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shadeyinka:
It is undeniable that Allah legalized Adultery for Mohammed alone.

My question to Muslims especially AntiChristian and Lukuluku69 is that:

Are Married Muslim women who give themselves to Mohammed for sex committing Adultery?

Let's see how the Islamic Nairaland Jihadists would interpret this scripture in another context.

Muslim scholars are the greatest liars ever.

They LIE to themselves as they also lie to others

AllenforGOD:
Allah and moon hah mad are useless goats
even his ZOMBIES!

LOL!

Why would Allah legalize Adultery for Mohammed and the Muslim women?

TenQ:
Are these LIES against Islam?
Who dares to prove this wrong.




Qur'an 33:50-51 is ALL about sex and not marriage!

In case you want to verify:
https://quran.com/33?startingVerse=50



Thank you!

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You will agree with me that it is difficult defending Islam on some issues.

My problem however are those who mistranslate the Qur'an deliberately to say what it wasn't saying

budaatum:
The devil tempted Jesus with verses to compare too, but the devil's misunderstanding was made clear just as your's is in assuming some Allah made a mistake in a book written and edited and translated by humans.

My Question was simple:

Do these two translations of the Qur'an mean the same thing?

1. Budaatum , do you think these two translations mean exactly the same thing?

FROM TENQ
Qur'an 9:31
They (Jews and Christians) have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah and the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.


FROM BUDAATUM
Qur'an 9:32
"They have taken their rabbis and monks as well as the Messiah, son of Mary, as lords besides Allah, even though they were commanded to worship none but One God", .....


2. Which of the two translations is closer to the Interlinear Qur'an translation?


Can you see Islamic Taqqiya even in Qur'an translations!?

3. Attached is the Interlinear translation of the Qur'an by Muslim scholars

Are these LIES against Islam?
Who dares to prove this wrong.




Qur'an 33:50-51 is ALL about sex and not marriage!

In case you want to verify:
https://quran.com/33?startingVerse=50



Thank you!

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PART TWO:
Unfortunately, it seems after Mohammed released this verse, ALL women started coming to give themselves to Mohammed for sex. It would have been okay if all these women are young and beautiful BUT it seems amongst these women throwing themselves at Mohammed for sex are
1. Old Women
2. Ugly Women
3. Fat Women
4. Dirty Women
5. Flat chested women etc

It was too much and Mohammed was overwhelmed with undesirable women in addition to his SPECIFICATION. Therefore, the Almighty Al-Lah revealed verse 51.

Verse 51 gives Mohammed the RIGHT to DEFER or POSTPONE sex with the UNDESIRABLE women sometimes INDEFINITELY.

Qur'an 33:51
Thou mayest defer (the turn of) any of them that thou pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest: and there is no blame on thee if thou invite one whose (turn) thou hadst set aside. This were nigher to the cooling of their eyes, the prevention of their grief, and their satisfaction - that of all of them - with that which thou hast to give them: and Allah knows (all) that is in your hearts: and Allah is All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.



Allah wrote in summary that Mohammed should feel free to do with the women as he pleases and that he shouldn't feel bad if he turns down any woman. Even if he turns down any woman and he later desires her, Allah says it not a problem.

At a point, one of the favourite wives of Mohammed had to say

“I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires.”


EVIDENCE:

Sahih al-Bukhari 4788
Narrated Aisha:
I used to look down upon those ladies who had given themselves to Allah's Messenger(ﷺ) and I used to say, "Can a lady give herself (to a man)?" But when Allah revealed: "You (O Muhammad) can postpone (the turn of) whom you will of them (your wives), and you may receive any of them whom you will; and there is no blame on you if you invite one whose turn you have set aside (temporarily).' (33.51) I said (to the Prophet), "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires."

You will see that the context of Qur'an 33:50-51 is NOT marriage but just sex.

PART ONE:

Did Allah make Adultery Lawful for Mohammed?

There are so many verses of the Qur'an that Muslim scholars deliberately mistranslate to hide Uncomfortable truths about Mohammed.
Thus, whenever one is not sure, one should consult an Interlinear Translation. Even this is not safe from adulteration from zealous Islamic scholars and apologists. It is NOT safe to trust ANY English translation of the Qur'an because of this obvious attempts of COVER-UPS!

In the verse of today, we see HOW the Almighty Allah gave permission to Mohammed to have sex with ANY woman in his domain.

Qur'an 33:50
O prophet, we indeed have made lawful (for sex) for you
*your Wives whom you have paid their dowry
*And your Slaves whom you rightfully possess from among who Allah has given you
*The Daughters of your Paternal Uncles
*And The Daughters of your Paternal Aunts
*And the Daughters of your Maternal Uncles
*And the Daughters of your Maternal Aunts who emigrated with you
*And Any Believing Woman who gives herself willingly to the prophet for SEX
* This is a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) believers - We are Aware of that which We enjoined upon them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess (their slaves) - that you may be free from blame, for Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.


Muslims usually want to argue that all this is about women who are lawful for Marriage to Mohammed, unfortunately, this is a massive FALSEHOOD!
1. If the verse is about women eligible for marriage, them Mohammed's wives would not have been included in the verse for Mohammed's wives are lawful for him for sex. Can Mohammed marry his already Married 16 wives again?

2. The last verse also reiterates that for other Muslims, Allah has instructed them about who is lawful for sex, that is their Wives AND their Slaves (whom their right hand possesses)

3. The word يَسْتَنكِحَهَا translated as MARRY HER (even in their Interlinear Translation) is WRONG. The real word is actually very raw: It means "he fu.cks her"[sub][/sub] f (he has SEX with her)


Knowing this, you have every reason to DOUBT the diluted translations Muslim scholars throw at us. Lying is in their blood.

The INTERLINEAR Translation is attached as evidence.
The Google Translate of the word يَسْتَنكِحَهَا is also attached as evidence.


Questions:
1. Can any Muslim tell us what this verse has to do with Islam and salvation that the Almighty Allah saw it fit to be put on the eternal tablet of the Qur'an?
2. Is it true from this scripture that any married woman can Lawfully have sex with prophet Mohammed? What would be their gain- is it automatic Paradise!?
3. As a married man, how elated will it be if your wife goes out to have sex with Prophet Mohammed? What blessings accrue to you for renting out your wife to the prophet?




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AntiChristian:
Theme?
Na humans dey do theme!

When humans write they consider theme, plot, etc!

Not God!

And the only book of Allah has been found to be full of spiritual, scientific, historical and mathematical errors.

*Alexander the Great became a Prophet in Islam.
*The sun sets in some murky waters
*Allah gives guidelines for prostitution as part of Islam
*Allah swearing by mundane things
*Using "We" for himself like the bound man with Legion at Gadarene
*We don't even know the original Quran wether it is Warsh or Hafs or the others
*That God allows Adultery
*Women having sperms

What miracles wouldn't we see in the Qur'an?

MightySparrow:
If you are a Yoruba man and you know a little of ifa stories. Yọu will be hearing some funny stories such as cockroach and hen are wives of the same husband and such stupid stories. Hadith is nothing more than that. Quran is a confusion of scriptures.
Antichristian has no choice than celebrating the nonsense. Anyway, that is the level of his mental capacity.

Unfortunately, even these Hadiths 80% are acclaimed by them to either be DAIF or an outright fabrications!

Hadiths of how the sun bows daily under the throne of Allah: forgetting that this makes the seventh heaven within our solar system. Also, the sun isn't bowing under anything. It is within its galactic orbit to which no one knows the period!

AntiChristian:
The hadiths too are inspired as Allah says in the Qur'an Nor does he speak of (his own) desire. (53:3)

Nothing is adjusted! Just because your holly spirit can't understand it does not make it adjusted!


Say whatever you wish!

The correct understanding is as below, it is a transfer of understanding and context and not just words:
Sahih International: They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah , and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.

Pickthall: [/b]They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks and the Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to worship only One Allah. There is no Allah save Him. Be He Glorified from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)!

[b]Yusuf Ali: They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).

Muhammad Sarwar: They (unconditionally) obeyed the rabbis and the monks and worshipped the Messiah, son of Mary, as they should have obeyed God. They were commanded to worship no one besides God who is the only God and who is too exalted to be considered equal to any idols.

Mohsin Khan: [/b]They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah (by obeying them in things which they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allah), and (they also took as their Lord) Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), while they (Jews and Christians) were commanded [in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) to worship none but One Ilah (God - Allah) La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He). Praise and glory be to Him, (far above is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)."

Are your people from there?



[b]Whose mistake is this?

A. God
B. Jesus
C. Human writers of your books
D. Holy Spirit



The interpretation has been given! And even if the verse is read in full it would even be understood as i have said!
And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him. How do you worship one God without associating anyone with Him?

Alhamdulillah for Al-Islam.
Even the Qur'anic Grammar is a miracle!
I pray I and my family die as Muslims!

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THE END!

Exactly why it is a MISTAKE in the Perfect Quran



Amazing that you are giving me scores of mistranslated verses when the Arabic is VERY Clear!
I can understand that it doesn't say what you wished it to say

What we see is that,
In Qur'an 9:37, we see Allah implying that people should worship him AND the Messiah. Modern Muslim scholars are trying to hard to misrepresent the Arabic of the verse to read something milder, however in the Arabic, the damage is already done

Qur'an 9:31
They (Jews and Christians) have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah and the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.


An Interlinear translation of the Qur'an is attached for Muslims who intend to use a mistranslated version of the Qur'an.
Paraphrased, Allah is reporting that the Jews and Christians have taken their Rabbis and Monks as Lord INSTEAD of Allah AND the Messiah


This is from your Source o!

naptu2:
https://humanglemedia.com/leaked-intelligence-files-give-insights-into-u-s-tracking-of-nigerias-election/

Nigeria’s President-elect Bola Ahmed Tinubu casts his ballot at a polling station in Ikeja, Lagos, Nigeria Feb. 25, 2023, REUTERS/Nengi Nelson.

Of all excuses: swollen batteries which were not detected earlier and which also allowed the usage of the machine until time for uploading results!?

Igboh was said to have responded that the majority of the BVAS devices stored at the INEC headquarters in Rivers state were malfunctioning due to swollen batteries, “an issue he claimed would likely affect the election if not quickly remedied”.

FxMasterz:
Exactly. They use the Bible both to validate themselves and their prophet. Then, depending on the issue being discussed, they turn around to attack the same Bible. Pathetic.

Till tomorrow, we want to read from the Qur'an how Ishmael became the sacrificial son of Abraham!
SMH!

AntiChristian:
So it's about "context" now and not interlinear?




Quote the sword verse with your interlinear Bible first! Desist from contextual meaning from now on! If you want to be mad be mad fully. Don't become mad and sane later only to become mad once more

LOL!
The Ball is in Your Court sir!

Don't you find it interesting that most chapters of the Qur'an are not coherent on a theme or topic?

No body asked you not to translate in contex. Only retain the meaning of the verse

The Ball is in Your Court sir!

FxMasterz:
They depend on the Bible for these answers, yet they claim that the Book has been corrupted. SMH.

That is my point o!

They can only cherry pick what they want from the Bible.

43Ronin:
Come be like say Allah dey do attaché by force to Jesus. Like say e wan Jesus blow

Actually, Allah is a pseudo for Mohammed!

Anything Mohammed want, he claim Allah commands it. No one else had seen Jubril except Mohammed. There is no miracles to even authenticate that God is sending him neither does any prophet validate even him.

Islam is aCult centered on sex, money and power!

budaatum:
I was not defending Islam. I was pointing out your shoddy reasoning but decided to let you be.

Really!?

You didn't know a fart about the subject you took. Did I not give you two verses to compare?
Your adopted translation and another?

That was just English language text nothing "imaginary" there.
LOL

FxMasterz:
Since the answers are not in their books, nothing will change even if you reduce the pass mark to 1%..

I was even trying not to embarrass them. How can pass mark for an exam be 1%?

MightySparrow:
Can you please make your explanation clearer

I've already responded to him. The ball in now in his court!

MightySparrow:
Islam itself is the mistake. There is no Allah anywhere. Mohammed' s Allah doesn't exist. Mohammed miscopied Jewish scriptures and mixed it with Arabian folklore.


How can Allah say that sperm comes from spinal cord? He doesn't know what he created?
How can Allah say that the Sun sets murky water?
How can Allah say that if the female sperm comes out first during intercourse the baby would be girl and vice versa.

Muslim apologists are still struggling like gutted fish looking for how to duck tape this error and many more.

How can Alexander the Great be a Muslim who Allah speaks to?

budaatum:
buda does not advocate for imaginary things.

Buda started with this before backing out. Why did you abandon your defence for Islam?

AntiChristian:
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So interlinear translation is what the Holly spirit directs you to today?

Okay, Islam has context and ahadith so the texts are translated appropriately!

It's not all verses that can be subjected to a word by word translation. Many would be contextual with the Qu'ran and Hadith!

The perfect dictated words of Allah has to be panel beated by Hadith to fit into contexts!?

Did Allah give anyone the licence to adjust the clear meaning of the Qur'an?

Honestly, I don't understand you.


Qur'an 9:31 is unambiguous for any Arabic speaker. It says exactly what it is

Qur'an 9:31
They (Jews and Christians) have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah and the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.


And not your deceitful re-engineering of words

AntiChristian:
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I think you should check the interlinear translation of the Bible below such that most translations couldn't agree on the correct number of years!

So whose mistake is this below as i no fit abuse your Gods as you do mine?

The book of 1Samuel 13:1 and its translation in versions of the Bible has caused a great embarrassment for Christian apologists:

1.NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.

2. ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION
Saul lived for one year and then became king, and when he had reigned for two years over Israel.

3. KING JAMES BIBLE
Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

4. NET BIBLE
Saul was [thirty] years old when he began to reign; he ruled over Israel for [forty] years.

5. NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE 1977
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned thirty-two years over Israel.

6. JPS TANAKH 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

7. AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

8. YOUNG'S LITERAL VERSION
A son of a year is Saul in his reigning, yea, two years he hath reigned over Israel

Use your interlinear Bible and pick the correct translation and tell us why the Holly spirit directed the other wrong translators to tell lies with such mistakes as you similarly abused Islam?
You're the mistake!
That's what is called contextual interpretation! The mistake only exists in your brain!
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I laugh in Swahili.

1 Samuel 13:1 is probably the most difficult verse to translate from Hebrew because It simply contain an unfamiliar expression in Hebrew which reads

Masoretic Text
בן שׁנה שׁאול במלכו ושׁתי שׁנים מלך על ישׂראל

"One Year Saul Reigned and Two Years When he had Reigned Over Israel "

I guess you should tell us what your interpretation is as I've done with Qur'an 9:31at least you can tell us what Christians are hiding from Muslims.

Christians don't have the problem that human beings wrote their scripture, however for you Muslims, the Qur'an is directly from Allah through Jubril. We therefore expect Allah to be perfect
1. Is it really true that the Qur'an is the exact verbatim words of Allah and has been perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks?
2. Is it true that the Qur'an in your hands are copies of the Eternal Qur'an on tablets in heaven?
3. You may need to tell us which one of the following Qur'ans is the verbatim words of Allah Hafs Qur'an, Warsh Quran, Qaloon Quran, Dooree Quran or Ibn Aamir Quran?
4. Is it true that a tame sheep eat part of the Qur'an of Allah but it is still perfectly preserved?
5.

AntiChristian:
Matthew said Jesus said:
Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:34

So Jesus didn't bring one sword as in literally "a sword"! One sword can't destroy the world but many swords!

Just as it was in the old testament:
"You Ethiopians will also be slaughtered by my sword,” says the LORD.
Zephaniah 2:12

Father and son having swords ain't no big deal right steep?

So, it's no more about possibly and maybe the Disciples had a pair of swords each. It is about Matt 10:34?

Unfortunately, if you had read the Matt 10 you would have understood the context of what Jesus was speaking about.

It is WE Christians that would be massacred and slaughtered by people like you in the name of Allah: Our peace would be taken away because of your sword

Therefore:
Mat 10:16:
"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the middle of wolves: be you therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."

In this dangerous world, Christians are like sheep in the middle of wolves of Atheists and Islamic terrorists



Mat 10:17:
"But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will whip you in their synagogues;"


In this troubled world, Christians would be arrested and brought to face judgement by people like you who think they serve the God

Mat 10:21-22:
"And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. And you shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endures to the end shall be saved."


Even in our house holds we Christians would be BETRAYED to be sentenced to execution by people like you Muslims. And we Christians shall be HATED because of Jesus



Mat 10:28:
"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

But as Christians we should not fear for our lives because the worst you can do is to kill our body. Jesus says we should rather fear God.


Mat 10:22:
"And you shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endures to the end shall be saved."



Jesus tells us that we shall be HATED of all men because of Him.


Yes, Jesus did not come to bring peace but sword AND we His Disciples are at the recieving end



My challenge is still pending:
Please show us where the text says " they had two swords each?"

AntiChristian:
Abeg which tafsir are you using?
Is it not the same context of the Bible?

Possibly each may have two swords!
And it was one of the sword used to cut one of the soldiers ear!

Just like the Cushite sword of God in old testament!

Possibly each has two swords!?

See how you MANUFACTURE CONJECTURES: You use the words possibly and may in the same sentence!? LOL!
So, you are not sure? How then can we take you seriously?

Effect of watching too much Indian movies!


I challenge you:
Please show us where the text says " they had two swords each?"

shadeyinka:
Of course.
It is clear as the day that
The verse is either a Mistake!

Why?

Other parts of the Qur'an denies the Messiah.

Qur'an 9:31 is an obvious mistake that English translators of the Qur'an have been trying desperately to cover up with outright lies and mistranslation!
It is a

MightySparrow:
Islam is a mistake.

Of course, Qur'an 9:31 is a MISTAKE!


The Question now is:
Who made the Mistake?

Was it Allah?

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FxMasterz:
Chai! Quran don deny them of ₦100k awuf as the answer no dey there.

A Christian would answer all six questions from the Bible under 2 mins.

Do you think I should reduce the Muslims pass mark from 50% to 20% across-the-board?


If this questions were for Christians, I would have been millions in debt by now!

LOL!

shadeyinka:
TenQ,
Na badd man you be!

Not one Muslim to answer the questions?

Me too, I've been waiting for all of them o!

Imagine an exam where students score 0%.

What kind of teacher has been teaching them?
LOL!

See as the whole of the Muslims on NL keep quiet like ghost house!


Simple Questions that shouldn't take more than five minutes to answer.
SMH!

advocatejare:
We shall continue to pray for him.

LegalfWolf I bind every demon blocking your eyes and your mind to see the true gospel in Jesus Christ’s name!

Amen in JESUS mighty name

LegalWolf:
Hahahaha Christ - purportedly being a Christian god - cannot save those who saw him, spoke with him, ate with. It is now me that he’ll save. Joke on you potential thief TenQ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Finish it please!

LegalWolf, from my heart, I pray for you that your eyes be opened and that the TRUTH of God enters your heart.

You think I do this because I hate Muslims!?
No! Not one bit.
How can I hate people created in God's image whom the Great Deceiver himself has perfected his 419 on them?

Love cannot be separated from Truth. For you to know the Truth of Christ, you first have to be weaned from the LIES of Islam!
Islam promises you a Pseudo-Salvation unfortunately, the end is destruction in the fire of hell.

AntiChristian:
Luke 22:36-38

It is very funny as well as pathetic the way Christians tend to twist the bible and end up giving themselves headache. according to the gospel of Luke 22:36-38;
36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.
38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

Jesus ordered his disciples to sell their garments if they have no sword, the sword were later presented to him. Different christian with different holy spirit give the verses different interpretations. Many claim the sword as used in those verses does not mean a literal sword but a word of God.

Funny enough, a disciple of Jesus cut off one of the soldiers ear with a sword...erhm erhm, no, with a word of God. You may wonder how a word of God is sharp enough to cut off someone's ear except it is a sword in actual sense. The disciples had words at the command of Jesus who was making defensive plans against his enemies. There is no way Peter could have held a sword without Jesus knowing, he must have at a point in time seen him with it. It may baffle someone as to why Jesus cautioned Paul that anyone who kills by the sword shall be killed by the sword. This gets more interesting, was Jesus saying anyone who kills with word of God shall die by word of God?

Jesus was a good planner and strategist as we can see how he refused to walk in Judea to avoid being killed to his prayer in the garden of Gethsemane. The disciples had few swords, Jesus, seeing how armed and dangerous the Roman soldiers looked like, he knew few swords would do nothing. So, to be on a safer side, he needs caution peter.

One can imagine the confused look peter might have worn. He would be like, 'if anyone who kills by sword shall die by sword, why ask us to get swords?

They accuse Muslims of twisting their scriptures when in reality, they are the twisters.

By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman
http://knowislam.com.ng/luke-2236-38-by-bashir-lucas.../

I don't understand what the twisting of scripture is about. The scripture states exactly what is says.

Jesus had TWELVE core disciples but He said " TWO swords are enough "!

1. What do you think this means?
Was Jesus being Literal or Speaking in Parables?
2. How do you propose the 12 Disciples share the TWO swords either for offence or defence (if it is about fighting)
3. Jesus didn't say, it remains 10 more swords! Why?


Alfa Lukas Deliberately left out the introduction , foundation and basis to the remaining passage where Jesus speaking to His disciples said:

Luk 22:35:
"And he said to them, When I sent you without purse, and money, and shoes, lacked you any thing? And they said, Nothing."

The Disciples response:
The Disciples lacked NOTHING!

Because, this was the Eve of Jesus Crucifixion, Jesus was telling them that they would be responsible for their own PROVISION, their own PROTECTION because He (Jesus) would be COUNTED amongst the TRANSGRESSORS (Criminals) according to the Scriptures.

Luk 22:37:
"For I say to you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end."


What do you say, AntiChristian?

advocatejare:
I don’t think so, I don’t think a sane person will follow a god whose wish and desire is to fill hellfire with his worshippers!
LegalWolf I hope you’re aware of this verse of your Quran where al-Makireena the best of the deceivers promised to fill hellfire with you and your likes?

“ We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, “I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together.”
-Surah 32:13

He is emotionally and psychologically immersed and chained in Islam. Until it is too late or the grace of Christ sets him free, he's down the path where the avalanche of destruction holds

LegalWolf, from my heart, I pray for you that your eyes be opened and that the TRUTH of God enters your heart.

You think I do this because I hate Muslims!?
No! Not one bit.
How can I hate people created in God's image whom the Great Deceiver himself has perfected his 419 on them?

Love cannot be separated from Truth. For you to know the Truth of Christ, you first have to be weaned from the LIES of Islam!
Islam promises you a Pseudo-Salvation unfortunately, the end is destruction in the fire of hell.