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dblock:
who said i can't spell it's called typing fast replying to your pathetic posts aren't all i do you know you. are you calling my pc crap ya cheapskate, menn this is pointless, the reason a ps2 emulator can't be mastered is because it is hard to create the roms due to the security features of the ps2, now to shut you up kai kai kan blo mama blo mama bo mama blo u kai kai kan blo papa blo u, i wara blo me com daun long halve sense blo u, kanaka nothing, baim throwimem bikpela han insait long face blo u nah olgeta kan isait long maus blo u, ----peace--- , sorry Seun, justa little feud, keep it comin whats your name again ya pathetic excuse for an amoeba or are you an algae i can't quite remmember

it's easy to blame it on typing fast, but most of us who know that the 'i' key and 'e' key are far apart on the keyboard know this to be a lie.
All current ps2 emus play games straight from the dvd-rom drive or from game images. Any ape can use Alcohol 120% to rip the game image (or rom, if you will) in a matter of minutes. if you aren't aware of this, it means you kno next-to-nothing about ps2 emulation. stop lying.

It's easy to see why you're such a big fan of VBA. Since it requires no configuration or plugins your feeble brain can easily grasp its concept. get off your arse and research the ps2 emus available now.

I do not engage in verbal sparring with people who are so clearly intellectually challenged. So i politely decline your invitation to a feud. You're simply not worth the effort. all you are, at this point, is a time wasting diversion.
Get a life.

dblock:
emi ke, you crack me up, are uou one of those illeterates or something, i was just saying the guys behind visualboy are the best in emulators and they should consider taking up the roll of trying to master a decent ps2 emulator, by the way i have two ps2 emus, that work but you just gotta get plugins and stuff. Gee brother chill you've been watching too much TV, or is it drugs you do ha ha ---peace---

Only one of us here sounds like an illiterate. and apparently only one of us here can actually spell the word 'illiterate' correctly. rack your primitive brain to deduce the answer.
The fact that you have an almost perfect GBA emulator doesn't mean anything. Only one developer woorked on visual boy advance, whereas the pcsx2 team has upwards of 3 members. and they've been working at this project for years. Stop blaming anyone for your crappy pc cos ps2 emulation demands great processing power and the current version is much more than just 'decent' if you have a powerful pc.

You've never paid a dime for any emulator you've used in the past, so quit whining and support the scene.

dblock:
why can't the guys behind visualboy make a ps2 emu because all the other developers are stupid illiterates that got hold of emulator making softwares GO VISUALBOY peace

WTF?!
YOU are an extremely stupid entity. When the vapour between your ears finally condenses to a primitive brain, you can figure out the difference in power between a ps2 and a Game Boy Advance.

Many other devs bring other high level emulators to the scene, such as N64 emus, ps2 emus and emus on the psp. yet a*holes like you who do nothing but whine mouth trash like this.
say, since you think it's that easy why don't you get hold of some 'emulator making softwares' and make us a ps2 emulator that runs on the Game Boy Color?
bleeping preek!

ladex142:
There have been a recent announcement of the reduction in the price of PS3 for Japan only. what do you guys think, do you think that's the beginning

Nope. that's not the beginning. if somy were serious about the price drop they'd have dropped it for the US and europeanmodels. and thats just for the 20GB model. Besides, at $479 it's just $20 less than promised.

CHUKWUTEM:
Gamers in the house.PS3 with a 20GB will be launched on Nov 11 in Japan.The game will sell for 49980yen($430).

check your facts before you start posting. The version you quoted is the 20Gb model. there's also a 60Gb model with more cool features. your post will lead many to belive that there's just one model out.

Besides, it's d height of craziness to go buy a japanese ps3, considering the fact that u'll only be able to play japanese ps3 games.

CHUKWUTEM:
Iice I no know!Dat will b about N56000.But I think d price would drop.Naija boys would soon start pirating it.

You will wait long for that to happen, my friend. the ps3 aint gonna hit naija for anyhting less than N100000. mark my words

are you on crack? stop these many many posts and put '[em all into on epost.

olabowale:
@Babyosisis: As a person I try very much to bite my tongue. The biggest attack a person can visit upon me is to abuse my family, any one of them with word.

You could hit me, but do not abuse my family. Yet, I love any of the prophet of God more than any member of my family. I love Muhammad (AS). So when I hear or read about any abuse of this nobility, I weep inside. I have to compose myself in order to continue to be civil. Maybe, if i show kindness, God may soften the heart and the speech of that person who is that vile against this beloved man (AS).

I fear that a person may reject faith through my action, so I strive for goodness. Words hurt. It hurts and deep wound is created.

Sharpened cutlasses hurt too. very deep wounds are created.

alibor:
your qualification is a psycological affair, there are first class degree holders barely making a significant living, while primary school drop outs are pushing the nigerian economy - go to Alaba and find out for yourself.

forget this class and qualification talk and forge a future for yourself and generation. if you choose to make a difference in the web services business visit www.signonafrica.net/webmasters.html or u could find an area that trully interests you and leave your foot print there for generations to come!

President Obasanjo is a graduate of Yaba Tech, or is that not what I heared?

Trash your feelings and be FREE!

yes, pushing the Nigerian economy, all right. and we'll remain a 3rd world country for ever.
A first class graduate of electrical engineering in most Nigerian universities will probably not be able to repair a CRT television set, and a dropout in Alaba may be able to. That's all well and good if you want Nigeria to remain a country that repairs other people's innovation.
A first class graduate, however, will, with little further study be able to create and innovate new brands of LCD TVs, make new inroads in consumer electronics. And that's what counts in national development.
This analogy is just to show you how people like you see only the small picture.
Nigeria has stated its intent to have a man in space by 2015. If no white men are to be used, who's gonna make this a reality? Is it the high quality graduates or the primary school dropout?

Keep thiking Nigeria's development revolves around Alaba and mechanic workshops. While countries like India and Israel export high quality technology, we'll keep on being athird world country.

On the subjet of Alaba, pray tell me what the Alaba boys have innovated or invented for Nigeria, apart from efficient ways to sell pirated movies.

when Japan wanted to develop, it sent many bright young japanese guys to foreign universities to obtain information and education. then they returned to help build their country. Let's lose this african mentality of immediate gain ASAP

kimba:
heres my own list that im currently using:

3D Studio Max, u might need to get the cracks , mail me for more info
Google Sketchup / Google Earth
Serif 3D plus 2.0, its free, needs license,
My 3D
Maya - as someone has said
a couple of freewares on the web, that don't do much.

@soar7
I believe you know where Ikeja is in Lagos state.

cracks, huh? LOL!
Seriously sha, wonder where we'd all be if not for cracks, serials and warez. all hail the hackerz!

nilla:
Islamo-fascists: i wonder why some of you guys love this word.
i defintely don't support that.



Do you just sit down and quote any comments, not thinking of the repercussions?

Stronger words exist than Islamo-fascists. We just won't use them.


i got this off someone's post. read it.


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Although not a religious person myself, I am usually in favor of a revitalization of Christianity in Europe. However, I sometimes have my doubts when I see how many, too many, church leaders consistently end up on the wrong side of issues related to Islam and Muslim immigration.

Bat Ye’or claims that dhimmitude in the Middle East has often progressed because Christian leaders have sold out their own people, either for short-term personal gains or in the mistaken belief that they have a “shared religious heritage” with Muslims. It is also frequently Christian leaders and bishops in the West who are calling for open borders for poor, destitute Muslims because “it is the Christian thing to do.”

The Protestant Lutheran Church in the German city of Hannover organized an exhibition to acquaint the Germans with Islam. The exhibition, entitled “The Faces of Islam,” was the work of the female students of the Protestant Studies Institute in Aachen. On Palm Sunday in 2006, a Protestant church in Bochum, Germany celebrated Muhammad’s birthday and invited the local Turkish community to attend the service. A Turkish music band played Sufi music during the service, in which Protestants and Muslims joined together in honor of Muhammad.

In the UK, church leaders wanted to invite the families of the London suicide bombers to a national memorial service in honor of the victims. Two senior Church of England bishops believed that extending the invitation to the bombers’ families would acknowledge their own loss and send a powerful message of reconciliation to the Muslim community. Dr John Sentamu, the Archbishop of York, urged the nation to unite and turn would-be suicide bombers into friends by building “an inclusive circle of love.”

The same Archbishop has also said that British Christians should see Muslims as allies in the struggle against secularism. A number of Christian, and some Jewish, leaders shared this point of view both during the death threats against Salman Rushdie and during the Danish cartoon Jihad.

Meanwhile, in Indonesia, about 10,000 Christians have been killed between 1998 and 2003 and about 1,000 churches have been burnt down by Muslim mobs. The radicals want Indonesia to be the foundation of a Southeast Asian caliphate that will launch Jihad against other nations such as Singapore, Thailand, the Philippines and Australia until they submit to Islam. In the Indonesian province Aceh, where sharia law officially prevails, Muslim mobs razed a church in response to a forged (by a Muslim) advertisement inviting Muslims to a Christian revival service. Witnesses said there were over 100 Muslim men present, many of them carrying swords. They poured gasoline over the building and set fire to it.

Why this aggressive reaction? According to Islamic law, Christians and Jews (not other religious groups) can live in an area dominated by Muslims, but only if they accept their status as second-rate citizens, dhimmis. This implies many restrictions, such as never trying to convert or preach to Muslims, never to have a relationship with a Muslim woman and never to say anything insulting about Islam or Muhammad. If even one single person breaches any of these conditions, the entire dhimmi community will be punished, and Jihad resumes. Notice that while Muslims, following each case of Islamic terrorism, are quick to say that not all Muslims should be punished for the actions of a few, this is precisely what sharia prescribes for non-Muslims.

What’s worse is that in practice, as in this case from Indonesia, attacks on non-Muslims can be triggered by unconfirmed rumors, personal grudges by Muslims or outright lies. In reality, this means that all non-Muslims will live with a constant, internalized fear of saying or doing anything that could insult Muslims, which would immediately set off physical attacks against them and their children. This state of constant fear is called dhimmitude. Many Middle Eastern, Pakistani and Indonesian Christians know that as a matter of survival, they must say one thing in public and another in private. They are held hostage in their own countries.

In Egypt, a film depiction of someone converting to Islam and then becoming disillusioned with his new religion was enough to bring more than 5,000 protestors to the church, get a nun stabbed and three people killed. Muslims interpreted it as a breach of the traditional Islamic law mandating death for anyone who leaves Islam, and of the old dhimmi laws forbidding non-Muslims to proselytize.

Bishop Armia of the Coptic Church in Egypt, which predates the 7th century Arab invasion and preserves the last remainder of the language of the ancient pharaohs, assured that “Copts would never tolerate anyone insulting Islam.” Coptic Pope Shenouda III, knowing fully well that any provocation could mean mayhem and murder for his fellow Copts, has reiterated that “any remarks which offend Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ.”

Several recent incidents have demonstrated that Muslims are now trying to apply these dhimmi rules to the entire Western world. The most important one was the burning of churches and embassies triggered by the Danish cartoons depicting Muhammad. This was, down to the last comma, exactly the way Muslims would treat the persecuted non-Muslims in their own countries. The cartoon Jihad indicated that Muslims now felt strong enough to apply sharia rules to Denmark, and by extension NATO. Hardly anybody in the mainstream Western media made any attempts to explain this to the public.

In another case, angry protests raged across the Muslim world over a Newsweek magazine report that interrogators at the U.S. military prison Guantanamo Bay had put the Koran on toilets, and in at least one case flushing it down. The escalating violence prompted Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to urge Muslims to resist calls for violence. “Disrespect for the Holy Koran is abhorrent to us all,” she said. Newsweek later retracted their original article, which was found to be baseless.

In November 2002, days before the Miss World pageant in Nigeria, a Nigerian newspaper published an article in which the writer suggested that Islam’s prophet, Muhammad, would have approved the pageant and would have chosen a wife amongst the contestants. The article sparked a Jihad riot in which over 200 people were killed and thousands injured. The next day, the newspaper published an apology. The president of Nigeria went on national television and condemned the newspaper. He said, “It could happen anytime irresponsible journalism is committed against Islam.”

As one African observer later noted about the Newsweek story, the reaction of the White House in the United States was largely similar to that a Third World president gave when faced with the same challenge. For Muslims, the world’s only remaining superpower appeared to play the role of dhimmis.

Bishop Artemije, the spiritual leader of Kosovo’s beleaguered Serbs, has warned against Western support for an independent state in the province, where Muslim Albanians greatly outnumber Christian Serbs and have destroyed many churches and monasteries under the auspices of NATO soldiers. The Bishop warns that independence would reward ethnic cleansing of non-Muslims. Since 9-11, he said, “the United States has been engaged in a global struggle against jihad terrorism, which threatens not just America but peaceful people of all faiths and nationalities. That is why we who live in the Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija find it difficult to understand why so many voices of influence in Washington support a course of action that would hand to the terrorists a significant victory in Europe.”

While Muslims responded with deadly outrage to the now-retracted report by Newsweek of alleged Koran desecration, there was little outcry when Islamic gunmen in 2002 holed up in Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity, assumed to be the birthplace of Jesus Christ, used the Bible as toilet paper. About 30 priests, monks and nuns, and more than 150 Palestinian civilians, who hid inside to escape a gun battle between Israelis and Palestinians, remained inside the church with the armed militants for more than five weeks. Some of the Palestinian fighters, who belonged to the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, part of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat’s Fatah organization, were received as heroes when they later returned to Gaza.

During the so-called Oslo peace process from the mid 1990s, while Palestinian authorities received financial support from Western nations, Arafat increased the boundaries of Bethlehem to include nearby Muslim villages, and encouraged Muslims to settle in the city. As a result, the percentage of Christians rapidly declined.

The Islamic gunmen were also responsible for the rape and murder of two Christian teenage sisters. The assailants claimed that the sisters had been murdered because they were “prostitutes” and had been “collaborating” with Israeli security forces. “The gangsters murdered the two sisters so that they would not tell anyone about the rape,” said a family member. “Many Christian families have sent their daughters abroad for fear they would come under attack by Muslim men.” “Some of the murderers were later killed by the Israeli army, but others are now living in Europe after they had sought refuge in the Church of Nativity. It’s absurd that Muslim men who rape and murder Christian girls are given political asylum in Christian countries like Ireland, Spain and Italy.”

The irony is that the same sexual harassment and rape of non-Muslim women, part and parcel of Jihad, is now spreading to cities in Western Europe with many Muslim immigrants.

Professor Weiner, Scholar in Residence at the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, provides an in-depth look into the nearly uninterrupted persecution of Christians throughout the decade since the Oslo peace process began. The Christians have shrunk to less than 1.7 percent of the population in the Palestinian areas. “Tens of thousands have abandoned their holy sites and ancestral properties to live abroad, while those who remain do so as a beleaguered and dwindling minority,” Weiner said. “Their plight is, in part, attributable to the adoption of Muslim religious law (sharia) in the constitution of the Palestinian Authority. Moreover, the Christians have been abandoned by their religious leaders who, instead of protecting them, have chosen to curry favor with the Palestinian leadership.”

More than 500 Muslim men, chanting Allahu akbar, attacked the Christian village of Taiba east of Ramallah. “They poured kerosene on many buildings and set them on fire. Many of the attackers broke into houses and stole furniture, jewelry and electrical appliances,” said one resident. The attack was triggered by the murder of a Muslim woman from the nearby village of Deir Jarir. Her family forced her to drink poison for having had a romance with a Christian man from Taiba. Muslim men can marry Christian women, but Islamic law forbids Muslim women from marrying Christian men. The Christian community was thus collectively punished because it was rumored that one of their members had breached the rules of dhimmitude.

In a meeting attended by Robert Spencer, former Soviet dissident Natan Sharansky noted that Israel had again and again aided Christians – at their own request – against Islamic violence and injustice, most notably when the Church of the Nativity was occupied by Jihadists in 2002. Yet international Christian leaders, he said, have not responded with similar gestures toward Israel. He is right. While Christians are persecuted on a daily basis in Muslim nations and may soon be wiped out in the Holy Land, Christian organizations in the West are too frequently engaged in “dialogue” with Muslims and demonization of Israel. Christians need to realize that they have much more in common with other non-Muslims, not just Jews, but Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and Atheists, than they will ever have with Muslims. Jussi Halla-Aho, running for parliament in Finland as an independent candidate, has come to some of the same conclusions as I have regarding the Leftist-Islamic cooperation in many Western nations: The Left milks the working natives to maintain a predominantly idle immigrant population, who thankfully vote for the Left. The welfare state society thus has to support two parasites, each living in a symbiotic relationship with the other. This will eventually cause the system to collapse. Why would anyone support a policy that leads to certain destruction? Well, because a career politician never sets his sights 20, 50 or 100 years to the future but instead focuses on the next election. The short-term focus of our democratic system can thus, combined with Muslim immigration, turn into a fatal flaw.

But Halla-Aho asks an even more important question: “Why do the voters let all this happen? It is because Westerners like to be ‘good’ people and believe that their fellow men are equally good people. It is because they have humane values.” “It is because the moral and ethical values of Western man have made him helpless in the face of wickedness and immorality.”

Our Western “moral and ethical values” are profoundly influenced by Judeo-Christian thinking. Will our openness to outsiders, our democratic system and our Christian compassion, precisely the values that we cherish the most, render the West incapable of withstanding Jihad? A good Christian has to turn the other cheek and love his enemies. How are we to reconcile this with the reality that Muslims regard this as a sign of weakness? And how can we fight sharia when bishops and church leaders are the first to call for a “compassionate” immigration policy that allows masses of Muslims to settle here? Christians argue that Europe’s problem is a cultural vacuum created by the retreat of church attendance and Christianity as a religion, which has paved the way for Islam to enter. They have a point, as I have shown before. But some Christian groups are opening the West to Islam, too, and the secular state doesn’t have to be insipid and toothless. Far from it, it was secular states that fought and defeated the Fascist regimes during WW2 and risked the destruction of the planet in the Cold War. The non-religious authorities in China are far more ruthless in crushing any Islamic aggression than most Christian countries are. Of course, the downside is that they are far more ruthless in crushing anything deemed to be a potential challenge to their power.

Luckily, not all Christian leaders are appeasers of Islam. One of the intelligent ones comes from Australia, a country that has been fairly resistant to Political Correctness. They have taken serious steps towards actually enforcing their own borders, despite the predictable outcries from various NGOs and anti-racists, and Prime Minister John Howard has repeatedly proven to be one of the most sensible leaders in the Western world. George Cardinal Pell, Archbishop of Sydney, tells of how September 11 was a wake-up call for him personally:

“I recognised that I had to know more about Islam.” “In my own reading of the Koran, I began to note down invocations to violence. There are so many of them, however, that I abandoned this exercise after 50 or 60 or 70 pages.” “The predominant grammatical form in which jihad is used in the Koran carries the sense of fighting or waging war.” “Considered strictly on its own terms, Islam is not a tolerant religion and its capacity for fear-reaching renovation is severely limited.” “I’d also say that Islam is a much more war-like culture than Christianity.” “I’ve had it asserted to me is that in the relationship between the Islamic and non-Islamic world, the normal thing is a situation of tension if not war, or outright hostility.”

Pope Benedict XVI, nicknamed “God’s rottweiler” as a cardinal, seems to embody elements of both the sensible and the silly Christian ways of dealing with the Islamic threat. Although Benedict has stressed the need for “reciprocity” in Christian-Muslim relations and urged Islamic countries to ensure religious rights for Christian migrants, he has also said that Christians should continue welcoming Muslim immigrants with open arms.

It caused an uproar in the Islamic world when Benedict XVI, as a part of a longer dissertation, quoted a 14th century Byzantine emperor’s hostile view of Islam’s founder: “Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.” Benedict later said he was “deeply sorry” for the reaction to his comments on Islam and that the quote he used from the medieval text about holy wars did not reflect his personal thoughts. Although this technically constitutes a non-apology apology and was deemed “unsatisfactory” by Muslims, many anti-Jihadists would have preferred the Pope to use the opportunity to make a clearer stand against Islamic aggression.

Still, his comments raised public debate about the issue, and certainly marked progress compared to his predecessor Pope John Paul II, who kissed the Koran in public in an effort to reach our to Muslims.

I have described examples of incredible stupidity and appeasement from Christians in the West, but also of courage and clarity of mind in standing up to Islamic aggression and defending Western civilization and the world from sharia. The ideological civil war within the West is not just between secularists and religious people; it runs straight through the Church itself.

Christians need to understand that there can be no peace or understanding with the Islamic world. They want to subdue us, pure and simple. Church leaders of all denominations, Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, must stop stabbing Israel in the back and campaigning for a de facto open borders policy while Muslims are threatening to swamp our lands. Yes, Christianity teaches compassion, but it also teaches identifying evil and standing up to it. At the end of the day, the Church must decide whether, in the defense of civilization, it wants to be a part of the problem or a part of the solution.
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nilla:
@ topic

Did he think the comments would make Muslims happy? They have every right to be annoyed.

he was quoting the comments of a long dead emperor. At times, we forget that he was a Professor before he became the Pope.
We have no problem with muslims getting angry. What we have stress with is when they take the anger out on other people, killing, maiming, slaughtering. Is that what you support here?

in the 80s, news came out that the US navy was going to name a submarine 'Corpus Christi' which means 'Body of Christ'. The Christian community came out in peaceful protests, wrote to their representatives and got the US navy to rescind the decision. No christian went about burning US Navy facilities and killing Navy men. They emphatically rejected naming a weapon of war after the Christ. That is the hall mark of a religion of peace, not all the senseless killing.

The remarks were misconstrued to be Offensive. but a public apology has been made. that, couppled with the fact that the Pope has stated his desire to continue with Pope John Paul's work of reaching out to muslims should indicate to every bloodthirsty mullah that the remark were not his opinion and were not meant to cause problems.
Unwillingness to accept an apology however, and eagerness to cause bodily harm to christians the world over is no longer the fault or responsibility of the Pope. it now lies with the Islamo-fascists who call for rage, and every other muslim who does nothing about the corruption of his/her faith. Finito!

belloti:
Havila and David, we both should know by now i am a moderate muslim. But you all know that discussions here have always being painted with sentiments and emotions. I hate violence with a passion. i love peace but i don't like being taken for granted just because someone felt that he most imposed his opinion down my throat.

We can never see things from the same perspective because we are not speaking from the same premise. Our religions has strong fundamental differences which we all strongly believed in. What i always try to do is to bend myself backward in trying to get you to atleast understand the bit of islam you guys sometimes miss. some muslims in nairaland have already lost patience with some of you guys but i bowed to stay and sort things out for as long as it get.

What i rightly said earlier was the Pope was wrong but so was i too by my choice of words.  

You, a peace loving, moderate muslim? Don't make me laugh.
Your kind are always trying to shift the blame from their killings to others. Blaming all the bloodletting you do in the name of your 'religion of peace' on the US foreign policy and the West is the most stupid thing in the world.
The Pope quoted someone else, his words were taken out of context and he apologized. people are reporting it as the first papal apology froma serving pope for something he did in 2000 years, and yet your razed mullahs are urging bloodshed. Please, show me anywhere you have come out condemning such threats.
I always say, silence is complicity. And you HAVE been silent. ergo, you have no right to call yourself a moderate anything.

Fimmy:
PLS HOW CAN I GET ONE
I NEED A LAPTOP BADLY
WAT ARE THE CONDITIONS? AND THE PRICE
my mail id is fimmycares@yahoo.com

go to otigba and buy one, ya lazy bum!
Since, of course, you can't be a*rsed to download the MS Word docs attached to the topic 

Son, if encarta 2006 hangs your pc, u need to buy you a new one. Try one of the new dual core processor systems, preferrably one with a 3d graphics card.
I think maya and 3ds max are seriously system intensive, with high requirements,

Most of the notebooks are overpriced!

twinstaiye:
It is easy for you to say because Bush is the most powerful man in the world. He has all the arrogant in him to do anything he likes, and because he is a christian and an Israel supporter, he will always be in the position to protect christianity religion. Christianity is safe as long as the superpowers are in control. But is Islam safe? No, never! Iran that is planning to enrich Uranium is about to be demolished again by the superpowers, tell me, who else is to safeguard Islam which is constantly under oppression?
The Northern Nigerian Muslims uprising is always political in nature, and we all cannot denied that.
If the superpowers had not invaded Iraq under those flimsy excuses, there would not have been uprising of shites and shia.
The over 3000 citizens of America that died on seppt 11 is unfortunate, but I must say, the US government brought it upon themselves, they are to blame, because the hijackers who are also committing suicide must have been pushed to the wall to have decided to end their own life too. Or are we just to conclude that, simply because they are muslims and are promised matyrdom, that is why they did it, but because they can't condone the oppresion any more. The sept 11 attack is a retaliation on the unending US foreign policy aggression.
I hasten to add however that, I am not in support of violence, but I like to look at root cause of things.

No one is fooled by apologists such as yourself. It's revolting how your lament ove the death of 3000 americans on sept 11 comes across as an afterthought, a mere milestone in your unending criticism of the West.
Did the US invasion of Iraq bring about the deeply rooted discontent between the shiites and the sunnis? if so, why did saddam see fit to suppress the Shiite majority under his watch, and by force for that matter?
Say what you will about the US, but they have no maxim or creed advocating the slaughter of innocent children and women.
The New York times urged the pope to apologize, to show the 'Healing power of words'. He did so, promptly, expressing dismay and sorrow for the havoc his comments caused. How naive the NY times was! In response to this apology, Iran's president urged moire demonstrations, A somali cleric ordered supporters to kill the pope, al qaeda declared war on Christianity and some of you are not even fazed!. Despite the fact that this was the first papal apology in 2000 years for a recent 'offense' the ignorant hordes keep up the mayhem and threats.

Perhaps the Pope's comments were innapropriate. But is it any reason to keep condemning him and forget the fact that he has apologized? why do people like olabowala attack the pope, forgetting to criticize the calls for violence gaianst him?

The Daily Express of England summed this up admirably. While people were printing papal apoklogies in their papers, the paper simply said "The Western policy of self-abasement before blackmail must stop".

We abase ourselves for people who we are not supposed to. When the danish cartoons were published, protesters moved about in britain with banners screaming "death to enemies of islam" and "decapitate all infidels". Th epolice did nothing, despite that being a clear attempt to incite violence. When two young men, in a counter protest carried placards with the cartoons on them, th e police arrested them.
Double standards, indeed.

You may not be catholic, but the Pope stands and shall always stands as an icon of christianity. If anything happens to him, and you're a christian, hang your heads in shame.

How do you defeat a bully? stand up to him! Keep issuing apologies until you are, in the words of al-qaeda "forced to convert to islam, or head tax shall be imposed on you. those who do not convert will be killed by the sword"

[quote author=Brown-Eyes link=topic=17880.msg614709#msg614709 date=1158660608]Can anyone of you read Arabic? Did anyone of you pick up the Quran and read Muhammad's teachings? Many people contributed to the Quran just like many people contributed to the bible so don't get quotes left right and centre to justify the reason you dislike Islam.

As i keep on saying all religions started off peacefully at one stage before mankind put his big toe in it. As you guys keep stressing how much you love facts, i am surprised with all this copy and paste material from other sites that think the same way as you. Go to the source, the Quran, and begin your research from there.

Until then all your posts on 70 virgins in the sky when you die etc is poppycock.

You are all getting caught up with this religion mania. This is what is expected of you by those who make a living out of wars. Obviously you won't support war for oil and personal gain but if it is against Islamic terrorists who are forever planning to bomb the world, then support will be overflowing.

We are supposed to be discussing the politics i.e the generals behind the war and their tactics.[/quote]C'mon, can't you do better'n this lame line of argument? How come you believe what's in the bible if you can't read aramaic or hebrew? The Quran has been translated into english by muslim scholars of repute, so don't even get started there.
You show your lack of knowledge of all things islam by saying many people contributed to the Book, so some things in it should be disregarded. Muslims the world over revere the book as the word of God, through his chosen prophets. A muslim on this same forum (one mr. Olabowale) said this to me.

Of course anyone'd be daft or evil not to support a war against Islamic terrorists who are 'forever plotting to blow up the world' in your own words. There should be no quarter given to anyone who deliberatly targets women and children all in the name of holy war.

Don't be naive. You cry that people here are biased and unjust. Ok, if we're supposed to be discussing the generals and the politics behind these wars, why have you not equally weighed in against the 'generals and politics' from the middle east?
Speaking of politics, i wonder how you feel when you rile against the US's custom of selling weapons and providing backing to Israel (a facility it extends to several other countries like Taiwan) and then say nothing when the President of Iran calls for violent protests against the Pope, calls for the massacre of 10 million jews.


Perhaps the Iraqi war was fought for Oil, or for vengeance (post 9/11) or for juicy defense contracts. We'll never be sure. What's sure is that the war declared over with far far less than expected Iraqi civillian and millitary casualties. The resulting losses of life can be placed firmly in the hands of the 'Islamo-fascist' terrorist.
Perhaps the US invasion is the indirect cause of the chaos in Iraq. But i dont see GIs kidnapping and torturing Iraqis as a matter of policy. Generals in Iran and in the mountains of Pakistan are behind the recent chaos. So when you cast blame on the US, ask yourself if thet're the cause of the simmering discontent between the shiites and the sunnis in Iraq.

Ask yourself if you're in a position to call other people biased.

OFF TOPIC: A somali cleric has called for muslims the world over to kill the pope. I hear no voices from the OIC, from the mullahs and imams condemning this call, none at all. Silence is complicity in my book. I shall hold all muslims responsible if something happens to my pope.
Still doesn't mean i'll go around shooting muslims everywhere i see them. That, i believe, seperates me from them.

Bhola:
I love my culture and I aint changing it. Some things I will do away with, some things I will never change.

When I first got here and got my first job. I remember always switching to my right hand to give a customer something and then I did not stop there sef, I will bend my knee, like the proper, good Yoruba girl.

Now, I don't do that anymore. But guess what, I can never, ever give my parents or my relatives or people I know personally, some thing with my left hand. I still bend my knees when I serve people, especially male, food or hand them something. That part of my culture I love and I am keeping.

If and when I have kids, the female will do likewise.

Keep changing everything about your culture and soon enough, there will be nothing left to hold on to.

N.B: I like men that are men, not wimps like we have out there now.

You truly are pathetic. Tell me, will you circumcise your female children too? May your husband live up to your hopes and beat you every night, as you no doubt deserve.

Afam:
If you had noticed well, you would have realised that I delibrately ignored your post after you found it difficult to accept your mistake when you credited someone else's post to me and went ahead to state nonsense, even after Chxta pointed out that I only reproduced someone's post.

Now, I certainly do not have time for people like you because what makes a man is his ability to accept responsibilities of his actions whether right or wrong.

As for Afam disappointing you, I am not here to impress anyone so it means nothing to me.

Why is my position important to you? I honestly disregard most of your views because they are full of bias and hatred masked with somewhat careless statements, so in essence what you state here do not mean anything to me, maybe until you are bold enough to accept your mistakes.

You never cease to amuse me  .
I'm here on this forum to share and interact with people, sample others' opinions and learn new things if possible.  as such i take pains to read each and every person's post carefully, sifting it for sense.  I sure as hell ain't here to listen to one person, and i do not hang on to your every word, so what care have i that you haven't replied to any of my posts? Knowing your penchant for dodging thought provoking questions about your bias and naivete, i'm never surprised when you fail to reply many posts, only to pop up later with somewhat personal attacks. Your strategy seems to be to needle others into making careless statements which you gleefully quote in later posts for such attacks. Won't work on this guy, i'm afraid.
From what any ape can deduce about you, it's patently ovbious you aren't here to learn from anyone, instead you use words denouncing people who do not share your views as ignorant, biased people.

As for my 'disappointment' in you, it's inbuilt in any rational human to evince that emotion at the sight of an intelligent-seeming fellow closing his mind to other opinions.
Like they say, there is none so blind as they who will not see!

I won't even comment on this presumptious statement about my personality:
"Now, I certainly do not have time for people like you because what makes a man is his ability to accept responsibilities of his actions whether right or wrong"
Unlike Chxta who  knows me very well (we grew up together, you see  ) you know nothing about me.

You're veering from just being supercillous to mildly offensive, little man 

@Afam
When you use comments like "peace in the midle east is acheivable if both parties play fair" isn't it the same middle east where Syria and Iran refuse to agree to Israel's right to exist?
can there be any dialogue or negotiation when several parties are not willing ot reach a middle ground? Some of these guys allege peace will only be a reality if israel gives up the land and moves out of the middle east. Do you really see that as a realistic objective?
When people like you spout the oft abused "peace and dialogue" line without any reasonable solution, it strikes me as pathetically naive. if every time israel was menaced and attacked , they begged for peace and dialogue, what kind of signal will they be sending out?
Every nation that has been attacked by terrorists/suicide bombers (England, Spain, US, India) have all had to take a hard line, condemning the attacks and promising punishment for the culprits. When spain and india vowed to bring the people responsible for the atttacks in their countries to book, did people like u utter a word? It's only in the case of Israel and the US your guys start with the condemnation.

Lastly, i must say you dissapoint me. It's rare now to see a comment where you do not come across as supercillous. Just because someone has a different view from yours doesn't mean he has no understanding of events.
That's just for the record!

Hi
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While it should be noted that the $250 price tag includes a free game bundled in, i must confess i'd have hoped for a lower price, !
What say you? Still picking one up?

@Davidylan
Tell me honestly, were u surprised when france, the perennial cowards donated only 200 millitary engineers to the peacekeeping force at first? Only when the derision from the international community became too much that they now put their money where their mouths were.
That's the problem with these 'peacemakers'. It's so easy to strut for the cameras, condemning others and using the much aboused 'dialogue' card. tell me, how much has france and germany done in the ensuing diplomatic efforts to secure the release of the captured israeli soldiers? Zilch!

Afam:
@Davidylan,

I am replying this post with the hope that you don't understand my post genuinely.

As regards Al jazeera, I don't watch that channel so wouldn't know what their contribution was torwards criminal silence. It is also not for you to demand for media houses to react in certain ways based on what is happening.

Just a crazy question anyway - does it make sense that Syria was an unwanted occupier for 29 years and yet remains a strong supporter of Lebanon even if through Hezbollah?

On the countries that condemned the 911 attack I am sure that the FG sympathized with the US and condemned the attack.

If however, you conclude that some people in Nigeria celebrated the attack to mean that Nigeria supported it then I am sorry to state this, joining issues with you is a huge waste of time because I am aware of a lot of people that condemned the attack, at least I did and I am a Nigerian, that invalidates whatever wrong conclusion you may have reached on Nigeria supporting the 911 attacks.

You urge everyone to take your moral high ground of condemnign the killing of innocents, yet you say stuff like "It is also not for you to demand for media houses to react in certain ways based on what is happening.". Does that mean that it isn't fair to demand that an influential news agency like AL-jazeera stand up and condemn (in an unbiased manner) any atrocities going on in the arab world?

Were't you aware that widespread demonstrations against syrian occupation (following syrian complicity in the murder of ex-premier rafik hariri) resulted in the end of the Syrian occupation of lebanon?
Even if syria supports Hezbollah with weapons, does that mean they are protecting Lebanon? Who brought down the crisis on lebanon, Israel or Hezbollah?
For all 40-odd pages of this thread, you and your cohorts have stated that you're against oppresion and injustice. So why restrict yourself to the alleged acts of 'oppresion and injustice' carried out by the US and Israel? I ask this question because it seems you give cursory attention to the complicity of the Hezbolllah/Hamas/Al-Qaeda people and vent most of your ire at the West.

@Brown-eyes
Accusing the West for creating starvation and disease doesn't say much for you, i'm afraid.

As for those blaming US foreign policy for all the world's ills, a recent example of  tyhe stupidity and illogicality of this claim is this: The UN resolved to send troops to Darfur in Sudan to halt the genocide there, pending the approval of the sudanese govt.
The sudanese govt refused this generous offer, saying that warring parties should be brought to the negotiation table. These same parties that had not met in recent months! While this process was ongoing, the deaths would be freely allowed to continue. An Incredulous CNN reporter interviewed the Sudanese Ambassador to the Un, who started spouting crap. in short, he ended up blaming the furore generated by their refusal to approve the troops on the upcoming American Presidential elections. That was until the CNN reporter reminded him that this same resolution has been on the menu in the UN for months, way before any presidential stuff. I'm sure the contempt on her face was mirrored on mine.
But i stray from the point. I only meant to show you the depth at which many idiots would go to blame everything on the US. because. believe it or not, anytime you blame the US, you'll always get someone who falls for that.

My colleague assured me the other day that the US killed abiola and abacha. I merely asked him if he was willing to bet his life on it. Sadly, he lacked the conviction to do so. I've encountered over 100 people who believe such a thing but none of them was there, none has ever read or seen an expose on the matter. So why judge based on conjecture?

In the next 20 yrs, when China's Oil demand perhaps meets or outstrips that of the US, we'll start accusing the Chinese of wanting to invade the Niger Delta  

rotbog:
Considering the indication that Agba Olusegun Obasanjo has interests in transcorp, does this suggest that EFCC is independent?

Anybody's Ox can Be Gored?

Can Atiku's Claims of being Victimized Still Hold Water?


Is Ribadu the Man we've been waiting for?

Is he interested in running for president?

Would you vote 4 him?

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All a smokescreen, my friend. all a smokescreen.

I, however, am not THAT gullible.

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take this into account:

[quote author=Brown-Eyes link=topic=17880.msg602832#msg602832 date=1158001719]One thing i need to know, are the Hizbollah perceived as a terrorist organisation because innocent lives were taken during the skirmish with Israel, they oppose Israel's interests or it is because of their religion?[/quote]Why are you so keen to find a link between accusations of terrorism and islam? It seems like it'd make your day if you could get a nugget of information that shouts "Hezbollah is terrorist cos it's a muslim body".
No such luck, i'm afraid. here's what i culled from wikipedia

Israel's occupation of the Shebaa Farms, along with the presence of Lebanese prisoners in Israeli jails, is often used as a pretext and stated as justification for the organization's continued hostilities against Israel even after Israel's verified withdrawal from Lebanon in 2000. Hezbollah's spokesperson Hassan Ezzedin, however, had this to said that

"the Hezbollah campaign to rid Shebaa of Israeli troops is a pretext for something larger. 'If they go from Shebaa, we will not stop fighting them," he told [the New Yorker]. 'Our goal is to liberate the 1948 borders of Palestine, , The Jews who survive this war of liberation can go back to Germany or wherever they came from.' He added, however, that the Jews who lived in Palestine before 1948 will be 'allowed to live as a minority and they will be cared for by the Muslim majority.'

In recent interviews, Nasrallah has answered questions concerning the establishment of a Palestinian state established alongside an Israeli state stating "that he would not sabotage what is finally a 'Palestinian matter.' But until such a settlement is reached, he will, he said, continue to encourage Palestinian suicide bombers."

Funny enough, Only the US, Israel and Four other countries consider Hezbollah a terrorist movement, though after their recent antics im sure the EU will 'upgrade' their status. Can you blame the US, after Hezbollah blew up a marine base, killing over 200 marines.

But in a way, this issue's confusing. here's something else the article had to say:

Lebanon’s Energy Minister, one of the two Hezbollah members in government, responded "Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah are two different groups. Al-Qaeda believes in killing innocents. Hezbollah is involved in a legitimate resistance [against Israel].

And In the Arab world Hezbollah's seen as being a legitimate guerilla movement.
So we're back to the same old confusion between freedom fighters and terrorists.

But here's a sure guide: one of the UN definition of terrorist states that a terrorist movemnt is one that strives for political change through the deliberate target of civillians and non-combatants.
So to be a terrorist you must be seeking a clearly defined goal, and your manifesto must include the deliberate targeting of civillians and non-combatants in order to achieve said goals.

raining katyushas into civillian areas is not a good way to get yourself off the terrorist list, lemme tell ya.

that's why it's wrong to accuse the US and Israel of terrorims, when it's not in their manifesto. In fact, a millitary prosecutor in the US recommended the death penalty for 4 Us soldiers for killing a family in Iraq.
Funny how all the busy URL posters didnt see that one


Wonder when people would realize that 1 million african kids die of malaria every year, far more than the death tools in the entire middle east. Guess starving, sickly kids aint as sensational as bearded, well fed men blowing themselves up.
if heckling, 'peacemaking' countries could hand out as much foreign aid and free medicine as the 'warmongering' US, maybe that number could be significantly reduced,

archbishop:
Hello Nairalanders,
this is not the issue, the issue is that U.B.A. will
not consider a Third class material for employment.
thank you and stay blessed.

Rightly so! Would you consider that, if it were u?

If u got a 3rd class, go overseas and do a masters degree. That can cover up for your earlier 'sins'