₦airaland Forum

Abeg does anyone have the link to that NL article showing this guy's bleached skin? I need to send that out to as many people as possible

Instead of the man to educate taxi drivers, he's busy trying to turn graduates into menial workers as taxi drivers. What rubbish!

youngdee:
Nairalanders, dont you think it is high time we put an end to all these rubbish of our name being dragged in the mud, They just keep saying shitz about our darling nation even when they are not sure if all these fraud things are linked to Nigeria. I have countless numbers of mails from fraudsters in countries like Russia, Philippine and many more. There are worst crimes in the US compare to Nigeria, we should start putting theirs on the internet too so they will know what it feels like for a country's name to be associated with crime.


LETS JOING HANDS TOGETHER AND DO THIS.

What crimes?
Oya, post some of these 'fraudulent' mails you get from Russians etc let's see.

blackspade:
Tsk tsk tsk, more sinophobia from the West. They see the East is rising so they throw all kinds of shade. . .so predictable.

If you see nothing to be troubled about in the Chinese expansion into Africa, there's nothing that i can say to help you. Already we see overt Chinese support for nations like Sudan and the atrocities in Darfur. We see Chinese support for the illegal Government in Guinea. We see China buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of arable farmland in Africa for their own uses. We see the Chinese bid for a huge portion of Nigeria's oil reserves.

The Chinese investment in Africa is welcome, it doesn't mean we should go to sleep with our eyes closed.

viperman:
I stay in lagos most times.
And i only play for betting, money betting- PRo Evolution.
If you guys are as good as you claim, let fix a weekend when we can meet and win some money. [img]http://www.messhits.com/emoticons/badguy-emoticon5-(messhits.com).gif[/img]

Lol.
Can i stake my 2005 Camry against oneof those delectable cars you sell in the Autos section?

malone5923:
What games do you have on it? My collection are tenchu:shadow assasins, mario kart, nfs:pro street and godfather.

1. Softmod your wii
2. Download game isos from wiiso.com
3. ??
4. Profit!!


DISCLAIMER: Download 'backup' copies of games you already own to stay legal

Sometimes i clearly understand how we got into this mess. Why are there so many people in denial?
The first rule in a financial crime investigation is 'follow the money'! And when more often than not the monies are sent to recipients in Nigeria, why would anyone be talking about turkish and russian 'hackers'?

As someone once said, if we were any bit interested in fighting this evil, why do songs like 'Maga Don Pay' and 'I Go Chop Your Dollar' rise to the top of the charts when they come out? Have you seen the comments on Youtube for 'I Go Chop Your Dollar' made by Nigerians? Why then do you want to be treated with respect?

Scammers exist in Russia, Ukraine, in the US and loads many more countries. but you know what the bleeping difference is?

1. Scammers there are treated like pariahs, shunned and despised by the honest. They are extremely reluctant to expose their 419 occupation to all - unlike Nigerians.

2. Nigerian scammers have easily obtained a reputation as insatiable and cruel scammers who will happily drain your entire savings and leave you in perennial debt. Western scams like credit card theft and identity theft hardly ever leave you that broken. Add to that the shame and embarrassment associated with being left for broke by people who gained your trust - and then scammed you of all your possessions.


Instead of claiming conspiracy theories, we need to spend time fixing this issue in this country.

papa giddy:
God bless prophet TB Joshua. may the grace of God on him never reduce in Jesus name. i wonder when Nigerian will appreciate and utilize what we have. but instead we criticize, we call pple names,even wishes that our countryman dies. Do u know there were pple who are happy that flying eagles failed in Egypt?? most Nigerian don't want good thing come out of Nigeria. honestly!!

Utilize?
These 'Men of God' love blind sheep like you. You have a Bible, you can read and you know how to pray. Why then would your blessings and progress in life depend on TB Joshua?

He has been in Nigeria and steadily things have got a whole lot worse. Fuel price has tripled, the Naira has fallen in value, there's unrest in the Niger Delta, there's killings of innocents in Eket - so what has his presence done for us since?

This is a latest boost to get new members in his church. You're welcome to worship there and show the man slavish devotion if you will. But don't come here excoriating the rest of us for not sharing your beliefs!

I say try his arse and fry him if he's guilty.
If he's crazy, then commit him. Hope they don't deport crazies back to Nigeria.

shesi:
"dear boyzone?"

hahahaha, you almost had me going for a while. Until i got to that part. lol. your wife calls you boyzone? hahahaha

this is a complete fabrication. nice storytelling skills though.

If his story is true, did you expect him to use his real name here?

While Children are being killed in droves in Eket over allegations of witchcraft perpetuated by card carrying members of the PFN, people are here praising these so-called 'MEn of God' that turn a blind eye to this nonsense.

Whenever we criticise these deceivers, people are always quick to point to the Biblical passage that enjoins us not to 'touch the Lord's anointed'. Luckily, the same Bible tells us that we know people by their fruits - and the casual and cruel neglect of the suffering kids will hopefully not go unpunished.

madam L:
YOU ARE TRULY NOT A GIRL.First pregnancies could be concealed forever. Some of the time, they start showing shortly before delivery.

I have seen tons of pregnant ladies at 5 - 7 months, and there's no way in hell you can conceal a 5 month pregnancy from an intimate eye. Use your head for God's sake, she's supposed to be his wife and will definitely spend enough time naked with him. How do you conceal that?

Pregnancy showing just before delivery? You do know how big a baby is, don't you? Just asking.

Cock and bull story, really amusing seeing all you folks helpfully offering advice. Nigerians LOVE to offer advice

Let me get this clear.
You love your wife and you had been away from her for a long period of time, and naturally one would expect you would bed down with her as soon as you guys re-united. So how the hell can you say you did not realise that she was 5 months pregnant?

i'm not a girl and all that, but at 5 months + pregnancy is usually pretty visible. Taking a pregnancy test at 7 months?

I'm not buying this cock and bull story.

babapupa:
You guys make the craziest and absurd statements I swear.

Why not just ask the federal government to get rid of your governors since you guys have no use for them because you guys act and carry on as if they don't exist or they do, but just to re-rout funds and ask you guys to keep looking at abuja for your next daily bread.

It's your elected leaders responsibility to provide what you just listed. Is it some kind of taboo or abomination for you guys to be honest and inject some kind of rational thinking when you make these silly and clueless demands.

Your leaders are not honest, you commoners are not honest. Talk about double jeopardy.

No wonder you guys are getting raped.

My point exactly!
Right in front of their faces the money gets looted. And they constantly keep looking at Aso Rock and Abuja for more and more.

[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=336880.msg4760939#msg4760939 date=1255949493]You found compulsory military service in some countries on wikipedia, and so NYSC is justifed? Did the Federal Government consult Wikipedia for just such a list before instituting the programme in the first place, did they inform you they factored your wikipedia list into thinking up NYSC?[/quote]All the Wikipedia entry was intended for was to show you that the National Service scheme could have been worse than the NYSC for Nigerians, simple as that. Now you're veering off into unintelligent babble here. Did i not exhort you before to keep logic in the forefront despite your passion for the issue at hand?



[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=336880.msg4760939#msg4760939 date=1255949493]A huge percentage of the countries on your list aren't even African countries, but are historically some of the bloodiest, war-torn countries on the planet. Their issues and priorities certainly differ from Nigeria's. Their instituting compulsory military service somehow obligates Nigeria to copy them in some way? And what about more peaceful countries, similar to Nigeria, where no form of compulsory service is required of fresh graduates? What of those countries?[/quote]Yet another illogical statement. Peaceful country? Have you forgotten that the NYSC scheme was started AFTER the very bloody Nigerian Civil war?
Here's the NYSC entry from Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Youth_Service_Corps
The National Youth Service Corps (NYSC) is a program to involve Nigerian graduates in the development of their country. There is no military conscription in Nigeria, but since 1973 graduates of universities and later Polytechnics have been required to take part in the National Youth Service Corps (NYSC) program of their service year.[1]
One of the expectations of the program is that "corps" members should be posted to cities and states[b] far from home and states of origin.They are expected to mix with people of other tribes, social and family backgrounds, to learn the culture of the indigenes in the place they are posted to. It is a way to engender unity in Nigeria, to help youths appreciate other ethnic groupings in the country[/b].


The key item is that the scheme was set up as a form of National Service, with the added benefit of engendering inter-cultural and inter-ethnic integration. The Wikipedia entry for 'National Service' states that it usually comes in the form of millitary conscription.
The Nigerian Government decided that some form of National Service was needed after the Civil War, and my point has been that National Service could easily have taken the form of millitary conscription. However, we got the more benign (and frankly better) form in the NYSC scheme.


Since inception, the NYSC and the corps members have served in the development of Nigeria and Nigerians. I expect that at least 20% of Nigeria's teachers are corps members - and they provide relatively good quality education at the primary and secondary levels in rural areas. That in itself is a positive element.


[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=336880.msg4760939#msg4760939 date=1255949493]I mentioned that 2M is a paltry amount to offer the family. And it is. You come up with some maximum amount the govt can give. Does that make the sums involved any less paltry?

You were the one saying by my description of 2M as small, I was putting a price on the girl's life. Compensating a family for loss has nothing to do with the price of life.[/quote]2 million naira would be a paltry sum only if you're trying to put a price on the girl's life. If the objective is not to price the girl's life, then what is offered becomes a token. Simple as that.


[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=336880.msg4760939#msg4760939 date=1255949493]You were the one saying by my description of 2M as small, I was putting a price on the girl's life. Compensating a family for loss has nothing to do with the price of life. And my analogy is relevant, since it is the appropriateness of monetary compensation for loved ones lost that is under discussion, not whether the circumstances are similar. I see a reference to the well-oiled legal systems in America and Europe where compensation for human loss is ingrained into the system, is 'illogical' to you. Man.[/quote]Compensation is 'ingrained into the system' in the legal systems in America and Europe when it can be proven that the party on trial is directly or indirectly responsible for the death of the affected persons.
Even the greatest lawyer in the world will find it an impossible task to successfully convince a judge that the Federal Government bears the responsibility for her death.

So yes, comparing this situation to an air crash incident where the airline is usually culpable for the tragedy is nothing short of illogical.

snowdrops:
Too long an article. But if the reaon they are getting sued is because of what i think it is, then serves them right

Too long to read? Dumbass

@topic
Hope the lady wins. I suggest the Nigerians who love petitioning get in on this case ASAP.

Beaf:
10% is too small. This proposal is a means for divide and rule.

Give us true federalism.

You will probably never get 'true federalism'.
And 10% is a pretty good deal when you stack it alongside the derivation money already accruing to the ND states.

This will finally force the people of the ND to look inwards at their corrupt local leaders who loot the monies intended for development at the state and grassroots level.

zuuby:
How are we sure it's not some american ,indian or whatever masquerading as Nigerians

um, because the money is usually sent to Nigeria?

temmytanny:
the question isnt who owns guardian? rememeber vanguard was the first to leak the planned invasion of banks by CBN in march.no body took it serious.they even talked about islamic bank and sanusi hasnt hidden is plan for such.

am not saying ex-CEOs have done right by issuing loans without collateral but all banks are culprit in these act.

the way CBN auditted some first and allowed others to clean up b4 auditing theirs is questionable.

CBN scared the whole of nigeria and international communities by injecting 420billion but only less 100b was used by the banks.

why wasnt UNITY bank axed? just last year CBN injected 70billion into it and stil CBN claim there isnt fund for them now to operate.where is the 70Billion?(northern agenda?)am not being tribalistic but why was UNITY allowed to go free despite been given 70bilion last year with nothing to show for it and they stil more money now?

why was ETB axed when its non performing loan is just less 40billion and not even an inch close to that of firstbank,access and zenith?

out 8trillion naira loan,only 1trillion are owned by the 8 axed banks,who owns the remaining 7trillion naira loan(FG-3trillion)?

my people many question begging for answers.

in my own opinion,i think CBN should have given the banks some time to recover these laons,axing the CEO isnt the way forward.

a bank in USA (the 99th bank to record such)lost over $3billion dollars to loans last week and the CEO wanst axed by their apex bank

lastly we nigerians should keep our fingers crossed and lets see how the drama goes. i see the whole thing as nollywood film

very soon,we shall see the victors and the losers.

The answers to many of your questions are out there, but you're too lazy to go find them out. You'd rather they were presented to you in the Vanguard newspapers, preferrably with big cartoons so you can understand.

[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=338644.msg4759315#msg4759315 date=1255915821]Just read the yahoo article.Making children swallow cement, bathing them in acid, setting them on fire? God god god god god. Aren't there laws, law enforcement and a government in place in the area? I'm getting tired of being a Nigerian and defending the indefensible. Arbitrary geographical classification I had no hand in. Hopelessly backward country, disgraceful setta people. And of course Nigerians won't step in to save these kids. That's forever the job of Europeans.[/quote]Thank God someone shares my outrage over this shitty abuse of children. and it has been going on for years!
But we Nigerians will rather petitiion against British Airways and Sony than focus on the rot in our own country. Nonsense.

bibiking1:
@Texazzpete
You still are not convincing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,there are other countries that DO NOT undertake this compulsory scheme!

Exactly. There could be better, and there could be worse.
In all the countries that do not undertake compulsory millitary service, what other national service scheme is in place? Typically it's none.

National service is typically intended to boost patriotism and increase integration among many other purposes. Such a scheme was needed in Nigeria after the civil war. Hence the NYSC scheme. And as a form of national service, it's obviously more benign than millitary service.

malone5923:
@All. Is anybody in the house a nintendo wii owner?

Yeah, i got a wii.

kosovo:
Nations Rise and Fall,
it will happen, just the same way KOSOVO broke out from SERBIA
just like USSR, Like CHINA, Nigeria is no exemption,
i can only pray it happens faster than i can imagine,

Kosovo, when exactly did China 'fall'?

[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=336880.msg4759266#msg4759266 date=1255913704]They should scrap the useless scheme. It's lost focus and its original purpose isn't being served. What reasons have YOU for wanting it to remain? Offering the family money isn't it. Offering them such a silly amount is even worse somehow. By someone paying, I meant Justice being done one way or the other, CONSEQUENCES, so they don't just make noise for a while and then sweep it under the carpet, until the next person is killed. That's the THIRD TIME a Corper will be murdered in that town for crying out loud. And nothing happened the first two times either.[/quote]How exactly did you come to the conclusion that its original purpose is not being served in some cases? There are corpers who benefit immensely from the scheme - just as there are some who do not. Either way, the NYSC scheme indirectly serves as a means to provide education to the nation, seeing as how over 60% of the corps members are drafted as teachers in rural communities.
All i see is people crying over every little adversity. It could certainly have been a lot worse.

Take a look at this list i copied from Wikipedia showing countries with mandatory millitary service


Military service limited to 1 year or less
Austria (6 months)
Bolivia (12 months)
Brazil (9–12 months)
Denmark (4–12 months)
Ecuador (selective conscription)
El Salvador (selective conscription)
Estonia (8–11 months)
Finland (6–12 months)
Germany (9 months)
Greece (9 months)
Guatemala (12–24 months)
Mexico (selective conscription)
Moldavia (12 months)
Mongolia (12 months)
Norway
Paraguay (12 months for Army, 24 months for Navy)
Russia (12 months)
Serbia (6 months)
Switzerland
Taiwan (selective conscription)
Tunisia (12 months)
Ukraine (12 months)
Uzbekistan (12 months)


Military service limited to 18 months[/b]Azerbaijan
Cambodia
Colombia
Cote d'Ivoire
Eritrea
Georgia
Iran
Laos
Madagascar
Turkey (6–15 months)


[b]Military service longer than 18 months, no unarmed option
Armenia
Congo (Democratic Republic)
Cuba
Equatorial Guinea
Egypt
Guinea
Israel (24 months for women, 36 months for men)
Kazakhstan
Kyrgyzstan
Libya
Mozambique
North Korea
São Tomé and Príncipe
Singapore (disregarding Civil Defence forces which is part of the Interior Ministry)
Somalia
South Korea
Syria
Sudan
Tajikistan
Thailand
Turkmenistan
Vietnam


We're here complaining about NYSC when kids from many other nations go through even more adverse circumstances in the name of National Service.



[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=336880.msg4759266#msg4759266 date=1255913704]And please. Cut out the 'putting a price on the girl's life' thing. In some countries with a well-oiled legal system families are compensated for losing loved ones all the time. It has nothing to do with putting a price on the loved one's life. That's why it's called 'compensation', not 'Life purchase' or 'Life Price'. Everyone knows there is no price for a life.[/quote]The federal government has offered the statutory gratuity of N500000 to the family of the dead corps member. That's what they are mandated by law to offer. The Borno State Government offered N2 million naira as compensation, which they are in no way mandated to offer.
Your reference to 'well oiled legal system' is frankly illogical. There is no legal responsibility on the part of the Borno State Government for the girl's death.
Keep your bias away from your thought processes. Would you insist that the Lagos state government bear responsibility for any and every death in Lagos?

[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=336880.msg4759266#msg4759266 date=1255913704]When a plane crashed in Nigeria and the airline shelled out to the victims' family, were they 'putting a price' on all the lives lost?[/quote]If you need me to explain the difference between these two scenarios - and the absurdity of using this as an analogy - i'm afraid there's little i can do for you.

[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=336880.msg4756821#msg4756821 date=1255879077]They're stupid for offering the poor girl's family 2M.The amount is offensive.If they can, the family should sue the government of that state and NYSC, just so there's a lot of publicity and someone, anyone, pays for this. The poster who said this sort of thing keeps happening because there are ZERO consequences every time, is right.The average Northerner knows he may kill with impunity, esp since his fellow lunatics are in Govt, and this makes the North a danger zone to other Nigerians.And yet they go about unmolested in other parts of the country. It's not right to kill innocent people in retribution.It doesn't make sense.But we should stop letting these people get away with murder time and again. Honestly if anyone generates a petition here to demand justice for the girl and that they scrap that useless NYSC scheme I'll extend a paw and sign it in a sec.[/quote]So it's down to putting a price on the girl's life abi?
The Federal Govt is only obligated to bringing the girl's killers to justice, not to pay any money as compensation. It's one thing to reject the money so as to reinforce the seriousness of their demands for justice, it's another to reject the money offered because it is 'too small'.
It's premature to say she was killed because her killers knew they can 'kill with impunity'. You think it's not in the Government's best interest to bring the killers to book? Without an extensive databank of DNA samples like their western counterparts, it is doubtful the police can find the killers. Except someone comes forward with a confession.


As for scrapping the NYSC scheme, i do not support that.

Funny how people describe cars as 'liabilities' solely due to the depreciating value and cost of maintenance. However these same people hesitate to describe their aged parents as liabilities also. And that's just plain funny.

Having a car saves you time. And we know time is money. A car also often serves to reduce the stress of bus hopping and heat stroke from the sun. And we all know health is wealth.

Don't mind me jo, i'm just having fun  

Beaf:
^Police So you are following me from thread to thread? . . .Tag along little puppy.

Follow who? A halfwit like you?!
Silly ideas like yours stick in the mind. Unfortunately. And it's only been a couple of days. Not my fault if YOU have short term memory issues.

You're probably not irredeemable, seeing as how you were honest enough not to dispute the 'hypocrite' charge.

edwin101:
point of correction a car is not an investment but a liability ok!

How exactly is a car a liability?

[quote author=Ijele-igbo link=topic=338703.msg4747003#msg4747003 date=1255711876]Enough resources is not getting into Anambra state because obi is an APGA Man while Nigeria is ruled by PDP. Anambra can't survive without the federal government and Anambra is not like Lagos which is independent and strong enough to fetch revenues. So you see, only PDP at the moment can bring smiles unto the faces of Anambranians and Soludo is just the right man for the job.[/quote]And this is precisely why you're a goat! So you're indirectly saying your state has been cheated of its rightful revenue by the PDP run Federal Government over political differences and your only solution to this injustice is to cosy up to those starving you of development, abi?

Pathetic!




[quote author=Ijele-igbo link=topic=338703.msg4747222#msg4747222 date=1255714140]@asha80. You don't know a Bleep about Anambra politics so shut da Bleep up. Only soludo can make things happen. I am an Anambranian and live in Anambra. I perfectly understand the political situation here.[/quote]And your 'understanding' is that the only solution is to kiss PDP's arse, abi?



[quote author=Ijele-igbo link=topic=338703.msg4747222#msg4747222 date=1255714140]I was at the women's development centre at Awka yesterday where Mr. Peter Obi was displaying his stupidity. First of all, he was indirectly insulting soludo saying that Good leadership does not require all the degress in the world but rather attitude and discipline.[/quote]And how exactly does that qualify as 'stupid'? Hasn't experience of Nigerian matters showed you that that is absolutely correct?
President and Vice are university lecturers with PhDs and yet both are ineffectual. Education minister Sam Egwu has university degrees and a PhD. Borishade is a Prof and he's one of the worst ever to hold a leadership position in Nigeria.
So i think you're the stupid one, mate.


[quote author=Ijele-igbo link=topic=338703.msg4747222#msg4747222 date=1255714140]Secondly he was fooling himself and not ndi Anambra by declaring he wants to build 4000 primary school classrooms with the latest roboform technology. 1000 every year and started to give the president general of each town union of a community 2million naira including a booklet for the plan. A STUPID CAMPAIGN FOR HIS QUEST TO COME BACK FOR A SECOND TERM.[/quote]And that's any less believable than Soludo's promise to 'turn Anambra into Dubai'?
By the time he's finished paying off his PDP paymasters and puppeteers, how much will be left for development in the state?

[quote author=Ijele-igbo link=topic=338703.msg4751725#msg4751725 date=1255787228]I'm so dissapointed that you guyz are sayin all this about soludo after all he has done in CBN? Just check it out! All the aspirants wey come out no one reach Ngige who is easily intimated and can't stand his grounds.[/quote]Yes, his exploits as CBN Governor are precisely the reason why he cannot be trusted with Governing a state. In his role as the chief arbiter and watchdog of the banking sector, he failed woefully.

[quote author=Ijele-igbo link=topic=338703.msg4752241#msg4752241 date=1255792512]Give soludo a chance, he will make a difference in Anambra. He is not like all these politicians. He is different![/quote]Different, huh? That explains why his chief backer is none other than Chief Anenih, a man we all know to be a paragon of decency and accountability

Beaf:
^
. . .Temperamental.

When you hear that JTF straffed a community at a festival with helicopter gunships or shelled them from both land and sea; do you think it was chickens dying?

Sometimes you need to sit back and think before speaking.

And you need to think about how hypocritical you sound when you moralize like this. Afterall, you're the guy who's been publicly praying that all Policemen should be killed, notwithstanding the fact that a whole lot of them are decent individuals.

In you own words, 'all police should be blown up'.

Afam:
However, no one is interested in the money your are talking about. If you are so sure that it does not exist then[b] I see no reason why you should not be ready to take the bullet if your belief is proven to be fundamentally flawed.[/b]

I'm sorry, but the part in bold does not logically compute. I have made no claims to being bullet proof, why should i then volunteer myself to be shot in turn?
The monetary reward is to encourage anyone willing to take me up on the offer. But then again, haven't we established that Nigerian jazz men are strangely averse to making money?

Enough talk. If you know people who are happy to repel bullets against the JTF et al for free, then they should have no difficulty in partaking in a public demonstration of their abilities for which they'll be well rewarded.
Is N500000 to small? I'll up the ante to 1 million. Desert Eagle shot to the head from 3 feet away. Repel and get paid. Simple.

Afam:
Are you willing to take a bet and try it on someone that believes and uses juju to repel bullet on the condition that if the bullet does not penetrate he should return fire on you?

If yes, I will get people that do this to take up your challenge.

If no then stop turning a serious issue like this into a joke simply because you have not witnessed anything like this.

Well, people say lots of things. Do i believe anything just because i haven't 'witnessed' it myself? No!
I am not willing to enter any agreement or consider any scenario that involves anyone who luckily survives a bullet wound turning a gun on me. However, if you're game, i'll pay N500000 to anyone who manages to repel a bullet fired from my gun. I have no hangups about killing anyone, so it may well be a worthwhile diversion to:

1. Prove my point
2. Rid the world of one more occultist

I'd like to see the day these our famed Juju men ensure Nigeria wins the world cup.