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Pennywise: The reason for the on-going strike by doctors in Lagos hospitals appear rather hazy. It is said that there are two sides to every coin. At the moment the only side in the media is the government side which is that resident doctors and house officers are demanding teaching allowances for their input in the training of medical students. This is yet to be refuted by the Guild of medical doctors behind the strike. Until a contrary position is made available by the other side it will form the basis of my opinion on the strike issue.

At once my view of the doctor's position is that it is obscene, it is immoral and even criminal and therefore the organizers deserve to be prosecuted and jailed for every loss of life or injury suffered by patients in these hospitals.

Teaching was not in your job description therefore you have no right to insist on payment for a job you neither signed for or known to have done. If you did it and you feel your input is not being appreciated then you are free to stop. You have no right or justification to withhold other services for which you get a just remuneration by going on strike.

Their going on strike is nothing short of a criminal behaviour. Resident doctors and house officers are not part of the academic commune involving lecturers and students, interaction in the wards not withstanding. If they want to teach medical students alongside their own training then this can be negotiated and specific assignments will be given to them. But what happens if a resident doctor fails or keeps failing in his exam? And these same resident doctors keep impacting toxic knowledge on the students. In order words only fellowship certification guarrantees a mastery of knowledge and skill that is worth paying for.

Secondly, if the government gives in to this blackmail then it will have no reason not to pay nurses, pharmacists, optometrists and lab scientists similar entitlements.

Today's politicians are businessmen who have no clue about governance. All they yearn is 'stability' so they can loot as much as possible. Fashola's govt will be creating a dangerous precedent in the country if it accedes to this demand.

The present executive of the guild of medical doctors have embarrassed all doctors. There is only one thing left for them to do- resign en mass and tender an unreserved apology to the good people of Lagos state and the govt.

There are no 'good people of Lagos State'. There are only SHEEP.

Doctors have gone on strike repeatedly over failure of the Lagos State government to live up to agreements and solutions agreed on in the past. Before the Lagos State govt was babbling last year about requiring the House to pass the budget before the demands were implemented. Now it's this ridiculous blackmail that's making the rounds.

I don't care to know if it's teaching allowance or not...The Lagos doctors are not demanding anything above what their federal counterparts are receiving. What is so wrong with that? What is so wrong with doctors asking for remuneration commensurate with the years they have put in in terms of education, the risks they face in their workplace (accidental infections, beatings and abuse from irate family members, HIV etc), the late working hours for those on call, the trauma of immersing themselves in blood and gore day in day out. They deserve to be well paid. Foolish people will babble about the doctors' oaths to preserve life...but Nigeria is not a normal country where dedication to that oath will be rewarded.
I have NEVER heard of any Lagos Landlord slashing house rents for medical doctors. I have NEVER heard of Silverbird, Genesis or other big shopping malls/event centres giving doctors a special discount. They pay the same bills as anyone else and thus they share the same need to make as much money as they can to support their families.

The people of Lagos should hold themselves responsible for this in some way. This is the THIRD major strike in 2 years and still they have not yet seen the need to demand for sanity in their leaders. Their leaders can afford all the bravado...they are covered by private hospitals. Lagosians should gather their balls and call their leaders to order. Pending that, let them continue to suffer. Na only suffering dey redeem Nigerians sef.


This is the same way the Government of Nigeria carried out their insidious and brainless campaign of calumny against ASUU, drowning all legitimate demands by ASUU under accusations of selfishness on the part of the lecturers. Now our Universities today are Pathetic!

Brixtonyute: I just laugh when some ignorant gorillas think there's no external influence in the wave of terrorist attacks in Nigeria. The sophistication, and targets show this is not solely about religion. If it was solely about religion - Benue, Plateau, and most SE states would be the target..

A lot of Americo-phile Nigerians are naive!

Of course there's an external influence you numbskull. Al Qaeda has made some preliminary contacts with leading elements of Boko Haram.

Plateau has been a target in the past...but does it take much brainpower to understand why Boko Haram's efforts are for now concentrated in the northern areas where they hold sway?
If unchecked, you will have your wish of Boko Haram carrying out operations in the south. For now they still are a relatively unsophisticated group...wait until they buy light mortars and anti-tank weapons.

If I ask you people now to list any possible motive the US would have for destabilizing Nigeria and spreading islamic fundamentalism in the largest black muslim population in the world, what will you say?

ifihearam: 2 Boko Haram Spies Ran Mad At Winners Chapel Otta

Two weeks ago,2 suspected Boko Haram spies who was sent to get the schematics of the Living Faith Church aka Winners Chapel's building apparently ran mad as soon as they stepped their foot in church premises. They confessed to have been sent to get a full plan of the church for a possible bomb attack but they received madness instead.

As at then the presiding Bishop was in America when this happened, it was announced in church during one of the services. Those in the know will confirm this.

Boko Haram don't need any schematics. They just drive straight through and blow stuff up.

Tell another story!

london2lasgidi: You're dumber than your name sounds.

What would CIA gain?? Can you see how dumb that question is??

What did CIA gain from Libya? But didn't they mess up the country regardless?

What would they gain from Syria? We all know they're behind the uprising over there.

I believe in the CIA doctrine, which says: "the unstable and smaller the country, the easier to exploit", go figure.

I wonder when you will start blaming the CIA for your girlfriend cheating on you.
While the US government would have shed no tear over Gadaffi's removal (him being a terrorist loving scumbag and no friend of the white house), who are the 'we' that 'know' that the CIA is behind the Syrian riots?
Shebi the same 'we' all know that Syria's Assad is the most loving, benevolent ruler in the world? And that the CIA has snipers shooting Syrian citizens abi? And that the CIA has paid out ALL the Arab league observers that condemn the killing abi?

The US has everything to lose and nothing to gain from a disunited Nigeria in the throes of a civil war. Intervention is not guaranteed and any damage to our oil infrastructure (and there most definitely will be!) will be costly and time consuming to fix. Couple that with a hike in oil prices and the risk of the radicalization of over 60 million muslims in Nigeria and you'd be utterly insane to even think this is possible.

Hell, what am I saying? You ARE insane!

Is there no limit to human stoopidity?

So the CIA wants to drastically destabilize one of the most stable countries supplying them oil? The CIA is also striving to destabilize the Government of a man from the Niger Delta zone, who is a very staunch supporter of the US so far? A man from the Niger Delta during whose presidency the oil has continued to flow, almost unchecked?

So according to you the CIA may be planning to plunge Nigeria into civil war which will not only seriously raise the price of oil (costing the US economy billions and billions of dollars) but then leave the US really dependent on the increasingly more volatile middle east for their oil lifeblood?


You people are Grade A m0r0ns. I am so upset when I think of all the very very intelligent people I know that are dead - eg my ex-classmates Micky Olu and Jude Mgba who died of stroke and malaria respectively - and yet im'beciles like you guys above are here still alive and kicking.

Truly, this life is really unfair!

lastpage:
The above is from my Post!
Is it that you just want to run foul-mouthed or you need Recommended-Glasses?
Truly, some Nigerians are cursed with not just foolishness but "blindness and dysentery of the mouth" as well!

Lastpage!

LMAO!!!

Which Nigerian University? Which research projects? Are you sure you've ever seen the four walls of a Nigerian tertiary institution before?

This brainless attempt to sugarcoat the dearth of true research centres in our Universities is astounding. Or...are you GEJ in disguise?

Oya, give several examples of the 'many research products' lying around, just 'waiting for commercialization'.

Go and read online what even high school kids in saner climes are doing...instead of babbling about 'commercialization' of poorly trained students final year projects.

afam4eva: O boy... what part of "All the Igbo sisters i know that married Yoruba men are divorced. Does this say anything?" don't you understand? Who's the slowpoke now?

You're trolling as usual, and being a m0r0nic ethnic bigot as usual. End of story.

slimyem: not sexist!
I'm only identifying with the op in this case!
We all have reasons for the things we say and the judgements we make of people...
I wish i dont have to put all men in the same category but everyday that passes is a cementation of the 'all men are the same' phrase. And its not a one-sided thig,men too are quick to identify with the 'all women are the same' phrase
Sorry,but that's my opinion until proven otherwise!
Sad!

No sweat! Just don't get offended when any man with bitter experiences with women calls you an Ashawo or slut...

Anyway at least when you eventually get married you won't go into it with high expectations...because he's likely to be an arsehole too, huh?

afam4eva: All the Igbo sisters i know that married Yoruba men are divorced. Does this say anything?

Says two things

1) You don't know many people
2) You're a m0r0n.

Arosa: I know its not a waste cos I have been there, and I have bought improved palm seeds from them, And I can tell you that I'am a satisfied customer.

An Oil palm research centre is not nearly on the same level as a 'naval research centre'.

Improvements on palm seeds quality is something that is usually done in universities in saner climes. Not a multi-billion naira 'research centre'. Let the Government fund our Universities instead so you kill two birds with one stone: research and development and competence building in our graduates.


Anyway, since you lot voted for a man that told the entire nation that the only problem facing our Universities is 'poor education', why am i not surprised?

eseosa77: u dey crayz,who need ur vote self?.if like no vote,if one piece of yam comot for pot,e no say make d rest not done.carry ur vote go,OSHIO BABA go still win.

brainwashed ape! Of course Oshiomhole will still win. The important thing is that a Nigerian recognizes that his vote is his right and his power to contribute to change. On principle, he will not vote for Oshiomhole after this despicable behaviour...and that stand is commendable.

If more Nigerians could take a stand against executive foolishness, Nigeria would not be in such sorry state. It is m0r0ns like yourself that TRY hard to convince people that their votes are meaningless that have led us down this current road of destruction we find ourselves.

alj harem: So who should be blamed ? State government (Osho)

Those roads you mentioned are FEDERAL ROADS, The FG has not given the SG the power to build on State roads so how is it Osho's fault ?

Abeg wake up

Please stay on topic. Oshiomhole deserves some blame and condemnation for politicizing the death of journalists to his favour.
Spare a thought for the motor boy who is probably being beaten and tortured now just because of this reckless accusation.

We are talking about break failure and you're talking about federal and state roads...how does that apply?

I'm just sorry for this poor motor boy that Oshiomhole has callously handed over to the SSS and Police to 'investigate'. By now Oshiomhole is comfortably eating breakfast at home while the innocent motor boy (Who was NOT driving!) is languishing in a police cell, most likely half-starved and badly beaten.

PrettyCindy: Whether it was an assasination attempt or not, his simplicity played a huge role here. The tipper targetted the vehicle with flag which is the official vehicle but the Governor wasn't inside rather he was driving the first car, a BMW himself. That is one thing about the Governor, power doesn't freak him, he still lives his life like the average man on the street. So the tipper driver if truely he was paid to kill the Governor never knew that the Governor wasn't in the official gov. car. Mind you am not from Edo state neither do i belong to any political party. Someone said a few days ago before the accident that PDP must regain power in Edo states no matter what it takes..........well add one and one together and whatever you arrive at, na you sabi ooo!

First you say "Whether it was an assassination attempt or not"

Then you say " The tipper targeted the vehicle with the flag"


Can you make up your mind?



Why would a hired killer choose such a low tech, high risk option to kill a Governor...ramming into a convoy with heavily armed policemen?

kunlekunle: when will he construct a shipyard in lagos?
lets start our own and stop importing.

This is not an intelligent contribution.

As Eko Ile says, you want Lagos State govt to keep water transportation on ice while they build a multi billion naira shipyard? And then wait for a few years while the Shipyard gradually churns out 1st generation ferries which will definitely not be up to the standard of the australian built ferries?

Na wa o!

lightheart: ok. head examiner, so which centre have you posted me to? did u just decide to jump over d questions i asked? i can c how many tins jump over ur head, OgaHeadExaminer! ANSWER MY QUESTIONS SHARPALLY!!!!

Why should I answer your brainless questions when you seemingly did not read the article with any appreciable degree of understanding?

The Senator was present on an oversight visit...do i need to define that word for you?

lightheart: Shey na the place of my very own Presido of my own very Nigeria she dey yab lyk dat Well, Goodluck to her

WHO AND WHO AND WHO SIGN MAKE DEM BUILD INSTITUTE FOR BAYELSA?

CAN SHE BACK UP HER CLAIMS DAT SUCH PROJECT IS A WASTE? I BELIEVE SHE MUST HAVE A RESEARCH

AFTER 240 MILLION EYE COME CLEAR

Walai, dem need put her for guardroom!!!

They need to 'put a civillian in guardroom' because she does not agree with this brainless waste of funds? You need your head examined!

lastpage: Thank you very much!
I was expecting this sort of analysis from peeps here instead of the usual "tribal rants" we are getting.
It seems we under-rate the "efficacy of RESEARCH" in our daily progress and life in general.
A Naval research institute IS NOT A WASTE OF FUNDS.

For example, most military hardware and new technologies used in warfare/defense and even deterrence, are products of "research institutes".

Even if the Naval Research Institute succeeded in coming up with say for example, a prototype to build "small boats with advanced Navigational facilities on board", it has justified its existence because such boats can be used as Ferries for our inland waterways transportation (as of today, you have to import one), such boats can be used by sea-going fishermen, such boats can be used for "shallow sea" search and rescue, e.t.c.

And l am sure that with the level of intelligence of Nigerians and some strategic foreign collaboration, such research institute can serve as a basis for much development not to mention the amount of jobs it could create (in terms of ancillary services as well)!

I dont care where it is sited, (at least we dont expect it to be like the Nigerian Ports Authority that was moved from Lagos, to a "dry zone" like Abuja!), as long as the "objective of setting it up" is maintained.

By the way, like someone said, the Senator needs to tell the nation why she thinks "its a waste of fund", not just make some silly assertion and then conclude that it should be scrapped.

At this stage, this nation needs a lot more research institutes and the "inventions" of such institutes needs to be funded and commercialized ASAP.
Go to our universities and other tertiary institutions (research Institutes as well) and see how so many 'research products' lie on the shelf, waiting for commercialization!
No wonder we still import Bicycle from India, even the one for our kids, that an ordinary Iron welder can "put together" for peanuts!

How are we going to ever develop with this kind of attitude?

This is not about Jonathan, PDP or Bayelsa state, it is about creating the required infrastructure for future development.
Nuff said.

Lastpage!

Maybe the money should be "diverted into more allowances" for the Sin-a-tor's pocket ?

How are we ever going to develop with YOUR attitude? Our universities lack research centres and research grants and yet you're babbling about this PR project. In saner climes, a large chunk of industry changing research and innovation is done in the Universities!

Sometimes I think Nigerians are cursed with foolishness. This is how Nigerians were joining their 'facebook president' in celebrating the launch of the first 'Nigerian' satellite while no single school in Nigeria offered any courses in advanced aeronautics, rocketry and space technologies.

icme: Thanks for being clear enough,you are one for controversies,even on your own threads [whch also don't have pictures or even a phone number to reach you on,except an email,and you subsequently don't reply your number,because you might be holding things in your mind,I actually want a psp vita bro]
And secondly this last post by you is more professional and direct,as opposed to adding scam to it,when it,when you could have simply said "post pics,it would serve you better" people do/give the same advice in the auto section as well.

You're right, and I apologize for my choice of words.

Wish you happy sales.

I don't have a Vita for sale anymore but i'll let you know via email...saw a nice deal that's cheaper than the average.

[quote author=Find Out!]the timing of this story is suspect. VERY suspicious. The massacre on christians at BUK too is very suspicious as well. Its like these two events were planned to deflect attention from:

i)The statement made by the NSA labelling bh as political.

ii) The highly likely & quite obvious fact (even b4 the NSA's speech) that boko haram is political & isnt sponsored by any taliban/bin Laden/islamic bank (however silly that sounds) , but by Nigerian politicians....with Nigerian money. (the north & its sorrounding border countries e.g. Niger republic have provided d ''raw materials'' i.e. poor stupid illiterate almajiris who can easily be brainwashed into bombing themselves).

iii) The subsidy probe panel report & the actions to be taken(or avoided) thereafter.


Can any of our very well versed muslim brothers/sisters correct/analyze the many 'bloody' verses (mostly quoted out of context) an earlier poster brought out of the Qur'an, the same book that accords a lot of respect to Jesus Christ (A.S.).

And to that poster, since u are soo well versed in Quranic verses ( & i assume, islam), you can like to ask yourself why its just in d latter part of last century/early ds century that muslims started ''smiting'' and ''fighting'' xtians/unbelievers. i would appreciate if u culd xtend your research to the battles fought by the Prophet Mohammed (SAW) himself in his lifetime & tell us if any of those battles wasnt borne out of self defence or if women, children & even harmless men not on d battle field were attacked in those battles. Heck, tell us if any of those wars were against xtians!

Keep spreading your propaganda if u wish, but Islam will continue to grow, & inshaAllah, the bad eggs among us who continue to carry out evil and abominable acts in d name of islam will be made to pay for their crimes. Tho, Allah is ever willing to forgive those who truly repent.[/quote]You m0r0nic half-wit! There is no 'suspect' timing here. There is renewed attention on Bin Laden's death and doing now because IT IS NOW ONE YEAR SINCE HE DIED!

Not surprised you are too brainless to see this.

Finally, if you think the massacre at BUK was 'carefully timed', what about the massacres in the madalla church bombing? What about the attacks on Christmas and Easter?

If you truly believe that Christians are to be protected as 'people of the Book', why are you and your ilk not out on the streets protesting against Boko Haram and their 'corruption of Islam'?

You folks are perfectly willing to take to the streets when some obscure artist in Denmark sketches something yet here your Islam faces a serious perception crisis and you sit here on NL, spewing silly conspiracy theories!

icme: Texxazpette I've sold several items from ps3 consoles,to others,&you are also a fellow seller,you could have simple written it professionally "why don't you post pictures" and do it with a clear mind"..without having to add Scam there.
When it not like I said pay without seeing.
See,inspect and pay.
I had way too much respect for you to expect that.,no one would write that on your own threads,&i wouldn't,well.

Let me break it down for you since you clearly do not get it.

Your pictures show this is a 2006 iMac...which has a G5 processor. Yet you copied and pasted the product description of the 2011 iMac, insinuating that your product has a Quad Core Core i7 processor and a powerful AMD Radeon GPU as well as the newly introduced thunderbolt I/O port.

Anyone can clearly see this is a serious mismatch.
Since you're selling this for 100k (negotiable) it's clear this is not a recent iMac model. So The right thing to do is to post the correct product description.

Have I been clear enough?

icme: Maybe if your adverts didn't sound like Scam people would buy,none of your ads have the actual pictures of what you advertise,just names,a price,and an email address lol [how ironic].

Nice try but

1) This item has long since been sold, based on this advert
2) There IS only one generation of PS Vita...no buyer confusion here and no deliberate misinformation posted.

Is this your idea of 'getting back at me'? So Childish and laughably ineffective. Accept my feedback on that your post and strive for honesty in the future!

Have you been living under a rock?

This is 25k more expensive than computer village prices...does this one produce gold and diamonds?

Perhaps if your post didn't sound so much like a scam, people would respond.

Please do the right - and sensible - thing and post the real images and the real product description of the iMac you're selling.

naijanow: While watching Emmanuel TV this morning, I heard TB Joshua suddenly stop his speech and ask the congregation to rise and pray for protection for the youth. He said Attack! and that it would be in this country. Not much later, news broke that bombs had exploded at a church on BUK campus, Bayero University in Kano! Is this proof that there is a prophet among us? Is this proof that God is still speaking to us, revealing Himself to us? Let's continue to pray for our protection, as the prophet advised. God bless Naija!

1) You claim Joshua's cry of 'pray for protection of the youth' concerned the BUK bombing. Who told you that only youths were killed there? What of the old Professors that lost their lives?

2) Seeing as how there have been attacks every week for months now, what makes you so sure that he was referring to this event?

3) Surely you aren't that m0r0nic not to see that your initial post is perfect ammunition for atheists arguments. You say God revealed this impending disaster and your pastor called for prayers yet innocent believers were killed at a service where they had gathered to praise and serve the same God. How will you defend yourself against the 'God must be wicked' arguments?

4) Seeing as how prayers for 'protection' have not been effective so far, why exhort people here to continue prayers?

[quote author=kay-1one]Interesting... Buhari has supporters! This isn't necessarily about him but about the country. If there's anyway to stop the menace of suicide bombings, it should be explored![/quote]Anything? Including sacrificing you to Ogun for posting m0r0nic topics on Nairaland?

So if it were up to you, you'd arrest Buhari just because he once made some complaints against the ThisDay owner?

With logic like this, no wonder Nigeria is so underdeveloped.

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Seek professional help ASAP!

735 i: Simply put; The Nokia N900 is not a phone; It is a computer with phone capabilities...i guess that answers your question. Plus i generally do not go by the opinions of a few individuals whom you refer to as geeks to reach my own conclusions...

The N900 is an outdated, brick phone with a now slow processor, ageing GPU and a resistive screen. Its fans babble about it being a 'computer'. Savvy smartphone users know that its time is long since up...its users are masochistic fellows who thrive on the idea of wrestling with their phones while they lose out out the modern app revolution.

Frankly speaking, there's no sensible reason now to recommend the N900 over any decent Android phone.

735 i: So you have an ipad and an iphone? BIG DEAL!!!
My Android device runs on Ice Cream Sandwich...try to get your fingers on one and see what it can do...Still.. i love me my N900..it redefines multitasking!!

If truly you know programming... you wouldn't write off LINUX..outdated or not...!!!

I've run ice cream sandwich before. Did I say it wasn't good?
What's the point of multitasking when you're running inferior apps and games on an outdated device? The Nokia Ngage from 2004 does multitasking pretty well too

I also cannot recall when I 'wrote off Linux'. Linux and meego aren't outdated. The N900 hardware is.

tobeski: @smooth278(I'm guessing you're texazzpete) you're seriously talking off point, you're evading questions i posed to you and contradicting yourself(if ure texaspete) .I talked about how apps can talk to each other and the os in android, i specifically said in advance that i knew sns integration had become more prevalent but it was only one of the examples, yet you still mention twitter integration. what do you think i meant by sns integration can't u read. I gave examples of third party apps. twitter comes wit d iphone as a result of d apple/iphone partnership. its not a third party app that you install separately.
when did malware even come into the picture. don't let me get started with that

You mentioned 'flexibility' of Android and the fact that apps on Android have more 'freedom' than Apple's walled garden approach. I showed you the potential pitfalls of this situation (massive influx of malware) and the resulting compromise in platform security (Android's rating as the least secure of the major smartphone platforms). How is this not relevant to the discussion? Is your attention span that short that you need regular reminders on the topic of interest?
I LOVE how you gloss over the salient points I raised and focus nearly an entire paragraph on the fact that I missed a small portion of your initial post. Stay classy o!

tobeski: I said videocalling isn't supported on the iphone and your answer is that it is not that popular in nigeria, huh??. u really couldnt come up with a better excuse??

you mention htc one x and galaxy nexus not having mem. card expansion yet those are just two phones out of the 100s of androids out there. android gives you choice. why can't apple do the same.

'Excuse'? What's the 'excuse' for a feature that is not natively supported on the 4 most prominent mobile platforms? What's your excuse for Android then? Aside from Samsung's patched-in implementation on their Touchwiz skinned phones, practically no other Android phone carries this feature and certainly not on any 'Google Experience' devices.
So...Google bills the stock Android devices as the essential Android experience...and does not support 3g video telephony...Have you forgotten this is an iPhone vs Android comparison discussion? Weird!

To be honest I find this particular point to be just as silly as the 'java apps' point. Practically all users will turn to the likes of Skype anyway for video calling.

What i find laughable is that while you suggest that Facetime is limited because it's only iPhone to iPhone, you are babbling about 3g video telephony which most Android devices, Blackberries, iPhones and Windows Phone handsets are excluded from using...which leaves an extremely limited pool of Nokia symbian phones and ageing windows mobile phones in Nigeria.

Keep flogging this point...just adds to my conviction that you're running out of ideas

As for the memory card point, my point is simple; If the two most definitive, premium Android handsets can make do without expandable memory, so can the iPhone. isn't that obvious? Do I need to point you to the Google Galaxy Nexus liveblog to see how the ICS toting flagship was billed as THE definitive Android experience?

You have choices between 16GB, 32GB and 64GB. That's even more choices than HTC gives you with their One X (only available in 32GB)

You can drag this point on and on in a brainless manner by babbling about 'choices' with varying storage options. Please don't waste both our time.

tobeski: are you not the same person that said

and

see how you contradict yourself so easily?? i'll just assume you're not in the right frame of mind right now or you were rushing when you typed this. i can't think of any other explanation.

You claimed I said Bluetooth was outdated. I ask you again, where did I say that?!

For the avoidance of all doubt, and for other people as ignorant as yourself, I will say this.

BLUETOOTH IS NOT THE SAME AS BLUETOOTH FILE TRANSFER!!!!!

I indicated that Bluetooth file transfer protocol is not nearly as prevalent or relevant today as it once was. You need to stop showcasing your ignorance here when you insinuate that anyone thinks Bluetooth is outdated. Many millions of iPhone users use their Bluetooth every day for listening to music with headphones and handsfree through car stereo. You'll be happy to know the iPhone 4S supports Bluetooth 4.0 which isn't yet prevalent in Android devices

tobeski: i asked you about multitasking. you're talking about gpu acceleration. Off point once again. u have no point there because there was no need for gpu acceleration. you're the only one that knows which android used to lag

You made a snarky comment about multitasking taking too long to arrive in the iPhone in 2010. I replied in the same vein, asking why it took until Q4 2011 for GPU hardware acceleration to arrive. Why are you complaining?
FYI, even the most die-hard Android fanboy out there will agree that prior to Gingerbread and dual core processors, Android was not nearly as smooth as iOS. Go and read any review off Engadget or any major tech site for Eclair, Donut and FroYo devices...Are you sure you've used Android extensively?

My Galaxy Tab 8.9 with a Dual core Tegra 2 processor and Honeycomb 3.0 lags between homescreens. Why do you think many Xda rom cooks talk about overclocking to reduce lag?

tobeski: I was hilighting apple's general poor hardware

Reviewers at Anandtech noted that the increased heat output in the new iPad is as a result of the powerful GPU (much more powerful than in any Android device out there) and noted that the heat did not become uncomfortable. Ditto for Consumer reports which rates the new iPad as the best tablet out there. How does that seem like 'general poor hardware to you'?

This is just silly speak and is tantamount to someone taking the Asus Transformer Prime's GPS issues, the Samsung Galaxy S Captivate's poor GPS and plasticky builds on many Samsung devices and making a general statement that the build quality in Android devices is 'generally poor'.

Again, stay classy.


Finally, it seems I forgot to log out of my brother's profile on this PC...yes the post above made by 'Smooth278' is mine.

tobeski: Looks like my previous post just became invisible to texazzpete. just what you'd expect from an apple fanboy

I have been in the company clinic for 2 hours over a migraine...I have a life outside here, you know. I think typing the previous response gave me that headache

Sorry for not responding to your posts...i'll tackle it when I get myself sorted out

Here's a quick test for you folks.

jedisco, let's say you take a photo of your friend Blink182. Blink182 requests you to send him the photo. What do you do?

a) Select Send via bluetooth,
Wait 5-10 seconds for the bluetooth radio to initialize (because no normal person would have their bluetooth on throughout, draining battery)
wait 30 - 40 seconds for the Bluetooth scanning to complete and detect Blink182's phone.
Select Send and stand in place (within 10 metres of blink182)


or

b) Select send Via email
Wait 2 seconds for the email compose window to come up
Type in email and click send



Now tell me, which is faster? I am even being rather generous in terms of bluetooth radio startup time...plus in many smartphones the Send via Bluetooth option is buried under menu layers.
On the plus side, sending via email means Blink182 now can easily access the image on ALL his phones, ALL his computers anywhere in the world.

Naturally, this assumes a Wifi connection or a data plan. But if you have a smartphone and no data plan, you should NOT be discussing here!

jedisco: I was just reading along and smiling until I saw this. Infact it really drove me insane. Did someone just type this?

1. This is 2012 and its absolutely naive for someone to be making a case supporting the absence of the Bluetooth feature on mobile devices.
Dude did you just mention email? Its like saying one should buy a laptop without wifi cos it has a port for a usb modem.
So if someone sees a picture or song on my phone and wants it, I would have to send it through a mail? In 2012? Man you've got no point here.
I even thought you were referring to NFC support only for you to mention email.

Correction. The iPhone HAS bluetooth, just not bluetooth file transfer.
Secondly, I had to go over my posts carefully just to make sure I wasn't seeing things...where exactly did i 'support' the absence of Bluetooth on the iPhone? All i simply said was that this is 2012...not 2004 when I spent lots of time transferring wallpapers and ringtones to my Nokia Ngage. Bluetooth file transfer is no longer the only means of file transfer and the frequency of use is vastly reduced.
Will I buy a phone because once in a year I may want to receive a photo from someone? Never! And with an iPhone and a Blackberry with data plans, i'd much rather receive a photo via email where I KNOW it will always be there than standing in place for a minute because someone wants to use Bluetooth to send it to me.

In the 2 years i've owned and used a Blackberry device, I have used my Bluetooth only ONCE to transfer a file. For me, it is a non-essential. Since the iPhone is the highest selling smartphone in the world, it's clear tens of millions of people feel the same.

You Wifi Analogy doesn't hold water, sorry. Wifi is a critical feature, bluetooth is NOT.

I think you folk need to move along with technology.

jedisco: 2. Java althoug quite old still comes in handy for me as I've got a few java apps which I use quite often and its a feature I will still like available for the time being.

All those Java apps have since been supplanted by native iOS and Android apps that deliver more functionality in a more stable, attractive package. I challenge you to mention some of these apps and demonstrate that there is no better app in the 425,000 app strong Android market.

jedisco: 3. Did you just mention .zip being a niche item?
You've got alot of explaining to do there.
C'mon, my file manager and zip manager come in just as handy. Over 50% of files I download online are in zip format. So you mean I would be unable to use this files on a smartphone or I would have to look for their native formats which are most times unavailable.

Do I really NEED to define the word 'niche' for you?

The vast majority of people out there do not need the ability to open .zip files.
However, for those who need it, the jailbreak app 'iFile' is a file manager with ZIP and RAR support.

jedisco: 4. You've never wanted to save a webpage?
Man if you want to lie to us, tell ur a lie you would believe.
I will pay to have some of my saved web pages

Why would I want to save a webpage? If i need to revisit content i'd rather save a bookmark or favorite that page and view the most up-to-date info when next i want to revisit that content.

For those who really want to actually SAVE pages, the free Pocket app (formerly 'Read it later') on the Appstore allows you save content for viewing later, even when offline. it's FREE!

The Cydia app 'Weboffline' lets you save pages just like on a computer too.

So while saving pages is not a must-have feature for me, iOS users are not left out.

jedisco: In summary, if you're going to make a point for ios, then you should understand that all mobile platforms be it symbian, windows, android e.t.c have their flaws. You don't get any point by trying to deny them. You should rather focus on the high points of your device.

Mind you I'm not in support of android, I just don't like people insulting my intelligence.

Did you not read the part where I talked about every smartphone OS having 'pros and cons'? I have taken time to dispel some of the obvious items of misinformation in this thread. Things like 'lack of java support' are a real hilarious joke and for someone to say the highest selling smartphone in the world is a 'toy' because it does not support a scarcely used feature like bluetooth file transfer is just laughable.

Why is there a category for 'best Nigerian movie'? Isn't this supposed to be an African movie award show?

Beaf: [size=14pt]How can Deziani be indicted for orders given by Yar Adua in 2009 to Rilwan Lukman, the then petroleum minister?[/size]
Arn't those making that argument stup!d people?
They really say Nigerians hate reading.

The order was to the office of the Petroleum Minister...and unless vacated it remains a standing presidential directive.

Knowing how much you love this woman, I expected you to get all Voltron on us in this thread. But really, is that the best defence you could come up with?