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Lukuluku69:
Jesus Temporarily went to Hell fire too, so that shouldn't be a bother really.

Continue to deceive yourself.
1. You think the place Jesus went to was the lake of Fire!?
2. Jesus by His power can make the fire like cool breeze to Himself: Do you have any such powers?

Jesus isn't your mate bro!
The fire will burn you with intensity of hotness that you cannot withstand.

Moreover,
What if you discovered that the Al-Makr lied to you and there is no coming out from the fire?

Lukuluku69:
Lol

It not an Army of Elephants but you usually see 3/5 Elephants with the Army usually riden by Pronicipal Officers or the King and some of his high ranking Officers.

So, his Army brought just 2 to 5 elephants to the war AND Allah sent his F16, MiG36, Mirage and B27 of birds to bomb a whole lot out of their lives!?

Tell me another variation of the story story?
Was Allah scared of 13 Elephants?

One puzzling thing is, why was Allah so eager to protect 360 idols in his house?
Why was it that the same air force sent by Allah couldn't bomb the hell out of Al-Manat, Al-Uzza, Hubal and co from The Ka'aba?

Lukuluku69:
Read the Story of Hanibal who rode on an Elephant from Carthage (Present day Libya, Tunisia straddling some part of Egypt onto Syria). How did he water the Elephants in his wars with the Romans in the Punic Wars? If Hanibal who who was born in 247 BC could rode on an Elephant in his wars, and the Persians had Elephants riders in their Army, how come you question Abraha who was a satrap of the Persians Empire to ride an Elephant or had Elephants on his invasion of Mecca in 400BCE?

Learn your history very well bro!
Hannibal NEVER rode an Elephant in any of the deserts. He got is animals from Carthage area in North Africa, likely North African forest elephants and he rode them for crossing the Alps with a contingent of war elephants during the Second Punic War (218–201 BCE) against Rome.

Please confirm that:
Carthage was located in present-day Tunisia on the coast of the Mediterranean Sea, a region known historically for its rich agricultural land, especially along the coastal plains.
Carthage has nothing to do with any desert sir

Secondly, Persia was no desert sir! It had desert areas BUT also many areas suitable for an animal like an elephant to thrive even though Elephants were not native to Persia.


Can you tell me ANYWHERE around Mecca that Elephants can thrive?

Lukuluku69:
Are your prejudices that strong that you can't think properly? Are you that blinkered that sense is always running after you and you keep evading it?

I have asked my questions, it is you who should give a reasonable answer to these natural phenomenon

Lukuluku69:
Go play with sand, I gat no time to waste before you start asking me how did Abraham moved his cattle thru the desert now

Abraham was fully Human and
It certainly wasn't a Miracle to Move his cattles anywhere! So, I can ask you about Abraham!

Islam finds it difficult answering logical, historical or natural questions.

Unlike,
In the Battle of the Elephants!
How did Abraha, the Abyssinian governor of Yemen bring an army of Elephants in the desert to destroy the Kaaba.



Does it bother you that you are temporarily going to Hell fire as a decree of Allah?

RollinTNDA:
So why is Northern food singled out? Isn’t it convenient that when it is your own buka, you call it “local delicacy,” but when it is a Northern dish, you dismiss it as “dirty”? Is that really about hygiene, or is it about perception and bias?

I have lived in the North a long time to understand the issue


It's all about Presentation.
In the South, you can find Amala in the lowest roadside buka as well as in big polished Eateries. You can go to the type of eatery that suits your class.

Unfortunately, in the North it is difficult to find posh eateries that serve Tuwo Shinkafa, Tuwo Masara, Tuwo Dawa with Miyan Luka or Mayan Taoshe...etc

What Southerners see are just the low end eateries from the girl who hawks to the low-end bukaterias.

This is the problem.


Secondly, the Northern culture of Alimajiris scavenging in eateries without recourse to decorum makes it a culture-shock to the average Southerner. I cannot tolerate someone kicking a plate I am going to be using to eat.


I stopped taking the Local Yogurt Fura de Nunu in the North because of this even though I used to enjoy it so much. How can I stand 6 boys licking the empty bowl after I finish taking the product?

The third is about packaging!
This is how food is presented during serving: usually on the average not to appetising.
My experience with Danwake will make me vomit.
I guess I may be able to eat Danwake ONLY if it is cooked in a Rich Hausa friend house. But from my experience, it was like something prepared for dogs to eat.

So, sentiments apart, these are the problems of perception as you claimed.
Yes Hausa foods can be made appetising but it also needs a lot of appreciation from Northern cultures and a conscious push to make them global

Cc:
DrRasheed

Lukuluku69:
Matthew 10:34-36 (KJV) Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

But Jesus was speaking to us Christians that the world (including Muslims) will hate us and persecute us just because we are of Christ.
You should have read from verse 5 of the same chapter sir.

It is US that would be killed and Jesus said that we should not be afraid of those who can kill the body. Jesus said, if they could persecute Him, they (including Muslims) will persecute us.

Lukuluku69:
When Jesus went to Jesus temporarily entered hellfire? Was he distressed?

What did you read from the Bible about it?
Surely you have an answer!







Quran 19:71-72
"And there is none of you except he will come to it (Hell). This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed. Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."


1. If the Truth is that you will certainly enter hell fire (even if it is temporarily), would this information distress you?
2. Knowing that you will enter the fire even if it is temporary is certainly NOT Good because the time you will spend is undefined! How long will you spend in Hell Fire?
3. Wouldn't this knowledge help you to begin to seek for a way of avoiding this calamity?

Gabrielshow24:
They are all children of Ari...an😔.

Yes!
Same spirit.
Blessed is the person who is not infected with this spirit!

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!

The ignorant one who thought Jesus never whipped out the money chargers and traders!

SMH!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus sent his disciples out in search of peace loving people {Luke 10:6} but here you are always looking for Muslims to argue! 1Timothy 6:4
Jesus sent his disciples to speak in an harmless manner to people {Matthew 10:16} but you are always speaking abusively of other people's faith when they don't have anything to do with your beliefs.
Jesus said his disciples should humble themselves so that there can be unity among them {Luke 14:10} but you can't find any church because you find it really difficult to humbly learn yet you want to teach others therefore you have no church instead you are always here asking questions that you supposed to humbly ask those taking the lead in your church.

Now who is ignorant and arrogant at the same time?

Fix your self delusion and ignorance

Pleeeeease

MightySparrow:
That is the reason I concluded that they are just delusional in their mind and doctrine.

It's the same spirit that has infected both JW and Muslims only that the operations are different.

MaxInDHouse:
When you come out of your hole nobody disturbs you but then you think too much of yourself and when corrected you stylishly run away.

Are you now aware that temple and synagogue are different places?
Have you learned that Jesus never used a rod to beat anyone?

I always warn you to stay on your lane as Muslim trailer but arrogance won't allow you!

?
Fix your ignorance!

MaxInDHouse:
Walahi Talahi this is wahala Yaaaso!

Initially you said Jesus used a rod now you changed it to koboko.

Why aren't you people humble to learn for God's sake?

Coming from a person who didn't know that Jesus flogged the buyers and sellers in the temple.
SMH!

You honestly deserve a heavy dose of the rod of correction: but it would still be a needless exercise as you wouldn't learn.

Have a nice day!

MaxInDHouse:
So you lied Jesus never used a rod on people it was their animals that he used a rope to drive out of the temple.
Please next time you want to lie watch out for the people you talk to not someone like me who knows exactly the Bible verse even before you quote it.

As if I knew that this is where your intellectual slavery will lead you.

You should be ashamed but not you!
The spirit of Islam is pushing you on.

It isn't Rod it is Koboko!
SMH!

Teenaira:
The bingo is a bonafide member of the family. Happy birthday to him. I wish him many happy returns

It's nice to be financially comfortable sha: even the bingo looks like family

MightySparrow:
I am just reading this post. I don't know you didn't know. They interprete the Bible literally with shallow thinking. They say when God was asking Cain where he was when he killed Abel, that means God did not know everything.
That God gets his information by the report of angels or other means.

They are very funny.

That is why they created their own God in their image and they arrived at their Jehovah very similar in nature to Allah.

Jesus didn't have to raise his voice o!
He spoke gently to the buyers and sellers!

Jesus set up his own table to share and sell tracts to these buyers and sellers in the House of God!
SMH!

MaxInDHouse:
Please can you quote the highlighted in any Bible version of your choice?

Thanks in advance Sir!

When a person doesn't know beyond what the Old men told him to memorize


John 2:15:
"And when he had made a whip of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;"


Even though, the phrase "rod of correction" is a biblical metaphor primarily symbolizing discipline and correction aimed at guiding someone away from his foolishness or wrongdoing, you are probably looking for a literal Shephad's Rod SMH!

MaxInDHouse:
They are misinformed churchgoers!

Preaching in Bible times was two types?

First was the preaching God's prophets did before our common era (b.c.e) back then the nation of Israel had two Kings the first is their God who brought them out of Egypt and conquered all inhabitants of Canaan for His worshipers to inherit the place this King is a Spirit who lives forever the other kings were humans that Israelites later demanded for themselves! 1Samuel 8:6-7
Their real King (God) has the right to send town criers (prophets) to deliver urgent messages or warnings to them so this prophets (town criers) can stand in any of their streets or cities to deliver the message of their God (King) at any time.
But in our common era (c.e) things have changed a lot the Israelites had turned against their God (King) countless times {Matthew 21:43} so this King or God no longer send town criers (prophets) to enter into their streets shouting.
WHY? Because by the time Jesus walked the earth another nation out of several nations that's been ruling over Israelites is in charge of their public affairs so it is inappropriate for any town crier (prophet) to enter the streets shouting in the name of any God as their rulers may take such as disturbing the peace in their domain that's the reason why God did not send John the baptist into their towns or streets when it's time for this prophet to declare the coming of Christ rather this prophet was shouting in the wilderness! Matthew 3:1
So it was in the wilderness that faithful Jews were going to meet this prophet to know the message their God had for them! Matthew 3:5-6

After Jesus (a carpenter) got baptized by John it was revealed to John that this is the Christ that John came to prepare the way for {John 1:33} so Jesus took over the job from John the baptist and from that moment John began receiving less attention while Jesus started getting more {John 3:25-30} that was how Jesus began preaching and teaching and all the people were going to him.

QUESTION!
Was Jesus shouting in the streets?
ANSWER!
NO!
He first gathered his trusted childhood friends and started going from house to house preaching and the theme of his preaching is the same as that of John the baptist {Matthew 3:2; 4:17} but instead of shouting in the wilderness he approaches doors and greets householders before delivering his speech this reminded his disciples of what has been foretold about the Christ:

Look! My servant, whom I support! My chosen one, whom I have approved! I have put my spirit in him; He will bring justice to the nations.  He will not cry out or raise his voice, And he will not make his voice heard in the street. No crushed reed will he break, And no smoldering wick will he extinguish. In faithfulness he will bring justice. He will not grow dim or be crushed until he establishes justice in the earth; And the islands keep waiting for his law. Isaiah 42:1-4 compare to Matthew 12:19
So Jesus commissioned the preaching and teaching of God's Kingdom message from house to house and door to door so that his real disciples don't disturb passersby with noise. They are to go and knock people's doors, greet householders and ask for permission to speak before delivering their messages! Matthew 10:11-13
Do you know a religion whose preaching and teaching activities is the same as this today?
God bless you and may you have Peace!

The Gentle Jesus sweetly used the rod of correction on those buying and selling in the synagogue.

Jesus didn't have to raise his voice o!
He spoke gently to the buyers and sellers!

Jesus set up his own table to share and sell tracts to these buyers and sellers in the House of God!
SMH!

MaxInDHouse:
Women love motivational speakers out of whose mouth many are moved to act. This man is a pastor which means he earns a good living through what he's doing, which means many will be willing to bring gifts of high value to him, which means his wife and children can have all the material things they want, which means the woman will be highly regarded and respected in their society, which means she's one out of the most influential women if not in the world but at least in her country and continent.

Surely the man has what it takes to have one of the most beautiful women in the world of his time!

I know!
Bad belle.... All because he is not a brainwashed JW

nlfpmod:
Birthday: Joseph Yobo Turns 45 Today!

Happy birthday to Joseph Yobo.

Even their white dog bingo take family picture with them.


It's good to be financially comfortable in marriage

Kaliningrad:
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/09/russian-president-vladimir-putin-left-110476521.jpg

@Donald Trump posted on Truth Social;

Trumps eyes just opened after such a long time of self delusion!?

This may even be another TACO episode from Trump. Let's see what he will do rather than what he is saying

Lukuluku69:
You mean this is why you shall never experience peace in your troubled wandering soul?

If you mean why I am disturbed that the Al-Makr has Deceived you to the path of Hell!?

I should be because I care about you sir!
Why should I be at ease when a fellow man is sincerely deceived to the path of destruction?

As per peace!
Do you know for certain if Allah has destined Paradise for you?

He who has Christ has Eternal Life
John 12:26:
"If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honor."
Christ has given me PEACE which you cannot understand, this makes me at peace at all times.

John 14:27:
"Peace I leave with you, my peace I give to you: not as the world gives, give I to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid."


The best I can find for you in your Qur'an is

Quran 19:71-72
"And there is none of you except he will come to it (Hell). This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed. Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."


1. If the Truth is that you will certainly enter hell fire (even if it is temporarily), would it distress you?
2. Knowing that you will enter the fire even if it is temporary is certainly NOT Good because the time you will spend is undefined!
3. Wouldn't this knowledge help you to begin to seek for a way of avoiding this calamity?

Smithcole70:
But Ukraine is winning ths war now.......

No one wins in any war.
Don't you know this?

You think Ukraine is fighting to win a war against a nation 15 ties the size in all Ramifications!?
No!
Ukraine is fighting a war of their independence!
Ukraine is fighting not t be slaves to Russia!
Ukraine is fighting for their Freedom!

To these end, they have tried!
They have not capitulated: even with Trump Against them!

And Russia should be ashamed!
A country 15 times smaller than them, is matching them punch for punch!

I hail Ukraine!
Russia thought that this would be like Cremia in 2014 when Ukraine practically surrendered.

Where were you then?
Now they resist and you blame them!?
For what?



How do you restore the dead fathers to their children?

How do you restore the dead husbands to their wives?

War is a NET loss to any nation.

If Russia knew that three years on and over a million casualties from their end they would never have started this stupid war of aggression.

Next time, when they hear of Ukraine, Russia will tremble!
The fear of Ukraine is the beginning of Russian Wisdom!

Lukuluku69:
Never knew some thinking power still dey your upstairs o.

This is why peace will never exist in the world

Olatunji1929:
like Israel versus innocent Palestinians

Innocent Hamas you mean!?

Arrowhead71:
If china President is sincere, why then is he supporting Putin invasion of sovereign Ukraine, but no , this world is all about where your interest lies and your allies and not about world peace or international laws

I perfectly agree with you.


This world is all about where your interest lies and your allies and not about world peace or international laws

Maxymilliano:
All but two Western leaders chose not to attend the parade, while 26 heads of state joined. Xi inspected the waiting ranks of thousands of troops from the roof of his state vehicle, before warning the world must "never return to the law of the jungle, where the strong prey on the weak" in a speech.

Like Russia versus Ukraine


Yes: "never return to the law of the jungle, where the strong prey on the weak"

lebienconnu:
Na leadership, baba. E get why I talk so. For instance, if Zelensky no allow EU leaders deceive am Ukraine for no de at war with Russia now. On a noms, ukrainians and russians be padi padi, even up till now.

But Ukraine would have still lost Cremia
They would still lose the Four Oblasts in Question
They would lose their sovereignity as they would be subservient to Russia
They would have a Russian puppet as their president

But Ukraine chose to say NO to these: Ukraine is NOT Russia!

And they have made this point

SIRTee15:
already dealt with


How did people around him got to know he was translating the gospel to arabic if he kept to himself and minded his business?

How did Khadijah got to know that the right person that could explain Muhammed's encounter was Waraqah if not that both had been talking to each other about the injil
except u want to push the conspiracy theory that Khadijah was a catholic christian so had solid knowledge of the bible.


Mr Man, learn your own Hadith. Waraqah called Muhammed his nephew. Muhammed and Khadija were related via distant relatives.

Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqah bin Naufil bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Arabic letters. He would write from the Gospel in Arabic as much as God wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to Waraqah, "Listen to the story of your nephew, O my cousin!" Waraqah asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" God's Apostle described whatever he had seen.



Pls come back her and chew your words and get busy reading your hadiths instead of wasting time on the bible u don't even understand.

Waraqah asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" God's Apostle described whatever he had seen.

No one can muzzle the Truth
@Honnesttalk21 and OhYoudidnt

SIRTee15:
so the cho cho guy is male.

That's taqqiyaa in action

He is o!
They used to call him Korope just search. Nothing of Sterope threads exist now non Nairaland including posts responding to him. Thus you can see that his privileges on Nairaland is very high. He is probably one of those that maintain the backend of Nairaland platform.

One day, he will format the whole of Nairaland for Seun, probably then he will understand.

FxMasterz:
Wow!

I didn't even know that they preach such gibberish. There's only one God. If the JWs have two Gods, we do not serve the same God.

Just as Muslims, the rejection of the Trinity of God made them to create for themselves a God in their own image and thinking... They call him Jehovah and the lesser god angel Michael

blueAgent:
My friend Demons are fallen Angels.
You really have a lot to learn.

What do you think a Soul is?
Go through my blog you would get the answers to your questions.

Basic questions you cannot answer yet you feign knowledge!
SMH!

Again , I ask you
1. If the souls of humans who died go to Sheol, where does the souls of the Nephilims go after death?
2. Are Nephilims human or Angels?
3. Did the bible ever even call satan a demon or unclean spirit?
4. Have you ever cast out a demon as a Christian?


Just three elementary questions!

FxMasterz:
Exposing the Paganism in Non-Trinitarianism

Non-Trinitarians often boast of “pure monotheism,” but what they end up with is worse than polytheism. Their doctrine forces Scripture into contradictions—producing two Lords, two Kings, two Creators, two Saviors etc. That is nothing but paganism disguised in Christian language. Let us expose this folly with the Scriptures they cannot refute.

1. Are there two Kings of kings?

Psalm 47:2 – “For the LORD Most High is terrible; He is a great King over all the earth.”

Revelation 19:16 – Of Christ: “And He hath on His vesture and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”

Question: Are there two Kings of kings ruling the universe, or is this one divine title shared by Father and Son because they are one in essence? If you claim two Kings of kings, you’ve fallen into polytheism.

2. Are there two Lords?

Deuteronomy 10:17 – “For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords...”

1 Corinthians 8:6 – “...and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by Him.”

Question: Can the universe have two “Lords of lords”? Scripture insists there is only one Lord (Eph. 4:5). If both Father and Son are called Lord of lords, they are not two, but one Lord.

3. Are there two worshiped in heaven?

Psalm 97:7 – “Worship Him, all ye gods.” (Quoted in Hebrews 1:6 about Jesus: “Let all the angels of God worship Him.”)

Revelation 5:13-14 – Both the Father and the Lamb receive the same worship: “Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto Him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb forever and ever.”

Question: If God alone is to be worshiped (Ex. 34:14), how can the Lamb also be worshiped together with the Father unless they share the same divine essence? Two worshiped beings = paganism. One worshiped God in Trinity = Christianity.

4. Are there two Saviors?

Isaiah 43:11 – “I, even I, am the LORD; and beside Me there is no saviour.”

Titus 2:13 – “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.”

Question: If God alone is Savior, and Jesus is also Savior, are there two redeemers of mankind? Impossible. One divine Savior—Father revealed through the Son.

5. Are there two Shepherds of our souls?

Psalm 23:1 – “The LORD is my Shepherd; I shall not want.”

1 Peter 2:25 – “But are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls” (referring to Christ).

Question: Shall our souls be guided by two different Shepherds? Or is this one eternal Shepherd God, revealed in Father and Son? To claim two Shepherds is again paganism.

6. Are there two fountains of living waters?

Jeremiah 2:13 – God said, “They have forsaken Me the fountain of living waters...”

John 7:38 – Jesus: “He that believeth on Me... out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.”

Question: If Jehovah is the Fountain of living waters, and Christ is also the Fountain, are there two Sources of life? Or one Fountain shared by Father and Son?

7. Are there two Creators?

Isaiah 44:24 – God said, “I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone...”

God stretched the heavens alone.

John 1:3 – “All things were made by Him [the Word/Christ]; and without Him was not anything made that was made.”

Colossians 1:15-17 - Talking about Christ, the Scriptures say, "For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together".

Question: Did God not stretch the heavens alone? Did He not do all creations alone? How then did we see Christ seemingly supporting Him? Was God lying? No. God is Christ and Christ is God. If you say they're two different persons, which Christ supporting God at creation, you make God a liar for saying He did all of creation alone. Can there be two Creators of heaven and earth? No. There is only one Creator. Thus the Father and Son are not separate gods but one divine Creator.

8. The Kingdom belongs to ‘Our Lord and His Christ,’ yet only one reigns

Revelation 11:15 – “The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.”

Notice carefully: Even though it says the Kingdom of this world has become that of Our Lord and of His Christ (seemingly two persons), it doesn’t say they shall reign—but He shall reign. Two Person Kingdom, yet one divine 'He' reigning. Both God and Christ reign forever and ever over the whole universe, but there are no two Kings but one.

Conclusion: Father and Son are not two rival rulers but share one throne, one reign, one eternal sovereignty.

9. Are there two Judges?

The Father as Judge: “God is a righteous judge, and God is angry with the wicked every day.” (Psalm 7:11)

“For God is the judge: he putteth down one, and setteth up another.” (Psalm 75:7)

"Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?" (Genesis 18:25).

Christ as Judge:

“For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son.” (John 5:22). Was the Scripture lying to have previously called God the Judge?

“…we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ…” (2 Corinthians 5:10)

The Question

So, are there two Judges?

The OT says God is Judge.

The NT says Christ is Judge.

Jesus even said the Father judges no man, but has committed all judgment to the Son.

Then what do we have? One Judge who is both God and Christ.

This collapses the non-Trinitarian claim of separation because two different Persons cannot both be the only Judge.

Final Question

If Father and Son both share titles, worship, and attributes that cannot be duplicated (King of kings, Lord of lords, Creator, Savior, Fountain of Life, Shepherd, Judge, then non-Trinitarians must answer:

Are there two gods—or is the mystery of the Trinity the only way to resolve this divine unity?

Anything else is not monotheism. It is nothing short of paganism.

CC: TenQ, Ken4Christ, Gabrielshow24, Image123, Emusan, DoWhatThouWilt, SarcasticWords, Janosky

The JW Doctrine is that two Gods exist
1. The Almighty God called Jehovah
2. The mighty god called Angel Michael aka Jesus

How they developed their theology is still a mystery. Just like Muslims, they cooked up for themselves a limited God who very much like Allah of the Muslims is not Omnipresent, nor Omnipotent nor Omniscient.