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gaskiyamagana:
Who will answer a drowning adventurer in the red sea of knowledge he arrogantly jumped into?

I wish at least one of you would attempt to answer the questions given.

satmaniac:

Who deleted the verse of breastfeeding of adult men from the Quran of Allah?

No one has been able to answer the question.

MightySparrow:
Paradise of body houses, strippers and runs houris. Their toto go hear am.

Mohammed told that that Allah will give every Muslim man the power of ONE HUNDRED men.

There is no buran tashi, viagra or alomo that can do that for anyone on earth o!

It is devine empowerment by Allah!

Jesus said:

There is a way that looks RIGHT to a man, BUT the End is Destruction.

This is more true of Islam.

The way seems right, but the end of it is destruction.
I wish you Muslims salvation: it has been given Freely by God through His Messiah!

I beg of you to listen to your Conscience.

gaskiyamagana:
If you have no SWORD, sell your cloak and buy one.

Since that time the Disciples of Jesus had been fighting and killing people with the sword: is this what you believe is true or something you want to just argue about?
SMH!

gaskiyamagana:
Doctorate Thesis
Department of Islamisguidance
Christian University of Islamic Studies
NairaLand Study Campus.

The problem we are having is simple.

Islam has a standard narrative it has promoted over years. Unfortunately, these Narratives have been found to be fabrications and wishful thinking at best.

Now, enter the age of information : the standard narratives break down and Muslims have zero answer.

Note:
I love you Muslims but I despise everything that deceives people to the fire of hell using the name of God.
God made a way of Salvation for you. Someone came and created his own way and called it Islam to lead people to hell.

Why don't you study the Messiah and ask Questions about Him?
In Him is the key to Paradise!

gaskiyamagana:
Course Code: CIS 000
Course Title: Christian Invented Qur'an
Lecturer : TenQ
Students: The Gullible & Brain Washed Christians.

Too bad my friend!

You know very well that I speak the truth as recorded in your literatures.

The only difference between us is while me, I ask question about faith, you do not ask questions.

I passionately ask you to ask questions about the Messiah!
In the Messiah is they key of Paradise : I want you to ask Questions about Him. You will find salvation for your soul

I care about you my friend. It is impossible for me to hate Muslims

Jesus said:

There is a way that looks RIGHT to a man, BUT the End is Destruction.

This is more true of Islam.

The way seems right, but the end of it is destruction.
I wish you Muslims salvation: it has been given Freely by God through His Messiah!

I beg of you to listen to your Conscience.

rolams:
I just dey laugh you walahi. I don't just know why? Serious laugh oooo! Your head go push you go challenge scholars who get your time soon.

Aren't you a scholar?

The questions were direct with the basis of the questions included.


My Questions:
1. Let's assume that Allah later abrogated this law: Why did Allah put in his Quran the verse of breastfeeding grown up adult males?

2. There are many verses that are abrogated in the Quran but is in the present Quran: why was the verse on breastfeeding an Adult ten times deleted from the Quran?

3. Since it wasn't Mohammed that deleted the verse of stoning and breastfeeding in RECITATION of the Quran, who deleted the verse from the Quran?

I wouldn't mind if you can call a scholar on Nairaland to help answer the questions!

I guess I should get a piece on these special creatures of Allah.

I am getting speeches at the silence!

Is this an admission of guilt?

MightySparrow:
Cowbell our milk religion.

I forgot. Practice for how to be suckled by the wide eyed big breasted transparent perpetual virgins.

Khai!
What a paradise!

The two other Questions


A. What are Islamic Clerics hiding from the Original and Printed Arabic Qur'an that they were abandoned for a Recitation (not writing of Hafs a man attested to be a liar)?

B. Where is the Qur'an of Mohammed?

The Third Question


My Questions:

3. Since it wasn't Mohammed that deleted the verse of stoning and breastfeeding in RECITATION of the Quran, who deleted the verse from the Quran?

The second Question!



My Questions:

2. There are many verses that are abrogated in the Quran but is in the present Quran: why was the verse on breastfeeding an Adult ten times deleted from the Quran?

The Questions one at a time in case it is overwhelming


My Questions:
1. Let's assume that Allah later abrogated this law: Why did Allah put in his Quran the verse of breastfeeding grown up adult males?

honesttalk21:
During the Riddah wars many of the Sahabah who had memorized the Quran were killed, and Abu Bakr was afraid that the Quran would be lost. So he consulted the senior Sahabah about compiling the Quran in a single book so that it would remain preserved and would not be lost. He entrusted this mission to the chief of memorizers Zayd ibn Thabit (may Allah be pleased with him). Al-Bukhari narrated in his Saheeh (4986)

Caliph Abu Bakr collected the Qur'an and wrote it in pamphlets and books in all its seven letters (the seven i.e. ways in which the Qur'an was revealed and which conform to the seven dialects of the Arabs at that time). The seven Ahrufs.

Uthman, the third caliph, recognized the potential for different dialects and variations in the Quranic recitations to create confusion.
To establish uniformity, he appointed a committee chaired by Zaid ibn Thabit to produce a standardized version of the Quran.

Uthman's recognition also followed from Hudhayfah's observations.
Ḥudhayfah was afraid of the differences in the recitation of the Qur’an, so he said to ʿUthmān, “O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book [Qur’an] as Jews and the Christians did before.” Bukhari 4988.

Mu’awiyah ibn Abi Sufyan, who was the governor of Syria during Uthman's caliphate. Mu'awiyah played a crucial role in the distribution of standardized copies of the Quran. He ensured that accurate copies of the Quran were sent to major cities and regions under his rule, thereby ensuring the spread of the authentic Islamic scripture.

Note that in both Abu Bakr and Uthman's compillation of the Quran, Zaid ibn Thabit chaired the Quran writing commitees.

At the back of a Warsh Quran you will likely find"the riwaya of Imam Warsh from Nafi' al-Madini from Abu Ja'far Yazid ibn al-Qa'qa' from 'Abdullah ibn 'Abbas from Ubayy ibn Ka'b from the Messenger of Allah. This shows the line of transmission. Similarly for the Hafs Quran you find the "riwaya of Hafs ibn Sulayman ibn al-Mughira al-Asadi al-Kufi of the qira'a of 'Asim ibn Abi'n-Nujud al-Kufi from Abu 'Abdu'r-Rahman 'Abdullah ibn Habib as-Sulami from 'Uthman ibn 'Affan and 'Ali ibn Abi Talib and Zayd ibn Thabit and Ubayy ibn Ka'b from the Prophet".

In both cases you see clear transmission lines leading back to the Prophet with Ubayy ibn Ka'b being the first link to the one pbuh through which the Quran was revealed to man.

In Turkey at the Topkapı Palace and the Museum of Turkish-Islamic Arts in Istanbul, there are mushafs from Uthman and Ali's period. One of them was handwritten by Uthman, and the other two by Ali.

While the copy in Egypt was in the Mosque of Amr ibn al-Aas, it was presented to Ottoman Sultan Selim II and brought to Topkapı Palace after the conquest of Egypt.

Some claim that this is in fact the copy from Medina and that the last survivor of the Abbasid family took it with him while escaping to Egypt from the Mongol massacre. It is said that due to a blood-like stain on it, this is the mushaf that Uthman read while he was martyred.

Other mushafs belonging to the first period of Islam are displayed in Al-Hussein Mosque in Cairo, the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris, the British Library in London, Hast Imam Library in Tashkent and other museums.

A newly opened museum in Mecca also features verses of the Quran written on bones and stones. The verses written on rocks and stones in the seventh century in Arabia have also survived to the present day.

Which one is more reliable Qur'an?
1. The Printed Quran
2. The Recited Qur'an?

Which of the following is prone to errors?
1. The Printed Quran
2. The Recited Qur'an?

Them were are the printed copies of Abu Bakr's Qur'an or Uthman's Qur'an?

Why would someone refuse to use the codex officially corrected for distribution and circulation for a Recitation that came 150 years plus after the death of Mohammed?

There seem to be no explanation for this except if a major revision was to be made in the original Qur'an

Dear rolams,
Is the post here also without understanding?

These question ls are to aid my understanding. The basis is on page 1 second post.

My Questions:
1. Let's assume that Allah later abrogated this law: Why did Allah put in his Quran the verse of breastfeeding grown up adult males?

2. There are many verses that are abrogated in the Quran but is in the present Quran: why was the verse on breastfeeding an Adult ten times deleted from the Quran?

3. Since it wasn't Mohammed that deleted the verse of stoning and breastfeeding in RECITATION of the Quran, who deleted the verse from the Quran?


In case you case about my Evidences and reasons for my questions, here is the link below :

https://www.nairaland.com/7779603/deleted-verse-perfectly-preserved-quran#124682608

ANTIlSLAM:
You people should come out and defend allah, don't just be fighting for him only

They would not come out on this simply because the evidence is OVERWHELMING!

A Muslim is one who lives by the mantra :
Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my mind!

The Truth is haunting them but they would rather hold on to their standard Islamic Narrative that holds no water

rolams:
There are so many reasons I don't like to reply you but the biggest reason is your lack of knowledge about what you are writing.

You just go and copy a message from somewhere and post it here like your master Izang and others.

1. I almost converted to Islam years ago in the University: I understand perfectly your religion.
2. If you think I am copying from one website or another, you can easily find it out can't you? Sorry, I don't do copy-paste!
3. Can you say just one thing I said that is UNTRUE about Islam?


My Question are:
1. Is it untrue that Mohammed recieved the Quran in seven Arabic Dialects (if we assume partial writing)?
Where is the COPY of it?

2. Is it UNTRUE that Abu Bakr wrote the first COMPLETE Qur'an?
Where is the COPY of the Quran of Abubakr?

3. Is it UNTRUE that Uthman rewrote the second COMPLETE Quran and transmitted at least seven copies of them through Arabia?
Where is ANY of the COPY of the Quran of Uthman?

4. Is it UNTRUE that the Hafs Quran was from his RECITATION rather than the several copies of Quran in Print?
What happend to the copies of Quran made from Abu Bakr's Qur'an and Uthman's Qur'an ?

5. Is it untrue that Mohammed asked you Muslims to take the Qur'an from four people?
Why take Quran NOT from Abdullah ibn Masud, Salim Mawla Abi Hudhayfah, Ubayy ibn Ka'b, and Mu'adh ibn Jabal BUT from Zaid ibn Thabit why is it that NONE of these four were part of the committee?

6. Is it UNTRUE that Hafs is known by you Muslims as untrustworthy and a liar: the one who fabricate Hadiths?
Why accept the narration (not the print) from a known Liar (Hafs ibn Sulayman al-Kufi)?


Just tell me that each of the basis for my questions are UNTRUE and I will surrender to you in shame and humiliation!

correctguy101:
I wish you well brother...

Thanks!

correctguy101:
How bold...

Commendable....

But I feel it'll be a waste if such incident ever occurs. The buggers are known for such acts hence my comment.

If it rocks your bolt, by all means continue...

We dey for audience dey root for you...

I am not bold o!
I only Trust my Life in God's hands. QED!

The best anyone can do is to pray for ALL in this category all over the world: reaching out to Muslims.
Am I looking for death?
Certainly not!
Would I die one day?
Of course yes!

If I am privileged to know the information I know about Islam, should I keep Quiet?
It would in fact be wickedness on my part to be silent.

Islam thrives on Lies and Deception : my job as a Christian is to preach salvation through Christ. Islam is an obstacle to the truth : thus, to get to Muslims, one must be ready to show them the truth about Islam. Only then can they choose to know the Messiah!

I appreciate you: what I need is prayers for grace and mercy to succeed in doing the work of a minister of salvation.

Only God has the key of life and death in His hands. Everyone will eventually die: then so what!?

correctguy101:
They will soon trace you TenQ.

You think ndi na aku is na ala are like bible wielder's who don't give a rat's ass about any who speaks ill of their faith? You think they'll dismiss you with a simple: God bless you or God forgive your soul?

We no want you to enter FP for Prime Express and Nairaland o... We no wan hear MURIC orders the immediate arrest and execution of an old infidel called TenQ o....

As ya brother wey we be...

Be forewarned o...

Thanks my brother!
I understand the risk: the worst is that they kill me!

But what would they gain with my corpse?

Every one of us will eventually die both the killer and the murdered: then what?

If they seek my death, it is a proof that they serve SATAN: only satan would kill others for the purpose of having his worship secured.

By the way:
I speak only the truth available in their Literatures.
Since most of them are Sunni Muslims, I do not use Shia or Ahmadiya literatures for them. The only thing I add is to Ask QUESTIONS!

No body want to die (but if it is my time, so be it). To live is Christ and to Die is gain for me. Only those who hate the truth will wish me death!

Mt 10:28:
"Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the one who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

Hello mohammedsaw,
Someone said you might have a response to this set of questions below.






Who Deleted the verse of Adult Breastfeeding in the Quran?

Here you will see the reason why Muslims are reluctant to use the Quran of Mohammed or the Quran of Abu Bakr or the Quran of Uthman or their copies as the basis for the modern Quran: rather, they ignored all these to use a RECITATION of Hafs who lived 150 years after Mohammed and according to muslims a renown liar!

Note: All Quoted hadiths are Sahih (AUTHENTIC)

Facts:
1. The Almighty Allah revealed in the Quran verses where a Woman can Breastfeed a grown up man TEN and later FIVE times so that the man can become part of her family.
Allah himself revealed the verse of breastfeeding in the Original Quran

2. Breastfeeding an adult less than FIVE times does not prevent marriage between the adult man and the woman who breastfeeds the man.
Meaning that Vanessa7 can lawfully suckle her husband's friend as long as it is not up to 5 or 10 times

3. The Verses of TEN or FIVE Breastfeeding was FRAUDULENTLY reported to be later abrogated (as it was a shameful practice as Islam expanded outside Arabia) but it wasn't truly abrogated by Allah.

How do we know that the Verse wasn't Abrogated by Mohammed or Allah?
It is clear that the Verses were NOT abrogated as at the time of the Death of Mohammed. The Question we want to ask Muslims is who abrogated this verse?

4. The Law of Breastfeeding Applies to Adult Males and not strictly Babies


Questions:
1. Let's assume that Allah later abrogated this law: Why did Allah put in his Quran the verse of breastfeeding grown up adult males?
2. There are many verses that are abrogated in the Quran but is in the present Quran: why was the verse on breastfeeding an Adult ten times deleted from the Quran?
3. Since it wasn't Mohammed that deleted the verse of stoning and breastfeeding in RECITATION of the Quran, who deleted the verse from the Quran?

Evidences are attached in the next page if you doubt all these>


Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
Cc:
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FxMasterz:
Before Lucifer fell, his earnest desire had been to be worshipped. What he couldn't achieve in heaven, he has been achieving it on earth through various forms. He is the one being worshipped in all other religions that oppose the Messaiah.

He even tried to further his cause through the Lord Jesus, "if you can bow down and worship me, I'll give you the whole world and its glories ."

We'll continue to pray for them as you said. Honestly, for now, they see you as evil because they do not understand that you're doing this because of the depth of the love and concern you have for their souls. They think you're trying to attack their beloved religion.
Lol. They'ree conditioned to see things that way. You're doing it for love's sake but you're being hated for your love. The same happened to the Lord Jesus.

There's a guy with the Monika mohammedsaw. I hope you do mention him too. He's a bloody fanatic who would not hesitate to use the sword if he comes in contact with you. All these your friends here have the same traits too in measures.

I don't think I have ever interacted with mohammedsaw. I think I will call him into my new post. Perhaps he will have some insights.

Every Muslim who read it know that they have no response to the questions in the post. The evidence is down raw in their literatures and glaring to them.

If only they would ask Questions with the intent of having the answers, they'll be saved

FxMasterz:
The god of this world is a master of deception. See his strategy:

Confuse them with many gods and let them loose sight of the true God (idol worshippers). Create counterfeit of the true God for those who wouldn't serve many gods (Islam). If possible, convince some that God does not exist (the Atheists). And to others, tell them that they're the god and have all powers (occult). Bring some closer to yourself and tell them to serve you directly in exchange for demonic powers (also the occult). And for those who'll serve the true God by all means, create many deceptions and replace the true God with something else. Let them serve something else while thinking they're serving the true God (Christianity and its various sects). And if there are any who'll still obstinately serve the true God by all means, create many barriers, obstacles and temptations (true Christians).

Knowing the true God, and following Him doggedly is a great miracle. The god of this world is a master strategist.

Perfectly said!
Anything else other than the Messiah is okay with the god of this world.

No wonder, the children of this world prefer darkness rather than light because the works of their hands are evil.

Let us continue to pray for the Muslims as we show them both the Truth of the Gospel of Christ and the lies inherent in their religion Islam, quran, tafsirs, hadiths, Mohammed, Allah and their literatures.

One day, some of them will begin to ask the Questions they are required to ask to be saved from satan aka Allah the greatest deceiver!

advocatejare:
They won’t answer you. They don’t know anything about their religion!

Of course, I know that they would not answer me even if I repost this one million times. It is difficult fighting against the truth especially when the evidences are presented to your face.

The problem of Muslims is that they DON'T ask Questions as Allah told them not to!

It is like a 419 person giving you a document to sign with the instruction that you don't ask any Question.
This is an extremely dangerous kind of document with which to append your signature.

Quran is perfectly preserved and every evidence is pointing to a latter editing and revision of the Quran.

FxMasterz:
My beloved brother, I've been off for sometime. Seeing your new post in exposing the satanic deception going on in Islam is quite refreshing.

You see, my brother. There's a spirit called the 'spirit of unbelief'. That's the spirit that makes you overlook all evidences and hold on to whatever you've been pre-programed to believe. When that spirit is in operation, the mind controls the man rather than the man controlling the mind. It takes a miraculous intervention of the Holy Spirit for a man to be set free from the spirit of unbelief. That's why salvation itself is a miracle. We can only preach. God would do the rest.

It is worse if there are no preachers!

The god of the world has sent his delusion to men as Islam: Only God can save them.

However, they have to listen to their conscience and ask Questions.
Only after that can they become FREE!

Jesus said:

There is a way that looks RIGHT to a man, BUT the End is Destruction.

This is more true of Islam.

The way seems right, but the end of it is destruction.
I wish you Muslims salvation: it has been given Freely by God through His Messiah!

I beg of you to listen to your Conscience.

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I never expected Muslims to be able to answer these question because its not their fault that their STANDARD Islamic narrative crumbled in the face of Questions.

I hope this will motivate Muslims to ask Questions and not take for granted the lies they've been fed all their lives.

It is not normal that a single Religion has these many unanswerable questions.

Many Muslims are not aware that there are up to 32 Arabic Qur'an of which the Hafs Qur'an and the Warsh Qur'an are the most popular. A vast majority of the Islamic world uses the Hafs Qur'an (including Muslims in Nigeria).

However, the point of emphasis today is not about the various Arabic Quran's in circulation (thanks to Hatun Tash who exposed this). Today, we want to ask just one basic simple Question.
"Who deleted verses from the Quran of Mohammed?"