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MaxInDHouse:
Don't change the subject:
The question i asked before you quoted:

Since this OP doesn't recognize any other pastor except Kumuyi of Deeperlife.
What church did this woman and her husband founded in Nigeria?

MaxInDHouse:
Christianity is about what Jesus taught faithful people on how to form a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} as the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} all his disciples will become loving, joyous and peaceful people in all the earth. Act 1:8
So if anyone is claiming missionary but can't present the church he established like Paul did such a person is FAKE!

Don't change the narrative
Like the church founded by Stephen and Phillip!? SMH!?[/b]
An example of your folly

MaxInDHouse:
You people claim knowing Christ yet you can't present any group of persons that's practicing what you believe! Matthew 12:46-50
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Catholics, Presbyterian, Methodist, Anglican, African, Pentecostal, Celestial, Cherubim and Seraphim just to mention a few all are churches with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
So which one exactly did this woman and her husband brought to Nigeria?
Today a Deeperlifer brought the news to Nairaland whereas the same Deeperlifer doesn't count any preacher worthy apart from the founder of his own church.
No need disturbing yourself if you can't answer the simple question keep to yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself.
Can you name the church you are associating with?
NO! Because there is no single church out there that you can vouch for their teaching.

MaxInDHouse:
Christianity is about what Jesus taught faithful people on how to form a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} as the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} all his disciples will become loving, joyous and peaceful people in all the earth. Act 1:8
So if anyone is claiming missionary but can't present the church he established like Paul did such a person is FAKE!

blueAgent:
2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;


Revelation 12:7-9
7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the
dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.
8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven.
9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil,
or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth,
and his angels with him.



Isaiah 14:12
12 How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You
have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!



Genesis 6:4
4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when
the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by
them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
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Genesis 6:1-4
1 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and
daughters were born to them,
2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and
they married any of them they chose.
3 Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for
they are mortal ; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”
4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when
the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by
them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

Fallen Angels are Demons
Stop confusing yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
The church back then had the same line of thought so they called them by the name of their location but today you will have twenty churches in the streets all shouting with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines yet claiming it's all from the same teacher: Jesus.
That's why they have labels to help people know their founder and what they are taught.

BlackViper:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/26/tech/openai-chatgpt-teen-suicide-lawsuit

DoctorStanley:
And these are not religions?

blueAgent:
U are hustle confusing yourself.

Demons are fallen angels cast out of Heaven.
That is what the Bible says, not this your personal thoughts.

DoctorStanley:
What does "unaffiliated" mean?
And what's the difference between "unaffiliated" and "other religions"?

sreamsense:
How many researches or technological developments are comming out of our universities despite near uncountable lecturers and professors except sex for mark and turning academic to mere relaxation centers? You think you can keep hiding under intellectual properties or researches to hold government at ransom on yearly basis with big grammar when you want to fight for increment ?

How many lecturers we have today in the universities have worked in the industries or remain current and relevant with innovation going out in the industries relating to their fieldd? Many (not all) of those parading themselves today as lecturers don't really have employable practical skills that could make them get employment in many standard organizations before retiring their fate in lecturing.

And some were never even allowed to explore outside before engaging them as lecturers because they have first class in theory. Some of these first class did not even do their SIWES/Industrizl Training or work with standard companies for years to gain practical experience first before retaining them as lecturers and you expect them to be productive and turn out competent and skillful job ready graduates when they themselves don't have modern practical skills, right?

If a lecturer teaching computer science or programming truly knows programming beyond solving quadratic equation or matrices; you think he will remain a lecturer that will be asking for increment on yearly basis, right? You better stop hiding under your usual emotional excuses game cards you play to deceive government when it comes to salary increment.

If you know there is money in politics, nobody stops you from joining them, go and join political party and start your journey. Professors and PhD holders are there in senate or politics, you won't be the first or the last to do so. Life is full of choices! Government just did some increment not too long and you are asking for more because of what happened in Imo state effect

sreamsense:
Life is full of choices. If you think being a president is your priority, go and join politics with your WAEC or professorship/PhD certificate, there is always a minimum entry. As far as I know, nobody puts embargo on PhD or professors not to join politics too if you think they get well paid than you.

Since you know being in senate or be a president is where you can get bigger money, room is opened for you "Waka go there" or if you think UK pay well, no need for you to make noise; process your "Japa", and when you use your professorship or PhD to end up as taxi driver in UK, don't blame anybody, just blame yourself and take responsibility for not being lucky enough like others

If a WAEC holder becomes your president based on your reasoning, is it not more shameful for a professor to even be approaching that "WAEC president" to increase your salary. You see the WAEC president being your boss now and more successful than you, then; then if you are not lazy too, carry your professorship/PhD certificate to also queue for future presidency. It is part of hustling.

It becomes more shameful to allow your certificate to turn you to a lazy person that can not take any more other jobs or compete for better opportunity even in politics or elsewhere, only to wait at the same spot lamenting salary increase on yearly basis

sreamsense:
It is not by force to work for government, they should vacate universities and go out to hustle to give room to those that are even ready to collect N200000. There are professors outside schools hustling for their monies, they should go to the streets or politics where they think with there is money. Employer can not make you rich, they can only give you money to feed your family. If you want to become rich, go out there and hustle for your money. Even if they are paid N5000000 a month, In two years, they will still come back to say they need more. There are many professors, PhD outside academic environment who are employers of labour.

If the two Google guy founders that have up to PhD in Computer engineering and the other in Computer science with parent professorship background also ended up lecturing, they will not help ending up as one of the biggest employers of labour worldwide today . Is not too long salary increase was done, and if government yield again now. NASU,SANU and many others will also come again to ask for increment. If you think you are eyeing UK money, find your way to UK to look for teaching job or take to odd jobs for survival. When you know where the money is, then use your leg to go there now, and let those that are even ready to collect N100000 enter

MaxInDHouse:
What is the name of her church since we all know that there are thousands of sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines today?
In the first century a Christian missionary must be able to mention the name of the church he established so that it may be in record that so and so person founded this church after preaching and teaching in that area.
That's what apostle Paul did in Rome, Corinth, Galatia, Ephesus, Philipi, Colossea and Thessalonica.
So what is the name of the church she founded so that everyone can see how members of that church are zealously preaching and industriously teaching from house to house and door to door just as Jesus commanded his disciples? Matthew 10:11-13

Difrent:
It can be two ways sha
People have invested in the past only for government policies to kill it.
Take the example of Sir Michael Otedola investing in a fluorescent lamp company only for government to grant license to indians to import what is already produced in country, killing the local company.
If you invest in a new venture today
Be sure that you won't survive competition from an international rival who has access to more money than you..... They only need look for an importer and make him their sole distributor and a corrupt government official to issue licenses that will undermine your company.
See what Dangote is facing, and he's Africas richest man o.

I would rather go to invest in an innovation that will be useful for Nigeria in a place that has low production cost like China and import into Nigeria.
Afterall if you produce here at a high cost an individual can produce the same product in china at a lower cost and price you out of the market.

DoWhatThouWilt:
Even nairaland bot is tired of your lies.

SarcasticWords:
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lawani:
Innovators too can look for investors by themselves. Tesla, Space X etc were private companies initially before Elon Musk became an investor and then they became public.

Pro force has FG shares in it of the defense industry company. I think it is the foremost Nigerian company using a patent to produce.

Then companies need to learn the culture of taking their problems to the academia. The academia can solve any problem

Then we don't really have monopolies in the country again

wink2015:
Ukraine government should settle with Russia to end the war.

Drop their NATO Ambition.

All these killings are as a result of the prolong war.

FxMasterz:
Objection (Non-Trinitarians):
The Trinity is a man-made doctrine. The Scriptures never explicitly state that God is three in one. The Father alone is God; Jesus is His servant or Son, and the Spirit is merely His power.

Answer (Truth of Scripture):
It is true that the Bible does not present the Trinity in a single verse, like a dictionary definition. Yet, throughout Scripture, God reveals Himself in a progressive and interconnected manner. The Trinity is not a human invention—it is the unavoidable conclusion when one follows the testimony of God’s own Word. Let us examine certain unique scriptures often neglected in this discussion.

1. The Throne of God and the Lamb

In Revelation 4, John sees a throne in heaven occupied by the Almighty. In Revelation 7:17, however, this same throne is described as being shared with the Lamb. Two Persons, yet one throne. If this were simply symbolic, it would have been clearer to keep them separate. Instead, the Lamb sits where only God sits.

Literal Standard Version

"...because the Lamb that [is] in the midst of the throne will feed them, and will lead them to living fountains of waters, and God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”

2. The First and the Last — God or Christ?

Isaiah 44:6 records the words of Yahweh: “I am the First and I am the Last; apart from Me there is no God.” Yet, in Revelation 22:13, Jesus declares: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”

If Yahweh alone is the First and the Last, and Jesus also claims that title, then either Jesus is committing blasphemy—or He is Yahweh Himself. We have only these two options, if Jesus is not committing blasphemy, then He is Yahweh Himself.

This same passage further states: “I am He who was, and is, and is to come, the Almighty” (Rev. 1:8 ). In verse 17, Jesus repeats the exact words: “I am the First and the Last.” The inference is inescapable: the Almighty and Jesus speak with the same eternal self-identity.

3. The Glory of God — Is Jesus that Glory?

When Moses asked to see God, he was told: “You cannot see My face… but you shall see My back as My Glory passes by” (Exodus 33:18–23). Similarly, when Ezekiel saw God on His throne, all he beheld was the likeness of the Glory of the Lord (Ezekiel 1:28).

Now, Hebrews 1:3 says: “The Son is the radiance of God’s Glory and the exact representation of His being.” Paul also teaches: “We all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s Glory, are being transformed into His image with ever-increasing Glory” (2 Corinthians 3:18).

So, if God’s Glory is God Himself revealed, and Jesus is called the Glory of God, then who is Jesus? He is not merely a messenger—He is the very Glory of God manifested in flesh.

4. The One Lord of Both Testaments

The Old Testament constantly repeats: “Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One” (Deut. 6:4). Notice, The Lord is One. Meaning there is no other Lord. Only The Lord, There is no Lord any other thing. Yahweh is called the Lord God Almighty. Yet Ephesians 4:5 affirms: “There is one Lord, one faith, one baptism.”

Now, in the New Testament, the exclusive title Lord is applied to Jesus Christ. For instance, “No one can say, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ except by the Holy Spirit” (1 Cor. 12:3). If there is only one Lord, and Jesus is constantly called Lord, then the Lord of the Old Testament and the Lord of the New Testament are the same Person.

Throughout the New Testament, Jesus is called The Lord - a definite article. Jesus is not called a Lord or just Lord. He is called The Lord. Which Lord? The One Lord of cause.

5. Before Abraham Was, I Am

Jesus did not say: “Before Abraham was, I was.” which is the correct and most logical way to talk as a man who has existed before Abraham. But, that would only suggest pre-existence. Instead, Jesus said: “Before Abraham was, I am” (John 8:58). The Jews perfectly understood what non-Trinitarians cannot understand. They knew what He meant, for they picked up stones to kill Him for blasphemy—He was claiming the same eternal Name revealed to Moses in Exodus 3:14: “I AM THAT I AM.”

Only God can say, “I Am.” Jesus is not a created being. He is the I Am, eternally existing from everlasting to everlasting.

6. The Spirit — Spirit of God or Spirit of Christ?

Romans 8:9 says: “You are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.” Notice that the same Spirit is interchangeably called the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ. Paul did not say “two Spirits”—it is the one Spirit (Eph. 4:4), belonging equally to God and Christ.

Thus, the Spirit is not merely “God’s power.” He is the divine Person proceeding from both the Father and the Son, uniting believers with God Himself.

7. Rebuttal Shield — The “Servant” Argument

Non-Trinitarians argue: “But Jesus said, ‘The Father is greater than I.’ Does that not prove He is lesser than God?”

Answer: Scripture speaks of Jesus in two ways—His eternal divine nature, and His incarnate human nature. In Philippians 2:6–7, we are told that though He was in very nature God, He emptied Himself and took the form of a servant. In His humanity, He humbled Himself under the Father. But in His divinity, He remains equal with the Father from eternity. He speaks both as man and as God because both natures resided in Him. Hence, these truths must be held together.

You do a great disservice to the Person of Christ when you hold one of His natures and reject the other. Both natures explicitly appear in Scripture.

Final Statement

From throne to Glory, from Lordship to the Spirit, the Scriptures leave us no room for the simplistic claim that “the Trinity is man-made.” The testimony is consistent: the Father is God, the Son is God, the Spirit is God. Yet, not three Gods, but One God.

The revelation of the Trinity is not a philosophical invention—it is the self-disclosure of Yahweh in the Old Testament, fully unveiled in Christ and His Spirit in the New.

If you say Jesus is only God and not man, you are committing a great fallacy berceuse that is not the complete Bible. Similarly, if you say Jesus is only man and not God, you are committing a great fallacy as well because that is not the only thing the Scriptures say about Jesus. When the complete Bible is upheld as truth, you cannot but come to terms with the fact that Jesus is both God and man, and that the Spirit of God is the same as the Spirit of Christ. If you believe the whole of the Bible to be God's Word, then the doctrine of the Trinity is a Bible Truth.

CC: Ken4Christ, Image123, Gabrielshow24, TenQ

blueAgent:
What are Demons, if not fallen Angel's?

honesttalk21:
I disagree with you. I don't dislike the truth even if a lot around me works on falsehood. Lies, corruption etc.

Of what use is one person sharing your view, I see some posts of Sterope and don't know which ones you say disappeared. Could it be Nairaand system that removed them as you falsely accuse me of being involved in?

Ohyoudidnt:
Please present reports of people doing solely this and validation that this alone is enough.

Ohyoudidnt:
I have challenged you to now say based on the powers and importance you give to the stone why just going to touch it or kiss it isn't enough for ardents to your view of it's power.


You cannot answer as the stupidity of your premises are now laid out to you.

Well I will stick to my older resolves about you

honesttalk21:
My not knowing isn't premise for you to invent a story then mockingly pinning it on Jibril isn't an argument.

Stick to verifiable truths not conspiracy jokes.

honesttalk21:
I don't know

Ohyoudidnt:
Is this your answer to my question emboldened here?



Tell me.

TenQ:
Don't change the embarrassing topic
Does the stone absorb sins?
Does the stone intercede for Muslims?

Is the Blackstone is the right hand of Allah?


You said the black stone doesn't absorb sin nor intercede!?
Who taught you that?

On Forgiveness of sin on touching the Blackstone

Sunan an-Nasa'i 2919
It was narrated from Abdullah bin Ubaid bin Umair that a man said: "O Abu abdur-Rahman, why do I only see you touching these two corners?" He said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Touching them erases sins.' And I head him say: 'whoever circumambulates seven times, it is like freeing a slave.'"

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 959
Ibn Ubaid bin Umair narrated from his father:
"Ibn Umar was clinging on the two corners (in a manner that I had not seen any of the Companions of the Prophet doing) so I said: 'O Abu Abdur-Rahman! You are clinging on the two corners in a manner that I have not seen any of the Companions of the Prophet clining.' So he said: 'I do it because I heard the Messenger of Allah saying: "Touching them atones for sins." And I heard him saying: "Whoever performs Tawaf around this House seven times and he keeps track of it, then it is as if he freed a slave." And I heard him saying: "One foot is not put down, nor another raised except that Allah removes a sin from him and records a good merit for him."


On intersession for you Muslims by the Blackstone

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 961
Ibn Abbas narrated that: The Messenger of Allah said about the (Black) Stone: "By Allah! Allah will raise it on the Day of Resurrection with two eyes by which it sees and a tongue that it speaks with, testifying to whoever touched it in truth."

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 961
Ibn Abbas narrated that: The Messenger of Allah said about the (Black) Stone: "By Allah! Allah will raise it on the Day of Resurrection with two eyes by which it sees and a tongue that it speaks with, testifying to whoever touched it in truth."


Oya, thank me for teaching you the real Islam.



Tell me if this is NOT idolatry?
An Idol is a physical representation of a Deity who perform some of the functions of the Deity!

honesttalk21:
I disagree with you. I don't dislike the truth even if a lot around me works on falsehood. Lies, corruption etc.

Of what use is one person sharing your view, I see some posts of Sterope and don't know which ones you say disappeared. Could it be Nairaand system that removed them as you falsely accuse me of being involved in?

honesttalk21:
Of what use exactly is to me? It's not unusual to have Nairaand accounts become redundant or totally disappear. What's the big deal?

Gabrielshow24:
🤣🤣🤣It surely is! We stand on the truth and not on lies🤤. We have survived critisms from all scholarship endeavors! While they cower and hide themselves.
Surely, the internet is the ’dea...’ of Is...lam