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Politics › Re: Sultan Rebuts Viral Terrorism Claims, Warns Against ‘Untruths’ by TenQ:
Pakute:
https://tribuneonlineng.com/sultan-rebuts-viral-terrorism-claims-warns-against-untruths/
All you needed to have done was NOT to remain SILENT when the Fulani and Islamic Insurgents were Stealing, Killing and Destroying Nigerian people.

Who loosened the super glue used to gum your mouth for you to speak up now?

Have you said ANYTHING about the enslaved Leah Sharibu till date?

Have you said ANYTHING about the murdered Deborah Samuel till date?

Your people Unalived them AND you kept Quiet
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israeli Military Replaces Crucifix Statue Of Jesus Destroyed In Southern Lebanon by TenQ: 6:38am On Apr 23
AntiChristian:
To the Muslims:

God does not die! God needs no son to help him in anything! God does not lie! Jesus wasn't crucified but raised up body and soul. And will descend towards the end of time to complete his mission and then die.
A string of lies based on IGNORANCE and DECEPTION of Iblis by Islamists as usual!

A prove of the nature of Allah
1. Does Allah have the power to die and be Alive at the same time? NO! Otherwise, give your instance ?

2. Does Allah have the power to be fully in Heaven and also fully on Earth concurrently? NO! Otherwise, give your instance?

3. Do you concur that Allah created the Greatness Illusion in history: he made Jesus to Appear to the Jews, Romans, the Apostles of Jesus, the Mother of Jesus and the Disciples of Jesus on the Cross. The Disciples of Jesus even buried him and in their presence Jesus was taken up to heaven.
Can you explain
a. To what end was this illusion?
b. In who's presence was Jesus taken to heaven?
c. Why was it necessary for Allah to deceive Mary the mother of Jesus, the Apostles of Jesus and the Disciples of Jesus that He was crucified on the cross?
d. Why did Allah wait 600 years to try to explain the illusion he himself as the Al-Makr caused to create Christianity?
e. Who was the real person Allah place on the cross?

4. I guess you didn't know that 600 years before Islam, Jesus said that He is coming back and Hus purpose?
John 14:3:
"And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."


a. Can you explain why it makes sense that Jesus who had been with Allah in the last 2000 years will return to complete an unfinished mission and die as a Muslim following Mohammed?





As usual, I expect your rambling as Islam doesn't have ANY answers to their baseless claims from the coven of Iblis!
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israeli Soldier Smashes Statue Of Jesus Christ In Lebanon (Photos, Video) by TenQ: 6:14am On Apr 23
Expanse2020:
Ehen so it's stone they worship in macca after what Allah said to people of maccan to leave stones, and sculptures worship only the truth God...
Don't that look daft to you as you type it too🤣🤣🤣

And it's not shigidi again that is there now
It's stone 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yah Allah don't decrease, empty, kill our brain
They said they have restored your God back and had Christmas light to it to make it unique 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Only Muslims choose to tell lies even against their prophets in other to remain arguing needlessly. Don't you have ethics? Are you concurring that your prophet had been restored back and had Christmas lights to make it unique? Why is he not breaking the crosses, killing the pigs and killing the Dajjal?

1. So why do you still kiss the black stone if it is just a stone?
2. And why does the black stone have the power to absorb and erase your sins?
3. Is it untrue that your prophet said that the blackstone is the right hand of Allah?

You have explanations to give as this is idolatry !
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by TenQ: 1:27pm On Apr 22
WriteerNg:


Hot tears.

Chai.... In the next 4 years when Ukrainian population reduce by another 3 million, ur eye go clear.

But for now, continue "winning".

Slave Ukrainiiii abi how u dey talk am 😂 🤣 😭
It proves just one thing,
You are an Unaliver of Civil People!
....A destroyer of Civilizations
....A Virus
....Hater of Good

The country the wanted Demilitarised is now the one teaching America to defend themselves.
SMH!!
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by TenQ: 1:07pm On Apr 22
WriteerNg:


Botragelad BlackViper SlavaUkraini Tonididdy Lawag3 TenQ Basilico

Your almighty USA army is being trained by "small" Ukraine.
Because Ukraine is NOW Heavily Mileterized, Experienced and Better than Russia!

Don't forget that the Ukraine that was supposed to be De-Nazified and Demilitarised has become a world power i. Military Drone Technology: thanks to Putin!
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israeli Soldier Smashes Statue Of Jesus Christ In Lebanon (Photos, Video) by TenQ: 10:02pm On Apr 21
Expanse2020:
Some say Jesus of Jerusalem was different from the Jesus of Lebanon that why he gave it a befitting ceremony 🤣🤣🤣



Me personally thinking
He want to crucified it again 🤣🤣🤣
You can manufacture another idol for yourself as Its your nature. You replaced Jesus of Nazareth who was crucified and resurrected from the dead with one stranger Isa who who Allah helped escape the cross by substituting another man in his stead.

If you like invent another Jesus of Oyingbo or Jesus of Agege: its your business.


All these has not explained why it made sense that the stone worshipped by pre-islamic Meccans became a SIN forgiving personality in Islam.

Isnt this idolatry!?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israeli Soldier Smashes Statue Of Jesus Christ In Lebanon (Photos, Video) by TenQ: 5:08am On Apr 21
Expanse2020:
Some say Jesus of Jerusalem was different from the Jesus of Lebanon that why he gave it a befitting ceremony 🤣🤣🤣



Me personally thinking
He want to crucified it again 🤣🤣🤣
Some say...
Are you are rumour monger?
Shouldn't what Allah say be sufficient for you rather than what some say? Seems you forgot that Isa will come and kill the Pigs, Break the crosses and kill the Dajjal! SMH!


Do you know why it made sense that the stone worshipped by pre-islamic Meccans became a SIN forgiving personality in Islam.?

Isnt this idolatry!?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israeli Soldier Smashes Statue Of Jesus Christ In Lebanon (Photos, Video) by TenQ:
Expanse2020:
I was just curious what Jesus is doing with the solar panel that was promised to an IDF soldier 3000 years ago that warrant the smashing of Jesus head 🤣🤣
Even according to Allah, Jesus is with him in paradise, this it is a false statement on your part as Jesus could not be near any solar panel.
Nevertheless,
I was curious why it made sense that the stone worshipped by pre-islamic Meccans became a SIN forgiving personality in Islam.


Isnt this idolatry!?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israeli Soldier Smashes Statue Of Jesus Christ In Lebanon (Photos, Video) by TenQ: 12:12pm On Apr 20
Expanse2020:
God promise them to destroyed it 3000 years ago

Antiislam
Botragelad
Righteousness22
TenQ
🤣🤣🤣
So!?
Who asked anyone to make an image?
And
Why should a person who kiss the black stone for the forgiveness of his sins be bothered?
Crime › Re: 3 Women Lured With Malaysia Job Offers, But Taken To Mali To Work As Sex Slaves by TenQ: 5:55pm On Apr 19
We4all:
Even though you are right, I still affirm that they are dumb knowing full well what awaits them. I can be desperate too, sometimes, but I always use my head and no amount of convincing can make me do what clearly doesn't look right.
Because you have hope!
You got some Level of Education: thanks to your parents
Your friends around you are successful (even if it is marginal)

Thus, you have hope that in spite of everything, its going to be well.

Because of this, you are not thinking in terms of doing houseboy or housegirl work in an obscure country. You are thinking in terms of upgrading your skills so that even if you travel, it would be to a first world country and you aren't going their to mop the floor.

This is the difference.

Most do not have any higher education
They don't have skills giving them good income.
They have parents looking up to them for survival.
They have siblings they are responsible for


Then enters the Devil in Human skin to Tempt them.
Crime › Re: 3 Women Lured With Malaysia Job Offers, But Taken To Mali To Work As Sex Slaves by TenQ: 5:26pm On Apr 19
We4all:
The same stories, patterns and experiences. It is either these girls are d..u..m...b.. or pretending to be.
No. They aren't dumb.
They are desperate!
When a young lady looks at her future and it looks bleak any good sounding offer that promises to take them out of this country sparks a big hope in them.

Only that the predators are working directly for satan and have no conscience.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Believer Have More Than One Spiritual Father? by TenQ:
kppo:
Thank you for this scripture. I thought I was the only one who had that scripture in mind concerning the topic of this thread. Paul's writings okays having spiritual fathers, but Jesus frowns against it in Matthew 23. When there are contradictions like that in the bible, I choose to go with the words of Jesus, not Paul.
I dont think its a contradiction: it is more or less a figure of speech as used by Paul.

Paul Never claimed to be CALLED a Spiritual Father as their Source but Christ is their Source and Authority.

1Thes 2:11-12:
"As you know how we exhorted and comforted and charged every one of you, as a father does his children, That you would walk worthy of God, who has called you to his kingdom and glory."


1Cor 4:14-15:
"I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you. For though you have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have you not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel."




Obviously, we have to see it that Jesus is not saying we should stop calling our biological fathers "FATHER" but that we shouldn't elevate them as our Source and Authority as God is our Source and Authority

These verses harmonize perfectly: Paul uses "father" metaphorically for his nurturing spiritual role, not as a prideful title, aligning with Jesus' hyperbolic warning against exalting human leaders over God. Matthew 23 targets religious honorifics that elevate men to divine status , while Paul describes pastoral care without demanding titles





So, the BOTTOM LINE is : Who is the SOURCE and AUTHORITY of your Faith. Is it Man or God!
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Believer Have More Than One Spiritual Father? by TenQ: 9:08am On Apr 18
RhemaJet7:
The problem here is, understanding of English Language, understanding of scripture, and discernment of the Spirit

The word, "Father" you quoted, is referred to Heavenly Father, the Father I'm referring to, is a Spiritual Father.

There are many types of father, we also have Biological Father

And more over, you cannot fully understand the scriptures except the Holy Spirit helps you to interpret it.
That is why I keep urging you guys to seek the in-filling of the Holy Spirit, He will teach you many things, even the deep things.
But you have to be born again before Holy Spirit can dwell in you richly.

If Established Institutions like Pastor E.A. Adeboye, Bishop David Oyedepo, etc, can admit that they have Spiritual Fathers, how on earth will you say there is nothing called Spiritual Father?

Hosea 4:6

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

A life without divine guidance, is a life in chaos.

Scripture for Spiritual Fatherhood:

1 Thessalonians 2:11-12

For you know that we dealt with each of you as a father deals with his own children,

encouraging, comforting and urging you to live lives worthy of God, who calls you into his kingdom and glory.

Shalom
You appealed to
1. Modifying the scripture so that it says exactly what your theology is. You had to replace Father with Heavenly Father to make the scripture say exactly what you want to hear.

2. Appealing to human usage that If Pastor E.A. Adeboye, Bishop David Oyedepo, etc can use the term "my Father" , it must be correct!


Jesus was just warning Christians against exalting religious leaders (like Pharisees seeking titles such as "Rabbi" or "Father" ) above God as the ultimate spiritual authority.


Jesus was saying:
Do NOT make Humans your Spiritual Authority: Only God is your spiritual Authority!
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Believer Have More Than One Spiritual Father? by TenQ: 12:58am On Apr 18
RhemaJet7:
Can a believer have more than one Spiritual Father?

Ministering:

Prophet Olaide Mudasiru,
Also known as Mudasiru Olaide Ogunyemi.

April 16, 2026.

GRAND MANDATE:

"Go and rebuild the Kingdom of God on earth and in the territories to come"
Ephesians 2: 21.

GLOBAL MANDATE:

"We sit at the brim of United States, delivering people, humble, entertain the world".
Ephesians 2: 21.

MISSION STATEMENT:

"To lead as many people as possible to heaven".

INTRODUCTION

Who is a Spiritual Father?

A spiritual father is a mature Christian leader who provides mentorship, covering, doctrinal guidance, and accountability to foster a believer’s spiritual maturity.

Can a believer have more than one Spiritual Father?
No,
You can have multiple Mentors or Guardians in Christ, but you can not have more than one Father.

1 Corinthians 4:15-17

15. Even if you had ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel.
1 Corinthians 4:17

16. I urge you to imitate me.

17. For this reason I have sent to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.

How To Identify Your Spiritual Father?

For the fact that you worship in a church does not mean that the Overall Head of that church is automatically your Spiritual Father.
Only Jesus Christ assigns a Spiritual Father to a believer.
Your Spiritual Father may be the Over Head of your former Church or someone else.
It can as well be the Overall Head of your current church.
To identify your Spiritual Father, therefore, you have to seek the help of the Holy Spirit to reveal him to you.
You can have multiple Mentors or Guardians in Christ, but you can not have more than one Spiritual Father.
Another thing about a Spiritual Father, is that, your Spiritual Father may not even know you from Adam, but in dreams, you will be interacting with each other.
He is the foundation for your calling.

If you choose a wrong person as your Spiritual Father, YOU ARE LOST!

I am speaking from experience, inspired by the Holy Spirit .

When you're filled by the Holy Spirit, the Spirit / anointing will teach you all things, even the deep things of God.
1 Corinthians 2:10.

A life without divine guidance, is a life in chaos.

Seek the in-filling of the Holy Spirit today, and become wiser.

Benefits of having a Spiritual Father:

(1) Spiritual Coverings: A man without a Spiritual Father is running a risk.
Spiritual Father provides coverings that no other person can provide

(2) Empowerment: Impartation of anointing

(3) A Life of Maximum Grace

(4) Spiritual Maturity and Mentorship: They act as coaches, building character and discipline, similar to the relationship between Paul and Timothy.

(5) Guidance and Protection: They offer protection (like a shepherd) and, through their experience, help navigate life's decisions, preventing mistakes and fostering growth.

(6) Impartation of Maximum Grace: They pass down spiritual authority, mantles, and insights gained from their own walk with God.

(7) Accountability and Covering: They provide a safe space for correction and prayer, covering you spiritually and creating a strong foundation for your calling.

(cool Identity and Legacy: They help clarify your calling, often providing a "spiritual family" and ensuring the continuation of godly values and legacy.

(9) Opportunities for Growth: They provide platforms to serve and develop your skills.

Seek the help of Holy Spirit today, to reveal your Spiritual Father to you.

God bless you.

HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE YET TO BE BORN AGAIN,
THE BEST TIME TO DO THAT IS NOW,
KINDLY FOLLOW MY INSTRUCTIONS BELOW:

(1) Repent today

(2) Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Saviour

(3) Do Water Baptism: at this stage, you shall receive gifts from the Holy Spirit.

Having done all these, then, you shall be saved, be cleansed, experience the peace of God, and secure ETERNITY.

John 14:6

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

And guess what? There is no sin that God can not handle, whether you're a Murderer, an Armed Robber, a Prostitute or whatsoever, the moment you have repented, God is always available to receive you, forgive you and shall bless you and you shall have peace in Him.
God is a Father, and He is full of mercy.
God does not want the death of any sinner, He loves you unconditionally.

Every sinner has a hope,

Every sinner has a future.

Say This Prayer After Me Wholeheartedly:

Lord Jesus, thank you for this Gift of Salvation, I am sorry for all the sins I have committed, today, I accept you as my Lord and Personal Saviour, I surrender everything unto you, let your Spirit begin to lead me, guide me, today, I am born again and I promise never to go back to sin anymore, help me Lord, in Jesus Mighty name, amen!

As you have prayed, so shall it be in Jesus Mighty name, amen!

Congratulations!

Luke 15:7

I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Look for a Bible believing church around you and be worshipping there.

At your church, join any Service Unit of your choice and be serving God there, serve with your money, time or other resources.

Continue to love God, seek Him diligently, then you will become more precious to God, and He will be committed to reward you abundantly both on earth and in heaven.
Hebrews 11:6, Matthew 6: 33.

For Prayer Requests and Guidance, kindly call me on:

+2347057905174 (Whatzap)

07057905174.

Note This:

If you're WILLING and OBEDIENT, you will eat the good things of the land.
Isaiah 1: 16.

Wise up!

Anchor Scriptures:

Ephesians 2: 21, Exodus 32: 9-10, Philippians 3: 20-21, John 3:31.

The task of rebuilding the Kingdom of God, is every Believer's responsibilities.

Let's therefore, rise up and build.

United we stand, divided we fall.

God bless you.

I glory in Holy Spirit.

God is good, faithful, and awesome.

Unto Him alone be the glory forever, amen!

Shalom.

Prophet Olaide Mudasiru,
The Rebuilder of God's Kingdom to the world.
Intercessor Over All Nations And kingdoms.
Founder, New Nation Gospel Ministries International,
Nigeria.

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Mat 23:8-10:
"But be not you called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all you are brothers. And call no man your father on the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be you called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ."
Politics › Re: Islamic Cleric Increases Bounty On Pastor’s Head From ₦1M To ₦2M by TenQ: 3:13pm On Apr 17
madridguy:
Where is DSS in this? Is Nigeria now a lawless country?

CAN should also place bounty on the satanic man's head too.

The man is not a Islamic cleric but a satanic man.
It would be anti-christian for CAN to order for anyone's head for any reason!
Education › Re: JAMB Candidates Forced To Remove Hijab In Ibadan As 2026 UTME Commences (video) by TenQ: 11:05pm On Apr 16
turawaa:
.

Islam doesn't belong to any country or any part of Nigeria.

The first Revelation to Prophet Muhammad is " IQRA" means " READ" ...

Any Muslims sects that discourage education to male or female is not praticising ISLAM.
Only that he wasn't given anything to read
AND
He still couldn't read after he was commanded to read Thrice
Career › Re: When Trust Is Broken, Second Chances Can Be Dangerous by TenQ: 3:05pm On Apr 16
Kalatium:
Last month, my friend traveled to Kaduna to secure a site and left his boy in charge of the Abuja site. Everything seemed perfectly fine when he left.

Barely a day later, he received a debit alert from his Zenith Bank account: ₦20,000 gone.

He tried calling the boy . The phone was off. Confusion turned into worry, why would someone he trusted use his card without permission?

Then more alerts came: ₦20k. ₦30k. ₦50k. ₦30k. At that point, it was clear this wasn’t a mistake. He immediately blocked the ATM card.

Two days later, he finally reached the boy. The boy apologized and claimed it was a family emergency. But how do you explain withdrawing ₦150,000 without permission ? Is that not stealing? He had access to the ATM because he’d often run errands for building materials.

My friend’s first instinct was to involve the police, but he asked himself: how would he recover the money if the boy had no job? So, he decided to give him a second chance. He sent him to come work at the Kaduna site to repay the debt, even paying him extra for food and transport.

But the story didn’t end there. Suddenly, the boy had no phone, so my friend bought him a ₦12,000 torchlight phone to stay in touch. When the boy was done he returned to Abuja. Only for my friend to later discovered this boy had sold 2 of the 6 bags of cement in store another ₦20,000 gone.

My friend has to rush to Abuja. Before any confrontation, the boy lied about losing the new phone. Days later, he called, only for the truth to emerge: he hadn’t lost the phone; he owed someone ₦16,000, and the phone had been seized. Another lie, another betrayal.

The lesson hit hard. Betrayal isn’t just about money, it’s about the person.

Giving someone who stole from you a second chance isn’t always kindness. Sometimes it’s permission to continue what they started. They aren’t sorry. They’ll do it again.

Trust must be earned, not given blindly. Your ATM, your cards, your valuables, be careful who you place them with. Some people will disappoint you, not because they’re evil, but because their choices are self-serving.

My friend’s deepest pain wasn’t even the money, it was that someone he considered almost a brother could betray him so completely.

Lesson: Trust cautiously. Second chances can be powerful, but sometimes they are a green light for repeat betrayal.

Class dismissed.
There is NO harm in giving a second chance. People make mistakes, errors and have oversight in judgement.

But a third chance should be impossible
Islam › Re: Al Zutt by TenQ: 3:00pm On Apr 16
AntiChristian:
Hafs ibn Sulayman is one of the most renowned and widely accepted transmitters of the Qur'an’s recitation. His transmission is part of the well-established and rigorously authenticated Qira'at (canonical recitations) of the Qur'an. The science of Qira'at is distinct from the science of hadith, and the criteria for accepting a Qur'an reciter’s transmission focus on the accuracy and continuity of oral transmission, not on their hadith narrations alone.

Claims that Hafs ibn Sulayman was a liar, fabricator, or thief are not supported by mainstream Islamic scholarship. While some critics have questioned certain hadith narrations attributed to him, this does not invalidate his role as a Qur'an reciter. The Qur'an’s preservation through multiple, independent chains of transmission, including Hafs’ narration, is one of the strongest evidences of its authenticity.
You may wish to confirm if some of the Classical ISLAMIC writers claimed that Hafs was unreliable

Fabricator and Liar:
Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani documented various historical allegations that Hafs was a "known liar and fabricator" in his biographical evaluations of hadith transmitters.

Ibn Khiraash your Islamic scholar is cited as saying Hafs "used to fabricate lies" and "fabricate hadiths".

A "Thief" of Books:
Ahmad ibn Hanbal reportedly quoted Shu’bah as saying Hafs "took a book from me and never returned it" and that he "used to take people's books and copy them".

Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj (author of Sahih Muslim) listed Hafs among those "accused of inventing forged traditions and creating false news"


Are these Muslims or Jews or Christians who wrote these books at gun point on your scholars heads to insert it into your religious books?

Could it be because the earlier scholars never knew that in 1924 Muslims in Cairo will Adopt the Hafs Qur'an as canonical?

BTW:
Where is the Uthmanic Qur'an or its Copy?

Why use a Qur'an according to the RECITATION of Hafs when the Qur'an according to the RECITATION of Mohammed through Uthman was already made in 7 copies

AntiChristian:
No one mentioned anything wrong with Abdullah ibn Mas'ud so there's not need for this.

This is quite right.

Criticism Focuses on Other Narrators: When a hadith chain containing Amr ibn Dinar is criticized, scholars usually identify other narrators in the chain who have weak memory, poor reputation, or other issues. These weaker narrators cause the overall chain to be classified as weak, not Amr ibn Dinar himself.

Contextual Evaluation: Scholars also consider the context of transmission, the number of supporting chains (mutawatir or ahad), and the content of the hadith (matn) to assess authenticity.

In summary, the criticism of hadith chains involving Amr ibn Dinar is explained by the presence of other weaker narrators in the chain, not by discrediting Amr ibn Dinar himself, who remains a trusted figure in hadith scholarship.

These are simply rantings of a confused mind. No one is accusing Abdullah ibn Mas’ud but the weak chain of narrator other than him. The case still remains that the hadith you quoted is Da'if.

The hadith is discussed herein. https://hadithunlocked.com/ahmad:3788
If the Primary and Secondary source of a history are reliable, the whole history is deemed reliable sir for those are the most important source to the story.

And with a culture where Mohammed is Revered, where death befalls anyone who speak against Mohammed it is strange that such writings survived till now if they weren't true?

You.may wish to explain why no one sanctioned your scholars for writing this oddity about your prophet instead, their students chanted "Allahu Akbar" anytime the story was read.

Don't forget that Arabs have exceptional memories and they would have remembered exactly the story of the Al-Zutt.
SMH!
Islam › Re: Al Zutt by TenQ: 12:40pm On Apr 16
AntiChristian:
This is simply arrogance plus Ignorance as you based your claim on a weak hadith.

If you have an authentic hadith then the convo will continue. Mere saying some Muslims do it does not make the hadith authentic! This is clear!

For those who wish to learn he has been informed already that the Musnad Ahmad 3688 Narrated by: Abdullah ibn Mas'ud with the Chain of Narration (Isnad) that includes: Abdullah ibn Mas'ud → Amr ibn Dinar → [Several narrators] → Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal

The chain includes Amr ibn Dinar, whose status as a companion of Ibn Mas'ud is disputed by some scholars.
Some narrators in the chain are known to have weak memory or questionable reliability according to classical hadith critics such as Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani and Al-Dhahabi.
Your Quran chain include Hafs ibn Sulayman and he is a known Islamic LIAR and FABRICATOR and THIEF: but you use his Quran.
Sorry!
Poor Argument!


AntiChristian:
Due to these weaknesses, the hadith is considered weak (da‘if) and its content is viewed with caution.

Also Musnad Ahmad 3778 Narrated by: Abdullah ibn Mas'ud with the Chain of Narration (Isnad) including: Abdullah ibn Mas'ud → Amr ibn Dinar → [Several narrators] → Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal

Similar to hadith 3688, this chain also includes narrators with weak or questionable reliability.
The content of this hadith is unusual and does not align well with stronger narrations, further weakening its authenticity.
Scholars generally classify this hadith as weak (da‘if).

Both hadiths share a similar chain involving Abdullah ibn Mas'ud and Amr ibn Dinar, with the latter’s reliability being a key point of contention. The presence of narrators with weak memory or questionable trustworthiness leads scholars to treat these narrations cautiously and not as strong evidence.

Finally, you can continue to wallow in your arrogance without authentic claims as you usually do! The truth in Islam still remains the truth and not your Holy Spirit version of falsehood you are misinterpreting herein!
Abdullah ibn Mas'ud (RA) was one of the earliest converts to Islam, a close companion of Prophet Muhammad, and known as "a box full of knowledge". He is among the most respected companions, and the Prophet instructed believers to "Learn the Qur'an from four persons," including Ibn Mas'ud. He narrated 848 hadith and is revered for his piety and accuracy.

Amr ibn Dinar was a highly respected Tabi'i (Successor) and a renowned scholar in Mecca.
He is classified by hadith critics as a thiqah (reliable/trustworthy) narrator, and his narrations are found in the most authentic collections, such as Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim


Sorry, you have no case.
You are only worried because the narration causes you embarassment!


Except your argument is that Muslims are TERRIFIC liars and nothing but lies come out from their mouths.


Do you think that Abdullah ibn Mas’ud is a LIAR and he fabricated this against your prophet?
BTW: I am NOT a Muslim to be bound by your Isnadic manipulations
Islam › Re: Al Zutt by TenQ: 11:19am On Apr 16
AntiChristian:
Both hadiths are classified as weak (da‘if) or questionable by many hadith scholars due to issues in their chains of narration and content inconsistencies.

Reasons for Weakness:
1. The chains include narrators who are considered weak or unreliable by hadith critics.
2. Some narrators have been criticized for poor memory or questionable integrity.
3. The content of these hadiths is unusual or contradictory to stronger, well-established narrations, which raises doubts about their authenticity.

Do you have an authentic naration for these?
Classified by Muslims in Denial claiming chains of narrations whereas, Historical analysis shows that this was believed by Muslims until recently.

I am NOT a Muslim sir, so I go with Historical sources and methods and not Isnad!
1.Is Musnad Ahmad 3688 and 3778 from a recent ISLAMIC religious source? NO!

2. Is Musnad Ahmad 3688 and 3778 written and archived by True Muslims? YES!

3. Is Musnad Ahmad 3688 and 3778 written to demonize the Prophet of Islam? NO!

4. Is Musnad Ahmad 3688 and 3778 written as a record of what happened to Mohammed? YES!
5. Is the age of writing Musnad Ahmad 3688 and 3778 at par with the dates other hadiths were written? YES!

6. Are there other sources other than Musnad Ahmad 3688 and 3778 such as Kashf al-Khafa' (Al-Ajluni) and Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah where the story is found? YES!



So, if the Story of Alexander the Great or Genghis Khan or Julius Caesar does not need chains of reference for validation, why should I treat Mohammed with a different standard.

You have asked me several questions about the Bible and Jesus Christ: Have I ever bored you with ISNAD!?


Except your argument is that Muslims are TERRIFIC liars and nothing but lies come out from their mouths.


Do you think that Abdullah ibn Mas’ud is a LIAR and he fabricated this against your prophet?
Islam › Re: Al Zutt by TenQ: 6:07am On Apr 16
AntiChristian:
Which bible verse is this?
Why did you flee.

Its not any bible verse as you very well know. It is from your trusted ISLAMIC hadiths about your prophet and al-Zutt , often called the “Night of al‑Zutt” or “Laylat al‑Zutt” story.

SUMMARY:
The core narration is attributed to Abdullah ibn Mas’ud, who says:

1. Your Prophe performed ‘Isha, then took him to a wide valley in Makkah, drew a magic line around him, and told him to stay inside and not cross it, because “some men will come to you.”

2. Ibn Mas’ud then sees men who “look like al‑Zutt” (described as dark‑skinned, tall, and thin; often glossed in commentaries as either Jinn or a certain group of people from the East or South) appear and go to the Prophet, while he stays within the magic line.

3. Some versions of the Hadith report that the men “began to ride Mr Qutham (arkabūn rasūl Allāh) while he recites the Qur’an, and that when dawn breaks he returns feeling heavy and in pain from the “riding.”


Sources:
Musnad Ahmad 3688 and 3778
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is The Quran Of Mohammed: Is It Permanently LOST? by TenQ(op): 5:28am On Apr 16
gaskiyamagana:
I am not a fool to answer ignorant and enemy of Islam posing as knowledgeable about Islam.
Of course, I call you no fool for you very well know that the only reason you Muslims use the Qur'an according to the RECITATION of Hafs is because ALL the so-called standardized copy of the Uthmanic Qur'an are LOST.
Otherwise, tell me why Muslims allowed all the original 7 copies of Uthmanic Qur'an to disappear from existence.?

What you have is most likely a reduced Qur'an with missing embarrassing subjects like
Breastfeeding an adult man five or ten times ,
Verses of Rajam etc
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is The Quran Of Mohammed: Is It Permanently LOST? by TenQ(op): 9:06pm On Apr 15
Dr
gaskiyamagana:
Its always pain you and others when glaring errors, mistakes and faults of various available versions , multiple and mutilated Bibles were pointed out and difficult to defend for objective person as truth seeker. To you way the best way of defending biblical holy errors of your fallible God is faulting Quran with useless, baseless and irrelevant argument that never concerned you as non Islamic scholar, as you are shamefully posing and posting.
Please answer the Question


If Uthman standardized the Qur'an and wrote it down. why do you adopt the Quran according to the RECITATION of Hafs when copies of the Qur'an of Uthman should be available?
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is The Quran Of Mohammed: Is It Permanently LOST? by TenQ(op): 7:55pm On Apr 15
gaskiyamagana:
Level: 001
School Of Islamacology
Department Of Islamic Misguidance
Course Content 004
Title : Faking, Foundation of Facts About Quran
Objective: At the of the topic, students must have been thoroughly brainwashed with fabricated, fictitious and false misinformation and disinformation with lies from spurious sources, to equates, if not lower Quran to the level of bible as infiltrated, polluted, contaminated, confusing, contradictory, incoherent and inconsistence holy book.
Sc
Alright!

Its not just about DENIAL of Truth it is about facing the truth.

If Uthman standardized the Qur'an and wrote it down. why do you adopt the Quran according to the RECITATION of Hafs when copies of the Qur'an of Uthman should be available?
Christianity Etc › Re: This Clearly Proves That Islam Is Satanic by TenQ: 4:45pm On Apr 15
Dtruthspeaker:
When you see Muslim hatred for Christians and Jesus Christ displayed this way, one wonders why/what is really going on.

For many people even think that islam and Christianity are the same and one but looking at the aggression and hatred islam has for Christianity, it is clear that islam hates Christianity and the hatred is deep sitteth and one full of murder full rage.

Exactly like the one the Pharisees had for Jesus and His followers. Exactly how satan hates God's things and always seeks to destroy them.

Thus, when we see things like these.
https://www.nairaland.com/8653665/bandits-torture-unijos-student-john#139096384

https://www.nairaland.com/6663198/breaking-muslim-brother-christian-attacks#103969637

https://www.nairaland.com/6389436/former-ugandan-imam-beaten-death#98551091
Qur'an 5:51
“O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies (awliyāʾ); they are allies of one another. Whoever turns to them as allies will be counted among them; indeed, Allāh does not guide the wrongdoing people.”



Qur’an 3:28
“Let not the believers take the disbelievers as allies (awliyāʾ) instead of the believers; whoever does so will have nothing (of protection) from Allāh except as a means of self‑protection from them.”


Qur'an 9:29
“Fight those who do not believe in Allāh nor in the Last Day, nor hold as unlawful what Allāh and His Messenger have made unlawful, nor follow the religion of truth, among those who have previously received the Scripture (Christians and Jews) until they willingly pay the jizya and feel themselves subdued.”



If he is NOT the Al-Makr, who else can he be?
Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by TenQ: 10:48pm On Apr 14
goslowgoslow:
Gibberish nothing meaningful to say! You can continue fighting with your key board and Google.
Atheist don't believe in God yes nobody is arguing that but they still believe some form of spirit I don't know why comprehension is this difficult. After now I will block you, I don't go back and forth with children because you are so pained that now you are being rude.
Boohoo!
Facts don't lie!
Ignorance is a Biiss!

Silence is Golden!!
We wouldn't have known.... until you spoke!
Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by TenQ: 4:44pm On Apr 14
goslowgoslow:
The screenshot below will help you because you obviously don't understand what being an atheist is all about. I don't want to argue with you again, you can do further research yourself. Have a good day.
I once met a Doctor of Planes and it makes sense to people like you.

Strictly speaking:
An atheist is one who considers himself as
1. Lacking a Belief
2. Doesn't believe in any Deity!

Any other definition is like defining humans with respect to vision as homosapiens with either two, one or zero eyes.


If this is your position I am sorry for you.





TO HELP YOU,
I have THREE DICTIONARIES YOU CAN CHECK OUT FOR THE DEFINITION OF ATHEIST

Webster
Oxford
Dictionary.com

Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by TenQ: 4:33pm On Apr 14
goslowgoslow:
Go and read further and help yourself. You don't even know the definition of an atheist.
Unfortunately you haven't even opened your buccal cavity with any definition or knowledge.
Noise devoid of content makes a grown up adult a clown.

Did you notice how upfront I have you the definition of an Atheist and you have not even clarified your position nor corrected with your perfect definition of Atheism.

So, lets see how enlightened you are about the subject matter

1. I had defined the term Atheist and their preferred designation of "lack of belief" as illogical
2. I had stated that ORISA (Deities) are SPIRITS

Your counter please
Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic And Christian God Not My Belief – Wole Soyinka by TenQ: 3:03pm On Apr 14
goslowgoslow:
So you didn't read where he said that be believes in Orisa? Is Wole Soyinka greater than Orisa?
Every orisa is a SPIRIT!

Do Atheists believe in spirits?

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