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MaxInDHouse:
Miracles are unexplainable deeds involving supernatural forces.

Prophecy connotes predictions through divine providence.

Speaking in tongues means strange language that's not been spoken before by the speaker.

So the Knowledge that was listed with all these unnatural occurrences is not what comes through learning process but direct information through divine means!

Take for instance Moses was buried by God's angels in the absence of no witnesses {Deuteronomy 34:5-6} the scriptures confirmed that [b]nobody knew Moses's grave due to how and who buried him but how did Jude who lived over 1,500 years later KNEW that Satan and Michael had issues over Moses's corpse? Jude 9

Well that's the type of KNOWLEDGE that will cease after the completion of God's word (Bible)[/b]

May you have PEACE!

Are you saying this kind of knowledge has ceased?It's revelational knowledge.Are you saying Christians today don't have that knowledge?

haddeylium:
You didn't get it.
People that have the gift of 'speaking in tongue ' do not need to learn the language before they can communicate the Gospel with it.
Likewise, the people that have gift of knowledge do not need to seek for Bible truths and God's will before they know it. They can do them miraculously
All of them including the gift of prophesy have ceases (1 Cor 13:. Today, sincere people can gain this knowledge by studying and researching God's word deeply with so many aids available today. Dictionary, corcondance, manuscript, translations and forth

So this gift of speaking in tongues has ceased?

haddeylium:
Good question!
Then, you don't need to[b]seek[/b] a knowledge about something. it's miraculous.
Now, that Bible is in completion and the has Gift ceased. You have to seek it in God's word. Bible commentaries, corcondance can contribute as knowledge aid.

Thank you

Whether it be written or spoken, knowledge is gained by seeking.To know the scriptures is to seek knowledge.
If prophesy,speaking in tongues and knowledge has ceased according to you,then what knowledge do you have in the Scriptures?

DappaD:
I think you’re misunderstanding the OP. 1Corinthians 13:8 said that “knowledge will cease”, which knowledge is that? In verse 9, Paul says, “Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophecy reveals only part of the whole picture!
”—New Living Translation.
The knowledge which the apostles had in the first century was actually incomplete so they did not have all the facts about the fulfillment of God’s will and purposes. So when the complete knowledge came, then the one which they had will cease in that it became obsolete.

For example, all the first century Christians were anointed and sealed with God’s spirit(2Corinthians 1:22) to become kings, priests and judges with the Christ in heaven. 2Timothy 2:12
But the new information presented in Revelation 7&14 pointed out that the total number of those who would be sealed by holy spirit would be 144,000! That was something Paul did not know in his days so the knowledge that all Christians would be sealed by God’s holy spirit which existed in Paul’s days became obsolete as the book of Revelation rounded up all the prophecies about the future. Revelation 22:18-19

Revelations 7:4 says,'And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. ' Did you see 'of the tribes of the children of Israel' in that scripture?The 144,000 is from Israel and not the whole believers.
Verse 9 says,After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
The Holy Spirit is not sealing just 144,000 as erroneously held by JW.

haddeylium:
Thought you would grasp it with the summary .

'Speaking in tongue'?
The phrase are old English word. In modern English, the accurate translation is 'Speaking in Different languages'
Early Christians that have this miraculous gift can speak others people languages without having learned it. (Acts 10:46,) The speaker was easily understood by anyone who knew that language. (Acts 2:​4-
It was a necessity then because the small christain group are only conversant with Hebrew and Greek' languages. Now, they have to speak to people from Asia , Africa and other continent. It's not some mumbo jumbo as seen today.
Today, under God's guidance holyspirit the Bible is available today in almost all languages and even sign languages.
You can visit Jw.org to read a Bible in your tongue

speech of knowledge?
It was a miraculous knowledge that made up for the lack of copies of the Scriptures. The number of inspired scrolls is limited them . This miraculous gift bring in remembrance God's words in the scroll and also alerted of the congregation situation(Acts 5:1-11)

Today, God has provided his entire Word, which today can be possessed in printed form or electronic copies by the most humble person.. (2 Tim. 3:16, 17) Furthermore, knowledge is available to all through Bible study helps such as commentaries, concordances and Bible dictionaries, as well as help from qualified teacher

Thank you

The knowledge that you say is available has ceased just as prophesy has ceased according to your interpretation of 1 Corinthians 3:18.Why are you asking me to seek knowledge from JW.org when you say it has ceased?

haddeylium:
Remember I said I'm only interested in having conversations with people that have deep interest in the Bible and not on general opinion.

According to God's word, after completion of the writing of the inspired word of God, the gifts of the prophecy ended along with the other miraculous gifts of the spirit.

Amazing how you dodged the questions I raised from the very scripture you quoted.

haddeylium:
Thank you for that question
I'll only address the second that is related to the topic

The apostle Paul spoke of these miraculous gifts, incuding the 'Gift of prophesy' and said that they would pass away in time. (1 Cor. 13:
Prophecy, stopped, because it served its purpose, that Jehovah God had for it.
The, purpose, that Jehovah God, used prophecy for, was to inspire the Bible to be written, by men that he choose.

Bible being complete as a guide to the congregation today, nothing needs to be added. (2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Rev. 22:18, 19) .

Love never fails. But if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away with; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away with.(1 Cor 3:18)

What will never fail is LOVE!
And Jesus said that will be the identifying mark of his disciples and not 'gift of prophesy' (John 13:35)

@bolded,if prophesy has ceased,has speaking in tongues ceased?Has knowledge ceased? according to the 1 Corinthians 3:18 you quoted.

May God wipe away blindness.

So na the work wey dem give am be dat? Correctional officer wey dey subtract.

Is Jesus an angel,Op?
How do you have the Spirit of God and yet cannot prophesy?

How will she be older than him after giving birth?
If he married a girl of 24/25yrs,what happens when this same girl becomes 30yrs old?

You or your 38yr old friend needs a change of mentality.

Which one is overeating?

BigBashiru:
that's speculation..... just because God made a man and a woman doesn't mean a man can't take multiple wives!

Read my update so you can have a better understanding.

Mark 10:6, KJV: "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female."
To understand the mind of God,you need to look at the beginning
When God created man,he made a woman for him and not many women.

1 Corinthians 7:2-5 as quoted by Jashub further shows that,'each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband'.

Sin came when Adam and Eve fell and sin created avenues for things that though were permitted by God were not His perfect plan.That is why many in the old Testament married many wives but God still related with them.
However,the coming of Jesus was to renew and perfect that which was lost in Eden.1 Corinthians 13:10 AMPC says,'but when the complete and perfect (total) comes, the incomplete and imperfect will vanish away (become antiquated, void, and superseded).
In Christ,God's original plan of monogamy is established.

Very stupid comments.

Congrats to them.Waiting is never easy.

Sad.I hope the husband's friends will be there for the family he left behind.

He likes fair girls.Well he's a muslim,he has space for four women.

Do your research well and see how the biz can actually yield good returns.
If you can raise the money from family as you said,start part time and see how it turns out.
If the returns are good and can expand,quit the teaching job.
She will be hurt but at the end,your progress is what teally matters.

Na wa o.Them dey spoil home and away.

Ambeed:
I'm in my mid thirties, not ugly, a health worker. From the southern part of Nigeria.

Will prefer men not boys from South south or south east. Lives in Lagos.

AS genotype, not much of a talker but cool.

If you are within 38 to 45 dm me, jokers and boys and red pillers stay away.

If there are white men on nairaland you can do me as well.

I need a friend that can become a confidant and husband tomorrow.

You don't want men from South West?And you are even talking about Lagos?Cast your net far o!

Anyway, don't be discouraged.You can meet men from anywhere.Just shine your eye.No answer any man wey say come my house o.

frozen70:
Leave am, na him go tire

He has to work on himself else his best option would be a baby mama who doesn't live with him.
This kind of issue stems from some lapses in developmental years.

This one too follow answer pastor?All these ritualists calling themselves pastors.

Who come put fire there?

You're so drawn inwards, probably because of your introverted nature.

lovelybugs:
As nice as this sounds, a lot of men can't be trusted with their own kids. They'll end up dumping them at relatives homes as unpaid house boys and girls, to be molested by whoever pleases. A mother who loves her children would never leave them to go through that. That's why most women are at a disadvantage. Na who care pass dey loose for marriage matter.

I know this is the main reason.It is what it is sha.
I've seen a few cases of women who took the hard decision of leaving the kid/s with the father.

mariahAngel:
What I have come to understand and made peace with is the not all women will be alphas, just like not all males are alphas.

Omg! A guy just created a thread on romance section asking if there's anything wrong in calling his married ex to come cook for him! Omg!
The lady not only agreed, she also went with him to the market to buy the ingredients!

I swear, I'm so pissed right now!

Hmmmm,the husband was obviously a second option.

Rozcol:
What happened to leaving the children with him to care for. Nigerian women and their oversabi,if I should leave a husband (God forbids) I will so drop all the kids with him to look after,why should I be the one to carry the kids along,lai lai that one can't work for me ooo. I have strong and valid reasons for doing so.

I have thought about this many times.Why should the burden of caring for the kids be on the woman in cases like this?
Maternal instincts maybe but if the man had to be left with the child/children sometimes,I guess they won't think of sending mother and kids away everytime.

apatheticme:
Did you marry a useless woman?

No I didn't.Those words up there are your words ........'men are a necessary evil'.

apatheticme:
You really can't blame these misguided males too much, our own sisters too are fvckng up!!! Dem nor dey try at all!

Many of them exhibit Stockholm syndrome, many believe their only existence wraps around a man. Without a man, they believe they can't exist!

They've so much rendered themselves helpless that they can't carry out simple tasks outside of a man's input. So what do you expect?? Of course the male folks would keep treating them like trash!

Many women can't fix a flat tire without calling hubby, many can't take their car for servicing, hubby must be there. Women need to step up for crying out loud! I take my car for servicing myself, buy required oil, filter etc without waiting for hubby! I do a lot of stuff most women view as reserved for males myself! The way some women behave in marriage/relationship is simply nauseating abeg.

When your man/hubby knows that you are capable of multi-tasking, you've got your job, with good pay, you're not lazy, and he knows how much you bring to the table financially, you can handle rent, nepa bills, school fees etc he'll be the one to sit up! He would be more scared of you and won't even dare to say he wants to lock you out.

I can only imagine myself being asked to spend the night out in an uncompleted building alone not to talk of with an infant and I will still be begging people to help me beg the man for me to come back to the house the next day Like wtf!! I dey mad?? That's the last day I'll have anything to do with such a man! When it's not as if I'm jobless, lazy or disabled! She definitely has Inferiority complex, that's why she keeps sucking up to being treated like trash! Rubbish!

Men are a necessary evil, but they are also dispensable!

Did you marry a necessary evil?

Pierocash:
they said widow,you say you thought her father was arrested. Are you confused or what?

What does widow mean?

Widowed mother?I thought they said her father was arrested.