Adam become enemy to Eve
Eve become enemy to satan
satan become enemy to Adam
Adam become enemy to Satan
satan become enemy to Eve


And this enemity will propagate through their children and grand children. Every one hating the other.


When Allah sent down satan down to the earth (with Adam and Eve) was it a punishment?

Dont forget that the shooting stars were created so that satan and his children will not be able to come near paradise.

AntiChristian:
You are confused.
Hell and Paradise exist but we can't see them Just as we can't see Allah, Jinns or the Angels. Maybe that's what you call "Spiritual" in Christianity.

That still doesn't mean Paradise is not physical.
Hell too will be Physical as criminals will be punished in it and they'll feel the burning pains!

This why Islam is an analogue archaic religion. Everything is seen in the light of the physical.

You do not even know what is meant by SPIRIT in the first place.

There exists two realms of existence
1. Physical Realm and Reality
2. Spiritual Realm and Reality
The Physical realm is a subset of the spiritual realm as a 2D space is a subset of the 3D space.

When your prophet claimed to go to paradise, did he see Adam, Moses, Joseph etc as physical beings or spiritual beings?

AntiChristian:
Mind you, you can describe your God/Jesus according to your Bible or as you like but the next time you call Allah by what He never authentically call Himself, i will stop the conversation with you.

Spirit can mean Soul or mind: The inner part of a person that feels emotions and thinks.Mood or attitude: A specific feeling, energy, or frame of mind (such as being in "high spirits".Group energy: A shared feeling of loyalty or teamwork, like "team spirit".

Spirit can also mean Ghost: A dead person's soul or an unseen supernatural being.

Spirit can also mean Holy Spirit: A divine power or holy presence in religion.

Allah, though unseen, never called Himself a "Spirit".

You are now a specialist in spirit understanding something that Allah and Mohammed couldn't explain

Lecture:
Spirit=Ruh
Soul= Nafs

A Spirit is a non physical Identity and person. Like AIR, you feel him but you dont see him. A spirit realm is a non-physical reality of existence for Spirits.

The Soul is the part of an Identity or Personality that expresses attributes of Will, Emotion and Intellect. Anything that doesn't have NAFS is either an Idol or Plant or Non-living thing.

Of course, Allah never calls himself a spirit nor a soul however he also gave gave attributes to himself like
he has two hands
he has a shin
he has at least two eyes
he seats on his throne with his.....
he has a feet
he has a mouth to blow of his spirit into...

We conclude that either Muslims are ignorant of who truly Allah is or Allah did not tell them who he is.

AntiChristian:
So if i tell you i am going to Abuja and you later saw me in Kogi, would you accuse me of telling lies or grant me the excuse that Kogi is on the way to Abuja?

Please think well before typing.

If I get you correctly, Allah is the source of all the ENMITIES between humans and this was the purpose for which he sent Adam down to the earth


Surah Al-Baqarah (2:36)
–"We said, 'Descend, all of you [to the earth], as enemies to one another. And on the earth you will have a dwelling place and provision for a time.'

"Surah Al-A'araf (7:24) – "124]
He said, 'Descend, being to one another enemies. And for you on the earth is a place of settlement and enjoyment for a time.'

"Surah Ta-Ha (20:123)
"He said, 'Descend from it [Paradise] - all of you - being enemies to one another.'"

This was the purpose of Allah isn't it?

AntiChristian:
What difference does it make whether the clay/mud was from earth, paradise or hell?

Paradise is a physical place in the seventh heaven! Hell is in the lowest level of the earth!

Paradise is a physical space!?

The black stone is physical because it came from paradise.
The Houri are physical!
Meaning that Angels are also physical!
No wonder that Allah is also Physical because he is NOT a spirit!

I am sure you haven't seen the corruption of your messed up understanding of spiritual things.


What then makes Islam spiritual?

AntiChristian:
Yeah! Jesus made a mistake by being God then man then God again!

Allah claimed to create man from clay or mud: Was the clay/mud from earth or from paradise?

Secondly,
Is paradise a physical place ?


Are you tongue tied?

AntiChristian:
No, you don't get me. They will leave earth for their final destination which can either be Hell for those whom Satan has confused and Paradise for those who embrace belief and reject Satan.

I should ask you this.



Allah originally intended to create man on Earth! Is this difficult for you to understand?

So Allah made a mistake to create man in paradise!?


Let me ask you a question as Muslims do not ask themselves critical questions.

Allah claimed to create man from clay or mud: Was the clay/mud from earth or from paradise?

Secondly,
Is paradise a physical place ?

AntiChristian:
No, paradise is the destination of all those who worshipped Allah. Adam and his offspring were to be on earth. So going to earth is going to where they were supposed to be. They will remember Satan as their enemy who would do all it takes to prevent them from paradise.

Where's the deceit and folly?



The world was theirs in the first place. Paradise was just a temporary place for them. Paradise is the actual destination for him and us.

Just because your IQ can't figure out the sense in it doesn't mean there's no sense in it.

I get you.

The place of pain, death and sorrow (Earth) was theirs anyway.

And paradise isnt theirs. So how come after death Adam and his children will leave their true home (earth) permanently for paradise (their temporary home)?

Dont you think At all?
You claim that earth would be the place where they would recognise satan as their enemy who will prevent them from entering paradise conclude on thing: the earth was not the home of man. They were send to the earth as to a prison where they learn that satan was their enemy.

Adam was only sent down to earth either as a reward for their sins to Allah or a result of doing righteous deeds.

Remember that Allah says that if people were not to commit sin, he would destroy them and replace them with people who will commit sin and chant Alahu-Akibar on top.

AntiChristian:
He was sent to earth before he asked for forgiveness.

And earth was better than paradise!?
And after his death, Adam will go back to paradise where he would enjoy endless House parties with the Houris. He would never even die in paradise!

How these people decieve and fool themselves!

Was being sent to the world a reward for their sin that Allah wrote for Adam 40 years before he was created!?

So, you see that your answer was not with any common sense.

adenigga:
Nigeria’s Islamic scholar, Sheikh Ahmad Gumi has criticised Burkina Faso’s military leader, Captain Ibrahim Traoré, over his position on Sharia and governance.

In a post on his Facebook page on Saturday, Gumi described Traoré as too young and inexperienced.

He further said that the Burkina Faso’s leader is very naive to fully understand the complexities surrounding religion, society and global politics.

According to him, Traoré’s approach could create opportunities for extremist groups to exploit public sentiment and attract more supporters.

He warned that leadership decisions require a deeper understanding of social and geopolitical realities.

“Captain Ibrahim Traoré (born 14 March 1988), with his anti-Shariah stance, at the age of 38, with nothing but military training on his resume, is too naive to understand even the complicity of the society he is ruling under the gun, let alone the dynamics of contemporary geopolitics.

“He has given the extremists the weapon they need to conscript more foot soldiers against his secular regime,” Gumi said.

Source: https://dailypost.ng/2026/07/25/hes-too-young-to-challenge-sharia-law-sheikh-gumi-blasts-burkina-fasos-traore

Of course, Taure will not understand anything until he is 78 year old

And these extremists who would Attack the region would be as usual MUSLIMS!

Why are these people this VIOLENT!

AntiChristian:
But Adam was forgiven in the same Qur'an. The offspring of Adam need not inherit any sin they never committed. That's fairness and justice!

Exactly,
Forgiven but still punished isn't it?


Talk is cheap!
So, why forgive but still punish?
Isn't forgiveness enough?

adenigga:
Source: https://dailypost.ng/2026/07/25/bus-preaching-distracts-drivers-can-lead-to-breach-of-peace-muric-backs-frsc-bill

But praying on the main road is Halal!?

Satanists!!!!

AntiChristian:
I am lying. Tell us what was David's punishment for killing Uriah? For Adultery? For Covetousness?

Nineveh was warned and they changed. They were forgiven without anyone dying for them.

Why can't Adam be warned too so he can ask for forgiveness?

Ignoramus Questions:
You forgot that in your Qur'an, Adam ate of the Tree and was chased out of paradise! Qur'an 20:121–123 and Qur'an 7:22–25

Was it judgement after forgiveness?

AntiChristian:
I don't use bead too. Using bead is not a pillar of Islam. Beads are used for counting and i do count with my fingers. Hence, it's not necessary!

Beads are not traceable to the Prophet of Islam. So all these are just rants!

Your prayer beads are used by Sunni Muslims, if you choose not to be part of it is not consequential. Did your prophet tell you to use kettle for praying? No!
Own up, Muslims use the prayer bead as their cousin Buhdishists!

AntiChristian:
Yeah, they read the Qur'an too.

Because Muslims are Buddhists too. Birds of the same feathers sharing the same father.

AntiChristian:
It's none of my business o. My business is that your God needs blood to forgive sins. But blood no dey inside coal to forgive Isaiah's sin.

Then one of the seraphim flew to me, and in his hand was a glowing coal that he had taken with tongs from the altar. And with it he touched my mouth and said: “Now that this has touched your lips, your iniquity is removed and your sin is atoned for.”

The atonement of Isaiah's sin was as a result of his lips touching that coal.

Any other thing na lie from hell!

Unfortunately, peddling deliberate or willful IGNORANCE doesn't help your case at all. Islam doesn't even have the foggiest understanding of why sacrifice was instituted for man.

Can you kindly explain why Allah need blood from the two sons of Adam Qur'an 5:27 . Can you explain why Abraham was ordered to sacrifice his son for Allah Qur'an 37:102–107 .

They said: "You got no answer except to bleat about like Ileya sacrifice!"

If your Allah do not need blood to forgive, why does he use INNOCENT Christians and Jews as RANSOM for your Muslims? Riyad as-Salihin 432

AntiChristian:
1. You mean Jesus copied the Buddhist too? Buddha was said to live about 500 years before Jesus.

1. Did Jesus ever use prayer beads? No!
Only Muslims and Buhdishists use prayer beads as shown.
2. These Buddhists definitely look like Muslims or is it that Muslims are Buddhists in disguise.

AntiChristian:
2. How was Isaiah's sin forgiven in the Bible? He kissed coal.

Prophet Isaiah who had a coal touched to his lips to have his sin forgiven. According to Isaiah 6:6-7, one of the seraphim flew to Isaiah with a burning coal taken from the altar, touched it to his lips, and said, "Now your guilt is removed, and your sins are forgiven." This act symbolized the purification and forgiveness of Isaiah's sins.

Ignorance plus Arrogance!

They said to the Mallam "See the one who is calmly ignorant and painfully doesn't even know it."

1. Did the Seraphim touch Isaiah with a physical coal or Isaiah was in a vision?
You might want to tell us if the coal was from mahogany or iroko tree! SMH!!
2. Did Isaiah take the coal to touch his own mouth or it was the angel that did so?
3. If the Seraphim under instructions had touched Isaiah, would it be his hands that forgave the sins?

Doubled Ignorance plus Arrogance raise to power infinity! caused by daily Islamabad of the skull of a man from Jankata.

Justify the idolatry of kissing a stone in order to have one's sins erased. Only God forgives sins isn't it? So, tell me why a rock domiciled in the place of a cube erases sins?


I don't bow down to any cube in prayer
I don't kiss any stone to erase my sins.
I am not joining you for orgies and drunken revelries at the end of this age.

And definitely I am not entering hell fire according to your God who says "Buddhists/Islamabad" cannot escape the FIRE!



Why did your prophet kiss the black stone?

AntiChristian:
We have told you Jesus too copied our daily Islamabad head on the ground in Matthew! No need to mention that again!

You mean you copied the Buddhists Islamabad complete with prayer beads!!

Sorry!
I don't kiss stones so that my sins can be erased by it. I don't bow down to the black cube.