₦airaland Forum

Both Muza and binkabir belong to the same religious group. And this now confirms that they belong to the ultra-fanatical sect that insist (despite all the evidence to the contrary) that there was no holocaust.

And to think Muza once seemed like a sensible fellow.

mikeansy:
I will assume you never heard the word 'open letter'

You do not send a somewhat accusatory email to an erstwhile friend, and then make public the letter on the internet even before he has a chance to reply.

it is clear that some people are hell bent on setting up RIbadu as a tin god unto themselves, and they will try to pull down anyone that gets in their way.

but you have a worrying habit of dodging salient, important issues.

Without the power of an executive President at his back (unlike Ribadu), Keyamo has been central to raising awareness and pushing for the trial and prosecution of key players in both the PEF fraud and the on-going probe into the National Assembly's car purchase fraud. Yet you still belittle the man.

Is no one apart from Ribadu allowed to fight corruption?

I have challenged you to take apart Keyamo's response point by point, try and find gaps in his logic. You have since failed to rise to the occasion, resorting instead to using what debosky called 'motorpark reasoning'.


I see now that all you and your allies are doing is stalling for time until Sowore replies and provides you with more information.

hajifaty:
America want to be in every part of the world, that was why the terrorist State of Israel was enforced on the people of the Md East. The xtians and the west are the one behind all the atrocities that Israel is committing in the region.

So who's behind all the evil benevolent deeds Al Qaeda is committing all over the world? The Buddhists?

hajifaty:
Xtians and the Jews are just like a DOG that is already going astray[b] but they don't want to listen to the voice of the righteous path[/b].

By righteous path, do you mean 'at the edge of a sword'? just like Dan Fodio and his lieutenants did? We've had enough of this 'righteous path'.

LagosBoy, do you now see what these people really think of you?

Not only dangerous. It's frankly a stupid comparison.

Interesting fact, though. Muza and binkabir are quite willing to put their brains on a day off just to regurgitate what their mullahs told them.

mikeansy:
What is wrong in making a public letter public?

You people are too funny

A man who calls himself a public commentator goes mute on an issue he would have naturally commented on except for the fact that he was complicit on this occassion. And people are suggesting that in other to call him out on that you should have written a private letter.

If Festus Keyamo does not want to recieve any further public letters and respond appropriately like a responsible public commentator does then he should remain silent for good.

Well I have never taken Festus Keyamo seriously anyway.

You are the funny one here.
A letter addressed to someone is presumed private by the recipient. Why would Keyamo be amused when the letter is a thinly veiled insinuation that Keyamo's conscience had been bought over by money?

If you had been in Keyamo's shoes and you had just been through a hectic and harrowing couple of months where you were hounded, abused and even threatened with death in the chambers of the national assembly all because of your determination to report a scam, would you feel pleased at that kind of letter?

Apparently you expect a lawyer of all people to go around calling people names in the papers without proof, eh? He's thrown down the gauntlet to Sowore; provide proof and i will act.
If you were really sincere in your hatred against corruption, you'd be egging Sowore on to provide proof. Instead you're here talking about if Keyamo is prominent enough to be listened to.

This is a discouraging insight into your IQ levels.

Keyamo does not care if you take him seriously. I know what he has done in the past couple of months. and that speaks for itself.

hajifaty:
Maybe, we should give these kharki guys another chance. Meanwhile, during IBB regime we can still use N5 to buy guguru and epa with gari

Yeah! Freedom of expression is so overrated, huh?

And guess which Millitary dictator led us into SAP and severe economic downturn. That's right, IBB!
Instead of working to make democracy thrive and work in Nigeria, people are already throwing up their hands in despair.

Don't worry sha, it's not a purely Nigerian thing. After all the Bible tells us that the Israelites were telling Moses they wanted to go bck to slavery in Egypt instead of suffering in the desert.

People still buy Playstation 2?!

igwe 1:
You don't have to compare sheep with goat even when both have similar features.I 'd loved you bargain now that you have the opportunity, else your comments and ridicules won't make him dash you the car for free.

At least what i said has had the desired effect. He's built some flexibility into his prices.
I never indicated that i wanted this car, let alone for free. So i fail to see where this vitriol is coming from. Would it have helped you comprehend better if i had placed a smilie right after my 'harmattan' joke?

But this is nairaland, where people jump to silly conclusions.

This is getting really funny

First off, Sowore started the absurdity by making the letter available to the public, and insinuating that Keyamo's credibility is in doubt since he's being paid by the EFCC.

Now here's the question i want answered

If you're a prominent anti-corruption lawyer/activist and you want to use your full expertise obtained in the legal practice to fight corruption, how do you do it? As a private lawyer you have little or no access to evidence or incrinminating documents to pursue your case. You are extremely limited in the caliber of people you can dock for corruption.
As a high-profile lawyer attached to a Government anti-corruption agency, you have access to case files, evidence and EFCC agents to make arrests and seize evidence. So what is the best place for a lawyer committed to the fight against corruption if not the EFCC?
And if you're attached to the EFCC, why not be paid?

All you people abusing Keyamo have conveniently forgotten how he has been confronting the National Assembly over the N2.3 billion scam over the purchase of vehicles. Which public official in Nigeria has done more to fight corruption in the past 5 months?! Were you not aware when he received death threats even in the House of Reps?

Someone insinuated he had been bought over with money. He replied giving detailed information on how he has worked for FREE on many occassions yet people are saying he's 'blowing his own trumpet'.

mikeansy:
This confirms my thought all along

Festus Keyamo does not deserve to prominent voice in our nation

what kind of blabbing is this

This mentality you have is not gonna be helpful to you in life, let me tell you upfront.
You had a mindset that anyone who does not jump on the Ribadu bandwagon must be evil, and as such i'll bet you didnt even read what Keyamo had to say.
Why don't you go over what he said and then YOU write out what he said that is wrong or illogical. I dare you!

mikeansy:
, and what does Omoyele's medical records got to do with his silence over Waziri's EFCC.

Keyamo is naturally pissed off at Sowore for going public with the letter even after he had sent a private copy to Keyamo. The original letter insinuated that Keyamo had been silenced by the EFCC with cash. Even i would be annoyed.

mikeansy:
Festus Keyamo is just some little fool who should not be taken seriously in an organised country.

Yet you forget that Keyamo is the one that is taking the House of Reps to task for the billions of naira embezzled in the peugeot scandal. No one else. Isn't this part of the battle against corruption? Are you now saying we should squash this investigation also?
Unfortunately for you, Keyamo is an established, respectable lawyer. You on the other hand have now shown yourself to lack any reasonable amount of intelligence.

Sowore just got pwned by Keyamo!
The part in bold is the most important part of his response.

idiopathic:
> > What I have done and I continue to do is to say I disagree
> > with those who now seek to build our collective struggle to
> > enthrone a corrupt-free society around a policeman who was
> > picked by a corrupt dictator, bent on perpetuating himself
> > in office, to do his bidding.

I am appalled that so many Nigerians are using Ribadu's travails as a basis for abandoning the fight against corruption. ONly in Nigeria do we embrace mediocrity, and have such low benchmarks for success.

Look, as we speak the May or Baltimore is soon to go on trial for corruption. The prosecutors allege she misused $15000 of taxpayers money.
This same Mayor has cut down unemployment and reduced the city's homicide rate to it's lowest level in many many years.

If it was in Nigeria people would say that she has  tried, that we should leave her alone.

Sometimes i weep for country.

It's one thing to beef yar' adua, it's another to wish him dead or call for a coup. 
Are these people so childish that they dabble in such treacherous waters?
Abeg,  Seun, when the SSS come calling do all you can to hand over these retards to them.

Does everything have to be a party?!

Build some flexibility into your prices. Why would someone buy a 48000 mile 07 camry when he can buy a brand new 2008 Honda Civic for very close to that amount?

I hope you're pretty firm on the rates you pay the guy who has to wash the harmattan dust off the car as you wait for a gullible buyer?

Lagosboy:
@Texxapete
I ignored your posts because thats the best thing to do. OBJ is guilty for wiping out Odi and if you look at some of my posts i have mentioned it many times. Nigeria's crimes in liberia is shameful and wrong in fact it is inhumane and we condemn it. the thing is i don't understand the relationship here and thats why i ignored it.

You don't understand it, huh?

It's called an analogy. Look up the word in a dictionary.

You said Israel is a terrorist State because (according to you)
1. It harmed many civillians during this war
2. They are occupying land that did not originally belong to them

I have now mentioned that Nigerian soldiers
1. harmed many civillians during the Liberian intervention and permitted the slaughter of hundreds of civillians by other rebel groups allied to them
2. in Parts of Northern Nigeria polulated by fulanis, the land was taken by conquest from the original inhabitants who fled in fright into the mountains of cameroon to escape the jihad.

So thus by your very own standards, Nigeria is thus a terrorist state.

This is your own logic i'm throwing back at you. Even on as intellectually challenged as yourself should easily grasp the concept.

auwal87:
And when you very sure that your enemy has plans to kill your whole family and destroy your properties, would you stand by?

Oh you mean like Hamas, Hezbollah and Ahmadinejad's publicly declared intent to wipe the jews off the earth, eh?
oh, sorry. Forgot that your kind approves of such plans as long as they involve shedding 'infidel' blood.

auwal87:
Anyone (of course being stupid) talking about the first group that started this and that, it is all the it is, Israel have already planned on what they will do in the middle east. UN has called for ceasefire, but Israel shun that call.

A ceasefire during which Hamas lobs rockets every so often into Israel? Or accept a ceasefire while hamas brings in more deadly rockets?

What people like Lagosboy are too daft to realise is that as long as there is an intent, there will be a way. While they spout the same silly line about only a few people killed in Israel, they fail to realise that the casualties from the rockets landing is Israel are only limited by the technology available to them. Which means as soon as Hamas develops weapons capable of killing far more isrealis, they'll use them.
And then, when the death toll rises, people like you and Lagosboy will mount another inane defence.

Good luck getting a buyer at that price. You'll need it.

Yeah, they confirmed that 3D gaming will not be possible on this current version of the OS. And to think the device has a PowerVR SGX chip, fully openGL 2.0 compliant. this, coupled with a 600 - 1000 Mhz ARM CPU means this should blow the PSP out of the water in terms of 3D rendering.

All the same, i'm glad this came out. I think apple has gotten too complacent with the iPhone firmware upgrades. Was almost certain of a new firmware in Macworld.

Logica, those your guys working on the bluetooth file exchange service neva deliver o!

auwal87:
These guys you are arguing with are all EVIL people, they have no clue what so ever, they are only taking sides because of religion

BWAHHAHAAHAAHAHAHA!!
Do you know how hilarious you sound?
Here you have a Christian fellow in Lagosboy firmly on your side. How many muslim fellers have you seen speaking up for Israel? Hell, even my nice, moderate muslim friends always add a 'but' when they are condemning the 9/11 attacks.

auwal87:
I bet, if to say Palestine was predominantly Christians, they will never adjust the crisis to being defensive.

If palestine was Christian this situation would never be in place. No Suicide Bombers, no ambush of buses carrying kids.

Funny you mention Christians. In recent times, Christians are streaming out of Iraq in their thousands and being shot down and intimidated. No comment from your likes on this matter. yet you claim religious bias.



@LagosBoy
your argument style is extremely flawed. At least david tackles all the tricky questions while you ignore them and post more drivel. Every single time your logic is taken to task, you ignore all such critiques and steam on.

So, do you agree you come from a terrorist nation too?

Lagosboy:
Hamas respected the ceasefire , the rockets were minimal.

Tell me you did not just say "The rockets were minimal"

If someone gave you that excuse for bombing your house, what would be your opinion?

Lagosboy:
Israel went for the attack. Never lift the siege in the first place which was a violation of the ceasfire.

if you amd yuour enemy agreed a temporary truce which was meant to lead to peace, yet you see your enemy digging tunnels to transport weapons (nott he food that the gazans needed) what would you do? When your enemy sends down a rain of rockets and is using the time to upgrade their existing missiles to be more potent against you, would you stand idly by?

This was written by Human Rights Watch, and it shows that Nigerian soldiers were heavily involved in the deaths of civillians and the destruction of large quantities of food meant for civillians.

When you couple this with the fact that parts of Northern nigeria are lands taken from the original occupants by Usman Dan Fodio's jihadists, you find that Nigeria can also be called land occupiers. A sterling example is Adamawa state where the original occupants are now living in the mountain regions of Cameroun, after being chased there by Adama, a lieutenant of Dan Fodio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modibo_Adama
Upon Adama's death in 1847, his son Muhammadu Lawal became Emir of Adamawa. The empire was not to last, however, as colonial battles and division eventually destroyed the independent Fulani state. The conquest had long-term repercussions, however. The Fulani became the dominant ethnic group in the region, and Islam the major religion. The herdsmen altered the land to be more suitable for herding cattle, their primary pursuit. The jihad also pushed those peoples who had lived on the Adamawa Plateau south into the forest, the single most important event in the populating of Southern Cameroon.

Ironically, the Adamawa was more sparsely populated after Adama's conquest. Rather than fight the Fulani invaders, many peoples fled, displacing others in turn. The Adamawa Plateau, once home to many of Cameroon's ethnic groups, soon became a pastureland, and the forest zone of Cameroon became more heavily populated.
So going by your definition, Nigeria can also be called a terrorist state. And YOU are a terrorist by extension, 

How do you like them apples now, mister?

PS: Since i don't subscribe to your beliefs, i'm not a terrorist Nigerian like you 

@Lagosboy
Do you know that during the Liberian war, Nigerian troops in ECOMOG did things similar to what you're condemning Israel for?

http://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports/1993/liberia/


ECOMOG Air Strikes
Since late October, ECOMOG has conducted a series of bombing and strafing raids using Nigeria's Alpha jets on Taylor territory. Taylor has no air force, and ECOMOG planes can easily reach targets all over the country. Targets have included the port of Buchanan and areas around Gbarnga, Kakata, Harbel and Greenville. A particularly serious charge involves violations of medical neutrality, such as attacks on hospitals.

Precise information about the targets and casualties are not available, because independent observers have been prevented for security reasons from travelling to the sites. NPFL officials report that hundreds of civilians have been killed and wounded. There is no indication that ECOMOG has conducted any investigations about attacks on civilians, hospitals or international relief operations in Taylor territory.

There have been many reports, by ECOMOG as well as other neutral sources, of the NPFL using the civilian population or civilian institutions as a shield for its military activities. Using civilians as a shield is a direct violations of Article 51 (7) of Protocol I of the Geneva Conventions, which states:

The presence of movements of the civilian population or individual civilians shall not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations, in particular in attempts to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield, favor or impede military operations.

Although evidence is difficult to gather, many sources believe that this practice is used frequently by the NPFL. Nevertheless, ECOMOG still has an obligation to protect civilians, and the rule of proportionality (see below) still applies.


Civilian Targets
ECOMOG has distinct responsibilities under international humanitarian law to protect the civilian population. United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2444 (1968) affirms:

. . . the following principles for observance by all government and other authorities responsible for action in armed conflicts:

(a) that the right of the parties to a conflict to adopt means of injuring the enemy is not unlimited;

(b) That it is prohibited to launch attacks against the civilian populations as such;

(c) That distinction must be made at all times between persons taking part in the hostilities and members of the civilian population to the effect that the latter be spared as much as possible.

The preamble to this resolution clearly states that these fundamental humanitarian law principles apply "in all armed conflicts."

Humanitarian law prohibits attacks that, while aiming at a military target, may be expected to inflict disproportionate harm on the civilian population. This rule of proportionality is set forth in Article 51(5)(b) of Protocol I of 1977 to the 1949 Geneva Conventions, which forbids any attack:

which may be expected to cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, damage to civilian objects, or a combination thereof, which would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated.

ECOMOG has a duty to issue rules of engagement designed to strictly limit or avoid civilian casualties, in compliance with the rule of proportionality. Despite ECOMOG denials of wrongdoing by its pilots, the weight of evidence indicates that pilots have conducted indiscriminate attacks and have deliberately attacked relief activities, in violation of the rules of war.

One foreign relief worker noted that the manner in which ECOMOG is conducting air strikes is indiscriminate:

There is evidence that civilian targets have been hit, like the CRS warehouse in Buchanan, the hospital in Harbel and an ambulance near the hospital, although it is not clear who was in the ambulance. ECOMOG is trying to squeeze Taylor at all costs, and human rights questions then arise. They are using indiscriminate attacks, shooting from canons without clear targets. The strategy is to push the NPFL as far out as possible and to regain territory. It's a pax nigerian -- in order to get peace, they must neutralize Taylor. Their mandate is to guarantee peace, and they are going beyond the spirit of the text.43

This view was shared by other relief groups that operate in Taylor territory. Representatives of one relief organization confirmed that nonstrategic areas have been attacked, citing the attack on Kakata in December 1992, when ECOMOG planes reportedly attacked the main commercial street in the middle of the day and strafed people indiscriminately.44

The civilian population in NPFL territory has become terrorized by the bombings, and often panic at the mere sound of the jets. ECOMOG appears to be taking advantage of these fears by frequently flying over areas without firing, but the sound of the jets sends locals fleeing. Ironically, journalists and foreign relief workers report that the air strikes have had the effect of turning civilians in Taylor territory away from ECOMOG toward support for Taylor, rather than the intended effect of breaking the NPFL's will to fight. As one relief worker said: "They say this is proving Taylor was right, that ECOMOG is coming to kill us."45 Another journalist put it this way: "ECOMOG's name is mud now; the bombings are helping Taylor's cause. When I was there [in NPFL territory] last year, ECOMOG still had credibility."46

Among the air attacks that have caused concern about the civilian toll are the following:


a) On November 16, 1992, ECOMOG bombed the Catholic Relief Services (CRS) warehouse in Buchanan, destroying large quantities of rice and blended food. The warehouse was clearly marked with "CRS" painted in large letters on the roof.


b) The attack on the village of Gbinta in the Ivory Coast at the Liberian border on February 27. According to the Ivorian government, six people were wounded -- five soldiers and one customs official.47 Although ECOMOG claimed that it was aiming for the Liberian side of the border, it is highly unlikely that they could have mistakenly hit Ivorian territory, since the border is clearly marked by a river. In addition, at the time of the attack, a UNICEF convoy with humanitarian supplies was just crossing the border into Liberia, and another convoy by MSF Belgium was on the way.
The attack has been widely interpreted as a warning by ECOMOG to the Ivorian authorities that they must prevent the NPFL from using the Ivory Coast border crossings to re-arm and re-supply his forces. Despite Ivorian contentions that they have effectively sealed up the border since the imposition of sanctions in November 1992, the border is known to be very porous. The Ivorian authorities have supported Taylor throughout much of the Liberian conflict.


c) On March 2, a CRS truck distributing food on the outskirts of Buchanan was strafed. Reports indicate that between 75 and 100 civilians, mostly women and children, were near the truck when it was attacked. The truck was marked with the CRS logo.


d) The strafing raid on the market in Gbarnga and Kollila on March 27, which relief workers reported left four civilians dead and 26 others taken to Phebe Hospital for injuries. Another strafing raid on Gbarnga took place on April 6.48


Many reports about the strafings of civilians or civilian targets indicate that ECOMOG planes chase civilians. One foreign journalist attributed this practice to "hot-rodding" by the pilots and soldiers. "This isn't Desert Storm," she said. "This is a low tech war, and they are sloppy."49 Another journalist observed: "They are probably not under orders, but the young pilots do what they want to."50

ECOMOG contends that any civilian casualties are unintentional and the result of collateral damage. General Olurin stated that ECOMOG conducts air strikes aimed at supply routes and arms caches in NPFL territory, but denied reports that ECOMOG planes intentionally hit civilian targets. He claimed that the air strikes were "very, very carefully limited to strategic locations."51 In an interview with Africa Watch, General Olurin went so far as to accuse the NPFL of putting their own explosives in certain locations, like Phebe Hospital outside Gbarnga, and then blaming ECOMOG for bombing.52

@cabali
Yeah, i'm back. Still frantically trying to get fast internet in my house. Dunno what's wrong with my place

MTN 3G turns to 2G once you get indoors
Starcomms EVDO turns to CDMA 1x some meters from my house
All Wimax solution i've tested do not get any appreciable signal, even though the baffled salesmen assure me that people not too far from that area get good signals. I've tried Direct on PC, Hyperia Wimax etc

It's a really, really shitty situation, but i still manage to keep up with what's going on. Namely

1. Ex Inferis, Logica are holding the fort nicely, and possibly chasing away casual observers with geek speak
2. Flyuche doesn't realise that Muza was out for the humor (he's since relocated to the Politics section and Israel bashing), he (Flyuche) strangely feels he has something to offer and does not realise how much of an idiotic troll he sounds like

I dunno about this 'Phones' section, man. there's very few people doing what this forum was set up for and actually discussing PHONES. CES 2009 is on right now, not too many new devices announced, but at least we've got the Palm Pre as perhaps the first device to make a convincing competitor to the iPhone's UI and there's no talk about that.

Meanwhile, someone in the office got hold of that 'iphone 3g vs stone' chart and now i have a different battle to fight on home turf

cabali, your number isn't going through.

Initial impression from Engadget

1. Really sleek user Interface, as revolutionary or even more so than the iPhone's
2. web browser faster at rendering, displaying and scrolling through pages than any of its competitors, including Mobile Safari

http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/#continued

YEsterday at CES 2009 (shame on any of you who don't know what that is) Palm announced their next gen OS, running on their new mobile flagship phone.
So far all i've seen is really impressive.

But don't take my word for it. Check it out in the link above

https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/01/palm-pre-hands-on-2-sm.jpg


https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/01/pre-deet-003.jpg

https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/01/pre-deet-005.jpg

airroseice:
Well I Guess I'll just stick to the Standard TV Version ryt?
F**k em all

I really don't think you can watch any TV on your N96 in Nigeria. it's got to be DVB-H, and for now the only players are MTN with this dstv thingy.

Nope. The most annoying thing is you apparently do not know the difference between 'Unarmed' and 'unharmed'.

And that's just lame.

It does make the title wildly humorous though.

deor03:
Nigerians also pay taxes; i even pay more that what i was paying while working in the UK. It is NOT by the taxes you pay in UK/US that matters but how it is effectively put to use by the government of those countries. I see no extra contribution from any foreigner living in these countries apart from those taxes which are even deducted before you are paid.

By far the majority of people who pay taxes are people whose taxes are deducted before they even get the money. Most of the others who can avoid paying taxes do so. Even if i cannot provide raw statistics to back up what we all know, it's obvious from threads on nairaland relating to taxes that many Nigerians do not believe in paying tax to a non-functional government.

deor03:
It is easier said than done. Who do you expext to challenge a man carrying a fully loaded GUN. Or do you think the Jews did not have balls under the Nazis ; or the palestines right now Israelis?

Thailand? Greece? These are modern day examples. All it takes is a popular cry of outrage. Nigeria cannot afford to pull a china and do another tiananmen style massacre of civillians. You know how long it took apartheid south africa to live down those images of black people gunned down in the streets?

However, i wasn't calling for a demonstration of a challenge to loaded Guns. it is well within the constitutional rights of the Senate and House of rep members to pass a bill outlawing the carrying of horsewhips, or to pressure yar'Adua to enact more laws curbing the excesses of the armed forces.
Nigerians too can recall Senators and Reps members. but the lure of filthy lucre has stripped us of that power.

deor03:
I totally agree about seeing things from a diffrent perspective and you and I have every right to be appalled about the state of everything in the country, but again I insist that it is rather an unfair to say Nigerian have NO balls.

Perhaps i was a bit too heavy-handed with my generalization. No offence meant.

deor03:
Nigerians also pay taxes; i even pay more that what i was paying while working in the UK. It is NOT by the taxes you pay in UK/US that matters but how it is effectively put to use by the government of those countries. I see no extra contribution from any foreigner living in these countries apart from those taxes which are even deducted before you are paid.
It is easier said than done. Who do you expext to challenge a man carrying a fully loaded GUN. Or do you think the Jews did not have balls under the Nazis ; or the palestines right now Israelis?
If you can raise your voice in the UK/US, it is NOT ( and I REPEAT ; it is NOT ) because you have balls BUT because the government let you.

I totally agree about seeing things from a diffrent perspective and you and I have every right to be appalled about the state of everything in the country, but again I insist that it is rather an unfair to say Nigerian have NO balls.

Lagosboy:
700 now slaughtered. 205 children out of the 600 killed, in mathematics that is more than 33% and a large chunk of the remaining are women.

You've just slaughtered mathematics, my friend.

Lagosboy:
Tell Israel to withdraw into its 1967 borders and vacate west bank and jerusalem then they would no peace. If they refuse to give up their stolen property they are on a journey of futility.

This is why some of us have urged you to go over ther and join in the fighting. You're clearly out of the loop. What Hamas, Al Qaeda and ahmedinejad wants is the total destruction of Israel and the murder of it's people.

Didn't you get the memo?