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IslamRe: Evidence That Islam Is A Man-made Religion. by TenQ: 5:54am On Aug 16, 2025
honesttalk21:
Your assertion that Kalimatullah, or the word of Allah, implies that Jesus is divine is simply not accurate. All of creation comes from Allah’s command, "Kun." If this were to suggest divinity, then Adam would also have to be considered divine, as mentioned in the Quran [3:47, 59].

In this context, "word" is used metaphorically to represent Allah’s creative command.
So, Jesus is the Creative Command of Allah?

honesttalk21:
Additionally, the phrase "Ruhun minhu," meaning spirit from Allah, does not imply that Jesus is part of God. Adam also received the “spirit from Allah” [Quran 15:29], which signifies life and honor, rather than divinity.

The term “from Him” (minhu) in Arabic conveys a sense of honor (similar to baytullāh, or “House of Allah”), rather than indicating a literal essence.
Can one be definite and sure about things that is not understood? No!

So, what is a spirit according to Islam?
Is a spirit "a living being" or "a property of a being"?

honesttalk21:
His miracles do not establish his divinity. Other prophets performed miracles as well, all by Allah’s permission. The Quran consistently states that Isa acted bi-idhnillah (“by Allah’s leave”) [Quran 3:49].
Quran 22:73
"O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued."


Did Jesus create more than a fly?

Surah Al-Imran (3:49):
"I create for you out of clay the shape of a bird, then I blow into it and it becomes a bird by Allah's permission. And I heal the blind and the leper and give life to the dead by Allah's permission. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Surely, in this is a sign for you if you are believers."


Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:110):
"When Allah will say, 'O Jesus, Son of Mary, remember My favor upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Holy Spirit, and you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and when you taught the Scripture and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and when you created from clay a bird by My permission and breathed into it, and it became a bird by My permission; and you healed the blind and the leper by My permission; and when you brought forth the dead by My permission...'"


Tell me:
Who else in the universe among Men, Jinn, Angels, Houri etc that created any living thing apart from God?


honesttalk21:
Being referred to as the Messiah does not make him God. The term “Messiah” (al-Masīḥ) is a title that means “anointed one,” indicating a blessed and chosen servant, not a divine being.
Please with Islamic Evidence either from the Qur'an, the Hadith or the Tafsir, show
1. What is the islamic meaning of the Messiah (how do you know it means "the anointed one"wink?
2. Why only Jesus is called the Messiah?



honesttalk21:
Why would God need to become man to guide humanity? The need for food, sleep, and the limitations of being human [Quran 5:75] contradict the idea of God’s perfection and self-sufficiency. Were those who were rightly guided before the time of Jesus misguided?
Who said Anything about God NEEDING to become man. LOL!!
God did NOT need to become man for anything: God became human that He can be JUST and LOVING at the same time.

Muslims are theologically "mumushious"
Sin is any Violation of the "kunfayakun" of God
The punishment for Sin is ETERNITY in Hell.
God's justice does require that SIN is punished.
But God's Love require that the Sinner is set Free from the judgement of sin.

The perfect Jesus thus became our Scapegoat AND our RANSOM for the judgement of our sin for those who will believe in God's solution.


Can the Violation of the kunfayakun of Allah be undone after it had been violated by anyone?



honesttalk21:
Did Prophet Muhammad pbuh act to oppose the earlier prophets of God? Not at all. He was the finality of the same message from God to mankind from the time of Adam on earth. Then where and who did he copy from? Do you have any proof of just repeat the general unsubstantiated rhetoric?
What did Jesus say about Divorce as an instance?
Mk 10:12:
"And if a woman shall divorce her husband, and be married to another, she commits adultery.""


What does your prophet say about Divorce?
A rashly divorced woman (by her husband ) who even wants to return to her husband CANNOT even return except if another man "boreholed" her first.

Is this the same commandment?
Is this not a contradiction?

Jesus said:
John 6:44:
"No man can come to me, except the Father which has sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."


Was this also what your prophet taught?

Is this not a contradiction?

Jesus called us who believed in Him " Son's of God"
Mat 5:45:
"That you may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust."

John 1:12-13:
"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."


In contrast
Mohammed taught that Allah does NOT have children!

Is this not a contradiction?
IslamRe: Evidence That Islam Is A Man-made Religion. by TenQ: 3:46am On Aug 16, 2025
NeoWanZaeed:
You are extremely ignorant of what Islam is. Extremely seriously ignorant. Continue bathing in your ignorance.

Muslims don't pray to black stone or use it as an intercession while making dua.
So, tell me why you either kiss it or point your fingers to it during hajj as an act of worship (I didn't say you bow down to it)?
Does the stone intercede for you?

So, why do you kiss an ordinary black stone as an act of worship.?

Note:
An idol is a physical object that stands as an intermediary to the Deities and perform his functions

Is the black stone not your IDOL per this definition?
NeoWanZaeed:
Allah is not jesus lol. Allah is the creator, he's not creation. Allah has absolutely nothing in common with any of his creations. Allah is not human..

Laughing.. Christians are so funny. Their god left heaven, turn to human to be killed by his creation while he's also the son of himself
Laughing
The Christian God is not like ANYTHING or ANYONE in creation. Thus, He can leave heave and still be in heaven while on earth he is killed but still remains alive and be a father to himself. Is there any creature that can be this at the same time?

Can you please answer my question:
Does Allah have the power to become Human and still remain Almighty?



Talk is cheap:
Other than claims, can you prove that Allah is the creator? An Indian Hindu can claim that Vishnu is the creator: is Vishnu the same as Allah?
IslamRe: Evidence That Islam Is A Man-made Religion. by TenQ: 5:49pm On Aug 15, 2025
NeoWanZaeed:
Laughing.. in 21st century. You are still talking without knowledge or proof lol
No wonder you believe a human being is your god and he's 3 in 1.. laise mario lol
You Islamabads can tell lies for Africa.

No Christian believe that a human being is our God. What we know is that God became Human. Is Qur'an 5:72 a verse in ignorance or you are the one peddling a "strawman" argument ?


Does Allah have the power to become Human and still remain Almighty?







Now back to to the issue you dodged and didn't want to discuss
An idol is a physical object that stands as an intermediary to the Deities and perform his functions

By this definition isn't the Black stone your IDOL?
IslamRe: Evidence That Islam Is A Man-made Religion. by TenQ: 5:41pm On Aug 15, 2025
butterfly777:
No one can submit to the Creator except through Jesus Christ. Jesus is the only way to God.
Perfectly said!

There is no salvation in any other name EXCEPT the Name of Jesus Christ.
IslamRe: Evidence That Islam Is A Man-made Religion. by TenQ: 6:21am On Aug 15, 2025
NeoWanZaeed:
Laughing.. in 21st century. You are still talking without knowledge or proof lol
No wonder you believe a human being is your god and he's 3 in 1.. laise mario lol
What is an idol?

Is it not a physical object representing a DEITY or it's function?

By this definition, is the Black stone not your IDOL?
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by TenQ: 6:36pm On Aug 14, 2025
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Offers Putin Alaska’s Rare Earth Minerals In Exchange For Ending War by TenQ: 3:47pm On Aug 14, 2025
WriteerNg:
I know you're pained. The US should stick to fighting ragtag Houthis please.

The US have never in its history fought a country as large and powerful as Ukraine.

You should be ashamed.
The one who is pained is the one whose life revolves around daily monitoring the newest thing with Putin and Russia.

Sorry
IslamRe: Evidence That Islam Is A Man-made Religion. by TenQ: 3:45pm On Aug 14, 2025
AntiChristian:
Islam is the religion all Prophets of Allah practised from Adam, Noah till the last of them Muhammad.
Noah, Abraham, Moses, Aaron, and all others were Muslims!
Talk is cheap!
Where is your evidence?

How do you know ANY of these prophets if not plagiarized from the people of the Book?

AntiChristian:
This doesn't change the above fact that Islam was what was sent to him. The laws may vary!
Islam is a UNIFICATION of Deities and UNIFICATION off the Religions of the Jews, the Christians, the Sabians etc and myths of the ancients.

There is not one EVIDENCE of Allah in the Qur'an other than CLAIMS of one guy you Muslims call Mohammed.


AntiChristian:
The Qur'an was recited during the Prophet's lifetime though not compiled in one script. It was compiled in one script less than two years after the Prophet died.
This is UNTRUE!
The Qur'an was collected in the LIFETIME of your prophet. It was even written on clothes!
LOL!




AntiChristian:
This still does not negate the fact that the only religion acceptable to Allah our creator is Islam!
The only true thing you said about your supposed creator Allah! The only religion he claims to accept is Islam.

Let me ask you a question :
Does Allah accept the religion of the Jews (Judaism) at least they are not Muslims!
IslamRe: Evidence That Islam Is A Man-made Religion. by TenQ: 10:40am On Aug 14, 2025
NeoWanZaeed:
Laughing Out Loud..


Man made religion.. and it's the only religion that's not worshipping a supernatural human being dubbed as GOD.


Laughing..

On a logical level, you are too wrong


Laughing
But one of their Idols is the Black stone!
An intermediary between them and Allah!
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Offers Putin Alaska’s Rare Earth Minerals In Exchange For Ending War by TenQ:
Kaliningrad:
From "Russia must be defeated" to them begging for ceasefire.

And even offering Russia minerals to end war. Lol.

Them no dey use gra gra follow Russia. Na you go beg las las.

Ask Hitler & Napolean.
Wouldn't it be a shame if Nigeria waged war on Togo and we couldn't overrun it in Tree Full Years!?

Shameless Bully.
Putin should have faced China if they dare!
FamilyRe: Is My Wife Right To Ask This? by TenQ: 7:20pm On Aug 13, 2025
Israel5:
Please (even though I know my appeal with fall on deaf ears too numerous to count in this forum), approach this issue with logic and without prejudice to the people involved.

My wife and I are duly blessed with a son who is in his basic 5 now. Also, we decided to get the daughter of one of my cousin to stay with us. She is one of 7 children. So I wanted to help raise a CHIMAMANDA.

As my rule, every child of same age under my room attends the same school and calls us Dad & Mum. The school part didn't quite seat well with my wife, who had a different opinion, but I prevailed anyway. Because na me dey pay school fees.

The girl is a year older than my son, but due to the level of education at the village before she came over, we made her be in the same class as my son. She met my son in primary 2. Now they are both in basic 5.

A shocker happened: This girl keeps coming up in the class, while my son keeps running away from the top. We've tried extra lessons, even tried changing schools. Now it looks as if the girl is better suited for school than my boy. She reads, spells and memorizes things too marvellous. I bought a dictionary cos of that.

I even buy gifts for her (for coming top) more than I do for my boy, to make him sit up, but my pikin nor send me o. Guy use cry & Woman power make me buy am bicycle. 😁

I would think he's being a spoilt boy, who believes daddy & mommy is there, I don't really know. But I am hopeful.

Now, my major issue is my heavily pregnant wife. She wants the girl to be changed/enrolled at a different school. In her defence, she wants her to be available to help her take care of things. The kid's school close by 3pm. She suggest government school that close earlier. I see sense in what she said but I feel like I'll be unfair to this young girl.

When I tried to have a healthy debate on the idea. Na so madam start to dey talk plenty tins wey I nor fit type.
I have accepted to do her wish from September for peace.

Please, do you see another way I could avoid problems?

Is she right to have asked that I changed the girl's school just because she needs help around the house & her business?
If you fall for her trick, you are not as wise as your wife.

The case is simple:
Since she is just one year older than your son, she wouldn't be suitable as a help. So, get your wife a house help.

But that is not what she wants, she wants to differentiate between her child and the foreigners child. That's all!

But you started well, train that girl for God. She might become the Joke Silver or Dora Akunyili in your family
FamilyRe: Questions Young Adults Should Ask Before Choosing To Cohabit Before Marriage by TenQ: 4:49pm On Aug 13, 2025
They won't allow one to post in peace!





11 more characters needed

TravelRe: Countries With The Most Languages Spoken by TenQ: 3:20pm On Aug 13, 2025
maisauki:
Should they have excluded them 🤔

Never forget, if you trace history far enough, each 'indigenous tribe/race' moved there

QED
Yes, they should have excluded them for better statistics.

Example:
Is Hindu one of the languages spoken in Nigeria?
Is Taiwanese one of the languages spoken in Nigeria?

The answer to the two questions is NO!

However, I know we have several Indians and several Taiwanese in Nigeria.
HealthRe: My Wife's Serious Fertility Issue Is Affecting My Mental Health by TenQ: 2:25pm On Aug 13, 2025
KobeMan:
Thank You for this, Please do you have any Reliable Herbal fertility treatment or contact That works? I'll really appreciate it.
You will waste your time and money with herbal and non surgical procedures.

Downomike has given you the best advice.
Please follow it
dawnomike:
I understand how you feel bro... But, first calm down.
It is not as bad as it sounds... You both just have to determine to work through this challenges together.
First and foremost, go and register for a comprehensive HMO (choose a package that covers major surgery). This will greatly reduce the medical bills and make things easier for both of you.
Discuss with the gynaecologist on the best way to proceed with the necessary medications and surgery then go for it.

Your wife needs you now more than ever before... You can reach out for moral support at anytime and any day by just mentioning me in your comments.

I wish you all the best and the strength to weather the storm!!!
What happens if the case was reversed and you are the one with zero sperm count?

No one determines these things o.

Everyone in the world have their own medical challenge. Your wife needs all the encouragement now and of course, nothing is beyond prayers
TravelRe: Countries With The Most Languages Spoken by TenQ: 7:57am On Aug 13, 2025
maisauki:
Source
https://x.com/World_Insights1/status/1953749197574090873?s=19[/quote]USA – 430 languages!

The statistics wrong as it includes all immigrants and not just the local speaker!
PoliticsRe: Why PDP Agreed To Wike’s Demands by TenQ: 1:46pm On Aug 11, 2025
Bubbyboo2:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/08/why-pdp-agreed-to-wikes-demands-sources/
Everything they are doing is how Atiku will win the presidential race in 2027.

1. If PDP agrees to zone presidency to the South, then Atiku rolls to a free ride in ADC
2. PDP will rob Tinubu of many votes in the South by dividing Southern votes between Obi and whoever PDP will finally present..


Politicians are strategic when it comes to elections BUT extremely dumb when it concerns long term national development.
Christianity EtcRe: Dear Jerry Eze, Wearing Boxers To The Gym Is WRONG! by TenQ: 2:50am On Aug 10, 2025
Daejumong:
I can’t understand how a man would be wearing boxers outside the bedroom. This guy needs a good management team around him. The problem many African pastors have is that people are afraid to correct them believing they are higher beings who are answerable only to God. This creates a great problem for the pastor who can easily get self conceited and lose it yet people will keep hailing. Pastors must be answerable to elders in the church and the congregation. That is the way to keep the system healthy!
But he can play football in this abi
He can also run 100m, 200m or 400m track race in this!?
PoliticsRe: Lere Olayinka Reacts After Sule Lamido Said Jonathan Is PDP’s Best Bet For 2027 by TenQ: 2:44am On Aug 10, 2025
TimeManager:
He's speaking the mind of Wike, methinks Wike will strongly be opposed to the idea of GEJ coming back. Some people brought up the idea of Obi retuning to PDP but the idea flew out if the window as quickly as it came. It seems GEJ stands a better chance but Wike will definitely have a say here.

-Kiss the truth!
GEJ is being used by the north to dilute Wike's and subsequently Tinubu's influence in the S-S I. 2027 elections

He should know that the Northerners will not vote for him and leave Atiku
He should know that the Westerners will not vote
for him and leave Tinubu
He should know that the Easterners will not vote for him and leave Obi


They just want to collect his money and dilute Wike's influence in the South -South
PoliticsRe: GEJ Wants To Run Again, What Did He Do In SS, He Is Not Our Brother - Amaechi by TenQ: 7:50pm On Aug 09, 2025
fergie001:
You said in 2015 in Calabar, that Jonathan is not your brother. Can you say the same in 2025?

Rotimi Amaechi on X space;
If it is indeed true that Jonathan wants to run again, his advisers truly hate him.

He should know that the Northerners will not vote for him and leave Atiku
He should know that the Westerners will not vote
for him and leave Tinubu
He should know that the Easterners will not vote for him and leave Obi

They just want to collect his money and dilute Wike's influence in the South -South
CareerRe: Only 8% of Nigerians Earn Above ₦250,000 - Ibrahim Suleiman by TenQ: 7:42pm On Aug 09, 2025
Softmirror:
Go back and read what I wrote and try your best to understand it.
Toddlers!!
They never change!!

Have a good night rest
CareerRe: Only 8% of Nigerians Earn Above ₦250,000 - Ibrahim Suleiman by TenQ: 4:54pm On Aug 09, 2025
Raskimonojendor:
Lol. I have travelled to Ghana, Morocco, Benin Republic, Egypt, and South Africa. I am currently traveling through the US.

Do you even know Nigeria has one of the cheapest petrol in Africa, yet we are so entitled. You want the government to keep subsidizing every gaddemn thing.

Guy Nigeria, is poor and most African countries are even poorer.
We have the cheapest petrol because we own the raw crude. Other nations import.
Our earning power is so low that when you compare a citizen's average income to the price of petrol in Naira, Petrol is very expensive.

You are looking at Dollar equivalent of how much we pay without comparing it with our relative income.

To understand this:
Compare the minimum wage in USA with the Minimum wage of Nigerians converted into Dollars.

Tell me,
In America Cost of Petrol= $0.93 per litre
In Nigeria, Cost of Petrol= N950 or 0.56 USD per litre

Minimum wage in USA= @the rate of 7.25/hour for a 40 hour work per week will give us = approx $1300 per month

Minimum wage in Nigeria= N70,000 per month which is approximately $45.71 per month

NOW,
1. An American earning minimum wage can buy in America 1,396 litres of Petrol with his total salary
2. A Nigerian earning minimum wage can buy in Nigeria 80 litres of Petrol with his total salary




So, do you still think that the average Nigerian is POOR or Entitled?
CareerRe: Only 8% of Nigerians Earn Above ₦250,000 - Ibrahim Suleiman by TenQ: 4:36pm On Aug 09, 2025
Softmirror:
In a minute, in an hour, in a day, in a week, in a month, in a year? Which one?!

I assume you mean monthly.

Because if it is based on unconventional jobs, brown collar jobs, business and enterprise Nigerians earn so much in a day which the cumulative at the end of the month is hug, far above #250,000. #250,000 a month is just #8,350 a day. Start with Okada riders sef .
You are probably looking only at Lagos state.

Even in Abuja, some schools are paying Graduate Teachers N40,000 per month
SportsRe: D'Tigress' Home Grown Players And The Popularity Of Basketball In Nigeria by TenQ: 11:28am On Aug 09, 2025
Amotolongbo:
Basketball was popular and is still popular but not as football.
The reason I think it is not so popular in Nigeria like football is the more complexity in the game facility setup for recreation in our local communities. For football you could easily put two stones together on any ground with few metres between them and call it a goal post, game don start be that. It is not like that for basketball where you need smooth screed for ball to bounce and you can’t hang basket on trees for “pikins” to start aiming the inside of the basket.
I think that the problems also because of our low average height. Few people are up to 6feet which is a short height for professional basketball unlike football where the average height of 5feet5 inches is good to go.
Foreign AffairsRe: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by TenQ: 11:18am On Aug 09, 2025
tobtap:
Putin my guy... Russia no send anyone.. but peace is needed in Ukraine.. too many unnecessary deaths
Yes death caused by Putin
Foreign AffairsRe: Iran Executes Nuclear Scientist For Spying For Israel by TenQ: 2:35pm On Aug 07, 2025
Bigchris01:
That question should be directed to you, what is strategic about Israeli moves of attacking Iran? With all indications Isreal started this whole war with Iran so what’s strategic about their moves? If you want to start that Iran can’t have Nuclear weapon blah blah blah stuff which America 🇺🇸 and Israel usually ditch to you people then you must be living in old days, last time I checked US is the only country that has successfully Nuke a country with nuclear weapon so what are you going to explain to me that Iran is a terrorist country meanwhile y’all neglected the revelation of Senator Scott Perry about USAID funding terrorist organizations In Nigeria and Iran was never mentioned, so let that sink
I am not talking about the Politics of their problem BUT the strategy of war

What was strategic about Iran's move on Israel?
What was strategic about Israel's move on Iran?


In eery war, winning a strategic battle outways Attrition objectives!
RomanceRe: Marrying Into A Rich Family by TenQ: 7:46am On Aug 07, 2025
Mariangeles:
"A day with my father in-law love it!"
He has probably never spent a whole day with his own father.

What men like this won't tell anyone is how they're ass-kissing errand boys for their wives' family.
They can call them at any time, and they have no choice but to answer.
This online rant is to console himself, and "pepper" the unsuspecting.
Marry Dangote's daughter and tell me you did not ass-lick the Father.

Who born you!
Foreign AffairsRe: Iran Executes Nuclear Scientist For Spying For Israel by TenQ: 7:31am On Aug 07, 2025
Bigchris01:
This was how y’all hyped Israel before Iran almost finished them by sending missiles into their territory like fireworks, take it or leave it Iran will go extra length to protect their territory this is not Palestine oo, if nor be say US quickly quench that matter by now you the online hypeman go don even collect missiles continue hyping nonsense 😂💔
What was strategic about Iran's move on Israel?
What was strategic about Israel's move on Iran?


The truth lies there sir
RomanceRe: Before You Believe "No Sex Till Marriage" In A Relationship by TenQ: 7:23am On Aug 07, 2025
RillJ:
An acquittance fell for this scheme some 6 years ago and he is still somehow distressed about the outcome till date.
Dude was met the beautiful 'well behaved' lady in her early 30s who insisted on 'no sex till marriage'. Three years prior, her 'one and only boyfriend broke her hearth after 7years of dating ' hence she vowed that she will not sleep with any other man except her 'husband'
They dated for 18months and got married only for my pal to get the 'shocker of his life' when they eventually slept together.
According to him, it was a 'severely damaged..... that he wonder home he managed to get through the first and only shot. Luckily for the lady, she got pregnant with the one shot (suspect she targeted the ovulation cos she used all manners of excuses to stay off the show for 5 days after the wedding)
All pleas to my pal to forgive and move on with the marriage fell on deaf ears. They separated after the birth of their baby girl and have since divorced.

In rare cases, some men do run the script to hide erectile disfunction.
Sex does not make the puna loose. There are just TWO things. It is biologically IMPOSSIBLE!

1. Genetics: She may have inherited it for her parents
2. Childbirth: after TWO or THREE especially when the pregnant woman is not young, the puma dilates
RomanceRe: Before You Believe "No Sex Till Marriage" In A Relationship by TenQ: 7:16am On Aug 07, 2025
maasoap:
Well, you took chances and you were lucky. Not everyone who took such chances was lucky
There is a SIMPLE secret to it o: it's not just by Luck.


1. Be a man of right VALUES
2. Find a Girl of SIMILAR values
3. Due diligence to Asking the Right Questions

In Agric, if your stock is good, the produce will be good with proper management. If the stock is bad, no amount of effort will change the skin of the Leopard.


The problem is when a wrong man is looking for the right girl and vise-versa!

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