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Foreign Affairs › Re: One Missile Into Russia, Hundreds Of Warheads In Return - Putin Warns by TenQ: 8:44pm On Dec 12, 2022
lhordspy:
I have said this so many times.

Only cowards hide using a proxy war to fight its enemy. What is the essence of the billions of dollars of military equipment that US and its allies are afraid to allow ukraine fire them into Russia's territory?

Cowards can only keep arming ukraine in a clout-chasing show of force and support. The day Ukraine will mistaknely fire any rocket into Mother Russia territory. That will be the end of them(Ukraine) , the US, NATO in general and its puppets called allies.

It doesnt matter whatever you do in life. But always remember and have it at the back of your mind; never to poke the bear.
So, you think it is justifiable that a neighboring country invade a sovereign country in other to de-Nazify them? Did Ukraine ask for help from Russia?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was Muhammad Afraid Of The Judgement Day If He Was A True Prophet? by TenQ: 8:21pm On Dec 12, 2022
advocatejare:
1. Why was Muhammad terrified of the judgment day if he was really sent by God?

2. If his deeds were good, why would he be afraid of
giving an account of his life to the God he allegedly
had a relationship with?


3. Other prophets waited eagerly to see the day of
the Lord, they knew where they were going.

4. If he was a true prophet of God, he wouldn't be scared of an eclipse!

5. This is a proof that Muhammad knew what the Bible says about the judgement day and he was terrified because he didn't qualify! After all, he acknowledged he didn't know what would be done to him on the last day or where he was going! (Surah 46:9)
LegalWolf, Antichristian, Vanessa7 and haekymbahd: some questions needs answers from you o!

1. Why was Mohammed AFRAID of the day of judgment when he's the one to grant passage and forgiveness to you Muslims?
2. As Muslims, are you confident for the destination Islam is taking you to?

I stop here. Please answer the OP's questions o!
Christianity Etc › Re: Weird Belief 2 - From Trinity to Duality by TenQ: 5:21pm On Dec 12, 2022
AntiChristian:
I have never questioned you on the heretic materials you use! I see no reason why you should act like a wild kid telling me you'll use so and so material!
Use whatever you like! If i have time i will keep proving your lies/inanities!
Thanks for your advice. I don't want you to have any excuse before "awon omo ile kewu" when the run coming to you for explanations to what TenQ said. It would be too convenient for you to say, "Don't mind him, he is using Shia sources!". I am okay to use your sahih hadiths and Tafsirs of Sunni Muslims.

AntiChristian:
Yeah, we know Jesus was learned That's why much of his life is unknown in the Bible! Only about 5 years out of 33 years of Jesus is recorded in the Bible.
And Qutham aka Mohammed lived for 40 years with nothing known about him!?
You want to tell us some history!?

AntiChristian:
Where and when did i give you my preferred rendition? What if my rendition is Queen James Bible?
Did you say this
AntiChristian:
Actually, the comma in the above sentence you quoted was put there by trinitarians!
Luke 23:43: "And Jesus said unto him, truly I say unto you Today, shalt thou be with me in paradise."
This is called the fallacy of accent
Luke 23:43 (NASB) says, "And he said to him, 'Truly I say to you, today you shall be with me in Paradise,'" indicating that Jesus will be with the malefactor in Paradise later that same day. But if the comma is moved to the other side of "today," an entirely different emphasis results: "Truly I say to you today, you shall (in the future) be with me in Paradise." This is, in fact the correct rendering.
Your prefered rendering
AntiChristian:
After death, na grave then Judgment!
“Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. John 5:28-29

“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. Matthew 25: 31-34
Is this not the resurrection (Recombining of the soul and spirit of man with his physical body)?
Are you insinuating that at death (just as the JW), a person is in oblivion?


AntiChristian:
Yes it is.
I think i have told you taking one or two verses and dropping other verses about a point will only make you present falsehood!
Allah says "Verily, the likeness of 'Iesa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was." (Qur'an 3:59)

O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah aught but the truth. The Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Ruh) created by Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allah is (the only) One Ilah (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is All­ Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs. (Qur'an 4:171)
Two verses Quran 21:91 and Quran 66:12 agree with each other and Quran 3:59 is a contradiction.
Is the command to "BE" the same as LIFTING UP Mary's garment and BLOWING into her Vagina ?

If it is NOT a contradiction please explain:
Did Allah first lift up Marys garment, then blowing into her Vagina the same as command "BE"!
OR
Which of the two sets of action happened first?

Please, deal with the OBVIOUS contradiction.

AntiChristian:
What do you mean by the "attribute of God" dying?
Attribute is a quality or feature regarded as a characteristic or inherent part of someone or something.
How can death be used to qualify it?
God's Power
God's Word
God's Spirit
God's Knowledge
God's Life
God's Prescience
These are all attributes of God

Can ANY of the attributes of God CEASE to exist?

AntiChristian:
I am not the one to prove anything here! Bring your evidence that Allah said he is what you claim!
It is said in your Bible that God is spirit and all those who worship Him must do so in spirit John 4:24.

Allah is not a "Spirit"!
The spirit or soul is not one of the attributes of Allaah, rather it is one of the things that have been created by Allaah. It is mentioned in conjunction with Allaah in some texts by way of honouring, for Allaah is its Creator and Sovereign, He takes it (in death) whenever He wills and He sends it whenever He wills.

What we say about the spirit is the same as what we say about the “House of Allaah”, the “she-camel of Allaah”, the “slaves of Allaah” and the “Messenger of Allaah”. All of these created things are mentioned in conjunction with Allaah by way of honouring.
Prove from the Quran that Allah is NOT a Spirit! QED
Otherwise, it is a conjecture
Quran 17:85
They ask you about "the spirit". Say: "The spirit descends by the command of my Lord, but you have been given only a little knowledge."


Let me help you out from the Quran
A. What is the "Spirit" (Ruh) in the Qur'an:
The Spirit is a singular entity in the Qur'an as follows:

The Spirit is from God's Command and we know little about it (17:85)
The Spirit brings the revelation to the Prophet's heart (26:192-195)
The Spirit belongs to God and He calls it "My Spirit" (15:28-29)
The angels are all connected to the Spirit; in another sense, the Spirit is the centre of all the angels (78:38)
God helps the Prophets like Jesus with the Spirit (2:87, 2:253, 5:110)
Jesus is called the "Spirit from Him" (4:171)
God inspired the Prophet Muhammad with the Spirit (42:52)
God strengthens the believers with the Spirit (16:102. 58:22)
God sends down the Spirit from His Command upon his Servants (16:2, 40:15)
God breathed into Mary from the Spirit (21:19, 66:12)
The Spirit can take on a human image or form (19:17)
The Spirit both descends from God and ascends to God (70:4, 97:4)
God sent the Qur'an with the Spirit (16:102, 26:193)
God breathed into Adam "from My Spirit" (min ruhee). Note this is different from God breathing the Spirit as a whole into Adam. (15:29, 38:72)
B. What is the "Soul" (nafs) in the Qur'an:

The soul has been created and proportioned by God (91:cool
God has inspired the soul with the knowledge of what is right and wrong (91:9)
The one who succeeds is he who has purified and caused his soul to grow (91:8-12)
The soul will be judged in the hereafter and will receive what it has earned (2:281, 3:25, 3:30)
The soul is capable of commanding one to do evil (12:53, 50:16, 79:40)The soul is capable of censoring itself (75:2)
The soul at peace is admitted into Paradise (89:27)Good deeds are done for the soul`s benefit (2:223)
The soul can be strengthened through spending in God`s way (2:265)
The soul will taste and experience death (3:185)
The soul can wrong or or destroy ruin itself, or commit sins and then seek pardon (4:110, 6:12, 6:20, 7:53, 9:42)
The soul has desires (5:70) Allah receives souls when they die (39:42)
https://ask.ismailignosis.com/article/122-soul-nafs-and-spirit-ruh


AntiChristian:
Quote evidences with reference for your claims! That's how we know you are not telling lies!

Sometimes 'al-Nafs' means 'al-Rooh' (the soul), as the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) mentioned in the long Hadith describing the state while one breathing his last. 'The angel stands at the head of a dying person and says: "O good peaceful soul, come out to the rest and provision of Allah'. The Angel says, If the dying person is a Kafir', 'O bad malicious soul, come out to the Anger of Allah …" . [Reported by Ahmad ].
Sometimes 'al-Nafs' means both the body and soul. The evidence for that is Allah's Statement: {… And they did not wrong Us but they wronged (Their Nafs) i.e. themselves.} [ Qur'an 2: 57]
Your evidence above: enough Quran to support. LOL!
Ruh means the Spirit
Nafs can mean either the SOUL or the union of the BODY and SOUL


AntiChristian:
When Adam was created where did you see Body, soul and spirit? All those claims are unfounded! The best explanation is that soul=Spirit even from your Bible.
Anyways, i await your proofs from the Qur'an cos i haven't seen any!
After you show me that according to Islam the Ruh or the Nafs of a person is VISIBLE!

AntiChristian:
Word of Allah i.e. the Qur'an, Injeel, etc. Books have no Soul. Hence they can't die! Every creation will die!
Allah has no spirit! So this question is faulty!
Every creation will die! This includes messengers!
Don't be a dummy!
You very well know that I refer not to BOOKS. Is your Allah's words bound only in books? Does Allah not SPEAK?
Is the Word of Allah not an Attribute of Allah?
The Word of Allah is the SPOKEN WORDS OF ALLAH!

So, can the Spoken Words of Allah EXTINGUISH/CEASE TO EXIST (DIE)?

AntiChristian:
Waste of time!
وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ ==And his WORD
وَرُوحٌۭ مِّنْهُ ۖ == And a SPIRIT from him

Quran 4:171
يَـٰٓأَهْلَ ٱلْكِتَـٰبِ لَا تَغْلُوا۟ فِى دِينِكُمْ وَلَا تَقُولُوا۟ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلْحَقَّ ۚ إِنَّمَا ٱلْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ٱبْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ أَلْقَىٰهَآ إِلَىٰ مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌۭ مِّنْهُ ۖ فَـَٔامِنُوا۟ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦ ۖ وَلَا تَقُولُوا۟ ثَلَـٰثَةٌ ۚ ٱنتَهُوا۟ خَيْرًۭا لَّكُمْ ۚ إِنَّمَا ٱللَّهُ إِلَـٰهٌۭ وَٰحِدٌۭ ۖ سُبْحَـٰنَهُۥٓ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٌۭ ۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِى ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ ۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِيلًۭا ١٧١

Jesus is the Word (singular) from Allah and
Jesus is a Spirit from Allah

You said: Allah has no spirit.
In other words, we cant say : spirit of/from Allah


Arnet you contradicting the Quran?


AntiChristian:
How can a Book die?
The Qur’an is the word of Allah, may He be exalted, and is not created

What is meant by that is that Allah, may He be exalted, spoke the words of the Qur’an, which Jibreel (peace be upon him) heard from Him, and brought down to the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), and conveyed it to him.

All of the attributes of Allah, may He be exalted, are uncreated; they are eternal, with no beginning. The words of Allah are among these attributes, and that includes the Qur’an. Therefore the scholars said that the Qur’an is not created, because it is the words of Allah, and that is one of His attributes.

With regard to people’s actions, they are created. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“While Allah has created you and what you do [or make]” [as-Saaffaat 37:96]
I'm sure you know that I speak NOT about the Book in your Hands. I speak about the Speech of Allah in the Quran! Since I don't know your sect within the Sunni Muslims, can you kindly answer these two questions!

Are you saying that the Quran is NOT Eternal? (When was the Quran Created?)
And the Quran is not in the Book in Heaven? ( أمّ الکتاب )

Now that you know the difference between the Ruh and the Nafs, and you know the meaning of the Word as SPEECH of Allah, please answer these questions hoping that you also realize that NOT one SINGLE attribute of God can depreciate nor be extinguished,
The major Question I asked was (I've helped you to dilute the question a little)
If it is true that Jesus died,
1. Can the Word of/from Allah die?
2. Can the Spirit of/from Allah die?


The answer is simpler than you realize!
PEACE!
Christianity Etc › Re: Weird Belief 2 - From Trinity to Duality by TenQ: 2:47pm On Dec 12, 2022
MrCodeSolo:
the Christianity you all church-goers are practicing is called
pagan-christianity that's how Judaism sees you people. in
same breathe you will say Jesus is God, so your God died on
the cross in exchange for what exactly...? In the same breathe
again you will say he himself based on the idea of trinitarian
belief he is his own son...even your Bible can't tell the exact
instrument he died on....the adoption of the cross symbol into
Christianity was 100% a pagan relic. been there before and
done that...I rather take my chances at following the path i feel
at peace with than be spiritually brainwashed with obscured
confusions
So, next time I call you out to speak about Islam that gives you peace, don't hide and pretend you didn't see me!

Ka ji ko?
LOL!
Christianity Etc › Re: Weird Belief 2 - From Trinity to Duality by TenQ: 2:25pm On Dec 12, 2022
AntiChristian:
Mention who dey were deities to as the time the Biblical narration was made?

Satan is not the Elohim of this world!

Behold, to the Lord your God belong heaven and the highest heavens, the earth and all that is in it. Deuteronomy 10:14

The earth is the Lord’s, and all it contains,
The world, and those who dwell in it. Psalm 24:1

In whose hand are the depths of the earth,
The peaks of the mountains are His also.
The sea is His, for it was He who made it,
And His hands formed the dry land. Psalm 95:4-5

Moses said to him, “As soon as I go out of the city, I will spread out my hands to the Lord; the thunder will cease and there will be hail no longer, that you may know that the earth is the Lord’s. Exodus 9:29

It shall come about when the soles of the feet of the priests who carry the ark of the Lord, the Lord of all the earth, rest in the waters of the Jordan, the waters of the Jordan will be cut off, and the waters which are flowing down from above will stand in one heap.” Joshua 3:13

See illogical excuses!

So because people see them as deity then your God that inspired the Bible too called them Elohim?
Makes no sense!
Of course the Creator of the Earth and everything within it OWNS the earth.
2Cor 4:4:
"In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine to them."


Why is EVIL prevalent in this world? Is it not because people follow the dictates of Satan their god?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 2:17pm On Dec 12, 2022
AntiChristian:
You still brought this half baked knowledge here again!
I once told you this is false!
You still repeat it hear again!

Well, everyone will now see you as a liar!

Allah!
Al-hamdu-l-Allah becomes Alhamdulillah by contraction!
Bismi- Allah become Bismillah!

In Yoruba contraction called Isunki ati aranmo wo apere ni sale:
Ile + Ise= Ileese
Ara +Oko= Arooko

Bu + Obe= Bube
Ewe + Oko = Eweko
Stop fooling yourself. Arabic is the language of Allah and it is different from Yoruba language.

There is no contraction anywhere:
Alhamdudi-Lah

Bismil-Lah

Even Mohammed's father's name (an Idolater) is
Abdul-Lah
Meaning servant of Lah

Tell us who Lah is?
Politics › Re: 2023: Tinubu's Allies Worried Over Buhari's Attitude - TV Independent by TenQ: 9:28am On Dec 12, 2022
Uptoyou:
I'm not a fan of Buhari but I believe he may stay neutral in 2023 election from his attitude.

You are not reading the handwriting well o!


Buhari is behind ATIKU!

Everything is being done covertly to kill APC under Tinubu and hijack PDP. Just watch!

Have you noticed that ATIKU has been so careful to attack APCand Buhari. He is doing his campaign without mentioning the failures of APC under Buhari.

He who has ears!

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 9:20am On Dec 12, 2022
haekymbahd:
Your assertions means nothing to me.. ilah means god while Al-ilah means the god which by contraction shortened to Allah.

Yes Allah means the deity also in Islam and it is also the name we call the creator because he is the only one there is no other diety except him..

For your information my God does not have an only name.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"And to Allah belong the best names, so invoke Him by them. And leave [the company of] those who practice deviation concerning His names. They will be recompensed for what they have been doing."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 180)
You have told me what ilah is. You've also said what Allah is and you said Allah doesn't have only one name. Is LAH therefore one of the names of Allah or another deity entirely!?



The question I've been asking is who is the LAH

I've asked you, when you say
Bismillah (Arabic: بسم لله)
OR
Alhamdulillah (Arabic: ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّٰهِ, )

Please answer, Who is Lah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Weird Belief 2 - From Trinity to Duality by TenQ: 8:59am On Dec 12, 2022
AntiChristian:
So explain how Satan, Moses and Angel qualify as Elohim in the Bible?
Because they are deities to men as they are revered for their supernatural attributes!

When men sometimes see angels, don't they tremble before them?

Doesn't pharaoh tremble because of the supernatural powers of Moses?

Isn't satan the god of this world?
Christianity Etc › Re: Weird Belief 2 - From Trinity to Duality by TenQ:
AntiChristian:
Deity is something worthy of worship! More like God!
In your Bible, Elohim can mean Satan, Angel, gods, God or Human!

Only God is the deity! Others are not!
Do you want to Redefine a word to suit what you desire? Anything worshiped is a deity! All the gods of the ATR are deities?

There is only one True Deity - the Creator of Everything.

However, deities are anything revered for Worship or their supernatural nature's or abilities/attributes.

DICTIONARY:
Definition
1a: the rank or essential nature of a god : DIVINITY
: GOD sense 1, SUPREME BEING
2: a god (see GOD entry 1 sense 2) or goddess
//the deities of ancient Greece
3: one exalted or revered as supremely good or powerful


What does your own dictionary call deity?
Christianity Etc › Re: Weird Belief 2 - From Trinity to Duality by TenQ: 8:32am On Dec 12, 2022
AntiChristian:
Deity is something worthy of worship! More like God!
In your Bible, Elohim can mean Satan, Angel, gods, God or Human!

Only God is the deity! Others are not!
Do you want to Redefine a word to suit what you desire?

There is only one True Deity - the Creator of Everything.

However, deities are anything revered for Worship.

DICTIONARY:
Definition
1a: the rank or essential nature of a god : DIVINITY
: GOD sense 1, SUPREME BEING
2: a god (see GOD entry 1 sense 2) or goddess
//the deities of ancient Greece
3: one exalted or revered as supremely good or powerful


What does your own dictionary call deity?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 8:06am On Dec 12, 2022
haekymbahd:
They do call God as Allah..
The God of the Christian Arab is Yahweh, Allah mean Deity for Arab Christians.

In islam , does Allah mean "the-Deity" or Allah is the proper name of you Deity?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op):
I apologise my error, the Arabic says Allah. I used a transliteration that ended with -llah
The declaration, in its shortest form, reads:
لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
lā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāh,

haekymbahd:
Did you just lie?

Ash-hadu An lā ʾilāha ʾillā-Allāh is the right word



There is no deity except Allah. [correct statement]


Mark 15
34. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which is translated, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”


If you are still searching for Lah check it up in the bible verse above. Allah alone I worship and him alone I call upon just as Jesus did.


"Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One,"
(QS. Al-Ikhlaas 112: Verse 1)
Are you saying that El is now Lah?
How?

You Muslims will ever surprise me.

One of these days I'm going to burst you on Allah being one. Allah isn't, he is "ONE OF" or UNION, not ONE! But this is for another day!

Back to the topic:
By Semitic language, El is God so that "Al -Lah" , would be "god Lah" same way in which the Jews will call their God as
-El-Shaddai or
-El-ohim

(I am not oblivious that Al can also mean THE- as in Allah meaning "The Deity"- "Al-Lah"; but this is a generic term not a proper name)
Either way, you are in trouble.

Sorry sir: Lah is the name of your Deity!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 7:49am On Dec 12, 2022
vannessa7:
cool

I will not do anything because like I said I reverted to islam through revelations and not by error, I know what I saw and I know what I've experienced since becoming a muslim. The letter killeth, as the bible say, it's the spirit behind it you should seek for your own rhema which is God's personal word to you in your situation and not only logos which is the written words.
Your response is saying what you have TRADED away for a solution to your problem.

BUT
You didn't answer the Question;
Do you have ANY certainty from Islam of entering Paradise?

If you do, let me know?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 7:46am On Dec 12, 2022
vannessa7:
Stop deceiving yourself that you are right, why should Yahweh be in the quran when quran was written in Arabic, God reveals Himself to any one with different names per time, that's why when you call God in your language He answers. 99 names of Allah talk about the attribute of God in arabic language. Why don't you take a break from that your church and do a personal retreat to seek the face of God and actually hear from Him yourself, because your church spirit can stop you from hearing eternal truth due to church doctrine but if you stop going for like a month but seek God's face in prayer about islam you will get your answers.
All those scriptures you quoted came before islam just like christianity came after judaism, the old testament laws was made redundant by the new testament in that no christian now kill animals all the time for forgiveness of sin and yet it was compulsory in the old testament so also the laws of islam made the new testament laws redundant, muslims don't have to do many of them such as pray in Jesus name or accept Jesus because they are all different routes to get to God and anyone you choose you will account to God how well you obeyed it tenets correctly.
This argument is lame.

1. Can you explain how even though the names of many prophets of Allah are Hebrew, they entered into the Qur'an and the name of God did not.



WHY DONT YOU ANSWER MY QUESTIONS?

I guess you should explain how some of your prophets have the name containing Yahweh and the WHOLE Quran is a STRANGER to Yahweh

English Hebrew Arabic....................................... Meaning
Elijah (English) Eliyahu (Hebrew) Ilyās(Arabic) Yahweh is my God (Meaning)

Zachariah (English) ZakarYah (Hebrew) Zakariyau(Arabic) Yahweh Remembers (Meaning)

Jesus (English) Yehoshua/Yeshua (Hebrew) Isah(Arabic) Salvation of Yahweh (Meaning)

John (English) Yahiya/Yohanan (Hebrew) Yahyah(Arabic) Yahweh is Gracious (Meaning)


Allah the God of Mohammed and you Muslims is ALIEN to Yahweh the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!

2. Just explain How Allah called his prophets with the names reflecting Yahweh and Yahweh is ABSENT in the 99 Names of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Weird Belief 2 - From Trinity to Duality by TenQ: 7:38am On Dec 12, 2022
AntiChristian:
This is not true as proven from the Bible!
First, what is your definition of deity?

And what is not true about Elohim meaning deity?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 8:12pm On Dec 11, 2022
haekymbahd:
is illah the same as Lah?
You say there is no deity except Lah!
Lah illah= there is no deity
Ila Lah= except/other than/but Lah


I've asked you, when you say
Bismillah (Arabic: بسم لله)
OR
Alhamdulillah (Arabic: ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّٰهِ, )

Please answer, Who is Lah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 8:03pm On Dec 11, 2022
haekymbahd:
They do call God as Allah..
Do Arab Christians call their Deity Lah like you Muslims?


Arab Christians don't use Lah: do they?
But you Muslims do,
So,
Who is Lah?

I've asked you, when you say
Bismillah (Arabic: بسم لله)
OR
Alhamdulillah (Arabic: ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّٰهِ, )

Who is Lah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 6:24pm On Dec 11, 2022
haekymbahd:
Ask the Arab christians?

Is illah the same as Lah?
Arab Christians don't use Lah: do they?
But you Muslims do,
So,
Who is Lah?

I've asked you, when you say
Bismillah (Arabic: بسم لله)
OR
Alhamdulillah (Arabic: ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّٰهِ, )

Who is Lah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Weird Belief 2 - From Trinity to Duality by TenQ: 5:49pm On Dec 11, 2022
AntiChristian:
I don't know why they behave like that when they know the truth!

The concept of God/god (Elohim) in the Bible is deceptive and can easily be translated as one wishes.

Son of God
In the Bible we see that Moses was God for Pharaoh, Satan is the God of the world, Sons of God came to sleep with humans, God fought Jacob and lost, Jesus is the son of God, Even you are Gods. Most of these Gods are from "Elohim" in Hebrew. Elohim which can be translated as "gods" can be used in the singular sense for God, for god, Angels, Superhuman, and for people of authority such as a Judge or ruler.

Elohim as God aka Yahweh
Take note that in Gen 1:1 In the Beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and earth. It is not Gods!

Used as gods
Now I know that the LORD (Yahweh) is greater than all other gods (Elohim), for he did this to those who had treated Israel arrogantly.” Exo 18:11 It is now gods! when referring to idols!

“Whoever sacrifices to any god (Elohim) other than the LORD (Yahweh) must be destroyed. Exo 22:20

As an Angel (Cos i don't think Jacob can fight a real God.)
“Your name will no longer be Jacob,” the man told him. “From now on you will be called Israel, because you have fought with God(Elohim) and with men and have won.” Gen 32:28

Humans are God (Elohim)
Then the LORD (Yahweh) said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God (Elohim) to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. Exo 7:1

“I said, ‘You are “gods" (Elohim); you are all sons of the Most High.’ Psalm 82:6
Elohim simply mean Deity!

It is a generic term for the god /God you worship.

It is like the English word for Deity, god/God . The context defines which God.

If a Muslim say God, he means Allah
If a Christian or Jew say God, he means Yahweh
If an Idol worshiper say God, he means his particular deity!


Same with Elohim or Eloha
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 5:33pm On Dec 11, 2022
haekymbahd:
I worship Allah and not Lah


Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One,"
(QS. Al-Ikhlaas 112: Verse 1)6
I'm not disputing with you about Allah!

I've asked you, when you say
Bismillah (Arabic: بسم الله)
OR
Alhamdulillah (Arabic: ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّٰهِ, )

Who is Lah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 4:47pm On Dec 11, 2022
haekymbahd:
Why not ask the Arab christians and Jews atleat they were referring to their God as Allah before Islam or why the Authors of Arabic bible reffered to God as Allah....

Translate Elohim to Arabic?
How do you say it in Arabic:
Thanks be to Lah.

Thanks be to Who?
Lah!
Who is Lah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 4:14pm On Dec 11, 2022
haekymbahd:
so you can talk about covenant why did Yahwe come into his creation as Jesus and not Yahwe?


Your God changed his name from Yahwe to Jesus and you are here talking about covenant.. We are not isrealite so we have no issue with any covenant..


The Jews rejected the messengers of God read the Quran yourself and see the allegations made against the Jews.. Even in the Old testament God kept warning the Jews didn't he so they disabeyed till there cup was full and another nation was chosen..

Exodus 6
2. And God spoke to Moses and said to him: “I am the Lord.

3. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God Almighty, but by My name Lord I was not known to them.



When the Arab christians and Jews stop regarding to God as Allah then I might consider replying you on the issue of name LAH..



I repeat it is Allah alone we worship and him we call upon and No where in the Quran did Allah claim he is not Yahwe but it is clear from the Quran that Allah is not Jesus...
How do you say it in Arabic:
In the name of Lah. the beneficent the merciful!

In the Name of Who?
Lah!
Who is Lah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 3:18pm On Dec 11, 2022
vannessa7:
What proof do you have that you have certainty of entering paradise?
What if I show you otherwise?


You say the bible is full of errors, okay!
The Quran is directly dictated by Allah, so it has to be perfect!
What if I can present to you five clear proofs of contradictions/errors in the Quran?

What will you do?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by TenQ: 3:09pm On Dec 11, 2022
vannessa7:
From the word of God it should not affect a born again christian but because untold errors have been introduced into christianity and what we have now is not actually God's original plan the devil knows how to exploit those loopholes, he definitely knows when anyone is breaking the laws of God so he has no reason to leave the born again christian. I battled such curses and evil until God called me into islam. Islam gets rid of all ancestral baggages and evils, TenQ have you seen this
Why don't you respond to this first!
I hardly post without justifiable proofs: I wish you can DENY these as FALSEHOOD and I will totally give up and stop posting anything on NL again.


vannessa7:
If a man left Islam to become a Buddhist and in the process, he became a billionaire, he has a fine family and living in great health, would his action be a sufficient proof that Islam is wrong and Buddha is right?

It seems you are just hiding behind the cloak of being a critic to really find out if islam is right for you. As per the above, I did not imply wealth or material gain made me believe in islam. What islam offer is more than that, it gives you instant holiness if you do it right and gives you rest from satanic harassment that is so rampant in christianity. It gives you real time result that you can see for yourself. For instance, I know a christian who told me that in his business anytime things are slow and customers are not coming he will go to the mosque to pray and on coming back he get swamped by customers and orders, he still goes to church on Sundays. I have proven this for myself too in my business, no matter what you sell you get sales whenever you say your prayers, that's by the way, I used to battle familiar spirit, spirit husband, idol power, witchcraft power etc but as soon as I came into Islam they ceased just by my regular prayers and mosque congregational prayers. I used to undergo regular deliverances in mfm and after each deliverance I would have a respite for a few months after which they would be back, I have also met several people who were strong muslims but converted to christianity after being preached to but had to run back to islam when they started experiencing warfare they didn't see in islam, all the evil they didn't know existed in their families suddenly gained power and came after them. Note that I did not decide to accept islam by myself, I had powerful revelations that convinced me, I am naturally gifted with the gift of revelations and prophecy so I know when the holy spirit talks to me, experience is still the best teacher if you really want to know.
I also mentioned Job in the bible,
I said:
Job was once told by his wife,
"...curse God and die"!
Do you for once think that the evils befalling Job was because he was serving a wrong God?

I can bet that If Job had denied God, then God would have left him alone AND his problems would have ceased because the aim of Satan in inflicting pain and difficulty on Job would have been achieved!

This earth is a school where those who are qualified to be God's children are selected from all descendants of Adam and Eve. Therefore, every human being wil run the race that is set before them. The scripture says
Heb 12:1:
"...., and let us run with perseverance the race that is set before us,"


Do you for once think that the evils befalling Job was because he was serving a wrong God?


Interestingly, the first deliverance I did outside the church setting was of a Muslim girl. Everything was wrong with her and she wasn't graduating because most of her results were not found. Right in my office i prayed for her, she started manifesting and vomiting things inside my office. Long story short, within the week, all her result were found and she made the graduation list. She came looking for me to thank me for praying for her...all praise be to Jesus. Muslims are ALSO afflicted by the devil, is this not true?

This was why I said:
If exorcism is the way to know the true religion, then we'll be confused as Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Taoism, Scientology as well as some ATRs all perform exorcism. So, if we are to base our religion as what works, we'll certainly be in trouble.

Is exorcism or deliverance a sufficient proof that a religion is sent by God?

vannessa7:
1. Why did Allah send Jesus (with all His unique attributes) to the world?
2. Do you think that Allah and Yahweh the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the same personality? Qur'an 2:133-134
3. Is the paradise of Jesus the same as the paradise of Mohammed?
4. Why did Allah (apparently) create Christianity? He Deceived both the Jews, Roman, Mary, the Apostles, Siblings and Disciples of Jesus for more than 600 years before Islam?
5. Why does Islam hate the Jews this much: even in the last day, a tree will say to the Muslim, "a Jew is hiding behind me, kill him"?
6. If Christians and Jews are in error, why did Allah promise them paradise. Even the Sabians (who worship the stars) had their place in paradise? Qur'an 2:62
7. If 10% of the reported negative character (according to the Hadiths) of Mohammed is true, can he still be a Messanger of God?
Indeed, according
I will answer your questions above one by one.
Let me comment on your responses

vannessa7:
1. My QUESTION
1.
Why did Allah send Jesus (with all His unique attributes) to the world?
YOUR RESPONSE
1. Allah made attempt to draw man to Himself after the fall of Adam establishing the first religion which is Judaism, and the covenant of Judaism is activated by keeping laws of God expressly given to His chosen people . I'm sure you are aware of Judaism as a religion, I wonder why you did not ask why christianity came even though God already gave Judaism as a way to get to Him.
Anyway, as human the people soon found ways to cut corners and not keep those laws while pretending they were keeping it, Jesus spent a whole chapter abusing the Pharisees because of this, also it was very difficult to keep those laws and breaking one if it is the same as breaking all in the sight of God so God decided they could not keep the law so he sent Jesus with grace whereby through his name they can go to God, note that i did not say through his blood because he did not die, another person was nailed to the cross and I have someone in Canada who found a very old bible in a library where it was stated Jesus was replaced, anyway, with grace came a price, your soul becomes redundant, no need for you to be holy in yourself because you rely on the holiness of Jesus so it becomes a struggle to be holy, you pray in anger and fight daily without respite, the devil lives in the church and nobody can drive him away, if you are fortunate not to have evil foundation you may not know anything until one day an enemy stand up against you then you fight and fight and soon get called into ministry if you are lucky to become a pastor you become a servant of God just like muslims are slaves of God and thus get a higher anointing which reduces your warfare while the members calling themselves sons languish, for every genuine miracle or breakthrough thousands are rotting away in the devil's clutches.
Well, something had to be done because the God of the universe will not just watch the genuine seekers to continue to suffer, and the second seed of Abraham is just the right person, so Islam was birthed and it effectively takes care of those loopholes in christianity created by grace, no need to go through a proxy, your five daily prayers and other things get you access to God fast and when you are near the fire, all pests disappear.
You didnt answer the question I posted: It was about WHY YOU THINK GOD DID SEND JESUS....?!
In Judaism, God promised the coming of the Messiah.
The Jews rejected Jesus as the Messiah because they assumed the Messiah would be a Warrior king rather than a Spiritual king.
The Messiah was to save the world through Israel.

Why is Jesus the only Human being who is
-the Word of God
-the Spirit of God
-the only sinless human being
-the only human BORN by a virgin
-living in heaven with God as he was delivered from death (according to Islam)
-the only creator of life (according to islam)
-knows what is in people hearts (according to Islam)
-spoke as a baby (according to Islam)


WHY did God do this to a single human if apparently, this caused BILLIONS of people to become CHRISTIANS and so in Error?

vannessa7:
2. My QUESTION
2.
Do you think that Allah and Yahweh the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the same personality? Qur'an 2:133-134
YOUR RESPONSE
2 I know the God of Abraham, isaac and Jacob is the same as Allah but deals with you depending the covenant through which you are worshipping Him, I have revelations severally about this.
That is the Islamic claim that we worship the same God, BUT is this TRUE?

Ask your Husband OR Your Imam and say:
"Is Allah the same as Yahweh?": the answer would be a resounding NO!

If the answer is NO, are they truly the same God!?

I am sure you know that Revelations are often dangerous as Satan can often disguise himself as an Angel of Light.
Unfortunately too: the word revelation is ALIEN to Islam as ONLY a Prophet (and Mohammed is the Last prophet) that can receive any Revelation.

If you can confirm that ALLAH is not YAHWEH, your Soul may be in DANGER of Hell Fire!



vannessa7:
3. My QUESTION
3.
Is the paradise of Jesus the same as the paradise of Mohammed?
YOUR RESPONSE
3. I cannot answer number three because I've never been to heaven but I'm sure wherever muslims are will be ok and no genuine muslim will go to hell.
All you need is to read the differences in the description of Paradise as given by Islamic literatures and contrast with Christian literatures. I can give you references to each of these supposed allegation if you ask
i. Are you aware that there is a brothel in paradise consisting of images of men and women. A man goes there to have sex with anyone of his pick?
ii. That muslim men will have a minimum of 70 perpetual virgins in addition to their wives here on earth?
iii. Are you aware that in paradise Allah will appear in a shape different to what you Muslims expect and you will reject him as Allah?
iv. Are you aware that the muslim men will have enough booze (they cant get intoxicated) and an endless erection
v. Are you aware that there is no Islamic record of the relationship of Allah with Muslims in paradise?
vi. Are you aware that as a Muslim, you will ENTER hell Fire and then Allah will use Christians and Jews to replace/randsome you from the fire?
vii. Are you aware that there appears no record of benefit to Muslim women in paradise except to be one of the sex properties of the muslim men?

If you look critically, all these promises look like ENTICEMENT and TEMPTATIONS for people to become Muslims? Who is the chief temptere of Humans, and with what does he tempt people with?
I challenge you to find me Hadiths that speak of Muslim Men and Women Worshoping or Praising Allah in Paradise. Just one will be enough!!


vannessa7:
4. My QUESTION
4.
Why did Allah (apparently) create Christianity? He Deceived both the Jews, Roman, Mary, the Apostles, Siblings and Disciples of Jesus for more than 600 years before Islam?
YOUR RESPONSE
4. God did not deceive but gave mankind what we needed per time, the same way the Jews challenged Jesus is the same way christians challenge muslims now
It is understandable if God deceived the Romans and the Jews, BUT
i. Can you show any evidence that Mary the Mother of Jesus was aware that the person on the cross was not Jesus?
ii. Can you show any evidence that any of the Apostles of Jesus was aware that the person on the cross was not Jesus?
iii. If the person taken down from the cross was not Jesus, why do you think the Women went to annoint Jesus early on sunday morning?
iv. How come ALL the Apostles of Christ except John died a VIOLENT death preaching that Jesus died and rose up from the dead?
v. What do you think the early Christians gained by preaching that their LORD was crucified stark NAKED on the cross? Would the story not be sweeeter if Chrostians claimed that Jesus disappeared!?

Does this not show that Allah decieved Mary the mother of Jesus, the Apostles, the siblings of Jesus and the Disciples at large that jesus was crucified whereas, He wasnt?
Hence, Allah Created Christianity as it is today!



vannessa7:
5. My QUESTION
5.
5. Why does Islam hate the Jews this much: even in the last day, a tree will say to the Muslim, "a Jew is hiding behind me, kill him"?
YOUR RESPONSE
5, there are worst thing written in the bible, those are prophecies and the condition that will warrant that is in the hand of God and I'm sure it will not be universal, it may just be like the fight between israelites and the Benjamin tribe in the bible.
Have you forgotten that prophecies in the Old Testament all speak about the RESTORATION of Israel?
How would Israel be restored when the people are annihilated by Muslims?
Islam describes the Jews as Pigs and Monkeys: do you agree with this?
Don't forget that Jesus, Mary, the Apostles and most of the Prophets of Islam are Jews.

Are you saying contrary to the scriptures that at the end time, Israel would be EXTERMINATED?


vannessa7:
6. My QUESTION
6.
6. If Christians and Jews are in error, why did Allah promise them paradise. Even the Sabians (who worship the stars) had their place in paradise? Qur'an 2:62
YOUR RESPONSE
6. They are clearly in error because the Jews could not meet the demand of their covenant and chose to do evil in secret while pretending, they loved idol several times and killed many prophets while christians are in error right from apostle Paul, he introduced many things Jesus did not say and later on untold errors have been introduced into the bible during interpretation and as a political tool then, it was also modified as a tool for colonization, another friend of mine who school abroad was taught this by a lecturer, the lecturer said they made sure the bible will make colonization easy so they changed many things but as the quran said everyone will be judge according to their intentions.
[/.quote]
But the Quran says Jews, Christians and Sabians will enter Paradise?
As of the time of Mohammed, the Christians were saying that "the Messiah was Allah" (Quran 5:72) : Is this NOT polytheism in Islam
the Sabians worship the stars, why did Allah promise them paradise?
I don't know the offence of the Jews at the time of Mohammed as they were clearly not worshipping Idols.

Are you Truly saying that "polytheists" like Christians (who take Jesus as Allah) and the Sabians (who worship the stars) would enter paradise?


[quote author=vannessa7 post=119065022]7. My QUESTION
7.
7. If 10% of the reported negative character (according to the Hadiths) of Mohammed is true, can he still be a Messenger of God?
YOUR RESPONSE
7. God can use anyone, go and find out the history of Adeboye and you will say it's not possible but he said those things by himself. God uses the foolish things of this world to confound the wise, also many hadith's and write up cannot be trusted, islamic scholars say we should throw such hadith out when they are too ludicrous
God can use anyone, BUT God punishes sin severely when committed by His Servants
1. Did Allah punish Mohammed for coveting, lusting after and eventually marrying the wife of Zaid his adopted? What did Allah do about it, he canceled Adoption henceforth so that people can legally marry the wives of their adopted son. Is this not nausiating?
2. Mohammed had sex with the 17 year old Safiyyah bint Huyayy the same day he killed her husband, father and family! Is this righteousness?
3. Mohammed had sex with Mariyah the Copt, the slave of his wife and it became trouble enough for Allah to reveal a Quran about it. Can your husband safely invite your prophet to live with you in your house for a month?
4. Mohammed was under a spell of "Black Magic" for almost one year and he was imagining things he didn't do as if he did them! if your prophet can be under demonic affliction, how much more you his followers?
5. Mohammed permitted PROSTITUTION (Mutah) for Muslims and even wrote it in the Quran! Do you still think Allah is Yahweh?
6. Did Mohammed not say "Satan commands him but only for good"!? Do you know a single prophet of God that satan instructs in righteousness!?
7. How come Mohammed revealed the verses of a woman breastfeeding an adult male 10 times. Is this from Allah?
8. How come a prophet of Allah could not distinguish between the Quran and the satanic verses?
9. How come Mohammed sets a law of Allah for Muslims yet he ALONE is above the laws?
10. How come the Holy Spirit of God is relegated down to the statues of Jubril by Mohammed?

You know the Bible and therefore I ask:
Show me just one prophet in the Bible whose sole means of hearing God was an Angel?
Is Mary a Prophet of God?
Is Gideon a Prophet of God?
Are Samsons parent prophets of God?
Is Lot a prophet of God?

EVERY TRUE PROPHET OF GOD HEARS DIRECTLY FROM GOD!

I will prefer that you read and meditate on the truth spoken. If you feel I have erred in same of my statements, I will present sources from Islamic literatures.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 3:04pm On Dec 11, 2022
haekymbahd:
I will rather worship Allah than worship Jesus... The Jehovah of Unitarian christians is not the Jesus of trinitarians that is clear to everyone...

No where in the Quran did Allah claim he isn't Yahwe the only issue Allah had with Jews is their disobedience and Allah claims he isn't Jesus cos Jesus was his messenger...
It is a big problem without solution isn't it?
That Allah could forget his COVENANT Yahweh name and adopt a generic name Al-Lah!?
You Muslims even got the name of your God Lah wrong as you call him Al-lah!?


Let's assume we Christians are in Error about our Religion, How are the Jews in ERROR?
As of the time of Mohammed, were they worshipping any Deity apart from Yahweh?


Repeating a LIE 10 million time will never convert it into the truth


WHY DONT YOU ANSWER MY QUESTIONS?

I guess you should explain how some of your prophets have the name containing Yahweh and the WHOLE Quran is a STRANGER to Yahweh

English Hebrew Arabic....................................... Meaning
Elijah (English) Eliyahu (Hebrew) Ilyās(Arabic) Yahweh is my God (Meaning)

Zachariah (English) ZakarYah (Hebrew) Zakariyau(Arabic) Yahweh Remembers (Meaning)

Jesus (English) Yehoshua/Yeshua (Hebrew) Isah(Arabic) Salvation of Yahweh (Meaning)

John (English) Yahiya/Yohanan (Hebrew) Yahyah(Arabic) Yahweh is Gracious (Meaning)


Allah the God of Mohammed and you Muslims is ALIEN to Yahweh the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!

Just explain How Allah called his prophets with the names reflecting Yahweh and Yahweh is ABSENT in the 99 Names of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 2:57pm On Dec 11, 2022
1. Can you vouch that the Quran does not have ANY error?
2. But Islam doesn't even know yahweh the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob: repeating untruths a million times will not make it become true
I guess you should explain how some of your prophets have the name containing Yahweh and the WHOLE Quran is a STRANGER to Yahweh

English Hebrew Arabic....................................... Meaning
Elijah (English) Eliyahu (Hebrew) Ilyās(Arabic) Yahweh is my God (Meaning)

Zachariah (English) ZakarYah (Hebrew) Zakariyau(Arabic) Yahweh Remembers (Meaning)

Jesus (English) Yehoshua/Yeshua (Hebrew) Isah(Arabic) Salvation of Yahweh (Meaning)

John (English) Yahiya/Yohanan (Hebrew) Yahyah(Arabic) Yahweh is Gracious (Meaning)


Allah the God of Mohammed and you Muslims is ALIEN to Yahweh the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!

Just explain How Allah called his prophets with the names reflecting Yahweh and Yahweh is ABSENT in the 99 Names of Allah?


vannessa7:
Stop focusing so much on the Bible which even the publishers agree it's full of errors, I don't have time for long epistle this time around. About that girl you delivered, claiming to be a muslim is different from practicing it correctly, there are more non practicing muslims than non practicing christians even though they dress the part and islam has more deal breakers than christianity because you are dealing directly with Almighty God and the grace which allow christians to get away with many things is not part of islamic covenant, the easiest way to understand islam is to study the old testament about h God dealings with the israelites, how God did not tolerate their lapses and had strict rules for them to approach Him. Do you know that many act of terrorism is caused by the anger of God on unclean sinful populations, not all though.
You keep talking about Gods errors, christianity is not an error of God but of man, it was modified during translation for political reasons and even the errors of some of the writers who input their opinions and advices also those people that started the issue of Trinity which we all know about, you can Google how Trinity was founded in the church if you are not aware. Apostle Paul did not write all those letters without
Including his own opinion, no wonder the quran has no input from any human,

As it is now you are still deficient because you have no basis to prove your stand in christianity, you have never experienced islam and thus cannot lecture me that have experienced the two, I wasn't a bread and butter christian because I obeyed every injunction, I was an evangelist, I preached in the rain and in the sun, I prayed and fasted, I laid hands and God performed many miracles through my ministry and I knew when holy spirit revealed islam to me, and this was because the devil jusy wouldn't leave me alone, idols telling me I must how to worship them, familiar spirit and spirit husband that regularly harass me, I did so many deliverances I lost count but they all disappear as soon as I embraced islam, I fought against it and prayed about it before I was convinced, the bible say deep calleth unto deep, why don't you ask the holy spirit to give you a sign if there is God in Islam and then listen. I will reiterate that the only means to get rid of the devil permanently is islam and it is a direct way to God. All those people doing deliverance always need to keep doing it but it is not so in islam if you practice it correctly. This is my sixth year and all I can say is I regret ever being a christian because of the many years I suffered in the hand of the devil. It's not as I have it all now, not about material things but the peace and joy of being free to serve God without having to fight of the devil at all times.
As per Allah not being same as the God of Abraham that's a christian wishful thinking, all muslims know that we came from Abraham and Ismael, God remembered His covenant on Abraham through Ishmael also. even in a polygamy you know the father see all his children as his children not a bastard because the child is from a second wife so also the blood of Abraham in Ishmael entitled him to being blessed by God especially since he was despised.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNCmgXaKPT4

Check out that video
You are struggling desperately to convince yourself that Allah and Yahweh is the same Personality.
How come Yahweh does not appear even ONCE in the Quran?
Is Yahweh not the covenant name of God?

I wish you had answered my Questions: this post was to be a practice post for you.

Just ask your Husband or your Imam at the Mosque if Allah is Yahweh!
Or in your Mosque on Friday, pray that Yahweh will bless the worshipers.

It is NOT a difficult test is it?

Jesus said:
John 10:14
I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me,

Does Jesus know you even when you were claiming to be a Christian.


Vanessa,
I speak to you about your eternal life: Open your eyes and See!
Stop and LOOK!
Prov 16:25
There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death .


Prov 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to counsel.



Why did God institute Sacrifice of Sin for the Children of Israel?

John 3:13-19
13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. 14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.


Why would you choose darkness instead of LIGHT?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Allah Send Jesus As A Prophet To Mankind? by TenQ(op): 2:26pm On Dec 11, 2022
haekymbahd:
Funny christians asking whether Allah is Yahwe when it is clear Jesus isn't Yahwe instead of them to solve there own dilema they are only concerned about Muslims who are not even disturbed about this..

The trinitarians and Unitarian Christians both know they don't worship the same God..

It is Allah alone we worship and him alone we call upon...
I guess you should explain how some of your prophets have the name containing Yahweh and the WHOLE Quran is a STRANGER to Yahweh

English Hebrew Arabic....................................... Meaning
Elijah (English) Eliyahu (Hebrew) Ilyās(Arabic) Yahweh is my God (Meaning)

Zachariah (English) ZakarYah (Hebrew) Zakariyau(Arabic) Yahweh Remembers (Meaning)

Jesus (English) Yehoshua/Yeshua (Hebrew) Isah(Arabic) Salvation of Yahweh (Meaning)

John (English) Yahiya/Yohanan (Hebrew) Yahyah(Arabic) Yahweh is Gracious (Meaning)


Allah the God of Mohammed and you Muslims is ALIEN to Yahweh the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!

Just explain How Allah called his prophets with the names reflecting Yahweh and Yahweh is ABSENT in the 99 Names of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by TenQ: 12:52pm On Dec 11, 2022
tctrills:
My point is, malaria � has nothing to do with our discussion.
Just quote me properly, we'll both see the context!
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by TenQ: 12:51pm On Dec 11, 2022
tctrills:
You do not cast out demons from the Sons of God. When the spirit is with you, it's impossible for you to be possessed by demons.
When you start doing your duty, come back with testimonies.

The kingdom of God is not in theory, but in practice

1Cor 2:4:
"And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:"
Christianity Etc › Re: Sin And Sickness by TenQ: 12:47pm On Dec 11, 2022
GRACEGLORY:
Many who claim Jesus died for their sins are still afflicted!

Yes, because it's not enough to declare or proclaim what Jesus did... The in-depth understanding of what Jesus did is what enable us to live in the reality of what we proclaim. Those proclaiming the stories suffers just as every sufferers, but those proclaiming the revelation (understanding) behind the story live heaven on earth.

Therefore, there are two types of Christians, those who proclaim stories (the religious ones), and those who walk in the reality of the revelations behind the stories (Christlike).



1 John 1 1
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched--this we proclaim concerning the Word of life.


Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge...
Thread softly sis!

Jesus Heals still TODAY!
Some people are sick due to no fault of theirs.

John 11:4:
"When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not to death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby."


Lazarus was a close friend of Jesus, but he was sick. WHY?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by TenQ: 12:07pm On Dec 11, 2022
tctrills:
Funny you, if demons are the cause of malaria how come it is treated by tables? Do tables also cast away demons?
Did I say demons are the cause of Malaria?

Please check!

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